A Question for Mr. Jahanshah Javid

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Zion
by Zion
12-Jan-2009
 

Dear Sir,

I'm not sure if you are aware or not, but I am the target of many personal attacks in your website. I don't mind the attacks. What I do mind somewhat is the way your moderators have been applying double standards in the way they handle different comments and different users. They allow many such vicious attacks to be published, but they delete any response I and others give to them even though, in almost all cases, my language and that of others has been much milder and not comparable. Not only that, but my comments regarding mere questions about the policies of the site addressed to moderators themselves are being systematically deleted. case in point, in the comment section following the link below:

//iranian.com/main/2009/jan/bill-moyers-m...

A user had left a comment directed to me, even though I did not even participate in that thread up to that point in time.
This is the comment, with the original header before it was "cleaned" a bit after I objected:


[Sharmootah Zion, hiding? Shame on U! Google "Money Masters"
by gol-dust on Sun Jan 11, 2009 07:17 PM PST
You are partner in crime! Shame on U and all the israelis and their supporters! You know no God, no humanity! You get what you deserve! Wait and see, if you believe in your own god! U R just waiting before U come back w/ your BS propeganda you chicken Sh..
If israel acts this way for a while, then I can see the mahmood's projection will come true! The world rulers! The Money Masters! //video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6076118677860424204]

Yet despite similar notices issued to me and certain others for much less than this, the following comment is allowed to remain there. Instead my several attempts (up to 10 times already) to ask a question of the moderators regarding this policy has been deleted.
Here is a sample of my question:

[(Title)To Moderators: Please do not delete this question. (end of Title)
It is relevant to this thread. It is about a comment on this thread. It is now many times that I am writing you to ask a simple question and my comment is being deleted. Please, I just want to know why the conditions of the following notice:
[by Moderator 1234 on Mon Dec 29, 2008 05:14 PM PST
Please stay on the topic of discussion, refrain from addressing other registered users who are not on this thread, and using insulting language. Unrelated and insulting comments will be deleted.]

does not apply to the comment written here
gol-dust on Sun Jan 11, 2009 07:17 PM PST
which starts with the title (originally):
Sharmootah Zion, hiding? Shame on U! Google "Money Masters"
Why did this comment not get a notice and why wasn't it deleted?
and why have my comments containing these questions to you been deleted many times already in this thread?
Could you please be kind enough not to delete my question any more and instead give an answer to my question?
Thank you.
PS. If you don't want me to ask you here, where else should I take this matter? ]

Not only are they being immediately deleted, but even my mentioning it in another thread is being immediately deleted as well. namely here:
//iranian.com/main/blog/samsam1111/ziono-...

This is not an isolated case. It is a good example among many many similar cases.

So sir, I have to ask you now about this policy. Are you aware of this? Are you aware of what the moderators are doing here?
If you are, then do you mind answering the questions I raised in the comments I quoted here as well?

Thank You.

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Zionists, take it easy

by Non-Zionist (not verified) on

Come on. All you 'registered' Zionist users who support Zion's complaint;

Why don't you voice opposition when other people like Muslims are attacked and bashed. We don't see those hateful words against all Muslims being filtered, do we?

I can understand radical Islamists being bashed, but why these people who suck up to Zionists keep quiet when all other innocent people and their religion is bashed?

So if you don't like it and like to leave, go ahead.
GOOD RIDDINGS!!! Don't come back.


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to: amused

by Anonymous fishie (not verified) on

you have NO IDEA what your talking about. you have no idea how long i've been on this site. you have no idea who i am. i have been on numerous sites and i've been on IC quite some time. and i might point out that your comment that the moderators won't tolerate such stuff is absolutely hilarious. forget other bloggers. they may or may NOT censor someone who does.

"those of us who are regulars"...? who are you? your just another anonymous fishie. a regular? so where are YOUR registered comments?

jj is a big boy. he doesn't need you to take up for him. he IS the editor and owner. he IS the one people go to with comments and questions and suggestions AND complaints. that is called "his job". that's why people HAVE websites.

if by "genuous" you meant "geniune", again, don't try to determine my level of interest in IC. you HAVE NOT IDEA what your talking about. so just stop with the silliness... ok?


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zion,

by Yek goldfisheh koochooloo (not verified) on

Each action has a reaction.


Just for an example on //iranian.com/main/blog/hajminator/divide-con...


You said: ... About standing for what is right. It is sometimes needed for some feelings to get hurt. Cultures that try to shy away from this, no matter what nice poetic excuses they find, stop growing, and when a culture stops growing, it deteriorates ...


It comes to some of us here that you behave like Israel in Palestine.


Israelis hits Palestinians to teach them a lesson. It is a motto that has accompanied the Zionist enterprise since its beginning: we are the representatives of progress and enlightenment, while Arabs are a primitive and violent crowd; they are ignorant children who need to be educated.


This behaviour hadn't work on Palestinians and we don’t like to be treated like this either.


As what I understand from what you complain (your censorship) is: Azizam, we haven't anything against you, but change your behavior we don’t like lesson givers. Or, at least if you give lessons, be honest and accept the default of the Zionist regime like the massacre that they are perpetuating in Gaza.


In this case and for my part, I'll listen to your suggestions very carefully.


Azarin Sadegh

Dear Zion,

by Azarin Sadegh on

I have to say that I feel a bit like you and I feel shocked to see so many hateful (and racist) comments going through the existing moderators on IC. I hope JJ would reconsider the existing system of filtering comments...otherwise many (like me) would feel resentful to  participate in the discussions, or even to write for the site...and it's pretty sad.

Thanks, Azarin


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You too Anonymous fishie

by amused (not verified) on

You don't sound you have real interest here either. Again, you know how come I know this? Because I can tell you have very limited familiarity with this site. If you had the kind of genuine interest that would take you to many posts on this site you would know that no one ever says "death to jews" or to any other group of people. I'm sure there are lots of jerks who might think that sort of thing but the moderators, and indeed other commentators, do not tolerate that sort of thing.

We diss America, government and people? That's mild compared to the way we diss Iran, government and people! If your interest were not completely disingenous you would have noticed that by now.

As for Jahanshah Javid, most of us here have no idea what and who and where he is beyond what he writes here. Those of us who have been regulars have developed a kind of cyber friendship among ourselves only based on what we write here and without knowing who or where everybody is. Now, again, if you were genuous in your interest in this site you would have become part of that "clique" too. That "clique" is nothing but a group of people who get a kick out of eachother's comments and articles -- and occasionally kick each other around!

It's very interesting that the people with interests that are genuine don't whine and complain and accuse the publisher and moderators. They are busy enjoying, or getting mad at, or having whatever reaction they're having to the content. They don't harass the publisher. Do you also write to the editors and publishers of other publications telling them what to do?


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to: amused?

by Anonymous but amused (not verified) on

are you not posting anonymously as well?

"amused" is absolutely right...LOL


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stick to the subject

by Anonymous fishie (not verified) on

please. zion is not discussing the current situation in gaza. she is discussing the unfair moderation which has been going on for a long long time. forget how you feel about israel. can any of you deny the unfair advantage some select registered users have over others? the little cliques that exist between jj and some certain people? comments have been deleted for vulgarity. PULEAZ! shit or damn are not allowed but "death to jews" or "go to hell" ARE?

you have made this site virtually impossible for any non-iranian to participate in. you diss the US right and left and criticize both the government and the people. you say you have that right because your americans now yourselves. but if anyone criticizes YOU or what YOU say, they are vulgar and arrogant.

again, NO. it is YOU who are vulgar and arrogant with your criticisms of everyone and everything else and blaming everyone else for the woes in iran.

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN FAILURES. TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. the hypocrisy seen on this website is beyond upsetting. it now is simply amusing.


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Putting it as mildly as I can

by amused (not verified) on

Mr. Zion, you have what in Iran we call roo. You and a lot of people like you writing anonymously have virtually "infested" (as one of the commentators put it) this site and then you complain that you're not getting enough representation?

Your presence here, and the presence of most of those who echo and support you, is unnatural here. You know how come I know this? Because I've been coming here for a long time and have a good feeling for the kinds of people who visit this site out of real interest and real connection to Iran. You don't sound anything like them, and not just because of your political views. You don't have any real interest in Iran or Iranians. One really wonders why you're here and where you came from.


amirkabear4u

My question to zion

by amirkabear4u on

There are some complains about this site why not from you,

BUT:

In regard to israel supporters, I want to know, eventhough they claiming to be very democratic, they tend to be rude, arrogant and vulgar in their blog? I do know which side started it, but one thing is for sure it is your fault too zion. There is at least another site user, with his stupied avatar, who behaves like you. There are a lot of words and comments which definitely coming from your side. Your type insult a lot of Iranian muslems then complain, like a cry baby, to JJ if someone answer you back. WHY?

I WANT TO KNOW WHY?

WHY SHOULD YOU BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY?


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hahah! just like Zionists!

by Anonymous8 (not verified) on

you tell Palestinians to kill Hamas so you don't have to get your own hands dirty.

Now you want Jahanshah to do your dirty work even in your absense!