Sic Semper Tyrannis

Before Start this Hallucination

Get your facts straight, Khomeini was not out of Iran for 30 years. He was send to exile by Great supporter of Democracy the Mad man Pahlavi in 1964 first to Turkey and then to Iraq that makes it 15 years is simple math that Monarchists Losers and Zionists lovers should be able to do.

And in 1975 Iraq and Iran had stopped their hostilities only after Revolution Iraq attacked Iran at that time both Monarchists losers and so called nationalists were using Radio Baghdad to broadcast Persian program to Iran.

Before Start this Hallucination

Get your facts straight, Khomeini was not out of Iran for 30 years. He was send to exile by Great supporter of Democracy the Mad man Pahlavi in 1964 first to Turkey and then to Iraq that makes it 15 years is simple math that Monarchists Losers and Zionists lovers should be able to do.

And in 1975 Iraq and Iran had stopped their hostilities only after Revolution Iraq attacked Iran at that time both Monarchists losers and so called nationalists were using Radio Baghdad to broadcast Persian program to Iran.

rustgoo, completely wrong

name one person who had even 25% of the popularity that Khomeini had in 1979. There was no one.

The truth is "they " were all
opposing the Shah's regime and in the throes of revolution-making fervor.

Please! Why would someone who is NOT a supporter of Khomeini want to come to the streets to greet him? If they were just "opposing the Shah", but not for Khomeini they would not want to give Khomeini more popularity.

Reality might be painful for you, but you gain nothing by denying it.

Hovakh,
how that scumbag khomeini along with the rest of his crew sold the country and became merceneries of the west under cover and the enemy within.

You're insane. There's no amount of truth that will cure this kind of conspiracy theory.

The 85% was the number of people who came to the polls is 2009. In 1979, the number was over 90%.

Q, misrepresentations and inventing facts are all yours

Western Media was instrumental by all accounts and existing footage, editorials, books by former agents and on and on...and it is only a few days since the various leaks show the extent of direct help the British, French and others provided to Khomeini. His residence ready with a 26 line phone system and guards when he arrived in Neuf Le Chateau was just the beginning. Saddam was allowing Khomeini to preach his bs, incite clergy inside and lead building of groups and organizations within Iran as it served his purposes.

Once the tightly kept secrets of Algiers accord are release after 30 years based on FOIA, it will become indisputably clear how that scumbag khomeini along with the rest of his crew sold the country and became merceneries of the west under cover and the enemy within.

As for 85% and millions, again you are misleading because millions came for freedom in ferver of a movement they still regret and not for khomeini, and it was the foreign media that made khomeini the leader of the mutiny. Otherwise people outside of the clergy and some of elder generation hardly knew who/what the devil he was. The vote for islamic republic was kolahbardary/hoghebazi and start of a 30 year miserable downfall (per khomeini's commitment to his western masters) for Iran and what people are trying to dismantle in its totality now.

Shah was no celebrity and references of strong ally here and there were certainly not a global media chorus and what was said is quite common in formal gatherings and speeches and have been used for AN also by Chavez and the like. When all of major world media talks about, covers, and shows shepeshoo khomeini on TV every day (as observed by anyone who was outside Iran then) and everyone else inside, presents him as the leader, that is biased, agenda based and interventionist.

As for lack of leadership outside of Iran, that is another misrepresentation by you. RP is a contender (not my choice or favorite) even if not the main one. To the extent that there is no leading candidate outside, first, I see that as an advantage so we don't end up with another alien scumbag like khomeini and his whole lineage. Second, IRR has been busy terminating and slicing anything that looks like opposition starting with Bakhtiar outside and just about everyone else inside Iran and continues to do so as we speak.

No surprise that you don't see any hypocrisy.

Khomeini's supporters

It's nothing short of an attempt to distort a historical fact to imply
that millions of people who greeted Khomeini on the day of his arrival
from France were all "his supporters". The truth is "they " were all
opposing the Shah's regime and in the throes of revolution-making
fervor.

The left is so full of sh***

I have lived in the US since the revolution. My own politics are liberal in the sense that I support a single payer health care; tax payer funded education and a social security network.

However I have been most disgusted by the left when it comes to Iran. Not just Iranian 60's dinosaurs but also modern Western left wingers. To be honest I do not even pay any attention to Iran's 60's leftovers since they have no chance of ever getting to power. The Shah rightfully saw through them and the IRR repaid them well for their support!

The real danger to the world comes from Western leftists. As another reader said: read Huntington Post. You will see how the left supports ANYONE who is anti Western. They will also demonize anyone who so much as dares criticize Islam. I dared to criticize Islam a few times and was called: Nazi; Racist; Islamophobe and Fascist. Western leftists who have not spent one minute under an Islamic regime. What a bunch of hypocritical frauds. They are the only bunch dumber than birthers.

I agree with Q

I'm sorry, AO, but your representations of facts are quite sloppy and even fractionary.

You seem to have somehow formed a generalized judgement based on personal impressions, and little more. 

Your point gets lost in many inaccurate "facts"

for example that Saddam was "aiding" Khomeini or that Western media were instrumental in communicating to IRANIAN revolutionaries.

This is probably the biggest point that you misrepresent: Khomeini was forced out of Iran, yes, but his supporters inside Iran considered him the leader of the movement nevertheless and this was proved by the reception he received after landing in Iran.

Today, no such "foreign based" leader has any such credibility inside Iran (sorry, this is an indisputable fact). The people with the most crediblity the ones who can mobilize 85% of the people to come to polls and Millions to come to the street are inside Iran. The ones outside are wishful thinkers and dreamers at best, who are actually trying to undermine the real leaders.

You mention the media in 1979 as if it was "pro Khomeini." Perhaps the narrative of the revolution made a good story in the last few months of the Shah's regime, and even that was not the universal view. But for 30 years before that Western media on the whole was very positive on the Shah making him something of an International celebrity, an "strong ally" and friend of the West against communists. Why don't you mention that?

The role of Western media is radically different in 2009. Israeli politics have realigned completely to focus on Iran and demonize it. IN addition the number of Iranian dissidents living in Europe and America are much bigger. And the relationship with Iranian government is much more hostile.

I don't see the hypocrisy. There are good reports on Iran, then and now and there are opportunism and lies then and now.

AO jan: although IRI has killed 100 times more lefties than Shah

, their hatred of Shah was 100 times more.

To understand them, you should look through their thick and distorted eye-glasses, which show only one image: WEST is evil and its imperialism must be defeated, at all cost!

AO, insightful and timely post.

I am not sure if it qualifies as hypocrisy despite being hypocritical. Iran has always been a valuable prize to east, west, north and south so in some form she is on the receiving end of forces that align against her. So the 'human rights' that brought shah down would not be an issue when IRR does it at several orders of magnitude higher. And while people watch Iranians die on the streets, it is the economic interests of the same that favors a weak, incompetent and alien government like IRR. The good news is that IRR has ticked off most of not all, even if they want another weak islamic incompetent regime in its place, rather than a nationalist, technocratic one. That is why you see all the various islamists from NIAC to soroush to dabashi and the rest get microphone and camera attention. That is why this battle can and will only be won by Iranians only. The unknown is what price the world has to pay before it realizes taking the side of Iranian people is the only sane option for a multitude of reasons, not the least of which is the greater central Asia and not just Middle East.

Good Points AO

Thanks for the insightful comparisons between the two eras.

Happy New Year,

DK

you said it

pal, Dinosaur left :). except that these are native dinosaures with an ommatie  aftertaste, tokhmo tareh jalal al ahmagh va ehsan ridehbehharbaghi.

Cheers pal!!!

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