Baha’i Population in Iran

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Baha’i Population in Iran
by Ravian Bilani
25-Jun-2010
 

There has always been confusion in the Population of the Baha'i Faith followers in every country, since its ORIGIN. Regarding their numbers, "Millions" is the usual figure claimed by them.

Very recently Baha’is are also interested in giving Fake ‘percentage Baha’i population’ for every country. Thanks to the internet – their lie is getting exposed. The number of countries and localities varies with each web site. There is ‘no consensus’ regarding the actual number of countries, the actual number of localities, and the actual number of Baha’i. This trouble in the Baha’i population is not generated by the Baha’i Administration themselves but it is just the continuation of what Abdul Baha and Shoghi Effendi have done.

As a result Baha’is and Baha’i Administration have gone on defensive. They are quick to blame the Christians for this exaggeration and inconsistency. Where did the Christians get their data? It is only from the National spiritual Assembly of the various countries especially the NSA of USA. It is only the Baha'is and their officials who are to blame for the false-misleading reports on the wildly exaggerated Baha'i census. It is not the fault of the editors of Christian World Encyclopedia and Encyclopedia Britannica who relied on information given to them by the Baha’is.

One may ask, why didn't the NSAs , UHJ-ITC-ABM-CBC ever contact the Christian World Encyclopedia Editors, and request a correction? This is because the Baha’is wants to jack-up their numbers- for "public image".

Baha’i Population in Iran as claimed in the time of Abdul Baha

In case of the Baha’i population in Iran the Baha’is speak lies which puts to shame any lover of justice. Sometimes they say one third of the Iranian population is Baha’i and sometimes they propagate that half of the Iranian population is Baha’i. To my utter surprise during my visit to India in 2002, a Baha’i convert informed me that the whole of Iran has accepted the Baha’i Faith. I politely told him that the Baha’is have made a fool out of him .There are not more than 20,000 Baha’is.

Even the Zoroastrians, Jews and Christians of Iran are not being sparred from this onslaught of lie for which the Baha’is claim that all of them have accepted the Baha’i Faith.

Here are the Excerpts from the writing of Edward Brown,

  1. Ibrahim George Kheiralla says: "Abdul Karim, 1896, assured me that the believers in Baha were fifty millions. I wrote to Syria to ask. Sayid Mohammed, secretary of Abbas Effendi, said that the number was fifty-five million souls." Kheiralla afterwards denounces it as a gross deceit.
  2.  As to Persia, they place the proportion at one-third or one-half. Dreyfus writes, "Probably half the population of Persia is Baha’i." Incidentally the Baha’is claim that there are 3,000,000 (three million) Baha’is in Iran.
  3. The majority of Zoroastrians are recognized as Baha’is. On the contrary Professor Browne writes: "I had been informed that Zoroastrians were accepting Baha’ism. However after much discussion with the Zoroastrians of Yezd and Kerman for the space of three and a half months, I came to the conclusion that few, if any, had adopted the Baha’i creed." In India the proportion of Parsee-Baha’is is very small.
  4. As to Jews, Remey says: "In Hamadan there is a large Israelites following of Baha." A census made by a European Jew showed exactly 59 parents and with their children. 194 persons out of a population of 6,000 Jews. As to the United States, I give some particulars in the closing chapter. ." The inference is plain that no native of Israel had become Baha’i through sixty years of contact with Baha and his seventy followers.
  5. Abdul Baha gave the impression that many of the Christians of Persia are converts to Baha. Dr. J. H. Shedd wrote in 1894, "I have heard of no case of a Christian conversion to Baha’ism." Dr. G. W. Holmes wrote, 1903, "I do not know of a single Christian in Persia, who has been converted to Baha’ism. Some Baha’is who made a profession of Christianity turned back to Baha." Rev. J. W. Hawkes declares that in his observation none of the members of the Syrian (Nestorian) or Armenian churches in Persia have become Baha’is. I have known of one Armenian family in Resht and two men in Maraga, one of whom was a notorious, who kept up his opium using as before.

Population in Iran as claimed at the time of UHJ

From 3,00,000 to 4,61,351 followers. The percentage varies from 0.69 to 2%. This is unimaginable lie. The Encyclopedia Britannica and Encyclopedia of Christians have conveyed that the Baha’is have told them. The reporters are none other than Douglas Martin (former member of House of Justice) and Simeon Kohlman Rabbani (a Baha’i), who gave the information to World Christian Encyclopedia is a Baha’i.

There is one silver lining in the Baha’i census of Iran. It exposes the falsehood. Abdul Baha, leader of the faith (of lies), claimed fifty five millions at his time. UHJ is now claiming only 3,00,000 !!!

Presented below are certain eye-openers !!!

No.    Year    Population    %    Reference

1    1984    300,000        Ref: Hatcher, William S. & J. Douglas Martin. The Baha'i Faith: The Emerging Global Religion. San Francisco, CA: Harper & Row (1984); pg. 181.

2    1990    410,000        “Data transcribed by Simeon Kohlman Rabbani”
Ref: Barrett, David B. World Christian Encyclopedia (2001)

3    2001     463,151    (0.69%)    Data transcribed by Simeon Kohlman Rabbani.
Ref: Barrett, David B. World Christian Encyclopedia (2001)

Present Baha’i Population of Iran

The actual number of Baha’is in Iran is not more than 30,000. That should not make anyone who is a Baha'i very depressed. The Baha’is should know that exaggerating Baha’i census was the policy of Abdul Baha, Shoghi Effendi and now House of Justice.

What the Universal House of Justice should know, is that by making false claim of number of Baha’is or by parroting Anna’s presentation, no one will ever change his/her Faith. They can organize reflection meetings, deceptive children classes, launch fake Intensive program of Growth have useless cluster growth meetings - the Baha’i population will not grow. The Baha’i population will not grow by sending young Iranian Baha’i girls outside Iran for propagation of Baha’i Faith.

Baha’ism is now a failed attempt, a misfired plot to portray a man made religion to be counted amongst major religions of the world. Baha’ism is dying in its infacy. It will never see the light of the day.

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nadeem khan

Is this true

by nadeem khan on

Were there really fifty-five million souls in Iran at any given time in history as this guy claims "Sayid Mohammed, secretary of Abbas Effendi, said that the number was fifty-five million souls" . Is this statement true?


nadeem khan

this is really cheap

by nadeem khan on

"You bring shame to the prophet you follow by your shameless slandering of others."

When baha'is do wrong, slander, involve in crimes, does not follow the teachings of their prophet then even they BRING SHAME TO THEIR PROPHET. Cursing someone, even critics in such a cheap manner is really not expected from bahais.


Rea

faryarm

by Rea on

I often mention the Bahais' plight in my home country forums, so I'd like to get my facts straight. If it's not 300,000, then what's the figure, at least, approx ?

As for the blog, I'm not commenting, don't like feeding haters.


Waters

RB I dont know what devil you worship but

by Waters on

Lets say that the like of you even out number the rats, what good is that for!

You bring shame to the prophet you follow by your shameless slandering of others. 

 


faryarm

The Anti Bahai Negativity of Bitter Frustration...

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Some one should ask Mr Ravani, If the Bahai Faith is such a failure, should it have not failed and disappeared just like  the man made attempts of schism by Azal all the way down to the pathetic Egos who still try so desperately to create doubt , divide and show the Bahai Faith in bad light.

If The Bahai Faith is so "man made" why is it that two nineteenth century empires headed by the Sultan s of Turkey, The Qajar Shahs, not to mention the murderous campaigns of massacre of Babis and Bahai by their Mullahs has not been to this day been able to stop its influence and growth, not to mention the selfless love, devotion, respect and steadfastness  that Bahai have always exemplified, one that has finally won them the respect and admiration of Iranians, be they friend and foe.

Mr Ravani's blind bitterness  is exemplified by his refusal to accept the miracle of a new and persecuted  religion from Iran, which  has against all odds, not only survived the death of its founders,  but its progressive revolutionary ideas and principles have captured the hearts and won the admiration of people from all races and religions.

The question that should be asked from these videos, is how can a persecuted new religion from Iran, survive the exile and death of its founders and find a place in the hearts so many in others in other parts of the globe?

A new fire and inspiration that has shown to bring the Atheist, Hindu, The American Native,The  Buddhist, The Jew, The Christian , The Muslim and so many others to realize that no matter the name or the founder, there is indeed ONE Common Faith, that has been progressively revealed by God and the main reason why Religions "seem" to disagree is , the corruption and abuse of its power by power hungry men who like our present IR rulers in Iran are using it for personal gain and greed. 

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 In reference to the blog's refernces to numbers etc; It is a fact that the offices National Bahai Centre was burgled right before the revolution  when  all its records and documents were stolen; these records of names of the entire Bahai community were used to identify Bahais, Their homes, land and businesses, which subsequently led to Bahais losing their jobs, retirement, property, not to mention arrests and executions throughout Iran.

For the record, the figure of Iranian Bahai Population(300,000 to 350,000) was based on National Cencus before and after the Revolution;  by the Islamic Republic of Iran.

 


Sahameddin Ghiassi

Dear friend

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Humanity is important. Love and Unity read Molavi, Khayaam, and Hafez. The real religion is Love and Unity. Name is not important. All these fights are because we are not pure. If we made ourselves pure we can see that all religions and humanity is the same. We need education, peace, love and unity. Respect and Just. To fight with other religions is what the business people want to sell their weapons. The name is not important, Bahai, Moslem or... Christian; if they are not nice and human, there is no difference between them.  

Jus to fight for a name does not guide us to go forward. We need to respect each other and love each other regardless to religions, nationalities and races.  Bad people are bad in any religions. And good people are also good in any religions. Listen to Sadi word. That the humanity is the only way and it is just one point or goal. We should not bother each other with the religions and names. I heard that only 30 thousand Bahai or Babi are killed in Iran. And recently 200 of them are hanged in Iran. How can the people kill each other because of a name? The Bahai also could be as bad as the Moslems. The number is not important.


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