IRAN

God bless His soul

Roohesh shaaaaad.

JAVID SHAH

Everything we have is from HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY...
May he rest in peace.

Khoda Shah Mihan.

Ali P. I'm Afraid you were too optimistic ... ;0(

Jesus and just when moderates Like you Ali P. try to make a difference, some immature comment by others like the silly  "Crowned Cannible" Rhetoric blows any chances of reconciliation and serenity.

Khanoum Azam Nemati You are a Headache !

After Reading all the Junk here ... I wonder if this is the level of intellect we are reduced to then I really couldn't care less if they Bomb those nuclear sites after all.  

Iran is not a country, Its even hardly an Idea ...

I really don't know what it is or was or will be after reading over and OVER AND OVER the same empty comments and OGHDEH !

All I know is that I Truly Don't want to be part of it if it has to be run or populated by such mediocre souls as Mrs. Nemati and Co.

You people hardly even know your history or bother to inform yourself and claim that your country is fit to enter the 21st century with an Atom Bomb enrolled in a turban ?

Some of you people are really PATHETIC ! ...

Good Night, I 've had enough of this junk for this weekend.

D

FEAR: See if this is a possible pathway for the future...

Iranians for some unknown reason have proven that:

They have a "love and hate" relation with Shah
They have a "love and hate" relation with America
They have a "love and hate" relation with Islam

The source of this dualism is not clear by any simple or complex socio-historical analysis but what is important is that to know one's problem is a step toward a possible "WORKABLE" solution.

What is the solution? Avoid extreme emotion and learn to stay on the midway pathway position regradles of whether the situation at hand has gotton way hot or way icy cold--

With this emotion reorientation I think The Iranians as a whole can enjoy a long lasting peace of mind without "FEAR"

More on the state of "Howz"

Misha has more on Howz:
cycle....
by Anonymous Misha (not verified) on Fri Nov 21, 2008 07:50 AM PST

For the sake of completeness, I should add that as a little child I remember my grandparent's howz that I was always so afraid of since it was so green with algae that the bottom of the howz was not visible and I always thought that this water was bottomless. I was puzzled and would not go near the howz in the fear of falling into this dirty water. And that was the water that was used for everything, from islamic "vozoo" to washing dishes, etc. The water was changed only about once a month, sometime longer since the howz had gold fishes and they would not change the water when fish were breeding in fear of losing the fish eggs or the little fishes. Later on I realized that the howz actually had a dent built in at the bottom to collect the fish eggs and provide a safe area for little fishes when it was being drained.

OK

If Shah was wearing a turtleneck, it would look better.

//www.scottssweaters.com/tennis.htm

If you click on the link you might see where I'm coming from.

AW, I'm getting flashbacks to those "no white before Easter" days.

Bridal gowns and tennis whites

have always been excluded from the "no white after Labor Day" rule.  Winter White as Kaveh mentioned is the appropriate winter color...:-).  Oh... and no white before Easter.  The original "ban" applied to dress shoes only but later included clothing.  I remember VERY well my mother adhering to these fashion statements...LOL.

Chashm, Kourosh jan!

I will make sure to go back and re-read all these comments as you suggest. I will try to apply my brain this time. :)

To cycle

The presence of level-headed people like yourself on this website is a rarity. Thanks for your to-the-point comment.

Mammad Reza bayad BARAH!

"Khomeini refused to return to Iran until the Shah left"
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruhollah_Khomeini

For the hysterical, brainless, gullible masses who kept pouring into the streets in millions demanding the return of their Imam, Shah had no choice but to leave.

I don't know why everybody forgets this simple fact and wonders why he had to leave.

Reader

While "winter white" is most certainly an acceptable color, Mohammad Reza Shah is dressed as though he should be holding a tennis racket, rather than ski poles.

If you Google "tennis sweaters" you'll find websites that offer sweaters just like this one for sale.

The Pahalvis should neither

The Pahalvis should neither be demonized nor idolized. He was a human being with many character flaws.

Let's give them credit for building Iran's non-existent infrastructure:

1-Paved and Asphalt roads

2- Transportaion, mass transit, railroad

3- Plumbing

4- Electricty

5- Sewege System

6- Higher Education Institutions: 3 of the best universities in Iran

7- Health care, Child immunization

8- Education

7- women's rights

8- Oil Industry and others

....

The Pahlavis were given a devestated and extremely impoverished and backward country; socially, mentally, economically, and politically,

Anectodal story:

A friend's grandmother used to tell us how people used to wash their dishes in the howz and drink water from the same howz...

....In towns with religious mentality, they would bathe (islamic "ghosl") in the "same" howz before saying the daily prayers. And for ultra-religious, men and women would rinse their bottoms in the howz after a major toilet job. I am serious about this although it is so unbelievable for us, and this was only a generation ago, the generation of your and my grand parents.

Yes, these were the types of people the shah had at his disposal to educate and progress the country, only to bite his hands the minute that they could.

Iran's problem did not start with the Pahlavis. Iran's problems started when the rest of the muslim world fell behind the Western world due to their fanatic religiosity, false pride, tribalism, extreme arrogance, servile attitude toward clergies and monarchs alike, extreme illieracy, blind faith, etc.

Fashion faux pas?

Never, never, never, Mr. Kaveh. Wearing white on the ski slope, and espcially on the sun-drenched porch of a lodge, is very cool. All the ski bunnies in the sixties did it. Long hair, thick eye-liner, pale lips, slim white pants and belted white parkas. Looked fantastic! The guys did it just like Alahazrat, with a white sweater. Reminds me of the first Pink Panther!  

"You don't believe me, ask

"You don't believe me, ask Mr. K nouraee, he is one of the best on this site:))"

You must be new! That is the funniest thing I have ever heard in this website!

Princess, babam jan.

I suggest that you spend a little more time reading these comments closely and i promise that you will get more than you bargained for. I am learning a lot about the actual history , things i did not know or i had read in text books only. The real truth lies within these bits and pieces of knowledge that people would reveal in their comments. You don't believe me, ask Mr. K nouraee, he is one of the best on this site:))

1 cm deep ocean

'master'...'idiot'...'coward'...'poverty'..'too many medals'...'never..'not enough railroads(!)'...'he killed too may..', didn't kill enough'...' I blame Shah for not doing whatever(!) to stop the madness'...

Mr Alborzi:

It's "Huyzer".

General Robert Huyzer, NATO's Second in Command.

And the conversation you mention between him and the Shah, never happened. But I guess you have reliable sources who told you otherwise.

You should read books regarding the matter,Sir, and not just listen to gossips.

This is part of the reason we are where we are.

Don't you people ever get tired??

I mean this one says the glass is half full, the other one says, no it's half empty, and then the next comes along and says, na baba, it's half full, and so on and so forth... it is absolutely comical!

Azizan, it's time to move on , leave what was in the past, in the past where it belongs. Draw whatever lessons you want to draw from it and move on. Basseh dige baba!

Now can somebody please caption the photos so that we know what we are looking at? What happend to all the historians?

Yes he was an idiot for not being like the mullahs

You're right he was an idiot. He should have done exactly what mullahs are doing to all those who oppose them.

Reading these posts

is a great source of amusement.

And while all this "who did what to Iran" crap is flying back and forth like flies at a picnic, those maggots called the IRI have been laughing most of all.

At each and every one of us.

All the way to a Swiss bank.

Just look at the pictures and enjoy them if you wish, or don't. Look at them for what they are. They're just photographs.

Laugh at the fact that in one photo, Mohammad Reza Shah was skiing in Switzerland, but he's dressed in tennis whites, a first degree fashion faux pas.

Exactly, he was just an idiot

Its true that he could have done more bloodshed, but his masters sent the American general (I forget his name) and the idiot said, "Yes sir, can I have more", He
was just a coward who obeyed his master good, it was really interesting when he was kicked out by his master.

Warped logic of "alborzi"

You said "Iran did not have a single mile of new railroads after the idiot came to power, he set the precedence for breaking the law and violating human rights. He cowardly left Iran when his faithful subjects needed him. Good "

He set the precedence for breaking the law and violating human rights?? like Iran was the Switzerland of the ME before "the Idiot" came along!!! baba ay vallah! so much ignorance or pretending ignorance is astouding to see!

The Shah left Iran to prevent more bloodshed! the army could have easily killed hundereds of thousdands as IR in the same position would do without hesitation! The Shah could have easily gotten rid of Khomeini and Co. Do you honestly think he couldn't?!!!!!!!

I guess according to you, he should be called a coward for not having the stomach to kill thousands of people and by the same token and based on your warped logic, we should conclude that Saddam Hussein was a hero who insisted on holding onto power and staying in Iraq, letting his countrymen, women and children be bombarded and killed.

No you're right it is not IR's fault everybody in Iran is poorer and more miserable.

Its different now

Its very interesting to look at these pictures, in fact I went through them one by one. But not because of the idiot coward, it would be better if the picture of Hoveida in the morgue was there too. But aside from the idiot coward, the pictures are great they are of a different time, when you bought Beatles album from Beethoven store. But it has been so the rest of the world, Europe and USA are not as good as in 1960, we are all poorer and older, but its not the IRI who did that. Iran did not have a single mile of new railroads after the idiot came to power, he set the precedence for breaking the law and violating human rights. He cowardly left Iran when his faithful subjects needed him. Good

To IranDokht

I am not trying to whitewash the Pahlavi dynasty's bad deeds but the povery and the depth of misery in Iran is 100 fold worse under the IR considering the vast unimaginable oil/gas revenues of the Islamic Republic of Iran, yet ever since I have been to this site, I have seen nothing but pictures of the most affluent northern neignborhoods, restaurants, boutiques, parkways in Tehran and other cities being posted by various so called "travellers" KNOWINGLY trying to paint a very rosy picture of Iran under the Islamic Republic, quite contrary to what those of us with the least bit of conscience and honesty see and feel with our eyes and souls when we go to visit Iran.

re: disgusted

Before you go on and accuse JJ and the site out of the blue, maybe you should have looked at the pictures first...  speaking of blind hatred!

IRANdokht

Disgusting to read so much blind hatred

I guess we deserve mullahs and nothing more.

I hope somebody would post pictures of Iran (not on this website since I am sure of JJ's obviously blind hatered for the Pahlavi dynasty) at the turn of the last century then you would see how backward and destitute Iran was and would realize how much Reza Shah and his son did for Iran. At least have some ENSAF. You act and talk as if Iran was like Monaco or Luxembourg and the Shah turned it into Bangladesh.

khak bar sar e hamamoon

Thanks for reminding us---

Thank you for the collection of pictures, which reminds the world of the surreal paradox of Iran during the Crown Cannibal’s regime. You do not have to be Einstein to see the poor living in such dire situations while the little man with the big nose was living in opulence and spending his time skiing in Switzerland (God forbid for such asshole to ski in Iran like some of the Iranians did).

The ignorant fellow who called us “oghdeie” let us remind you that most of us who opposed Pahlavi were from middle class families and happened to be travel and see for ourselves the disparity of wealth, instead of reading the garbage newspapers’ propaganda about what this family was doing for us!

By the way, for the record, if you think he paid for me to be educated, I will sign an authorization for Ministry of education to release the information showing that in August 1978 I paid forty-seven thousand Touman (at that time a Touman was equal to $1) to buy back my Hazine Tahsili (education scholarship) because I knew Iran would be rid of Pahlavi, and I wanted to owe him nothing.

I wish the pictures of those issues that matter (like the strike by the oil workers) had a brief description for non-Persian readers.

Thanks
Azam Nemati

enough nostalgia

please! enough already! the modernist iran was nothing but a dream that's gone thanks to Jebheh Gheir e Melli and its Emamzadeh (Mossadegh), wake up to (nightmare) reality.

Dr. Mossadegh

I thought W made flag pins fashionable for a statesman after the September events but I was pleasantly surprised to know that Dr. Mossadegh used to wear patriotic pins (Iranian map) and suede shoes back in the 50s in Iran!

//images.google.com/hosted/life/l?q=Iran++sou...

Can we?

  I am not at my usual home these days and do not get a chance to read Iranian.com as much as I would like. Reading the title, and seeing the picture of this piece, I expected the usual suspects, exchanging extreme comments , reeking of infatuation or blind hatred for this or that regime.

 But almost all comments exchanged were far from what I anticipated; at least so far. I congratulate the participants. As a student of contemporary Iranian history, I appreciate and welcome this civil exchange of  ideas. 

Now my question is: Can we expand the policy to other subjects as well?

I hope the answer is a solid:

Yes,(more than likely!) we can! :-)

Yours,

Ali P.

Great pictures

Thanks for posting. Iran was clearly on the right track back then, and a few more decades of the same policies would have eradicated most of the legacy of poverty that she had inherited as a third world country. A big shame for everyone in the region.

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PS.
'The fact that the other guy doesn't have a leg makes you appreciate the fact that you do, but doesn't magically remove the hole from the bottom of your shoe. It's there and it will aggrievate you if you keep walking in it...'
This coming from the same mouth that asks Iranians today to realize their limited potentials and go with a bunch of mullah lites. Funny, but hardly surprising from the pupils of the great mind of Chomsky and his ilk. Hypocrisy thy name is... . :-)