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16-Jan-2012
Since this appears to be another petition signing day, I figured I should cook up a petition of my own and ask for support. Here it is:
Since 1979, the Islamic Republic has been engaged in committing various crimes against humanity in Iran. It has executed tens of thousands of Iranians, imprisoned hundreds of thousands of others, tortured just as many and forced an equal number into exile. In the past thirty three years, the Islamic Republic has killed, tortured and imprisoned a large number of Iranian scientists, intellectuals, political activists and even children in a similar manner. By now, it is clear that this is a systematic campaign with political intentions. Media reports and political pundits attribute these atrocities to the Islamic Republic.
If public reports are true that these crimes against humanity are orchestrated by the Islamic Republic, in order to maintain its hold on power, and to loot Iran’s wealth, then we petition the Islamic Republic to stop these atrocities –a tactic replacing political engagement with executions, imprisonment, torture and terror at the expense of innocent civilians. If allowed to continue, these crimes against humanity provide the Iranian authorities with the tools needed to continue to suppress voices of dissent, even on the Iranian nuclear issue, to arrest and imprison political opposition, and to further curtail the activities of human rights activists.
Moreover, the Iranian regime has engaged, in the past 32 years, in a campaign of bellicose warmongering, which has included, but has not been limited to, attacking and occupying foreign embassies and diplomatic missions (one as recent as a couple of months ago), taking foreign diplomats hostage, promising to wipe other nations off the map of the world, threatening to close international waterways, supporting terrorist groups around the world and engaging in clandestine nuclear activities in violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty and United Nations resolutions. All of these activities have brought crippling sanctions upon the Iranian people and have brought the country to the brink of a devastating war, which is the Islamic Republic’s ultimate goal.
As academicians, writers, human rights activists, and intellectuals, we condemn these atrocities. Such belligerence on the part of the Islamic Republic, its crimes against humanity and its warmongering can only escalate the internal tension and regional conflicts toward a military clash or war. Regardless of where we stand on Iran's nuclear program, we find these atrocities outrageous because they target the Iranian society without due consideration for human rights, due process of international and national laws, and lives of innocent individuals caught in the crossfire.
These types of killings have to stop, not only because they harm a nation in every possible way, but also because they build a deep psychological scar on the nation's public mind prompting it to ask for revenge in kind. We hope we are living in a better world than that. Killing innocent or even allegedly guilty people without consideration for their human rights and due process, by any force or government anywhere and anytime, is an outrageous act to be protested by all. If murderous dictatorships become the order of the day, no one will be safe in this world.
The following individuals have not yet signed this petition. But judging by their level of concern for the Iranian people, I am sure they will sign it once they notice it. So, I ask these find young men and women, especially the poets :-), to join me in condemning the Islamic Republic. I will look forward to their support:
01. Arshin Adib-Moghaddam, SOAS, University of London
02. Masih Alinejad, Journalist
03. Asieh Amini, Journalist and Human Rights Activist
04. Fariba Amini, Independent Journalist and Writer
05. Hooshang Amirahmadi, Professor, Rutgers University
06. Richard P. Appelbaum, Professor of Sociology, University of California at Santa Barbara
07. Rahim Bajoghli, Human Rights Activist
08. Darioush Bayandor, historian, author
09. Asef Bayat, Professor, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
10. Iris Bazing, MD, Baltimore, Maryland
11. Maria Bennett, Poet, New Jersey, USA
12. Mohammad Borghei, Strayer University.
13. Mehrzad Boroujerdi, Professor, Syracuse University
14. Juan Cole, Professor, University of Michigan
15. Shirindokht Daghighian, Independent Scholar & Author
16. Mehrdad Darvishpour, Lecturer at the Malardalen University, Sweden
17. Lucia F. Dunn, Professor of Economics, Ohio State University
18. Goudarz Eghtedari, Ph.D., Voices of the Middle East
19. Mohammad Eghtedari, Economist, Washington, DC
20. Nader Entessar, Professor of Political Science, University of South Alabama
21. Amir Fassihi, Nowruz Foundation for Nonviolence, CA
22. John Foran, Professor of Sociology, University of California, Santa Barbara
23. Ali Fathollah-Nejad, School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London
24. Yoshie Furuhashi, Editor, MRZine
25. Alexandra Gallin-Parisi, Professor, Trinity University
26. Amir Hossein Ganjbakhsh, Senior Investigator, National Institute of Health, Bethesda, MD
27. Reza Goharzad, Journalist, Los Angeles
28. John L Graham, Professor Emeritus, University of California, Irvine
29. Hossein Hamedani, Professor, Marquette University, Milwaukee, WI
30. Nader Hashemi, Professor, University of Denver
31. Esmail Hejazifar, Professor of Physics, Wilmington College, Ohio
32. Paula Hertel, Professor of Psychology, Trinity University, San Antonio, TX
33. Mohsen Heydareian, Ph. D, Political Science, Sweden
34. Fredun Hojabri, Retired Professor of Sharif (Aryamehr) Univeristy of Technology
35. Angie Hougas, Human Rights Activists, McFarland, WI
36. Noushin Izadifar Hart, M.D., Radiation Oncologist, Reston, Virginia
37. Azadeh Jahanbegloo, Sociologist, Wright State University, Ohio
38. Jahanshah Javid, Editor, Iranian.com
39. Hasan Javadi, Retired Professor of Persian Language, University of California, Berkeley
40. Mark C. Johnson, Executive Director, Fellowship of Reconciliation, NY
41. Yahya Kamalipour, Chair, Global Communication Association, Purdue University
42. Aziz Karamloo, MD, Faculty Member, University of California, Los Angeles
43. Mahmood Karimi-Hakak, Professor of Theatre and Film, Siena College, NY
44. Liam Kennedy, Community Board Member,CCPB, UC, Irvine
45. Fatemeh Keshavarz, Professor, Washington University, St. Louis
46. Nanette Le Coat, Associate Professor, Modern Languages and Literatures, Trinity University
47. Arturo Madrid, Professor, Trinity University
48. Ali Akbar Mahdi, Professor Emeritus, Ohio Wesleyan University
49. Azita Mashayekhi, Industrial Hygienist, International Brotherhood of Teamsters
50. Rudi Matthee, Distinguished Professor of Middle Eastern history, University of Delaware
51. Farzaneh Milani, Professor, University of Virginia
52. Yaser Mirdamadi, Independent Scholar
53. Ziba Mir-Hosseini, CMEIL, School of Oriental and African Studies
54. Ida Mirzaie, Ohio State University
55. Valentine M. Moghadam, Professor of Sociology, Northeastern University
56. Mahmood Monshipouri, Professor, San Francisco State University
57. Akbar Montaser, Professor, Department of Chemistry ,George Washington University
58. Reza Mousoli, Canterbury Christ Church University, UK
59. Baquer Namazi, Retired UNICEF Country Representative & Civil Society Activist
60. Arash Naraghi, Assistant Professor of Religion and Philosophy, Moravian College
61. Mohamad Navab, University of California, Los Angeles
62. Farrokh Negahdar, Political Analyst
63. Mohammad-Reza Nikfar, Independent Scholar and Philosopher
64. Azam Niroomand-Rad, Professor Emeritus, Georgetown University Medical Center
65. Farhad Nomani, Professor of Economics, American University of Paris
66. Mehdi Noorbaksh, Associate Professor, Harrisburg University of Science & Technology
67. Trita Parsi, President, National Iranian American Council, Washington, DC
68. Richard T. Peterson, Professor of Philosophy, Michigan State University
69. Davood Rahni, Professor of Chemistry, Pace University, New York
70. Farhang Rajaee, Professor, Carleton University
71. Asghar rastegar, MD, Professor of Medicine, Yale School of Medicinek
72. Thomas M. Ricks, Ph.D., Independent Scholar
73. Mahmoud Sadri, Professor of Sociology, Texas Woman's University
74. Muhammad Sahimi, Professor, University of Southern California in Los Angeles
75. Hamid Salek, D.D.S. University of Southern California , Los Angeles
76. Reza Sarhangi, Professor, Department of Mathematics, Towson University
77. Mehrdad F. Samadzadeh, University of Toronto
78. Gabriel Sebastian, Author, Futurist
79. Ali Shakeri, Community Board Member, CCPB, UC, Irvine
80. Evan Siegel, Ph.D., Independent Researcher on Iran & Azerbaijan, Adj. Mathematics Prof., CUNY
81. Arman Shirazi, Senior Scientist, CSM North America
82. Sussan Siavoshi, Professor, Trinity University
83. Mark D. Stansbery, Iran Action Network
84. Sussan Tahmasebi, Women's Rights Activist
85. Mohamad Tavakoli-Targhi, Univeristy of Toronto
86. Bahram Tavakolian, Willamette University
87. Farideh Tehrani, Ph.D., Middle Eastern Studies Librarian, Rutgers University, NJ
88. Mary Ann Tetreault, Cox Distinguished Professor of International Affairs, Trinity University
89. Nayereh Tohidi, Professor, California State University, Northridge
90. Patricia Trutty-Coohill, Professor of Art History, Siena College, NY
91. Farzin Vahdat, Research Associate at Vassar College
92. Bill Wolak, Poet, New Jersey, USA
93. Leila Zand, Program Director, Middle East Civilian Diplomacy, Fellowship of Reconciliation
94. Hamid Zangeneh, Professor, Widener University
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This is not a Petition
by bahmani on Tue Jan 17, 2012 09:24 AM PSTA petition must be directed to a government official.
Who is this going to be sent to?
Before you answer "uh no one, I just thought..." let me say, Aha! so it is not going to be sent to anyone!
Well, then it isn't a petition and is about as useless as my comment here. Actually my comment might be a nudge better.
PLEASE. When you do these kinds of petitions, do the extra step and research who it ought to go to, and actually address it to them at the top of the petition.
Masalan, "To Ayatollah Khamenei,"
Then when you get the signatures (FYI, you need hundreds of thousands by the way, not 50 so called professors, who don't count as anything important to Iran), actually do the next thing and actually really send it to the addressee. IN the case of Iran this means email, fax, and post. Preferably registered so you know it arrived and was signed for.
That's how petitions are sent. And that's why (sometimes) they work.
I know it's dangerous and risky for you personally to do all of that, but that's what it takes for this to be called a petition.
If after now understanding what a petition is, you change your mind, I completely understand.
To read more bahmani posts visit: //brucebahmani.blogspot.com/
Dear Ari
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Tue Jan 17, 2012 04:52 AM PSTMaybe I should have titled it differently. What RG posted is not comparable to the rioters. You got to be able to see it as a journalist. One is a violent reaction the other a peaceful two paragraph post on IC!
Imagine those objecting to the cartoon said "the cartoonist is an ***hole". Or went further and added a few more explicit words to it. Nobody would fault or blame them. People would say fine the cartoonist got them mad and got an earful.
I am defending the right to free peaceful but offensive speech. You post a picture that he does not like. He posts something others don't like. Both are free speech and neither side has a right to ban the other one. No matter how much they don't approve.
Ari, dont understand why you got so angry and abusive towards me
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Mon Jan 16, 2012 09:53 PM PSTis it because the bassiji's head was blown to bits? (not my fault, honest).
Or Souri said you are a Sicko (not my fault either, she obviously knows you best).
Any how, go to bed, take a rest and relax, it was just another bassiji. No one will come after you in your age and condition. You simply dont matter :)
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
VPK
by Ari Siletz on Mon Jan 16, 2012 09:42 PM PSTRG doesn't need a defense, any more than it makes sense to defend the Mohammad cartoon rioters. People have their sensitivities, each according to where life has led them. This is humanism!
In defense of RG
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Mon Jan 16, 2012 09:32 PM PSTYou in all fariness cannot compare the response of RG to Islamists over Mohammad. RG wrote a post that is critical of the picture. Islamists rioted; issued death threats and even carried it out.
We all have a right to criticize a picture we don't like. We don't have a right to issue death threats or riot. I do not see RG doing anything either illegal or in any way unreasonable. He has a right to voice his distaste of the picture.
Do you folks really not see the difference? To compare the actions of Islamists and RG is ridiculous to the extreme. I don't know what going "ballistic" means. But I do know the difference of a critical post and actions of Islamists.
Thanks Souri and Anahid
by Ari Siletz on Mon Jan 16, 2012 09:24 PM PSTI made a Freudian spelling error in the title of the Roshan-child-Neda blog, and when I asked Jahanshah to change "Artithmetic" to "Arithmetic," he wrote back that he did. It seems in his Freudian wisdom he kept the original title thinking he had changed it. The title as it stands represents the image much better because in art each viewer has their individual take on what the work means. Actually Roozbeh's reaction quite confirmed my expectation that the image would insult some viewers with a subconscious mindset of religious zealotry, even though they think of themsleves as being secluar. To wit, the case of Islamist zealots going ballistic over the Mohammad cartoons. Interestingly, in the case of my blog's image there wasn't even the hint of hostility to the subject that the Mohammad Cartoons implied. Naughty of me perhaps, but far from being insulted by Roozbeh's words, I am delighted that he confirmed my prediction: you don't have to be a religious zealot to think and act like one.
Thanks Roozbeh, for the data!
VPK: I wish we could hear from Neda's parents...
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Mon Jan 16, 2012 08:59 PM PSTI wish we could hear from them..... what they think about the "humanist" who photoshop the picture of their beloved daughter murdered by a bassiji, next to the smiling picture of another bassiji .....
As for me, being followed from blog to blog and attacked by this pack of "angry humanists", is Just the motivation I need to speak the truth, louder and clearer. these minions can never silence me....
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
Dear VPK
by Anahid Hojjati on Mon Jan 16, 2012 08:56 PM PSTthis was one killing. i don't even know who killed him. he worked for iri and became basiji. i am saving my sorrows for classmates i had who were executed when they were not even 20. also i knew many people who never took arms against iri or worked on any bombs but iri terrorized them, their family and friends. i haave serious concerns about focusing on one death and forgetting all the executions.
VPK jon, don't worry that much :) a joke for you to laugh a bit
by Souri on Mon Jan 16, 2012 08:56 PM PSTمحمودجان شما ایرانی ها کارهایی می کنید که ما انگلیسیها به انگلیسی
بودنمان شک می کنیم.
عزیز من شما سی سال است ریاست اپک را بهتان نمی دهند
چیزی نمی گوئید. خسارت جنگتان را هم خوردند و رفتند ، چیزی نمی گوئید. حق و
حقوق دریای خزر را هم که نمی توانید زنده کنید. از پس این شیخ
های خلیج ( فارس) هم که بر نمی آئید. چینی ها مدام به هوای حمایت هسته ای ،
جنس بنجل بارتان می کنند ، چیزی نمی گوئید. شرکت های نفتی هم که دولا
پهنا با شما حساب می کنند ، چیزی نمی گوئید. اتباع شما را در سراسر دنیا
راه نمی دهند اگر هم بدهند انگشت نگاری می شوند ، نمونه اش سفارت خودمان در
تهران ، چیزی نمی گوئید. روسیه برای تکمیل این نیروگاه فکسنی بوشهر مرتب
تیغتان می زند چیزی نمیگوئید. دانشگاه کلمبیا می روی کلی کلفت بارت می کنند
، می خندی و آنر ا عظمت ملت ایران نشان می دهی .
خلاصه برادر من ،
نوکری آمریکا و انگلیس چه دردی داشت که رفته اید نوکر چین و روسیه شده اید؟
قربان آن هاله ات بروم از وقتی رفتی توی کار هولوکاست اینجا مرتب همه
کانالهای تلویزون و روزنامه ها از هولوکاست صحبت می کنند . تمام مرغ و
خروسهای انگلیس هم به هولوکاست ایمان آوردند. جان مادرت ول کن شاید
تلویزیون یک کمی ما را نشان دهد . محمود جان بدون تعارف می گویم ، از
الگوی مدیریتت خیلی خوشم آمده . مخصوصا آنجائیکه خودت کاپشن می پوشی ولی به
ملوانهای جاسوس ما کت و شلوار می دهی . با این کارت در ارتش ما همه داوطلب
اسارت شده اند و ریزش نیروهای ما در عراق سرسام آور شده . حتی شنیده ام به
نیروهای ما پیشنهاد وام ازدواج و مسکن مهر هم داده ای. فدایت شوم این
کارها درسته؟
این ایده سیب زمینی مال خودت بود؟ محشر بود ، قرار است در
انتخابات بعدی ما هم یک چیزی مجانی بین مردم توزیع کنیم . چه پیشنهاد می
کنی ؟ با این حال اگر مانعی نداره گوردون (براون) را بفرستم تا راه حلهای
مدیریت جهان و کنترل بحران اقتصادی را فشرده برایش تدریس کنی. تورم در
انگلیس غوغا می کند ، شده ۴% چه کارش کنیم؟ از آنجائیکه اگر ملکه بفهمد
من این نامه را برایت نوشته ام ممکن است من را مثل رکسانا صابری به جرم
جاسوسی دستگیرم کند ، من این نامه را می دهم به سارکوزی که او بدهد به
پوتین و پوتین هم بدهد به چاوز. چاوز هم که می آید کلاس اصول مدیریت بدهد
به شما. تو را به جان کردان قسمت می دهم که این نامه را منتشر نکنی ، حتی
اگر اصلاح طلبان خائن هم پافشاری کردند این کار را نکن . دیگر عرضی نیست
امیدوارم در انتخابات موفق باشی. از طرف من و شری به منزل سلام برسان ..
قربانت تونی
I am wondering where is NIAC
by Artificial Intelligence on Mon Jan 16, 2012 08:57 PM PSTan Iranian American was sentenced to death by the IRI regime last week. Where is the signed petition by Trita and co to save his life? Isn't the execution of this innocent marine an ultimate act of terror if it actually takes place?
Dear Anahid
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Mon Jan 16, 2012 08:38 PM PSTMoving on what do you think about the professor. I am learning more about him and it worries me. If these guys get to have their way it will be bad news. We should not be surprised if other nations take action against them.
Imagine if someone is plotting to kill your family. You have the means to take them out now before they do anything. Will you wait for them do act or will you act first. I used to think IRI is not serious about hitting anyone. But am beginning to wonder.
These people are crazy and not getting better. The more pressure the worse they get. And pressure it building up. Do we know they will not decide to go with a bang. Do we we know what they may bring onto Iran and the world.
Great Blog AO!
by Artificial Intelligence on Mon Jan 16, 2012 08:26 PM PSTThe Hypocrisy of some of these "humanists" is astonishing.
dear VPK
by Anahid Hojjati on Mon Jan 16, 2012 08:23 PM PSTeven if rg did not use names, we were not born yesterday. we understood who he meant and both souri and i found it wrong, even though souri in political views is closer to ari than i am. issue is that you just don't call someone sicko because you disagree with them.
This whole anger
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Mon Jan 16, 2012 08:17 PM PSTWhat is all the anger between people about? I did not find anything particularly nasty in the post by RG. I did not see him attack Ari by name or anything. I do find a Basiji and Neda together distasteful.
People if Faramarz is right then the professor was a radical. With a plan to destroy Israel and America. Do you know what would happen if he got any success. What if he got to blow up a city. Do you realize the retaliation it would bring? Not to mention the innocent victims of his actions. People like that should be locked up. Not in charge of a nuclear program. Now imagine other people who run the program. Made of the same ideology. If they get their way it will bring disaster on the whole region.
Not all people are the same. A humanist does not risk many lives for his own hate. Nor would he or she use their knowledge to plot murder of other people. If murder is bad then so it plotting it.
There was a typo mistake in one of my comments, below
by Souri on Mon Jan 16, 2012 07:58 PM PSTI wish I could correct it, because this change the meaning of the phrase. but unfortunately it has been replied to and I can't edit it, anymore. So I repeat that phrase here, corrected :
The only thing is, Ari (like myself) is NOT into politics as much you and
some others, are. He and me, are much more for the humanism and human
rights, than for the politics.
Thanks for your forgiveness, everybody.
Thanks dear VPK
by Souri on Mon Jan 16, 2012 07:53 PM PSTI know you don't agree with what I have wrote. Actually, that was something general which I said about how the people in Iran (after the revolution) may think about America and Israel
You are absolutely right that this trend existed even before the revolution, but these ideas were not diffused from the TV and radio and at all schools and university, on the street....every where, before the revolution. Hence I said the so called "brain washed" person (to say : farz konim ke in tor boudeh)
But the picture that you have is false , in my opinion. He was not going to work, every day, to find a way to destroy America! This is what America and especially Israel, want others to believe.
Iran is far from being able to make an atomic bombe. With what? Which materials? It is the same story that has been told about Irak. did you forget it? Then I suggest you watch the movie "The Green Zone" starring Matt Demon.
All I am saying is that, Ahmadi-Roshan doesn't deserve so much hate. He didn't deserve to be killed in this way. Yes, he was trying to enrich uranium, but his main point was for sure, trying to help his country not to follow the same destiny as Iraq.
I don't know him personally and never heard his name before. I am not defending him, because I don't see any crime for which he might be guilty and needs my defence.
The sole fact that he was a Basiji, doesn't justify his murder and so much joy of it, in my book.
That's all.
Souri the Emotional & co. here my reponse to you & your insults:
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Mon Jan 16, 2012 07:45 PM PSTجواب ابلهان خاموشیست
I agree with Souri
by Anahid Hojjati on Mon Jan 16, 2012 07:40 PM PSTThat was very distasteful comment about Ari. I have my differences in political views with Ari but that blog was nothing to get this outraged about. As a matter of fact, I took it to mean that you can not just call killing of Mostafa a terror and forget that killing people in demonstrations is a form of terror too.
Roozbeh
by Souri on Mon Jan 16, 2012 07:35 PM PSTYou are wrong. Ari is not a siko. He is a very nice gentlman, intelligent and knowlegeable person. The only thing is, Ari (like myself) is into politics as much you and some others, are. He and me, are much more for the humanism and human rights, than for the politics. This doesn't mean that we are/do better than you. Neither it should be a cause for you to blame us. Ari is not an illiterate or sico as you have mentioned previously. On the contrary he is a savant, in literature and history and mathematics and engineering and maybe much other things that I don't know yet.
You must set your records straight.
If you have an idea or a political opinion, it's fine. Don't push everybody to agree with you . Don't ask everybody to think political and act political, as you do.
When we first came to this site (12 years ago, long before you came here) this site was all about other materials. Much more about social subjects, including politics. It is obvious that the pages turned to be more and more political, given the special situation of our country. We do share our opinions in that matters too. But don't ask us to go with you, hand in hand, all along the road.
This is not us!
Ari's blog was splendid! It came from a wonderful feeling of humanism. Its massage was : Murder is murder and vitcim is victim, no matter who is the murderer and why !
This is the picture seen from an humanist's angle.
You can't fight it! You can't insult it! You can't humiliate it!
You can only disagree with it, and move on!
That's all!
You have no right to insult people, for thinking in a different way than you.
Learn this and move on!
Stop this war-mangering attitude. Stop insulting us.
What if I tell you: Sico, yourself?
Dear Souri
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Mon Jan 16, 2012 07:13 PM PSTI must disagree with you about brainwashed. I remember pre-revolution and I knew just as radical a people as this man. Please do not put the blame on the revolution. We always had radical people.
I do not admire or have empathy for people because they have strong beliefs. In USA we got Tea Party idiots who have very strong beliefs: I do not admire them. Nor do I admire the White Supremacists or Black Radical movements. There is nothing admirable about insanity and radicalism. It is bad and gets worse more strongly people believe in it.
As for being driven by hate I don't like anyone like that. I have been very much vocal in condemning hate driven of all sides. But this guy sounds like he wanted to "destroy America". If this is true what do you expect? Wait until he does something or get rid of him now. The former means risking many deaths. And may bring a retaliation on all Iranians. The latter means just loss of one life. Which is the more prudent. If he really wanted to destroy one I don't blame them for taking preemptive action.
Thanks Vildmose & Faramarz for the great find...
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Mon Jan 16, 2012 06:32 PM PSTYou know, at first blog about the bassiji's death, I posted a comment asking people to show some respect towards him, just in case a member of his family would be reading this site. Then I heard he was a bassiji, which reduced my sympathy for him to a very low level, yet still some sympathy for his family. Then there was that disgraceful blog, with a clear message, where some sicko posted the bassiji's picture next to Neda agha soltaan, who was murdered by a Bassiji thug. That is when I realised the shameful agenda behind all this disgraceful campaign of black propaganda not dissimilar to Rex cinema mass murder by the islamist fascists nearly 34 years ago......
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
Pffft, AO!
by Tiger Lily on Mon Jan 16, 2012 06:24 PM PSTYou should sign the original; I don't think you've thought this one through at all!
The more scientists are killed, the more students will study poetry to save their skin!
P.S. Quite a few on that blog's list are known on record for working very hard against the inhumanities of the regime.
Thanks Faramarz for the find, but
by Souri on Mon Jan 16, 2012 06:15 PM PSTI hope you won't get mad at me, if I say I've found even more empathy for Ahmadi-Roshan, after reading this article. Please believe me , I have no intention to provocate anybody. I am honest.
The guy had a belief (which is not mine, of course) and was true to his own belief. He was doing his job, he didn't kill anybody. Yes, he was driven by hatred (as Vildemose said) but in his thoughts, he was trying to serve his country and save his people, against Israel and America.
But this is the classical case of a so called "brain washed" young Iranian of the post- revolution.
Then what do you say of the cyber-fighters who live in the West and are not less hate-mangers than him? While they are living in a free land and have much more access to learn the truth, they are as much driven by hatred as Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan.
Dear Farmarz: Great find.
by vildemose on Mon Jan 16, 2012 05:46 PM PSTDear Farmarz: Great find. This guy was driven by hatred rather than conviction.
A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
Oon Yaroo
by Faramarz on Mon Jan 16, 2012 05:44 PM PSTYou can have any job you want in the new Iran, but can I become the head of the Academy Awards instead of the President?
The pay is great and the benefits are outstanding!
Basiji Nuclear Guy was a Complicated Man!
by Faramarz on Mon Jan 16, 2012 05:39 PM PSTAnother Gem from the Article. This one is about destroying US and Israel. And the NIACie homeboys say US should negotiate with these people
خیلی به مصطفی اصرار کردم از سازمان بیرون بیاید. میدانستیم که بالاخره یک بلایی سر مصطفی میآورند ولی فکر مصطفی چیز دیگری بود و همیشه میگفت باید کاری کنیم که آمریکا و اسرائیل نابود شوند. میگفت اگر ما نباشیم چه کسی این کار را انجام دهد؟
My favorite part is about the Basiji dude being logical
به گفته این دوست شهید احمدی روشن، مصطفی این طور نبود که کورکورانه یک مسئلهای را قبول کند. مثلا اگر به ولایت فقیه اعتقاد داشت اعتقادش روی تفکر بود و همواره در حال استدلال برای مسائل بود. مصطفی همیشه با اعتقاد پیش میرفت و برای پیشرفت شغلی مسائل را مثل بعضیها مطرح نمیکرد و آگاهانه نسبت به این مسائل اعتقاد داشت. مصطفی برای کارهایش فکر میکرد و پشت فکرش منطق داشت. وقتی هم که من با مصطفی حرف میزدم مصطفی حرفهایم را کاملا گوش میکرد و بعد رد یا تائید میکرد.
//shirazna.ir/news/15456
I read your comment, AO
by vildemose on Mon Jan 16, 2012 05:38 PM PSTI read your comment, AO jon. Spot on as always. I think its called cognitive dissonace in psychology...
A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
AO, I'll sign it with my real name and phone number if you ...
by Oon Yaroo on Mon Jan 16, 2012 05:36 PM PSTpromise they won't end up in the women bathroom stalls saying "For Good Times Call Onn Yaroo!?" Okay!
Thanks!
Vildemose - It's also about saving face and saving their
by Anonymous Observer on Mon Jan 16, 2012 05:26 PM PSTbeloved 1979 devolution. Please read my first comment on this thread, as I explain the mentality:
//iranian.com/main/blog/roozbeh-gilani-15
VPK - That's Iranian xenophobia for you
by Anonymous Observer on Mon Jan 16, 2012 07:33 PM PSTThe interesting thing is how they get along so well. Both are just waiting for a reason to jump on the West.
Iranians are xenophobic, conspiracy theory minded people. The end result of that mentality is being taken advantage of by a regime that all but f**ks you in the a*s but throws you a bone once a while by talking about how it's defeating the ever present "foriegn conspiracy" against you. Hence, be happy and don't complain.