Sargord Pirouz

Rosie jaan,

I certainly understand your feeling specially given the personalities involved here. We all, I have come to expect much more from JJ and I really hope he clarifies it just to salvage his credibility if for no other reason.

Mehrdad

Rosie

You are certainly not included in the A** Kisser list. And I am sorry that what I shared here from google caused you pain, although I don't think it should.

Look at it this way, Elton John sings at Rush's wedding.  True he did it for a cool one million but he can sing and JJ can't. And a million to Elton is probably what the zionist ads revenue is to JJ.

Cheer up. There are still some decent folk left in the world. Concern yourself with them, not the riff raff ;)

Mehrdad,

thanks.  i told sargord to check with google because i thought it would prove him wrong. i didn't expect this to happen in a million years. and it hurts.

Rosie

Excuse me there, Hello Miss. Your show is over here okay? Time to go and take a seat and put your feet up and just relax.  It is our turn now to make jokes and have our own conversation. It is not about what you declare it is about. That is for sure.

Rosie,

This is indeed interesting finding and I hope JJ clarifies it. I also put the question to him this morning in another blog, his own, and it all seemed he was dodging the question. Ironically, I have not seen the ads since last night despite trying and hitting the links that would be subject related.

And I agree, this is not about SP any more.

Mehrdad

Rosie

You are too wrapped up in this JJ thing. Obviously he choses not to reply. He is under no obligation to oblige any question you or anyone posts. 

To many others this thread *is* about SP and his inane obsession with Israel. JJ is a good guy. He has made this site and that is more than we have done. 

You posed your question. Now wait and see. He will either reply or not. Personally I don't care and to me he is a good guy either regardless. 

Remember: I asked Abarmard about Palestinian anti Iranian racism and never heard back. I asked lots of people lots of things but never heard back. So what.

this is not about sargord anymore, dr.x

this is not about sargord.

Identity crisis

Code blue! code Blue!

I think our sargord here is having problems deciding and figuring out who he really is. All these avatar-changing are hinting at something.

Abort mission. Abort Mission.:))

'jj' did you or didn't you intentionally lie when you said that

you have no control over what ads appear onsite? because google says any website owner can have a specific ad filtered. 

at first i didn't believe you could lie, but then someone showed us google's side of the story, and i asked and asked you over and over again to just show up and say something. if you lied, so what, so an apology and it's over. if you didn't, great. but refusing to answer is...is...is...

WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY LISTEN?

this is not a free speech issue. this is not about the ad content. this is not about people making fun of the blog because sargord wrote it. so it isn't even about what sargord says it's about.

this is about jahanshah saying he has no control over the ads, and me encouraging sargord to go to google and find out if he does, thinking jahanshah wouldn't lie. and somene else doing it and showing that google says any website admin can have a specific ad filtered. and why not? we're talking about google's capabilties. what would a palestinian website do about this ad? 

personally i don't give a damn about the ad content even though i'm anti-israeli regime or even whether he lied. if he responds to the question. but he won't, and that i do give a damn about. and so should you.

sorry i left without saying anything

i suddenly got really sick,and dropped into bed. something like food poisoning. i'm glad some people are participating on the thread. i haven't read the new posts yet, just scanned them. i'll try to write something after i do, in a little while.

VPK

Please show some compassion for the Phony Sargord. He is suffering from a case of Joo-on-the-Brain Derangement Syndrome (JDS). It afflicts a number of our brothers and sisters on this website and may gradually lead to a total nervous breakdown, paranoid delusions about Jooz, and a tendency to make wild, unsubstantiated accusations (about Jooz, of course). These people deserve our sympathy, and in all likelihood, a straitjacket; SP can decorate his jacket with military "honors" from the IRI's top notch armed forces. Yours truly  :-)

SP

Yeh right! JJ singlehandedly funded the attack on Iran. Are you on drugs? All of us on IC would not be able to do it *even* if we wanted to. Of course most of don't want to. If JJ is so powerful why does he not just snap his fingers and make IRI vanish.

Dude, the money that these ads bring is minuscule in the greater scheme of things. The much more important thing is the actions of IRI. When AN opens his mouth *he* is inflaming the Israeli supporters to pour money into this.

You need to get a reality check. If IRI and people like you were not so obsessed with Israel Iran would not be in this mess. But of course you are poor innocent SP and poor innocent IRI. They are misunderstood. Why don't they shut the **** up and leave Israel alone? As we say in Persian "taneshon mikhareh". 

To add to the mess IRI pick this time to decide to stone a woman. Great PR relations man; really brilliant. Next they move to execute a man for trumped up sodomy charges. The main opposition to war in the USA comes from Liberals. Most of whom are appalled by stoning women and executing someone even if they did sodomy. So IRI in effect is alienating the very people who would be lobbying against and attack. I really think they want a war. They sure act like it or are incredibly stupid or more likely both.

Well, if and when the bombs

Well, if and when the bombs start falling on Iran, we'll look back on this and remember that JJ derived revenue from a group that helped make it all happen. That is to say, the owner of this site enabled the cause.

And for all those who thought it okay, we'll see how y'all feel should this horror become reality.

VPK can be accused of many things but anti-Iran

He doesn't need me to defend him, he has his long record here to speak for him.

Meanwhile, one got to love Google and their engineering concepts & design.

They must have realized how offending and provocative their Pro Israeli ads are to IC readers and so they have stopped it. I have not seen any of their ads since last night.

Mehrdad

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SP

You are missing the point. The ads are useless on IC since they don't reach the target audiance. I rather see them *waste* their money on IC than to advertise somewhere that reaches a sympathetic audiance.

Get it now?

VPK, by that response I take

VPK, by that response I take it you find it acceptable for IC to derive income from a group advocating death and destruction upon the people of Iran.

Now its out in the open.

So when I say you're anti-Iran, you can't deny it. 

No mistake about it: this issue has been quite revealing. 

SP

• The ads only work if they reach a target audience. How many people on IC do you think will respond to the ads? 
• If you and your buddies in IRI gave up obsession with Israel the problem would be solved.
• If you object I have one word: *tough*. Your buddies murder and rape Iranians for sport. I object to that. How do you respond?
• This site belongs to JJ not you. If you don't like it: move on. No one is forcing you to be in here.

You are an example of Islamic bully. Always demanding one thing after other. Always the pretend victim but real perpetrator. We are not buying it. Now keep complaining it is not going to get you anywhere. I hope JJ keeps the ads just to prove he is not bullied by you.

Hey, like I said before, I'm

Hey, like I said before, I'm not the only one whose seen the ads here. Many others have, too.

The ads can be withdrawn by request of the site owner. Apparently, that's not being done. Or at least we haven't been informed of such.

The issue really isn't in the laps of those without some form of blocking plug-in. Rather, the issue is Iranian.com deriving revenue from the "Stand with Israel" site, which advocates war be launched against the people of Iran.

If you don't find this objectionable, then we know where each other stand. Myself, I do not wish to see the people of Iran bombed by Israel, and I object to JJ making money in support of such a cause.

This is really a simple issue to understand: profiteering from supporting a pro-Zionist cause in its quest for war, or rejection of such. Ask yourself, where do you stand? 

Yes Escape

You are 100% right. This is what I keep saying. Google ads respond to an individuals interests. I got some more ads for Persian Rugs. That is because Persian Rugs are my passion. SP's passion is obviously Israel and Zionism so he keeps getting these. 

This is just like IRI complaining about Israel always talking about them. Well it is the IRI own obsession with Israel that attacks their attention. Like all perpetrators SP and his like blame anyone but themselves. SP: Khodet kardi ke laanat bar khodat bad.

Thanks for stating the obvious yet one more time.

VPK

Sargord, Rosie,

The warmonger's ad has not reappeared since yesterday. So maybe they've heard us and have stopped it.

JJ is only Pro Free-Speech

Sadly this means that bad people as well as good people can advertise on this site if they want to. By bad I mean non-denominationally of course.

Sadly still, it is more often the case that Bad people happen to have a lot more money than good people. Look it up, tell me I'm wrong.

If indeed "Money is the root of all evil", than it is elementary that those "evil among us" would therefore have all the money, and consequently place all the ads.

From my understanding of how funding works at Iranian.com, here is the scoop: (by no means do I speak for JJ, but I simply know he never defends himself, so I will if that's OK)

Most of the money for Iranian.com comes not from ads, but from private funders, or donors, or supporters, or fans, and a fair number of relatives of JJ, who want to help him accomplish a rather difficult if heroic feat.

It has always been JJ's hope that the site could be self funded from advertising, but sadly this has not been the case.

The primary reason is that since Iranian.com has a global internet reach, and most Iranian businesses don't, the logic in putting an ad on Iranian.com doesn't make much sense, if you are an Iranian business locally based in say, LA. What do you care if an Iranian.com reader in NY or London sees your ad? Attempts to regionalize the ads on Iranian.com by access IP address, have been largely unsuccessful.

A regional Iranian business wants regional coverage, and while I am sure a large number of Iranian.com readers live in LA, this is pretty much lost to the LA based Iranian business owner, and certainly there are no demographics or statistics to prove the Iranian.com readership's locality.

Furthermore, Iranian businesses, never support Iranian sites anyway and don't value advertising period. As evidenced by the horribly unattractive and often awful ads you see, for the short duration they seem to tolerate. For example there has never been an annual advertiser on Iranian.com, mostly they advertise for a month and then leave.

So that's boring.

The other source of ad revenue is through the Ad-word fed Google ads, that feed ads based on the keywords that are bought from Google. Iranian.com being a feeder site, has no control over these ads but can suppress them if objectionable and if there was the staff to do it. An ad for a Zionist organization could be appearing on ANY Iranian site subscribed to the same Google Ad-word configuration, if the Zionist ad buyer bought the key words subscribed to by the average Iranian site.

I'm not saying this is what happened. I don't know anything about the Zionist ad you mentioned. I will tell you why in a second.

The ad could have been bought through Iranian.com directly, or fed into Iranian.com through the advertiser buying the Google adwords Iranian.com subscribes to.

Either way this is a Freedom of Speech issue, and although I don't know a lot about JJ, especially his choice of residency (Mexico? Then Budapesht? wtf?), I do know that regardless of how it makes him look personally, JJ will never restrict anyone's Personal Freedom of Speech. Within decency.

That being said, what better way to show our freedom, and what better testament to what this site was founded upon, than to allow ANY ad, to express it's opinion freely.

Now, as to why I don't know about the Zionist ad you mentioned. AS is my right and freedom to do, I have installed AdBlock plus (available for free on Firefox as a plug-in). This plug-in allows me to block ALL ads on Iranian.com as well as any other sites that have ads, replacing their garish and infuriatingly annoying useless messages, with the glory and solace of blessed white-space.

I suggest you and anyone else who doesn't like ads, to get this ingenious plug-in. I guarantee you will have a far more enjoyable internet experience as a result.

But don't tell any of the advertisers about it. If they thought we weren't seeing any of their ads, they'd stop advertising and the whole Google empire would collapse. And then, apparently my Android phone will explode.

Sargord

 The ads are - WORD GENERATED. It's called 'Adsense' it's not the Isreal lobby.You get the ads because your obsessed with Isreal,you  keep typing in 'Zionism' Isreal' into the internet and getting the Isreal cookies.If you type in guitar over and over you will begin to see music ads.YOU and Mola,Bavafa,Q,Allah Ackbar,Arafat,the Pharoah and the rest of the Hezi's brought the ads' to this site with your ANTI-ISREAL neurousis.NOT JJ.Then you complain about it and blame him for your doing.Someday may you all find your rubber padded rooms.

Rosie, what do you want him

Rosie, what do you want him to say?

"Yes, I could have the ads withdrawn, but I don't want to because the money's good."

That's expecting way too much.

Want a good laugh? He just posted a blog entry where he states he can't understand how Professor Frye could accept a mansion from Ahmadinejad. This from a man who is accepting money from a group that wants to bomb Iran!!!

Unbelievable.

You know, it is possible to calculate exactly how much money JJ receives from this Israel lobby. It would be interesting to know how much it took for JJ to turn on his own people. Was it a couple a hundred bucks? Maybe even less.

PS SP, AND A DIFFERENT APPEAL TO ANY AND ALL

SP, Honestly, I have a few reasons to think it isn't really about money, at least not mostly. But that's an irrelevant issue to me too. I've already explained my concerns just now.

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OKAY, ANOTHER APPEAL.

If no one can explain whether or not these ads can be cntrolledWILL SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT THEY'RE NOT SURE AND WHY, BASED ON THE INFORMATION BELOW?

SP (cross-posted)

Yes, there is a need for my frustration. Because he should show up. He's a leader. He should do it either way, as a model of dignity for a community that is sometimes VERY undgnified. (Just look at Mouse right now and also how no one says boo). And also I care about him and I want him to do the right thing for HIMSELF. I support him NO MATTER WHAT but there have been times whenI've been very disappointed, and I don't want this to be one of them. As far as I'm concerend, if he shows up, whether he lied or not and whether he keeps the ads or not, that is dignity and that is enough.  

Rosie, of course he can have

Rosie, of course he can have ads withdrawn. I've seen it done many times.

The decision for JJ is whether to stand with the people of Iran, or pocket a bunch of cash provided by the people who want to attack the people of Iran. It's that simple.

Hey, apparently the bucks mean more to JJ.

Like I said, some people will sell out their own people for a few bucks. Some even their own mother. Sad but true. 

NO, Sargord,

right now the ONLY issue is whether or not Jahanshah could filter this type of ad, because if he CAN'T, there  is no discussion.

Well, almost none. Because there is compelling evideence that he could, so where is he to explain? He's been onsite several times since this evidence came up. 

Rosie, there's no need for

Rosie, there's no need for your frustration. JJ's position speaks for itself. Yes, he can manage content on Iranian.com, including ads. It is not uncommon for site owners to have ads withdrawn permanantly, that they find objectionable.

JJ simply doesn't find this objectionable.

For a few bucks, some will sell their own people down the drain. It isn't common among responsible folk, but there are always a few who are corruptible. Here at Iranian.com, it now appears we've come across one such example.