Baha’i Child Rape Court Case - Implications for Iran

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Baha’i Child Rape Court Case - Implications for Iran
by MaryamJoon
11-Sep-2012
 

You only have to know three names to understand this story: (1) Remey, (2) Abdu'l-Bahá, and (3) Jensen.  The U.S. court’s opinion rejecting the appeal of the Baha’i leader’s rape conviction is below.  And as you will see Remey sought to design a Baha’i building in Iran. 

Charles Remey:

Charles Remey was a prominent American Bahá'í, with a close relationship with one of the central Baha’i holy figures, Abdu'l-Bahá, and was one of the people that organized his family’s trips to the U.S. and looked after them. Remey was also an architect within the Bahá'í leadership. He designed the Australian and Ugandan Bahá'í House of Worship which still stand today and are the “mother temples” for Africa. Upon the request of Shoghi Effendi, Abdul Baha’s son, Remey made designs for a Bahá'í House of Worship in Tehran. Remey was also a member of what is called ‘Nine Hands of the Cause’ (the Baha’I leadership) elected as the authority until the election of what is called Israel’s ‘Universal House of Justice’ in 1963.

Remey was well-liked by`Abdu'l-Bahá and worked with him:

Abdu'l-Bahá praised Remey’s efforts and character in a a writing (called a “Tablet”) to Corrine True, published in the Bahá'í newsletter “Star of the West” in August 1920.

What follows is one of the many examples of `Abdu'l-Bahá’s affection for Remey:

"Praise be unto God, that the model [of the structure] made by Mr. Bourgeois was approved by his honor, Mr. Remey, and selected by the Convention. His honor, Mr. Remey is, verily, of perfect sincerity. He is like unto transparent water, filtered; lucid and without any impurity. He worked earnestly for several years, but he did not have any personal motive. He has not attachment to anything except to the Cause of God. This is the spirit of the firm and this is the characteristic of the sincere." (Star of the West. Volume 11, No. 9, p. 139)

 Abdu'l-Bahá in 1921 stated the following about Remey:

"I have adopted you as my son. You have to appreciate this favor very much indeed. One should see that you are living according to the requirements of this sonship. You should be aware of your responsibilities. My prayers will help you. I always pray for you."    (`Abdu'l-Bahá to Remey, 1921: Final Visit in Tiberias, Folio 2, "A Pilgrimage to the Holy Land: Reminisces of the Master, 1921", pp.127-129)

Remey & Jensen:

Remey’s close associate was a man by the name of Dr. Leland Jensen, (“Local Bahá'í Leader dead at 81”. August 8, 1996. Missoulian p. B2).   Remey and Jensen implemented a scheme to use children, sexually, to lure people to the Baha’i movement.  During the three Iranian eras (Qajar, Pahlavi, and IRI) there were similar complaints, and there were similar complaints during the 1940s and 1950s by India’s and Pakistan’s Parsi (Zoroastrian) Community.  

 

The court’s affirmation of the Baha’i leaders child rape conviction:  

 

 

SEPTEMBER 24, 1969.

STATE OF MONTANA, PLAINTIFF-RESPONDENT,

v.

DR. LELAND JENSEN, DEFENDANT-APPELLANT PETITIONER.

Original Proceeding for Post-conviction Relief made by Inmate of the Montana State Prison

PER CURIAM OPINION

Defendant in this cause has filed a petition for post-conviction relief. Defendant had appealed his conviction to this Court and it was affirmed. See State v. Jensen, 153 Mont. 233, 455 P.2d 631.

In his petition defendant asserts that his sentence and the proceedings whereby it was procured violated the due process and equal protection clauses of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution, in that:

1. Section 94-4106, R.C.M. 1947, as applied to this case and the sentence imposed constituted cruel and unusual punishment;

2. Said section 94-4106, R.C.M. 1947, as applied to his case is vague and without standards;

 

3. The State called for production of evidence by the defendant before he testified; and

4. The State forbid defendant and his counsel from interviewing witnesses called by the State.

Section 94-4106, R.C.M. 1947, reads: "Any person over the age of eighteen (18) years, who shall wilfully and lewdly commit any lewd and lascivious act, other than the acts constituting other crimes provided in section 94-4101 to 94-4108, upon or with the body or any part or member thereof, of a child under the age of sixteen (16) years, with the intent of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the lust or passions or sexual desires of such person, or of such child, shall be guilty of a felony, and shall be imprisoned in the state prison not exceeding twenty-five (25) years."

This statute was originally enacted as Sec. 1, Ch. 59, Laws of 1913, and remains substantially the same today except that the penalty was increased by Sec. 1, Ch. 57, Laws of 1959. The constitutionality of this statute was upheld in State v. Kocher, 112 Mont. 511, 119 P.2d 35. There is nothing cruel or unusual about a sentence confining one to the state prison for the commission of a felony.

The second contention that the statute is vague and without standards is without merit. As stated by this Court in the Kocher case, supra, the elements of the crime as set forth in the statute are: first, the offender must be over the age of 18 years; second, a lewd or lascivious act must have been committed upon or with the body or any part or member thereof, of a child under 16 years of age; and third, the act must have been committed with the intent of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the lust or passions or sexual desires of the accused or the child. There is nothing vague about this language and the standards are specifically set forth.

As to the request by the State for the production of evidence by defendant before he testified, it is true as disclosed by the quote from the record that the prosecution stated: "We will call upon the doctor to produce that card." No objection was made to this request, in fact counsel for the defendant stated: "We have the case history here and we will be glad to give it to you." However, even if we were to concede, arguendo, that the State should not have made any such request, what prejudice resulted? None. Defendant willingly furnished what was requested without any objection whatever.

The final assertion, that the State forbid the defense from interviewing witnesses. In support of this charge defendant submits excerpts from the trial transcript of cautionary remarks made by the trial judge to witnesses, advising them not to talk with anyone about the case on trial and if they desired advice as to the proper thing to do in any such situation they should consult the county attorney. Thus it was the statements of the trial judge rather than any remarks made by the prosecution that are cited in support of the contention. These matters were considered by this Court upon the appeal as indicated by the following paragraph from our opinion:

"During the course of the trial the court on several occasions gave instructions to the witnesses and made other comments, some of which may have implied to the jury that the court felt the witnesses were telling the truth. We find no merit in appellant's argument on this issue. At no time did his counsel object to these comments. The leading case in Montana on comments by the court is State v. Dixson, 80 Mont. 181260 P. 138 (1927). In that case objection to the comment was made immediately and we see no reason why that should not have been done here. The general rule is that the lower court cannot be put in error with an issue raised for the first time on appeal. State v. Campbell, 146 Mont. 251, 405 P.2d 978 [22 A.L.R.3d 824] (1965)."

There being no merit to any of the contentions made by the defendant his petition for post-conviction relief is denied.

 

 

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I'm not in the habit of engaging hate mongers, but..

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Just as a final response, based on what I read from the links I posted below (which you conveniently disregarded), Remey himself had nothing to do with the child abuse case. It was Jensen that was convicted of the lewd acts.

Furthermore, the statement of Abdul Baha was made decades before Remey's rejection from the Bahai faith and the events from you oh so "objective" blog. Also, as already stated, Bahais later rejected Remey:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason_Remey

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But of course, you are not interested in articles which don't support your highly selective and edited version of events. And I note that you avoid the questions regarding the motives behind this (and your zillion other hate filled) blogs.


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The US Judge had no "hidden agenda" ...

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and ... man irooni hastam ... that's my agenda.  So when someone wants to bring certain unchecked behaviors into my country, I will share facts that appear in court cases.  There are in fact many more court cases. 


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Abdul Baha describing Remey as "pure" when linked to child abuse

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Try to dispute it all you want, those are facts: 

 ABDUL BAHA: His honor, Mr. Remey is, verily, of perfect sincerity. He is like unto transparent water, filtered; lucid and without any impurity. He worked earnestly for several years, but he did not have any personal motive. He has not attachment to anything except to the Cause of God. This is the spirit of the firm and this is the characteristic of the sincere." (Star of the West. Volume 11, No. 9, p. 139)  


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Challenging hidden agendas is not an attempt to silence

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You can say what you like, but by the same token you should expect people to challenge your views.

No one is suggesting that court cases are fabrications (if anyone has, point them out). What IS hateful is to scour the net to come up with scraps of historical data about individuals in an attempt to cast aspersions on the entirety of a faith.

Bahais of Iran are under systematic and vicious persecution inside their own country. This does not matter a jot to you, but an individual, expelled by the Bahais, committing a lewd act over 40 years ago does. If this deliberately selective expression of views is not a sign of hate mongering, then what is it?

So kindly stop playing the victim here.


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Completely accurate

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... but most of the comments that show an attempt to silence are.


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Dear Mr. Gilani and Reality-Bites

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Thank you so much for your courage by standing up to bullies who propagate hateful fabrications for the sole purpose of defaming a religious minority. I have been a victim of hate crimes as a young boy in Iran because of my religion and am still haunted by those senseless humiliations.

The familiar methodology used by 'MaryamJoon' and 'Frashogar' are the exact methods used to by the Islamist regime to stir the emotions among the crowd and generate mob attacks against us. For those compatriots who care to seek the truth for themselves, the means are readily available at your disposal.

All Baha'is love Iran and consider it holy. However, instead of replying to each one of these baseless and inflammatory remarks, I choose to say: May God bless our beautiful land, Iran, and all her peace-loving sons and daughters.

 


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Bahais "seek independent investigation of the truth" right?

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What did Abdul Baha say about Remey?  Let's see:

 ABDUL BAHA: His honor, Mr. Remey is, verily, of perfect sincerity. He is like unto transparent water, filtered; lucid and without any impurity. He worked earnestly for several years, but he did not have any personal motive. He has not attachment to anything except to the Cause of God. This is the spirit of the firm and this is the characteristic of the sincere." (Star of the West. Volume 11, No. 9, p. 139) 


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Wikipedia doesn't count for diddly - nice try to conceal facts

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Remey was a Bahai his whole life and a confidant and aid to Abdul Baha; You claim all religions are united, right?  

Remey was the one of the first leaders of the Council that preceded the Universal House of Justice in Israel. 

Remey was President of the International Bahai Council.

Remey was an advisor to Shoghi Effendi (Abdul Baha's son also).

This guy was a main insider.  

What the Bahais have written on their own website or Wikipedia is irrelevant - what matters is what was reported in the PRESS and in Abdul Baha's own letters then, and the court case.   

 


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This Must Be Stopped

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Dear Administrator,
This is an urgent plea to you to stop the systematic defamation of the Baha'i Faith and its believers by shady characters like 'Frashogar' and 'MaryamJoon'.Their technique is quite alarming as it eerily resembles the propaganda used by the Islamic Republic of Iran to stir the public against patriotic Baha'i Iranians.
I am not a Baha’i, but I can imagine it is offensive to my Baha’i compatriots to see such nonsensical remarks displayed in Iranian.com.
Thanks in advance for your consideration.


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I just looked up this case online

by Reality-Bites on

Apparently this Remy character ended up being rejected by the Bahai faith and the convicted Jensen, also expelled by the Bahais, was not much of a leader among the Bahais, as claimed by "Maryamjoon".

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason_Remey

//bahai-library.com/?file=uhj_mason_remey_followers.html

More to the point though, every group, religion, political party, whatever, has some dubious characters. Bahais are no exception. So what exactly is the point of this blog? That ALL Bahais are child molesters, because an individual was convicted of lewd behaviour half a century ago? That Bahais condone/approve of child molestation? Is this not clutching at straws in a desperate attempt to portray a whole group of people as perverts because of a personal vendetta? If it is, then it is beneath contempt.


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The Bahai Leader was convicted in the US ...

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... Iranians have no right to protect children without these weird side-adventures that talk about 'Mullahs' ... There were no 'Mullahs' involved in the Bahai leader's rape conviction, but what is frightening is that he wanted to establish a 'house of worship in Iran.' 

No thanks. 


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The Islamists are good at:

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2) Harassing Afghans, the most hardworking immigrants in Iran

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6) Threatening prosperous nations with dirty mischief and chaos

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1st Amendment thanks for being true to your name ...

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It's a real court case, with real citations to articles, and scholarly sources showing who these people were.  If Iranian.com's space limitations were longer - I would be able to show more. 

Obviously, the idea of a couple of creeps harming children through sexual abuse -- and wanting to build a house of worship in Tehran AND their close friendship and working relationship with Abdul Baha and his family is something people ought to have a fair chance to read and make their own minds up about.  Don't practitioners of the Bahai school say their faith "demands independent investigation of the truth"?    

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Why are you blaming me for a court decision?

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I thought the "Bahai faith encourages people to independently seek truth."

So if real facts -- that you can't blame on 'Mullahs' -- present themselves, this is your answer?

Fine ... but it doesn't change the judicial decision. 


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Oh, dear Nuri

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User name blocked, fine Frashogar. But to take people for a ride pretending to be a woman, aj, aj. 

Greets downunder, nevertheless. 


Reality-Bites

The inability to handle issues that should be of concern

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... is to deliberately ignore the reality that the Bahais, alongside many other innocent Iranians, have been the victims of vicious and sustained persecution by the Islamic Republic and instead latch on to any negative scrap of data/hearsay/claim, no matter how old, to desperately portray the Bahais as some kind of evil secret society bent on world domination and subjugating human kind.

One would've thought with all their supposed evil connections, that they have been accused of having over the decades, e.g. with the Brits, the Israelis, the Freemasons and heaven knows how many more, the Bahais would've been protected from the tyranny they have been subjected to in Iran. But no, it appears this all powerful "evil secret society" can't even protect itself or receive help from its Zionist/Imperialist backers.


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Religion is just another business. It is all about money and power. 

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Effendi's & Remey's apprentice Jensen was a child rapist

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... it's a court case. 

 


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My feeling: Bahais & Israelis can't handle publication of 1 case

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... from a court's judicial calendar.  It shows you something. 

Koodoom yeki az shoma ha zaboon e ma ro balad ast?  


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We know there on occasion are drug-addict'd prostitutes in Iran

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... but there are literally thousands in every American major city.  And Tel Aviv has the highest per capita number of sex slaves (see video link below).  

That documentary, incidentally, of the 2 drugged out prostitutes was paid for by Israel (they are real hookers but they are 2 drug addicts).  How many are in Las Vegas like that ?  Thousands. How many in Tel Aviv?  Thousands.

And the video is about child rape by a Bahai leader.  


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RB

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He's in drag this time ....  


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ps. prostitution is universal

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But now that you've mentioned it.

Prostitution behind the veil, Iran. 

I have a lot of links, have been working hard on my IRI file, just ask. ;o)


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The arch anti-Bahai hate monger is back on IC

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"Nima Hazini" aka "Nuri Azal" aka "Free thought" aka "Tabarzin" aka countless username user on IC is back now under the "Maryamjoon" moniker peddling his usual hate filled bile against one of the most persecuted groups of people in Iran.

This individual's only reason for existence seems to be to spread hatred against the Bahais, as if Bahais, as a group, go round committing genocide, eating babies, beheading people, carrying out suicide bombings etc, when it's all because he has a long standing personal grievance against them.

He has been banned numerous times from posting on IC, but because he craves attention and validation for his bigotry, he keeps coming back pretending to be someone else to continue spreading his twisted and poisonius vitriol.


Rea

Never flagged your comment, dear Maryam

by Rea on

In fact, was rather annoyed with whoever had done it. For I read Times of Israel just as I read PressTV (like to know what extremists on both sides think). I also read BBC, Figaro, Corriere della Sera. And of course, Croatian papers. 

Judicial case, you say. When are we going to see judicial cases against IRI mullahs for all the crimes committed against women ? 

In fact, I think you work for Mossad, lol. No other person on IC mentions Israel as much as you do.


MaryamJoon

Rea - Extremist Jewish-Settler Propaganda

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The last time I answered you, you flagged my comment, which was nothing more than a link to Haaretz article.  

I, nor any Iranian I have ever met, has met an Iranian with 'a ten year old bride.'  However, there are thousands of Russian women trapped in apartments with bars on the windows, as admitted by Israeli police on video (LINK 1Documentary LINK 2), that are being used as prostitutes. Divide the Jewish population of Israel (5 million) by the number of prostitutes there (including child prostitutes) - then compare that to Iran. The American Jewish community, particularly the Casino owners in Las Vegas (LINK 3), also have a long history of seriously exploiting women.  What I posted about the Bahai leader is from a judicial case.  

Rhetoric about Iran's 10 year old brides is normally heard form extremist Israelis.