Using Bombs to Stave Off War
New York Times / Benny Morris
18-Jul-2008 (10 comments)

ISRAEL will almost surely attack Iran’s nuclear sites in the next four to seven months — and the leaders in Washington and even Tehran should hope that the attack will be successful enough to cause at least a significant delay in the Iranian production schedule, if not complete destruction, of that country’s nuclear program. Because if the attack fails, the Middle East will almost certainly face a nuclear war — either through a subsequent pre-emptive Israeli nuclear strike or a nuclear exchange shortly after Iran gets the bomb

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Disenchanted

Nuclear strike on Iran by Israel

by Disenchanted on Fri Jul 18, 2008 02:44 AM PDT

This shameless author/professor calls for genocide and openly threatens Iran with a nuclear strike! US should not allow Israel to drag it to another war. Iranian and American people have many values and interests in common and seek a friendly relation. Israel is best advised to change its racist, inhumane conduct and policies rather than make it a US problem!


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those to blame are in Tehran, Qom

by Arash Kamangir (not verified) on Sat Jul 19, 2008 08:49 AM PDT

I believe that Israel will consider using nuclear attack against Iran if the world cannot find a solution, Specially if Israel feels that the new US-administration will be tolerating IRI.
A regime that is well known for its oppresion against his people and his hostilities against Israel cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons.If it ever comes to a preemptive nuclear attack against IRI, then we should not point our fingers toward Israel as the cause. The responsibles sit in Tehran and Qom.

Payandeh Iran


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Jaleho

The Jewish Salzberger family's NYTimes

by Jaleho on Sat Jul 19, 2008 07:09 AM PDT

which BTW owns huge number of other big news papers around the world and the US, including Boston Globe, Der Speigel and International Herald Tribune think they can do an Iraq redux!

The Jews owning the media have been successful in the past to push Israel's war on the US, but possible wars! As Thomas Friedman said, if it were not for a good handful of people, the Iraqi war would not have happened. Considering that those few people were all Jews, some like himself and Judith Miller just the Jewish News people, and others were powerful Israeli-first neocons, he said this arrogantly of course to boast.

Things these arrogant Jews forget is this:

1) Israel has been created and used by western powers, and after 1956 by US exclusively, as a CONDOM to have safe sex with Arab oil.

2)Israel indeed served that purpose nicely up to the fall of Soviet Union.

3)The usefulness of Israel post soviet times is finished. Now the only thing that has been ARTIFICIALLY keeping US-Israel realtion as before is the Israeli Lobby, the wishful thinking of some old hags of US foreign policy hoping that Israel can still serve the military lobby positively,

4)The Jewsih hold in the media as shown by the effectiveness of Iraq war pushed by Jews like Salzberger family were strong, but internet is killing that power rapidly. Furthermore,  NYTimes which was one of the pillars making the war possible, lost credibility among Americans because of the lies it spread for Iraq war. Just look at its stock since 2003 lies:

//finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=NYT#chart1:symb...

5) Despite huge extra time and extra EMERGENCY bombs that US gave to Israel to finish off Hezbollah in Lebanon, Israel couldn't handle a small proxy militia of Iran under its nose! That alone has proved the US that the times that Israel begged and got BILLIONS boasting its effectiveness as in 6 day war victory, is OVER. Israel is now just a LIABILITY for US dragging it into wars directly, not the good bulldog it used to serve its American boss.

6)  The statements like "Israel has to do it itself" is just toothless barkings of Israeli dogs to engage America before it leaves the region.

7)War with Iran is suicidal for the US and no amount of Jewish propaganda is going to force the US to do it. US will flush the well served Israeli condom before any attempt at a war with Iran.

 

 

 

Jaleh


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No way!

by Ali reza (not verified) on Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:50 PM PDT

If Israel decides to attack Iran,they need to consider few things.First Iran has Lebanon s' Hezbollah and Palestine s' Hamas ,Islamic Jihad and it has Syria as well.Second the nuclear fallout from Bushehr site would effect the Persian gulf countries and this is something that they need to consider.Third the price of oil would jump to record high,and this is something that is not good for USA.fourth if they wanted to attack Iran they would have done it without publicizing it like they did with Iraq and Syria.Peace on Earth


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Majid

Let them!

by Majid on Fri Jul 18, 2008 04:20 PM PDT

If Israel learned anything from 33 days long war of 2007 with Hamaas "Iran's puppet", they would not kiss their asses good bye

It's NOT 1967, and Iran is NOT  Israel's neighbors then

If they think they can repeat what they did to Sadaam's nuclear facility or what they did to Jordan, Syria, Egypt etc... in 1967, then this will happen 

قور باغه  میخواست ادای فیل رو در بیاره، خودش رو زیادی گنده کرد، ترکید


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Abarmard

blah blah blah

by Abarmard on Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:17 AM PDT

Same old same old none sense from Israeli government. They can not handle anything in their own size, how can they bite a piece million times bigger than their mouth?

Nuke? That would be the end of Israel, and justified too.

 


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Shiny Head

Iran will survive, here is why

by Shiny Head on Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:01 AM PDT

 (sorry for posting this again. Somehow my previous post got deleted!)

When Nixon met Mao prior to normalization of relations, told him I am going to nuke China. While listening to him in a relaxed manner, Mao replied, and I am going to nuke America. Mao went on to say, if you nuke china, you kill  50, may be 100 million Chinese. That is less than 2% of china's population. If we drop a nuke on you and 50-100 million die, that is the end of America.

The same situation exists in the hypothetical case of nuclear exchange between Israel and Iran.

 

Have a nice cold beer


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Russia is controlled by the jews!

by no_name (not verified) on Fri Jul 18, 2008 09:29 AM PDT

Don't fool yourselves with Russia. All the so called oligarchs have Israeli passports. During the Yelstin years the Jews got exclusive rights to all major industries and natural resources of Russia.

How do you think all these guys went from nothing to overnight billionaires. They own soccer teams in UK, buy glorious mansions in US and have unlimited wealth.

Anytime you don't see coverage of such success in US media you should know it effects the jews in some ways.

Russia internally is so much controlled by the Jews that they are not going to do anything for Iran.


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Darius Kadivar

Russia's Gazprom signs major energy deal with Iran

by Darius Kadivar on Fri Jul 18, 2008 08:34 AM PDT


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Darius Kadivar

Do THAT and the Russians will move in ...

by Darius Kadivar on Fri Jul 18, 2008 08:13 AM PDT

Amercians and Israelis would be Very stupid to do such a thing cause it will only pave the way for the Russian industry to invest in Iran and build our nucleare reactors and maybe even bombs.

At this stage If I were them I would grant the IRI a diplomatic victory on the nucleare issue on the short term and instead invest in the Iranian Civil movement for Democracy and Human Rights.

The IRI cannot escape that issue even if they were to have the bomb. With a growing unsatisfied population the Islamic government will then have to seek rother easons to convince them than blame it all on the  the Americans or  Israelis for their terrible economy.

If Israel Strikes Iran ( which is a possibility, even if I don't wish it to happen) the tension will only give rise to a redistribution of forces in the middle East and Russia will certainly try and occupy the place that the US had in IRan before the Revolution.

Not Striking Iran would on the otherhand put the Iranian government in the face of its own responsabilities towards its population.

Its truly mathematical logic here and suggesting an attack on Iran would be the biggest blunder by Israel and the US in their entire foreign policy history.

 


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