When the grotesque becomes vile

Fred
by Fred
20-Nov-2010
 

There are those Iranians who live and prosper in the sane world, and yet defend the very system which denies their compatriots the same opportunities back in Iran.

This grotesque behavior becomes vile when the one defending IRR, the Islamist Rapist Republic, is a woman.

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marhoum Kharmagas

Hazrate "Pahlevan"!

by marhoum Kharmagas on

Yes, Iran was much better off under the Shah, however that does not mean that Shahis as a political force are good. Many of them have been cooperating with AIPAC and neocons so that they bring them to power through war. Many of these fossilized shahis betrayed Shah (As Zahedi said very explicitly) when Shah was alive and are doing the same now by explicitly advocating war against Iran (e.g., Simorgh5555). Are you also a fossilized Shahi jenaabe zerteki (*)?

(*)zerteki in Esfahani means "Pahlevan"


Souri

Ms Rusta

by Souri on

Thanks for the explanation, however I believe the site staff has to address this incident. Otherwise this would be a disrespect to the readership.

As a user of this site, I need to be able to trust the site and it's credibility.


vildemose

FR: yes, I remember that

by vildemose on

FR: yes, I remember that Mr. Q used to claim his/her "real" identity---not being anonymous, as a trump card to discredit his/her deteractores back in the days when registration was still not in effect.

 


Farah Rusta

Dear friends

by Farah Rusta on

Sorry to see that my little quip with another of "our friends" has caused some controversy. For the record, I can't recall to have flagged any comment in my relatively short life on Iranian.com. But I respect other commenters right to flag (and delete) my comments should they find it disagreeable and at the same time I do not question or justify the rationale behind the moderator's decision. One of the exciting things about Iranian.com is that it is always full of surprises. "Nothing is Predicatble" would sum up the site's ethos better than its current motto! 

Thank you Souri Khanom for raising the issue. You are right in suggesting that I only refered to "our friend" by his publicly (at least on this site) prefered name (same way as Mona has done). So I can't imagine to have crossed any lines there.  Ironically "our friend" is the only one who is interested in revealing (or so he thinks) other people's alleged identity. So Shazde jan I may be guilty of many things but not this one.

Dear G Rahmanian, I don't wish to provoke our dear moderator as he or she should know his or her job better but thanks for the suggestion.  

FR


G. Rahmanian

Photoshopped!

by G. Rahmanian on

من در اينجا بجان بي ارزش "اس اس" قسم ميخورم كه اين عكسهاتقلبي است


Shazde Asdola Mirza

Souri

by Shazde Asdola Mirza on

Your are posing good questions, but here seems to be a new moderator, who may not be familiar with those points.


Pahlevan

Magasak

by Pahlevan on

"granted some greens (e.g, Makhmalbaaf) are in that
business and in a short time they were able to compete with Shahis and "JMis", in general the greens don't have as many salesmen as Shahis do (percentage wise)... Shahis are the best in that business (well....., they can't beat Fred)

Aren't your bunch (anti-Iran Islamists) the ones that have destroyed this nation's culture & history and have auctioned its people, interests, resources and land to anyone who would keep your ass in power?

your beloved regime, under the incompetent leadership of Khatami, Ahmadinejad and of course Ali geda, lost 40% of Caspian sea. Your bunch have been selling Iran's raw resources under-priced and buying other nations crap over-priced for over 31 years! ... for gods sake your regime pays other nations billions of dollars for weapons it never receives ... I don't recall such things happening under the Pahlavis ("shahis") who with all their shortcomings were hundreds of times better than your bunch. And I certainly don't know how patriotic Jebhe-Melis or Fred can be "selling" Iran's interests !!!


Souri

But Shazdeh

by Souri on

agree with you in general, but

Q has openly identified himself as "Qumars Blourchian, photographer" in his account information....and also many times he has mentioned his  name here in the site.

I don't think Farah's comment could be considered as a personal attack in this case.
And what about the two other comments of yesterday?


Sargord Pirouz

Those two pics are

by Sargord Pirouz on

Those two pics are photoshopped (pretty obvious at 300% zoom):

//kamangir.net/2007/05/21/iranian-bloggers-ra...


Shazde Asdola Mirza

Revealing people's identity

by Shazde Asdola Mirza on

In her comment, F. R. tried to reveal another user's identity. Sadly, it's happening more often, as people launch this new type of direct personal attack.

This sort of senseless and brutal personal attack is the real instance of:

"When the Grotesque Becomes Vile"


Pahlevan

Thank You Fred

by Pahlevan on

For exposing Islamist liars like the woman in the video. If Iranian women walked in the streets of Iran dressing like her, they would go to jail and receive lashes ... unless, of course, if they are connected to the most corrupted regime in the world, The Islamist Rapist Republic.

Besides, the bi hejab woman in the video is not even Iranian, I mean her accent is certainly not Iranian ... most likely she is a paid agent of IRI who is originally from Syria or Lebanon ... similar to the active Arab, pretending-to-be-Iranian, user Tahgord Dirouz, who can't speak/understand Persian if his life depended on it.


G. Rahmanian

FR

by G. Rahmanian on

Why don't you repost it and see!


Souri

Unfortunately....

by Souri on

One of those other comments of yesterday which have been flagged and deleted now, was also addressed to Q! I really don't understand it??

Q: Sorry. You know well that I respect you and have nothing against you. This is nothing personal. Believe me, I just want to understand what's going on here and who is behind this abnormal activities ?!!! I know that usually you don't flag people's comments.


vildemose

Souri jan: WOw, I noticed

by vildemose on

Souri jan: WOw, I noticed that too. FR's comment to Mona regarding Q was not at al,l censorship material, nothing offensive or profane.

Strange, indeed.


Souri

Strange!!

by Souri on

There are a few comments here which have been disappeared again !!!

The last one was from Farah Rusta about Q (to Mona) and also there were two other posts which have been flagged yesterday ( I had noticed they were flagged yesterday) and now they are deleted!

And none of them were offensive.

And I'm sure this doesn't come from JJ. He is more tolerant than this.

Who did delete those posts?

Ajab gereftari shodim ha....!

Baba, pas how about democracy?!!


marhoum Kharmagas

Shahis are the best salesmen! (to Prophet)

by marhoum Kharmagas on

VPK says: "this one sells his nation."

Prophet jaan, granted some greens (e.g, Makhmalbaaf) are in that business and in a short time they were able to compete with Shahis and "JMis", in general the greens don't have as many salesmen as Shahis do (percentage wise)... Shahis are the best in that business (well....., they can't beat Fred)


Simorgh5555

VPK

by Simorgh5555 on

words of wisdom my friend. I suppose I have to be grateful to people like Q so that I can vent my hatred of the IR out of them. they just give me a perfect excuse with the sheer nonsense they talk about.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Simorgh Jan

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Please do not get worked up at Q; it is his job you know. There are some who sell cars; others sell their labor; or crops they raise; this one sells his nation.

To each their own; may they be paid their desrved rewards. It will happen.


Simorgh5555

Q

by Simorgh5555 on

Get your facts right: I provided evidence of 3 known murders which deliberately targeted Iranians who convertd to Christianity and openly practised their religion. Your semantic spin on the word 'tragic' to convey Haik Hovespian as some sort of car accident is pathetic. He was murdered. The comparison between Hacoupian's murder and miscarriages of justice in the USA is absurd to say the least. Where in the penal code of any Israeli, European or American penal code is there a death sentence for apostasy like the one in Iran. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch has docuemnted evidence of Christians routinely harassed by Iranians laws sucas the latest arrest and trial of Maryam Rostampour and Marzieh Amirizadeh Esmaeilabad. Again, using your words, I won't denounce you for being so stupid as to know what is happening in Iran becuase you after Sargord you are the official mouthpiece of the Islamic Republic on this site. If the constitution of the USA were to recognise Chritsianity as the state religion of the USA and, further, individual states were allowed to ban Islamic conversions and routinely arrest them for charges of state terror then you would be throffing from your mouth in anger. Apart from a few tourist locations almost all Churches and Atashkadehs are off limit to Muslims and you require a permit to enter these places of worhsip. Again, you probably know all of this and deep down you are grateful you are not living in the hell hole known as the Islamic Republic. After all that, you even dare to question my integrity? I don't't know how you sleep at night. You are a liar, Q, and worse than that an free willing agent of a terrorist Islmaic system. Shame on you.


Q

Ms. Mona,

by Q on

Some may argue Bahaism is more complete Islam, then regular Islam, since it actually accepts all basic tenets of Islam including its holy book and the prophet. Be that as it may, it is literally considered heretical Islam by those who don't like it. That's the perspective in which my point was made.

Simorgh, 

Don't make me laugh. You have found a grand total of one tragic case from 20 years ago and you blow your gasket, calling me a "liar" in all caps and boldfaced? I think an elementary lesson in basic logic is in order, you can thank me later.

1. The point VPK made about "non muslims getting killed" is the lie here. Even if we completely accept the one-sided anti-iran description of what happened in that case, it doesn't not make it a rule. What you have shown (one case every 20 years) is an exception, not the rule.

2. Most logical people understand that travesty's of justice happen in every legal system. Indefensible tragic cases like that pastor may happen more often in other places. If you truely have "an ounce of integrity", you would have to equally agree:

  • US kills black people without fair trials
  • US kills mentally handicapped people
  • Prisoners are raped in US jails, so it is the "rapist republic"
  • In US murderers go free.

 

I admit, it is not entirely an apt comparison, because far far more people die in the US on these tragic cases than in Iran for being "Christian". Many times in the US justice system, judge and jury fail and the wrong person is executed or jailed. It's a fact that it happens routinely, but it does not make it a rule. It's not logical to say "US kills black people", the same way self-hating Iranians would say "Iran kills Christians". In the case of Israel, however, the islamophobic cheerleaders at FredCo should know that things like "Israel kills civilians", and "Israel bulldozes homes" are so common that they could never be considered an exception (unlike the Iran case), therefore such claims are pure propaganda.

3. Clearly you have no integrity at all, because you are holding Iran to a different standard (1 case = rule), and therefore you are the liar. I can't say I'm surprised. Rabid islamophobes and bigots basically live on this principle. If one person commits a crime, their entire "kind" is guilty. It's the basic inability to consider nuance and reason when it coms to people you hate. For examples see Nazi antisemetism, and contemporary islamophobia. I do not expect you to write a written apology, because I know better, but at least you can say you had the opportunity to learn something today.

Kharmagas,

....in fact I think what Mammad is trying to sell is the least $H!++y thing!

Completely agreed. If we are going to call all points of view "$H!++", then it maks perfect sense to rank them from most stinky to least. Those routinely "producing" stinkier odor are not allowed to bitch about those with milder ones, unless of course they want to be considered clowns.


Dirty Angel

Farah Rusta, don't you understand?

by Dirty Angel on

U.S.A, Brazil, Cuba, Mexico, Ecuador, Paraguay, Peru, Argentina, Israel, India and the Federal Republic of Germany are all theocracies, but the Islamic Republic of Iran is a Zionist conspiracy of Political Islam!

 

PFFFT! Yad begirin, akhe! 

 

;)

" Thank god for botox; my facial expressions are wearing rather thin...."


SamSamIIII

Mona

by SamSamIIII on

 

Dear, stand corrected as it was the latter, Bab, as one of the most prominent class of Seyyeds who made a fundamental change in Iranian social fabric. Cheers!!! 

 

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia


Mona 19

...

by Mona 19 on

Mr. Bolourchian

You said:" IRI has more problems with Sunni, Bahai and Sufi Muslims than non muslims."

Baha'i faith is not a sect of Islam. It's entirely independent, with beliefs, principles and laws of its own.

Mr. Samsam

Who is Seyed Bahaollah? Do you mean Baha'u'llah,the founder of the Baha'i faith? He wasn't a seyed. His given name was Mirza Husayn Ali Nuri. He was son of  Mirza Buzurg Nuri who was a minister in the court of Fath Ali Shah Qajar. The Bab was a seyed. His name was Seyed Ali Muhammad who was a young merchant from the city of Shiraz.

 

Fred,I apologize in advance. I don't mean to change the subject of your blog.

Most regards,Mona 

 

 

 

 

 


vildemose

DK, brilliant. Smile!

by vildemose on

DK, brilliant.

Smile! you're on candid camera??

 

//kamangir.net/2007/05/21/iranian-bloggers-raid-against-police-brutality/


Farah Rusta

When a "modest" portion of hair costs you immodestly

by Farah Rusta on


Fred

Re: Darius's pic

by Fred on


Rea

DK

by Rea on

Your pictures speak more than anything the lady in the video has got to say in defending IRI's treatment of women.


G. Rahmanian

VPK:

by G. Rahmanian on

There's a connoisseur of a kind on the blog!


G. Rahmanian

DA:

by G. Rahmanian on

Let's hope this sadness won't last much longer. And since you were brought up as a man you must be strong!!


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Marhoum Kharmagas

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

I agree that there are plenty of people peddeling s**** around here.  I cannot pick on all of them on the same post. It just happened that this was Mammad Aghas turn. Don't worry, I will get to the rest in time :-)