CARS

Desertlion....grow up

It's obvious that I'm intimidating you, but that's a problem you will have to deal with on your own. Your opinions of me are meaningless.

Yes indeed, I adhere to the facts. I have no time for fallacies, fantasies, myths or blatant stupidity, whether generated by the likes of you or anyone else. There's nothing wrong with not knowing a particular fact or piece of data. The error comes from thinking you do, learning that you don't yet still continuing down the path of ignorant bliss when corrected.

If you don't like Corvettes, fine. No one is forcing you to. The model has been in production for 55 plus years now, thriving without you, and without me for that matter as owners or drivers of one. Other than the two particular 'Vettes I mentioned, they aren't my particular cup of tea. But unlike you, I have respect and appreciation for American muscle cars of the 1960s and 1970s and I readily see the appeal that these cars clearly have, both as symbols of nostalgia, popular culture and history as well as the investment appeal they have generated lately.

Maybe you like another type of car. Maybe you don't. Maybe you take the bus. It doesn't matter. Invariably, people who knock the taste of others in the pathetically childish manner you employed lack the means to either afford or appreciate a collector car. And people who are that petty simply don't matter.

Have a wonderful day.

Mr. Nouraee, you have a big ego

which is limiting you to stay with the facts. I suggest that you have someone review your postings and give you a feedback. Better yet discuss it with a shrink, and hopefully you'll get an analysis of your character.

Cheers.

Desertlion

Car salesman? I'm not one. I hired them. I run the business. I'm also involved in other business ventures. So, pigeonholing me with your negative stereotypes is a waste of time.

Researched? I will put my automotive knowledge up against yours any day of the week.

A roadster is not a coupe. It is a 2 seater that lacks a fixed roof. A Ferrari 355 Spyder is one example, a Mercedes SL is another, despite the fact that it has a retractable hardtop.

The CLK-GTR, having a fixed roof is not a roadster.

I'm sorry you have difficulty distinguishing between a garden variety trailer park redneck (can't finance a Kia) and a rich hillbilly (can buy you several times over).

You want to keep believing a Corvette (proper spelling) is a redneck sports car? Go right ahead. If you are referring to any GM product built after 1973 (with only a handful of exceptions), I don't care for them anyway. I'm not even a fan of any American car built after 1973. They're all poorly built junk to me.

This weekend, the Barrett-Jackson collector car auction will be in Las Vegas at Mandalay Bay. You go ahead and check out the prices on some of those cars. Especially the 1963-1971 Corvettes, 1964-1970 Mustangs, 1967-1971 Camaros and Firebirds, 1966-1971 GM A-Body cars (especially Chevelles with a 396 or 454) and Chryslers with Hemi engines.

Those redneck sports cars are, in fact, investments.

AW....The 72 Merc reminds me of Hawaii Five-O and Jack Lord....damn... I'm aging myself there.

And yes...the 240Z is one hell of a car. Once they went to a 260Z in'74...they blew it.

mea culpa mea culpa

I would never argue with my man about cars either... he can spot a "whatever" from a half mile away.  I'm generally clueless when it comes to cars.  I either like 'em or I don't.  And from a woman's point of view, the 'vette is hugely overdone.  It doesn't take anything away from y'all liking them but don't be thinkin' that the chicks dig it...lol.

My dad always had the coolest cars.  One of my favorites was probably a 72 or 73 big black Marquis Brougham.  I think I was allowed to drive it once.  We three older kids had to share a 69 VW "bug" in high school while he drove a 72 "Z" car, thus my favoritism towards the "Z".  I'd buy one in a heartbeat. 

ps... it will stay in the garage while the Sting Ray sits on the carport...:-)

AW

I indeed know about the Spyder. Open top two seat Ferraris are called spyders. Porsche had one too..the 550. It's the one James Dean was driving when he was killed.

I couldn't make sense of what Desertlion was saying. He's referring to Lamborghinis, Ferraris, and Spiders. Two manufacturers and a model of a third.

Oh, I remember Alfas. I remember them breaking down all the time. LOL Same with Fiat, which stands for Fix It Alla Time.

Don't take issue about the Lincolns. Not only do Texas oil barons drive them, but so do retired Jewish podiatrists living in Boca Raton. Those are usually white with the fake convertible tops and very low mileage, from driving to and from doctor's appointments and pinochle tournaments.

:-)

Mr. Kaveh - You are contradicting yourself

Car saleman! I should have known with you providing the fuzzy facts.

It is good at least you researched the fine cars I mentioned.

But again you are wrong as what the red necks drive and you are contradicting yourself?

Your first response says, rednecks drive Kia, but the seond response says "rich hill billies drive Cadillac XLRs, Lincoln Town Cars, Mercedes-Benzes and Lexus. The super rich ones drive Rolls Royce Phantoms and Maybachs. Their wives drive Jaguar XJ sedans and their mistresses drive Mercedes SLKs and BMW 3 series convertibles, Of course there are the occasional concubines who roll in a Porsche Carrera Cab (with a Tiptronic) after they roll with "Big Tex".

Also you did say that "In 2006 a 1953 'Vette sold for $1,000,000. Rednecks can't even spell the word million. Hell, a redneck can't even count to 21 unless he was naked."

Most of the cars that you refer to in the second response are not cheap. How do you justify counting to 21 with of those car prices?

In addition, a roadster is usually a coupe.

The bottom line is that Corvett=redneck sports car.

Hillbillies

An interesting fact we just saw a few days ago on The Discovery Channel... I've always known the term as it refers to the rural mountain people of Tennessee, Alabama and NC.  NOT the same as rednecks by the way.  Anywhoo... the term originated in Ireland!  It referred to Protestant supporters of King William who were known as "billy boys".  The term came to be used by the British referring to the mountain men in the Appalachia.

I'm surprised you don't know the Spider... I think it was Alfa Romeo???  Maserati also made the Spyder.

I also take issue with the Lincoln... my dad drives a Town Car!!!

:-)

Desertlion

I happen to know the difference between all of those cars. 25 years in the auto business. I grew up around high performance and exotic cars. That's why the Corvettes I like are the early C3 models that I mentioned along with some of the C2 models. The rest of them don't make the grade because of performance issues and build quality.

I never suggested that the price of the car has any correlation to its level of engineering. One example of proof is the Bentley Continental. For a MSRP that exceeds the purchase price of your home, you get an automobile that is for all intents and purposes, a Volkswagen. The engine? 2 VR6 engine blocks from a Jetta fused together sharing a common crankshaft.  It is built on a Volkswagen frame and uses many components found on the mainstream VW models.

To correct you (again), rich hill billies drive Cadillac XLRs, Lincoln Town Cars, Mercedes-Benzes and Lexus. The super rich ones drive Rolls Royce Phantoms and Maybachs. Their wives drive Jaguar XJ sedans and their mistresses drive Mercedes SLKs and BMW 3 series convertibles, Of course there are the occasional concubines who roll in a Porsche Carrera Cab (with a Tiptronic) after they roll with "Big Tex". Boxsters are for hairdressers. I should know. They are my clients.

By the way, the Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR is not a roadster. It is a coupe. Specifically, it's a homologated race car.

If you have any other automotive questions you want to throw my way, go for it. Just make sure you bring enough paper. You will need to take notes as I will be schooling you.

On on that note...what the heck is a "spider"?

Kaveh and Majid

hmmm, I am sure you have heard of the hill billies.
There are a lot of well off rednecks! Don't believe me, then you haven't been to Texas. All of the rich ones drive corvett, spider, and mustang among a few other redneck/muscle cars. Hell, look at the Bushes.

The price of the car doesn't make it sophisticated and well engineered.

And pleaaaaaaaaaase, don't tell me you don't know the difference between a Corvett and Ferrari, Lamborgini, Audi R8, Mercedes Benz AMG CLK-GTR Roadsters, and many others.

Now, I could tell you what to do with the Khiar and Kadou :-)

HDTV

That's an indoor toy, need a guys toy "Sting Ray" for pushin pedal to the metal....for PCH  !

"Hello officer, I don't think I'm speeding, I'm flying a little low today" !

ps. I got you an  I-POD....why do you need a 240-Z ?

Kaveh

Kias????? 

You are misinformed.  A true redneck would never be caught dead in a Kia.  Rednecks favor either Chevrolet or Ford... and it would HAVE to be a truck, with the gun rack of course... and the beer cooler in the back.

corvettes.... BOR-ING.

Give me a 1972 Datsun 240Z anyday of the week. 

(Baby... you got your flat screen HDTV... don't push it...:-)

Kaveh, I'm laughing my rear off !

You're killing me dude..............LOLOL

I'll send you something about rednecks!

Desertlion

Vintage Corvettes are going through the Barrett-Jackson collector car auctions at prices that go well into six figures, depending on the model year, body style and other factors, such as whether or not it's equipped with fuel injection, the transmission and so on.

In 2006 a 1953 'Vette sold for $1,000,000. Rednecks can't even spell the word million.  Hell, a redneck can't even count to 21 unless he was naked.

Rednecks drive Kias, because they're the only dealerships that will finance them.

desertlion

یه نفر رفت تو میوه فروشی  یه کدو سبز  ورداشت نشون مغازه دار داد و پرسید از این خیار‌ها بیشتر ندارین؟ یارو گفت معلومه نه کدو رو می‌شناسی‌ نه خیار رو !

Redneck sport car

corvettes=redneck sport car :-)

VOW

My personal favorites: a 1969 Sting Ray 427/4 spd or a 1970 with a 454/4 spd. With side pipes.

Small world. I used to go to Ocean City when I lived in DC. Driving on Route 50 in the summertime, the foul stench when you approached Salisbury with the Perdue chicken processing plant (slaughterhouse), trying to avoid the speed traps set up by the Maryland State Troopers. Even with their "unmarked" cars they stood out so obviously Stevie Wonder could tell they were police cars.

I can't believe the Commodore Hotel (picture #8) is still in business!!

VET man

One day I'll finally can afford to get a "Sting Ray" as my toy car...promise.

In khat... inam neshoon