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jaleho - got off the foggy forrest.

You wrote:

by Jaleho on Tue Mar 24, 2009 05:21 AM PDT

Much to your chagrin, the IRI and the spirit of revolution does not need the Ayatollahs, as you provided the proof.

IRI is not a fake illegitimate "country" like Israel which would be dead the minute US stops its charity from a piss-ant 6 million beggar entity.

Then abarmard replied with this:

by Abarmard on Tue Mar 24, 2009 09:32 AM PDT

Remind yourself that there are enough tools and information available
for those who really seek the knowledge, and leave it at that. Some
people choose to remain in a level.

Happy Tuesday :)

Khosh-kel khanom, THIS IS WHAT IT TRASLATES INTO:

GDP per CAPITA (2007 est).

ARAB & ISLAMIC STATES:

1. Bangladesh---$1,400

2. Egypt:---------$5,400

3. Jordan:--------$4,700

4. Mauritania......$1,800

5. Nigeria:-------$2,200

6. Pakistan:------$2,600

7. Somalia:--------$600

8. Syria:---------$4,300

9. Sudan:--- ----$2,500

10. Yemen--------$2,400

TOTAL:-------$27,900

ISRAEL------$28,800

Iran:----------$12,300

ژاله خانوم.............

دُر افشانی فرمودین که.............

«باشه. ولی‌ این fish احمق خیلی‌ ور زیادی میزنه. وقتی‌ این همه حماقت و بیسوادی با وقاحت و از خود ممنونی همره باشه، معجون بدی ازش در میاد. وقتی‌ زیادی در مورد ایران و ایرانی‌‌ها با دماغ سر بالا حرف میزنه، یک تو دهنی براش بد نیست تا کمکی آدم بشه!»

مثل اینکه این عادت اسلامی «تو دهنی زدن» رو از اون گور بگور شده ارث بردین سرکار خانوم!

آدم بهتره حد خودشو بشناسه و قبل از اینکه چادرشو گره بزنه پس کمرش و چشمشو ببنده و چاه فاضلاب تخلیه کنه یه خورده فکر کنه!

بهتره فکر نکنی که با چارتا شعر نوشتن توی بلاگ مشاعره مردم فراموش میکنن که بعضی ها از چه قماشی هستند!

دوست داری یه نفر با لحن خودت باهات صحبت کنه؟

Fishie

I just saw this article in Haaretz, it is a good reading.

//www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1073488.html

I also recommend the comments there as well.

-YT

cap'n

as always you remain a true gentleman.  there ARE many here and i've greatly enjoyed exchanging ideas and humor with you, king kaveh, bijan, samsam and many many others... even the humorous insults have been a pleasure...:-)  my azizam is frustrated, hating to see the childish insults to his wife but i tell him, don't jeopordize your own enjoyment of iranian.com.  he learned HIS lesson in iran about speaking out. 

the ultimate path to a free and democratic iran will be paved with much heartache, suffering and sacrifice.  i know you and your many honorable hamvatans will understand that i speak from my heart when i say that i wish you every success in your fight against an oppressive regime.  and i truly hope that that change WILL come from within.  it benefits NO ONE when a foreign power becomes involved in a domestic struggle.  i just hope and pray that it stays a domestic revolution and not an international one. 

oh... and sabzi polo mahi and koko were delish!  we don't have it nearly often enough.  our half seen looks lovely.  we thought we lost a fishie but when husband picked him up, he started squirming...  scared the you-know-what out of him....LOL

Fishie

You and you know who are my favorite Mr and Mrs Fish[affectionately]. If I ever have come across as insulting to you or anyone I do apologize, for it has never been intentional. I do appreciate your frustrations with some of the ladies and gentlemen here, for I myself am at times subject of their attacks and insults.

I suppose it goes with the territory of getting involved with such politically charged subjects. Although I need you to know that I am not condoning any of these childish and arrogant behavior  that some of our hamvatans demonstrate.

You say there is so much anti American sentiment here. I agree, but lets not forget that there are anti EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY sentiments, so as long as one does not agree with opposing views. This only demonstrates the lack of understanding and ultimate arrogance in anyone's part who resorts to these kind of tactics.

Back to subject at hand, lets start with the issue of nukes:

1. //iranian.com/main/news/2009/03/24/iranian-mi...

2. //iranian.com/main/news/2009/03/15/allies-clo...

3. //iranian.com/main/news/2009/03/14/former-mi-...

4. //iranian.com/main/news/2009/03/14/iran-propa...

5. //iranian.com/main/news/2009/03/10/iran-has-n...

6. //iranian.com/main/news/2009/03/22/no-proof-i...

You asked: [yes or no... do you disagree that they are just waiting for the chance to take america down? ]

I categorically disagree with notion that Iran is lurking around to take down US. why?

Iran has nothing to gain except unspeakable damage and carnage. It is not in Iran interest any longer to seek war with US nor with Israel, Asides form the usual propaganda, I do not believe that Iran has never sought confrontation with neither of these countries. I do agree that they have been dishing out propaganda and hateful rhetoric, many believe though these are mostly for domestic consumption. Same way rest of the politicians do. Let me remind you of John McCain's[bomb bomb Iran] song and dance in front of AIPAC in past election.

And lets not forget all the calls during Bush Admin for the regime change in Iran. It is not to say I , as a person, am against the regime change, but I will NEVER  want any foreign force to set foot in Iran, no matter how despicable the current regime might be. Issue of regime change is up to Iranians and Iranians only.

I hope I made myself clear, and I hope you, nor anyone else finds my opinions  as being any form of personal attack on anyone. I will always respect everyone and I do expect same in return.

-YT

P/S how did the [Sabzi polo Mahi, and koko] turned out??? ;-)

At least as a clown

I'm entertaining.

As for you, well, let's just say that at least you have opposable thumbs.

As far as your tax analogy, you can go ahead and backpedal all the way to Outer Mongolia.

If you pay more taxes the political establishment kisses your ass? Have you looked at the political establishment lately? Have you looked at how many members of that political establishment have had tax issues over the years?

Do you realize that the Secretary of The Treasury failed to pay taxes, yet he is in charge of the Internal Revenue Service? So by your own standards (such as they are), your political establishment is a moron and a thief.

If an accountant can reduce your tax liability, how does that make you a thief? God, you are truly out of your mind, aren't you?

No wonder you have your head up the IRI's ass. You have proven to be one of the most profoundly ignorant, blatantly uneducated people I have ever had the displeasure of encountering.

If your IQ dropped any lower, we could hold a telethon and raise a ton of cash, but you're too far gone to be even a lost cause.

Kaveh the clown,

First, I did not say that I pay more taxes. I said if Fish can prove that SHE is paying more taxes, then she might argue that she's more WANTED in the US than others, can't any of you guys read?! There's no criterion for being MORE American, and only IDIOTS keep repeating that some are MORE American than others! However, if you pay more taxes, it IS TRUE that the political establishment of the US constantly kiss your ass, republican and democrats, regardless of where your country of birth is. So, if there is a single criterion on who is WANTED more in the US, it is certainly those who pay more taxes.

Second, if your accountant makes you pay less tax than you're supposed to, you are legally a thief and morally a moron.

Finally, you can't deny that IRI is alive and well while the US has been trying to overthrow it for the past thirty years. Clearly, as Khomeini has been saying, the US could not do shit about Iran!

cap'n

to answer your questions.

1.  no, i do not believe it is pre-war propaganda.  i am very comfortable with the knowledge that the US has no intention of entering another war (unless provoked).  i believe this with all my heart.

2.  no, israel is certainly not the only country worthy of existence.  you missed my point totally.  she is our only ally in the middle east.  this is a fact dear captain.

i turn it back to you.  is iran's anti-israel stance pre-war propaganda?  is iran's "death to america" propaganda?  why is it propaganda from one side only?  do you disagree with my assessment that the middle east, russia, china, north korea... would attack if given the chance?  seriously... i ask this question of you.  yes or no... do you disagree that they are just waiting for the chance to take america down? 

your conviction that every country must protect it's citizens applies to everyone... or no one.

you say "It has been almost unanimous consensus that Iran is NOT seeking the bomb".  where do you get your information??????  it is clearly NOT unanimous.  i think you're speaking of a unanimous consensus from iranians.  my friend, the rest of america is not so convinced.

there is so much anti-american sentiment here, it leaps off the page at you.  people like jaleho are even proud of it.  abarmard is more subtle.  he seems to think that unless you agree with him, you're uneducated or unknowledgeable.

i submit that that attitude is the epitome of arrogance. 

i listen and read and observe and i see that y'all are just as insulting to one another as you are me.  it hurts... i'm not going to deny that.  jaleho was quick enough to see that and has made it her mission to be disrespectful.  when i disagree with someone in a respectful manner, i'm called insulting and arrogant and ignorant. 

my husband is insulted and he is your hamvatan!!  my marriage is insulted.  this coming from a centuries old civilization????

there isn't peace and harmony between iranians on iranian.com... a website!  add to the mixture an american married to an iranian with clear loyalties to america yet with a huge interest in iran and her future.  do you realize my IN-LAWS are in iran?  they are my family as well.  do you think i am callous about my concern for THEIR well-being... AND rights?  am i anti-iran because i disagree with certain policies and people?  according to people here, yes.  yet i'm blasted when i suggest that those same people have little vested in america's best interests. 

in many ways this has been a great pleasure and a great honor for me.  i've met some people who i may disagree with but have infinite respect for... yourself included.  and i've met some people who truly scare the shit out of me.  i see such venom and hatred it gives me the shivers. 

so many truly creative people have left iranian.com.  i won't claim to be one of those but i will state that i have always tried to be a friend of iran.  to me that doesn't mean always agreeing 100%...:-) 

i will continue to be optimistic.  this just isn't the forum under which i can be...:-)

The IRI

is in no position to make demands or set terms upon the U.S. or anybody else.

Let me repeat this for those of you who didn't understand this the first time:

The IRI is in no position to make demands or set terms upon the U.S. or anybody else.

I am so goddamn sick and tired of you miserable SOBs who feel beholden to the IRI for some unfathomable reason.

Daryush and Jaleho, go ahead and continue with your online mutual admiration society, augmented with your delusions of intelligence. The only people you are fooling are yourselves.

Iran was too strong for the U.S.? WTF? Were you dropped on your head? The mollahs were on their knees in front of Israel to get spare parts for all of the F-14s and F-4s in the early '80s, remember? Oh, yeah, THAT'S strong. Strong like bull(shit).

"Iran vaaz too essterong for Yoo Ess". Sounds like Iron Sheik on Saturday morning. The difference is, he knows it's all BS.

Jaleho, paying more taxes doesn't prove that you're more American than anyone else. It only proves you have a shitty accountant.

Daryush, you're not living in Iran, we all know that. You can admit it. We all know that you're living in Fantasy Land.

ابرمرد و کاپیتان

باشه. ولی‌ این fish احمق خیلی‌ ور زیادی میزنه. وقتی‌ این همه حماقت و بیسوادی با وقاحت و از خود ممنونی همره باشه، معجون بدی ازش در میاد. وقتی‌ زیادی در مورد ایران و ایرانی‌‌ها با دماغ سر بالا حرف میزنه، یک تو دهنی براش بد نیست تا کمکی آدم بشه!

Jaleho

Remind yourself that there are enough tools and information available for those who really seek the knowledge, and leave it at that. Some people choose to remain in a level.

Happy Tuesday :)

Jaleho

به من ربطی نداره هر طوری که دوست دارین رفتار کونین. ولی که چی بشه اخه با یک مشت افرادی که غیراز جنگ ونفرت حالیشون نیست, در مورد صلح وآشتی بحث کنه؟

-YT

Dear Captain,

missing the professorial lectures, aren't we?  ;-)

Jaleho, Zion

With all due respect, why don't you two ladies demonstrate your conviction in more civilized manor.

Both of you ladies are intelligent , bright, and dedicated to your convictions, but lets not start WWIII here in this site.

When all is said and done, we are , as individuals, merely pawns in the theater of few crazy leaders[Khamenie, Bibiyahoo, Bush, Obama].

Regards

-YT

Dear Zion, IRI is alive and well, thanks!

Much to your chagrin, the IRI and the spirit of revolution does not need the Ayatollahs, as you provided the proof.

IRI is not a fake illegitimate "country" like Israel which would be dead the minute US stops its charity from a piss-ant 6 million beggar entity! That's why Israel has to constantly beg and whine around the world, playing victim and fearing a disappearnace from the map, and Israeli regime is close to that, historically speaking. IRI on the other hand, is the embodiment of aspirations of 70 million Iranians and has lived all kinds of evil designs against its existence. Didn't you get the pizza to watch that BBC documentary with Ann Fish?

The point which you missed was that Anonymous Fish is better visit the grave of Reagan, and soon Bush and Carter to understand where those who dreamed about regime change in Iran went. It is just a dream of ignorant Americans who don't understand anything about Iranians. I thought you'd actually catch that, but I guess you're going around Anonymous Fish too much these days and that  kind of osmosis is no good for you. 

Fishie

In the light of these videos I like you to answer these questions:

1.Question

Could this be a pre-war propaganda?

Could this be nothing but propaganda aimed at the US population to put
on a mask of "civility" in order to justify the upcoming attack?

Obama is deeply in bed with Israel. His chief of staff Rahm Israel Emanuel is an IDF member.

2. [the US will and MUST continue to protect herself and Israel.]

I could not agree with you more, HOWEVER, is Israel the only nation who has the right of existence? How about rest of the countries in that region?

My conviction is, every and all the governments in the world MUST protect their citizens at any price. What ever we call IR is befitting them, they are failure in many arenas of government, HOWEVER they MUST NOT fail in protecting Iranian citizens, with what ever means possible.

It has been almost unanimous consensus that Iran is NOT seeking the bomb. Exception noted for all the propaganda Israel has been dishing out. 

Finally, name one country that Iran has attacked in past 300 years.

-YT

TREASON...FOR WHO?

The overwhelming majority of Iranian-Americans, or American-Iranians, have TWO COUNTRIES!! Love the people, the principles...a flag means nothing without those elements.

Many people on here seem to think you are an odd fish.

What do you think Mexican Americans do? Do they betray one country for the other? It's like being Obama...both Black AND White...you cannot separate the two.

Please consider going back to school and updating your analysis, research, and cognitive processing skills...you will enjoy it the most, and we will be proud of your intellectual progress.
Mobarakeh...kuchuloo shaytoon. Shoma Farsi harf mizanid hala...lotfan, agar shoma mifahmi.

Or his successor?

This one is not that far away from following suite his predecessor [and that good ole camelf*er grandaddy way before them both who started it all... ;-) ] either!

Zion

What about the Ayatoilet?

'Those presidents are either in grave now, close to it...'

People get old and die. The point is, those presidents served their country for 4 or 8 years, left power legally and peacefully and lived, or still live a respectable life as a human being. Unlike the ayatoilets that run your country, cringing to power till they die and go off to rot in hell. What happened to that old bugger Grand suck-toilet Khomeini?

[such class and dignity, btw:
//i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/saycheeez/Kh...
;-) ]

Zion

IRAN = ZERO NUCLEAR WEAPONS...

To 'Anonymous Fish'...I do agree with you about the IR government, almost all Iranians worldwide are tired of them.
However, instead of assuming you know about nuclear weapons, please have the maturity to not belittle people to make yourself feel better.
My cousin in Tehran has a friend that works at one of the facilities. I asked him point blank...are they building any? He said absolutely NOT. He would not lie to me.

Just because the IR government are jerks, does NOT mean they have any nuclear weapons. Who's going to know real facts from fiction, an Iranian that just came from Tehran, or someone who has never even been there.
Sorry, but you need to get some manners, and some maturity to actually stop acting like you know all of these things based on what? Your ideas? Not the same as real fact darling.

Daryush - You are a light weight

Quote:

Firstly they are baggers who don't produce worth of $hit,

have you tasted their Fallafel & Humus? They are not shit. 

And 

 The enemy of Iran is my enemy,

That makes the entire western countries, and all Sunni Arabs.

and a friend of Iran is my friend.

How any of them have left to speak of. Even Hizbollah & hamas "friend" of your money to the tune of $500M a year. Cut the aid, and see how long will remain so-called "friends". Try days!!

Iranian Jews are returning from Israel, 

can you provide any credible evidence?. You live in a la la land. To get out of Iran, many sell their homes and quietly rent homes for few months. Then go to Istanbul for "vacations", there with the help of Israeli representatives, are boarded on Israeli plane and flown to Israel, never return to motherland Iran.

Go get a life mister. spewing blind hate, only demonstrates your inability to present a credible and intelligent argument. So you resort to garbage against "Zionists".

Try the the ghorme'e Sabzi. it is delicious dish.

Dear Anonymous Fish,

Repeat yourself until you're blue, then! See who cares!

As much as you are against Iran's nuclear program, the point is that neither you, nor Israel, nor the US can do a damn thing about it. Try to digest that. Or, continue to shout that Iran must not...blah blah...if that make your impotence more tolerable to you.

Did you see that documentary? all US presidents since the revolution have been trying to say the same thing about IRI. Those presidents are either in grave now, close to it, or like Bush and yourself have repeated themselves until they went blue! blue, still irrelevant.

cap'n

#1... the election is over.  bush is GONE!!!!!!!  didn't you hear about it yet?  so what point are you making?

and again... hillary is right.  is IRI financially and verbally supporting hamas and hizbollah or not?  never mind.  forget it being a question.  it is a FACT.  and hamas is a terrorist group.  IRI is a terrorist group.  fine, go ahead and call the US a terrorist group... it DOES NOT MAKE ONE BIT OF DIFFERENCE.  the US will and MUST continue to protect herself and israel.  the IRI hates america.  it follows that the IRI will attack given ANY opportunity.  we are not going to sit twiddling our thumbs HOPING the iranian people rise up against their repressive regime.

cap'n

with much respect to you, i would like to point out one thing.  there is extremely little and inconclusive proof that iran is not pursuing nuclear weapons.  if you think the US is going to accept the word of the supreme leader, you're simply naive.  to further follow logic... and as a teacher, you should allow for the reasoning... IF iran IS pursuing nukes, they're going to deny it.  IF iran DOES achieve nuclear warheads, it's also logical to assume that based on their threats against israel (wiping them off the face of the world), they are a danger and a threat to israel AND to the US who has made it perfectly clear she will defend israel.  so endless denials does absolutely NOTHING to reassure the US.  and i stand behind obama 100% in protecting israel.  i'll say it until i'm blue in the face.  regardless of what crimes israel may have committed and regardless of how most americans DO think we should cut the apron strings (myself included), there isn't a chance in hell of allowing anyone to attack her.  she is the only ally we have in the middle east.  i repeat myself.  she is the only ally we have in the middle east.  and with all the anti-american rhetoric we hear day in and day out... and especially here on iranian.com... americans are 100% justified in being scared shitless of iran obtaining nukes.  with russia waiting in the back wing and north korea and the chinese... all three of whom will court iran behind the scene to attack the US... we WILL protect ourselves and our allies. 

you know me better than to attack me with labels.  you know i'm not anti-iranian.  i'm not anti-iranian PEOPLE or CULTURE.  i am as anti-IRI as i can possibly be.   

IRI is the enemy of america.  IRI supporters are the enemy of america.  and IRI supporters are my enemies.  i can't say it plainly enough.

and this one

-YT

meanwhile

Lets not forget this:

-YT

little things amuse little minds

but what else to expect from the IRI? 

paying taxes has nothing to do with being american.  but if you WERE american, you'd know that.  besides... i thought you were iranian?  american today, iranian tomorrow???  LOLOL

i'm rather proud of the fact that i've reduced you to the pathetic name-calling that you're so good at.  if you had anything relevant to say, you would.  but alas, it's not to be.  :-)  can't you do any better than to copy MY words!!!  tisk tisk.

daryush.  nobody believes you live in iran...lol

now... you children go on back to bed.  the adults want to talk now.

Hello Daryush!

I had promised myself not to have a good time on account of poor Anonymous Fish. At one point I thought it is not so nice since she really lacks mental ability.  I told her that one extends love and care to a retard, but not when the retard walks around arrogantly and shows off her ignorance with an "I am more Parisian than you" attitude.

But hey, she constantly asks for it! Am I evil having so much fun on her account when she begs for it?!

PS. I can't wait for her to come out and say, "no no, I am not more Parisian than you, I am more American than you." I love forcing her to make a public clown out of herself :-) :-) :-)

One More thing

This "act" as I am pro Obama is bunch of belony. These people don't have a compass nor enough information to really know what they are or against. Doesn't her comment fits more with the line of Bush : You are either with us or against us?

Confused person. She had to go and hide in the arms of the most conservatives right wing racists members in this site. Go figure. hmm, so it's more important to be pro Israel than pro Democratic administration. ha, isn't that interesting. Now Ann Fishi should know why she is a Zionist who cares more about Israel than the United States.

It's so nice to live in Iran and be away from Nazism. I like it, some might not care.

Dear Friend, Jaleho

Why bother talking to a racist Zionist? I smelled Nazi mentality the moment I read her comment first. No matter what, the tone of Zionists and their "Open minded" mask is always similar.

They rap the American flag to do their crimes against humanity. What else is new.

Let them dirty our air with their useless existence, who cares. Look at them, they are losing any ways. Israel will not survive according to CIA, now let them go and scream their throat out. One good thing I learned coming to this site is that as I used to be a moderate and didn't care much about Israel, I am a changed man. I see them and their behavior and don't like it a bit. Firstly they are baggers who don't produce worth of $hit, second they have a sense of entitlement for the world to bend backwards for them.

A quick trip anywhere in the world, anywhere, will show you that their attitude is hated. Simple as that.

You are an intelligent and humane person, don't waste your time with bunch of racist, power hungry low lives.

The enemy of Iran is my enemy, and a friend of Iran is my friend. We are not a nation to be afraid of war mentality. Zionists must learn that, hopefully not the hard way. Because if they ask too much, they might just get what they deserve.

Regardless of Iran, Israel will not live in this format. No matter how much Zionists and their lackeys enforce money and weapons in to its throat.

Iranian Jews are returning from Israel, I am encouraging some of them to start a blog about the real life of Israelis and their racist mentality.

Last thing, those people who I have seen openly racist and think that "their" problem will be solved by just killing the "Fv$%ing" ayrabs, will get their own teachings in the long run. I will bet my life on it. What a bunch of low life, racist bastards.