Iranian food without rice is not Iranian!

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Iranian food without rice is not Iranian!
by Anonymouse
23-Sep-2010
 

After a recent annual checkup I was once again borderline on the health charts for things such as Cholestrol, blood pressure, sugar and some other stuff like white and red blood cells which I don't pay attention to much because I don't know what the heck they are!  Not that I know more about Cholestrol but at least it is more famous.  One of these years I'm going to break the barriers and be screwed!

I recall in the past few visits over the years my Doctor (who is Egyptian so he knows about the polo issue :-) kept telling me that I could reduce my Nitroglycerine by eating less rice and bread.  Now as an Iranian we're given chai in our milk bottles and as soon as we develop teeth we're fed Shomali rice followed by khoresht.  So when the Doc advises less rice obviously I ignore it.  I mean Chinese eat the most rice, more so than Iranians or even the entire Middle East combined, and they're pretty healthy.  They seem fit most of the time and you'll be hard pressed to find an obese Chinese!

But sooner or later I have to face the reality and reduce the polo and bread intake.  Bread is another issue, the dishes that don't have rice like Kotlet, Oloviyeh, KooKoo or Kashk-e bademjan, still need bread like Barbari bread to wash them down!  Doc says less fried food too, so there goes Kotlet and Koo Koo!  So I have to be realistic that as an Iranian I can't not eat polo.  I can only reduce it for the sake of lower Nitroglycerine.  Now the question is how to reduce it.

I was reading Organic jaan's blog on excercising (which I do seasonably and leisurely :-) -- my Doc has stressed so much and every year puts notes in my file that I don't do it regularly to make me feel bad -- and noticed Nazy jaan's comment that asked about ways to have more healthy Iranian food.  So I thought to write this blog and share my view and seek alternatives.

I think Iranian food is really healthy to begin with and unless you soak it in fat and grease and Crisco it is made of healthy ingredients and can be cooked very healthy.  The issue is not being healthy the issue is not eating polo and bread and reducing them.

So the way I'm solving the problem for myself is to eat other ethnic food like Mexican, Chinese or Italian.  Mix and match chicken with vegetables or grilled chicken and green salads and/or wheat pasta hot or cold and tomato sauces.  These combinations are endless and you can mix beets with seaweed and olives with walnuts and roots and leaves and so on and so forth. 

Perhaps polo is good for 2 or 3 (or 3.5 :-) times a week?  We can't give it up, we just have to reduce it.  I like brown rice but the damn thing takes forever to cook unless you can eat hard rice which can crack your teeth!  Are there even any brown basmati rice?  I've not seen one so far.  And is wheat bread, like wheat barbari bread that I can find, kosher and all-you-can-eat-ok?  I actually like wheat bread, didn't like it before, but like it now and can totally substitute it with white bread but that seems to be only minor and the much lesser of the 2 "evils"!

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Anonymouse

I'll pick Baba Karam or Aash Yogas! Having aash w/ Yoga = good!

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Everything is sacred


vildemose

There are different kinds

by vildemose on

There are different kinds of pilates. You don't need to use rubber band.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynqLObQpCMI

How about boxing?

//www.boxinggyms.com/

How about playing soccer? Join a soccer leagure in yoru area.

Bikram Yoga? Great for loosing weight.

Ashtanga Yoga? For endurance and building stamina.


MM

Mehrdad - did you compose the poem, or who?

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good one.  I saved it.


Anonymouse

Vildemose I can't handle the big rubber band! No thank you!

by Anonymouse on

To do Pilate you need to put your legs into this big rubber band like this and kick it!  Now I know some women won't do certain excercise routines because of it being un-lady-like! Now Pilate is definately un-manly!  We need suggestion for manly excersies!  Any suggestions for that?!

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Anonymouse

باوفا جان به‌! به‌! چه کمالاتی!

Anonymouse


نمیدونستیم بحر طویل هم میگی‌!  بابا ‌ای والله!

قضیه آقای (Kiri Moto) شده!

در ضمن من فکر کنم من از شما یک کم بزرگ تر باشم. وقتی‌ جنگ شروع شد، شما چند سالت بود؟

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vildemose

The best exercise is Pilate

by vildemose on

The best exercise is Pilate for over 40+.

//pilates.about.com/od/whatispilates/a/WhatIsPilates.htm

Check out Pilate class in your area. My pilate instructor is 75 years old but has a better body than many 20 something and looks much younger than her age without Botox and facelift. Of course, nutrition is equally importnat.

 


Bavafa

Anonymouse jaan, be sene man khosh amadi

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سنّ که رسید به پنجاه       فشار میاد به چند جاه

اول به چشم و چارت       دوم به کون پارت

سوم به دست و پایت        چهارم به کیر و خایت

دکتر میگه که پیری              کس بکنی‌ مییمیری

نمک نخور، مریضی           ورم داری به پیزی

شکر بارت حرومه        کارت دیگه تمومه

لق شده اون زبونت      کاک افتاده تو جونت

پات دیگه جون نداره        تنو بدنت میخاره

دندون نداری هیچی‌           چشات شده نوخوچی

دست و پاهات میلرزه      پیچ و مهرهات هرزه

فشار خونت بالاست       اینهم بارات یک بلاست

کلسترل هم که داری       دله شودی و یک واری

خون میدی و خون میگیری   ایدز هم میخی‌ بگیری؟

آرترز دست و پایت          حالی‌ نذاشته برایت

خلق گهی که داری             اولاد بشد فراری

شربت و قرص خوردنت     بد دهنی با زنت

کچ شده اون گردنت         نکنه به زور کردنت؟

امان ز دارد کمر              شب‌ها میخوابی دمر

خوابهای بد میبینی‌              گاهی تو جات میرینی

فغان ز رنج و تنگی             ولو و تلو می‌لنگی

وقتیکه راه میفتی               کچ میشی‌ هی‌ میفتی

اعصاب تو خرابه                 پشتت بروی آبه

دم بدم هم میشاشی         رو تخمت هم میپاشی

با سرفه‌های موذی                هی‌ ذرت و ذرت میگوزی

 

شعرم اگر چه کیریست           اینهم ز درد پیریست

   

Mehrdad


Anonymouse

Roghan Kermanshahi stories

by Anonymouse on

You know I always thought roghan Kermanshahi was used for general cooking too and many years ago when I went back home that was one of the first things that I asked that a meal be cooked with it so I can taste it because I didn't remember it from before.

As it turned out, at least for me, there was no roghan Kermanshahi to be found and the only thing they could do was to find some shirini roghani which seemed like noon berenji that was "breaded".  Like a big chocolate chip cookie but berenji that would become poodr if you broke it in half.  Other than that I don't recall tasting it but have heard many afsaneh's about it!

As for other nationalities like Indians or Chinese that use rice "more" than us, I mentioned it in the blog itself that you'd be hard pressed to find a Chinese obese and you probably can't find an obese Indian either.

However, I'm sure that you have been to an Indian or Chinese restaurant.  Now hazrat Abbasi how much rice do they serve?  It's a side of rice and the main dish is the sauce.  Whereas when you go to a chelo kabobi the main dish is the polo and the side is sauce!  Right?!  Indian restuarants give you one rice dish to be split between 2 people.

As far as the main diet for "masses" it is actually bread more than anything else. When you go to Iran you'll see people having bread for their lunch and dinners around the corner, here and there.  Bread is cheap like 200 - 300 tomans while chelo kabob is expensive like 3000 - 6000 tomans and I don't know how much it is as we speak. 

Everything is sacred


MM

a few short points

by MM on

* There are other cultures where rice is even a bigger part of the staple diet (Indians/Chinese.....).

* How about other general Iranian dishes that do not necessarily use rice, e.g., different aash,  different kookoo,  different boraani (including mirzaa-ghaasemi) or the good old staple of the working class; deezee?

* As the readers have suggested, it all depends on the way you use the ingredients.  For example, my parents' generation switched from animal fat (roghan kermaanshaahi) to vegetable oils and my genration has probably gone down in the amount of oils used by 1/3 to 1/4, never mind unsaturated vs. saturated fats, etc. 


hamsade ghadimi

...

by hamsade ghadimi on

i gave up soccer because i changed my job and moved to a new city.  i used to play with my colleagues.  it was a very large organization so we had many players coming to play two times a week in our very extended lunch hour (sometimes more than two full soccer teams!).  it was the most ideal set-up. i tried it in my new city but was too much hassle and took way too much time to get there and from (took away most of my saturdays), not to mention the players in the new city weren't as refined as my old soccer mates (vahshi boodan).  after couple of months and watching some unneeded kotakkari, i gave it up.  now i sometimes coach and ref kids soccer games.


Anonymouse

Walk don't run!

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I've read running isn't really a good exercise because long term it weakens your knees, too much bumping and grinding.  Why did you give up soccer? How about once a week?

I think the ladies want us to do aerobics and threadmill which I can't bring myself to do!  Granted aerobics is a "full" exercise and you get to shake everything! 

Everything is sacred


hamsade ghadimi

my definition of too much

by hamsade ghadimi on

my definition of too much exercise is when i cannot spend enough time with family.  i was running an hour a day and played two full soccer games a week.  compared to the amount of time i have on hand now, it's too much.  i had to give up soccer and i do miss it very much. :(


Anonymouse

Hamsade what is your definition of the word "exercise" is, IS?!

by Anonymouse on

When you said exercised more than you should, what do you mean? Like walking 30 minutes a week, a day or a month? Or do you mean playing soccer for 2 hours every weekend?

I don't exercise as much as I like but in winters I ski for hours and in Spring and Fall when weather is better I ride bicycle and in summer when the weather is hot, I do nothing!  Well I swim and beach and opening the windows!

As for mobility and taharok I think there is a difference between a blue collar and white collar worker and I've been both, currently white collar otherwise couldn't belog on i.com :-) I "think" any movement including doing home improvements is good and can be defined as "exercise"!  I thinks, dunno for sure!

I know of people who have little to no movement, just eat and sit (work) and sleep!  That's no mobility at all!

Oh and butter on polo? I don't do much, never tried or got used to it.

Everything is sacred


hamsade ghadimi

are you going to put butter in your brown rice?

by hamsade ghadimi on

like i said before, i did not change anything in my diet or exercise (i ate healthy and exercised more than i should!).  the doctor probably thought he was the reason that i dropped my cholestrol!  and he wasn't forcing pills on me.  he was recommending them.

the drop of almost 100 points in cholestrol count (in six months) was either a fluke (misreading on the first test or second), or less stress at work.

regarding leily and c.o.p.'s comment: are mobility and taharok have the same meaning in your view?


Anonymouse

بابا ما این زبونمون مو در اورد!

Anonymouse


کاپ جان بله تحرک خوبه، خیلی‌ هم خوبه خصوصا میگن سکس خودش کلی‌ تحرکه و خلاصه اگر هیچ تحرک ندارین سکس شب جمعه یادتون نره!

من حرفم سر اینه که همه چیز برای همه یکسان نیست و راه و روش اون بابا که تو هوای سالم کوهستان زندگی‌ میکنه با من که اینجا همبرگر میخورم فرق میکنه.

روغن زیتون (Extra light olive oil for frying and salads) هم هست برا سرخ کردن و (Granola/olive oil) هم خوبه که جدید اومده. 

اونیمیم که شما گفتی‌ چشم به نظر خوب میاد و جالب، حتما امتحانش می‌کنم. 

Everything is sacred


Anonymouse

لا اله الله!

Anonymouse


Hamsade you said you had mid 200s, so (given you haggle :-) let's say it is 260.  When you have 260 then yes any Doctor would think about prescribing drugs but not right away.  He'll give you 3 or 4 months to exercise or change your diet and see if you can do it on your own.  If you can that's the best if not then you have a choice to take medication or not.  No one is going to force feed medication, not even in Obama's health care! Unless we're talking "death panels"!

You said after exercising and so forth you went down to 160?  Well I don't know if that is too low or not, I'm not a doctor, especially going down from 260.  What did your doctor say?  Bottom line high cholestrol for us is not good, with or without exercise.

I wish someone would talk about basmati brown rice and if it can be had as all-you-can-eat-7-days-a-week! 

Everything is sacred


Cost-of-Progress

لیلی زن بود؟؟

Cost-of-Progress


 

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 خوب بابا منم که همینو گفتم تو دادو بیداد کردی ....تحرک کلیده سلامتی است. راستی، لطفآ با  روغن زیتون سرخ نکنید - میگن که روغن زیتون را فقط باید تازه خورد - سرخ میخای بکنی، از روغن داته انگور (grape  seed  oil ) استفاده کن.  حالا نپری به من دوباره... 

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hamsade ghadimi

why didn't you tell me you have american cholestrol?

by hamsade ghadimi on

you didn't tell me "high cholestrol + exercise = ok."  "high cholestrol + lack of exercise = not ok."  got it.  could you also tell that to my previous doctor?  he was alarmed with my high cholestrol when i was donig half-marthons and two soccer games a week.


Anonymouse

عجب گرفتاری شدیم ها!

Anonymouse


بابام جان تو دهات تو کوهستانهای ایران که بری، که من رفتم هم با قاطر هم پیاده این جدیداً هم راه باز کردند با ماشین، مردمش چرب‌ترین تغذیه رو دارند چون همه چیز رو خودشون درست میکنند.  سرشیر، ماست، پنیر، کره تا دلت بخواد چربن.  گوشت هم که هیچیش نباید حروم شه، منجمله دنبه و دنبلان و امثال هوم.

بنا بر این کلسترل شون زیاده.  منتها چون  نیستند couch potato و متحرکند و سبزی و چیزهای دیگه هم میخورند متابولیسم بدنشون کلسترل رو متعادل میکنه. به علاوه چیزهای دیگه، حالا هی‌ ما بگیم، کو گوش شنوا؟!

Everything is sacred


hamsade ghadimi

you missed the part "high" in cholestrol

by hamsade ghadimi on

:)


Anonymouse

Hamsade I don't believe in conspiracies, except JFK's!

by Anonymouse on

Some of JFK's file are still sealed and won't be opened until 2025 I think.  Other than that Ahmadi brings up a new conspiracy every day and in this website or Iranian media all we hear are conspiracies, so no thank you no more conspiracy!

I'm not listening to only my doctor.  As I said many around me said the same things and if you ask others or make your own research, you'll find the same.

As for your article, the key words are in bold "High in the Italian Alps above the Venetian coast is a village where people do not fall ill. "  I've read similar stories about villages in high altitudes in France and Russia and other places as well, including our own Iran.

When you live in these places you don't eat junk food.  There is NO junk food to begin with so all your life you eat and live good.  I wish I could live high in the Italian alps!  Heck I even settle for high in Alborz mountains and away from the nasty Islamic Republic!

But I live in the city of America or Iran and have to make the best of it.  I must be getting old ;-) 

Everything is sacred


hamsade ghadimi

anon, i believe that my

by hamsade ghadimi on

anon, i believe that my level was in mid 200s and then went down to 160s after six months.  the jury is still out on the issue of cholestrol (much contention).  remember, when they discovered that there was actually good cholestrol and bad ones.  prior to that, it was all bad.  at any rate, you can find much literature on the myth and hysteria surrounding cholestrol. and the pharmaceutical industry is fueling much concern regarding the cholestrol issue.

i remember watching a news piece of people in a town in europe with unheard levels of cholestrol and almost no physical ailments typically attributed to high cholestrol.  here's a link to what i believe is the same town: //www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/an-alpine-shangrila-the-town-that-holds-secret-of-good-health-422762.html

and here's a video for what you're gonna miss:o)

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPLi5WHCDyo

i'm not trying to minimize your health concerns.  but i think there's more to this story than listening to the good doctor.


Cost-of-Progress

10-4

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Anonymouse

"A" grain will be ok ;-)

by Anonymouse on

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Cost-of-Progress

Salt's bad for BP

by Cost-of-Progress on

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Anonymouse

My comments should be taken with a grain of salt!

by Anonymouse on

Everything is sacred


Cost-of-Progress

gees, anonymouse

by Cost-of-Progress on

Why so pissed bud? I just offered my opinion and you jumped all over me. I take the same pills you noted; take it easy bro'. 

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Anonymouse

باز دوباره لیلی مرد بود یا زن؟!

Anonymouse


CoP just because you "think" there is nothing wrong with polo doesn't make it so!  Again when you are young your stomach can disolve stones (say in sangak :-) but it doesn't mean it can forever.

Less polo and bread is a general advice health professionals provide, they don't say don't have it just not all the time like we do.  They say the same thing about fast food and saturated fat.  Is nothing wrong with that too?!

I'm trying to bring it to your attention that I "thought" like that too and ignored others who said so.  Now I'm going to give it a try and I wouldn't dismiss drugs like Tom Cruise dismissed them while jumping on Oprah's couch!  Yes there are bad doctors and drugs don't substitute exercise and eating healthy, they should be taken in conjunction if necessary. 

BTW I don't take cholestrol pills, just a low dose high blood pressure pill.

Everything is sacred


Cost-of-Progress

Nothing wrong with polo

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Most of the people in our area of the world have been eating it for eons. The trouble is lack of mobility. Our lives are less walking and more driving in the past 20-30 years. There is no activity. Also, chloestrol is mainly a genetic issue, so if your mom or dad has high cholestrol, chances are you 'll have it too. Diet is important, but it only goes so far.

I agree that doctors are worthless and only know how to load you up with medicine and shrug when things don't improve. Believe me, we're going through that now in our family and it is frustrating.

With a little bit of awareness, and in most general cases, you are probably your own best doctor of your own body.

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