Current Events

Simorgh

The point is this: are they itching for war if so this is a good start. If they want to play games with marginalizing AN then it may be a bad risk. It gives the West plenty of excuse to do whatever it wants.

The IRI has basically declared war against Britain. No UN approval is needed for a response. Their denials will sound hollow given their previous suppression of "riots". In a single sentence: now West gets to do whatever it wants to them.

It was stupid; and badly thought out by whomever made the decision. Now ball is in the West court and they get to respond as they wish. It may be the move which brings down the whole damned thing. Bad for IRI but maybe good for Iran I hope it.

No worries discorded

Ignorance is indeed pervasive, and you have displayed it well. I am not worried about the thugs understanding Mollana, I am more worried about the rest of the society who should be the force of checks and balance on these guys...

Mullakosh, no worries!

      Those boneheads attacking the unsavory British embassy understand as much about Hafez and Molana that you and your buddies know!

       It's not about Hafez poetry. It is about IGNORANCE. Both Domestic and expatriate kind!

Disenchanted or discorded

Obviously the greater point AO is trying to make is lost on you. One may say, you are more discorded than disenchanted.

No one is blaming Hafez, or Saadi for the embassy take over, but these guys are partially responsible for the mess that Iranian culture is in today, well may be not so much Saadi, but definitely the metaphysically obsessed Sufi poets like Rumi and Hafez.

No one in the U.S recites Henry David Thoroeu, or Ralph Emerson every time there is a tragedy, hurricane, or an earthquack. No one recites the transcendentalists every time we have a poor president who can't run the country. No sane person in the Western World, particularly those in the positions to formulate policies, and react to tragedies would suck up another hurricane to a fate that was long determined, and just "will" of God.

The problem in Iran is this non-chalant toward one's life, everything is in Allah's hands attitude combined with this obsession with the metaphysical world that has made Iranians great at adopting to different situations without ever questioning anything about their surroundings. This is pervasive precisely because of people like Rumi, Hafez, and Shams Tabrizi. These poets have made it a fashion to just surrender to God's will, and let it roll, and while you that, be obsessed with next world. This means every time there is a f**king earthquak in Iran, instead of questioning the building codes in Iran, bunch of passive degenerates are reciting some poet, and shouting Imam Husseing, and calling the people who died martyrs. Meanwhile, those people are not martyred, they were murdered;' where is the accoutability? Who is responsible? What were the root cause? It does not really matter, it is a Allah's will, let' go and read Koran, and become one with some degenerate fool like Ali, or some other crazy bedouin from 1400 years ago...

Dear Bavafa :-)

      Chee begeem aakhe?!

what a bunch of fools

There is actually very few personnel working in the office who are British nationals. Most of them are Iranians or citizens of British commonwealth countries like Ghana, India or Nigeria.

Dear Disenchanted: “Curb your enthusiasm and criticism! ;-) “

به گنجشک گفتن "منار به ک-ت، گفت بگو یه چیزی بگنجه!"

حالا عزیز شما انتظارهای داری 

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Fantastic

Personally I blame Iranian poets.  :)))

//www.quickmeme.com/meme/q39/

Violence isn't the answer, violence is the question. (same thing reeeeeeally )

مزخرفات همیشگی

خبرگزاری جمهوری اسلامی نوشته:

اسناد و مدارک محرمانه و جاسوسی بریتانیا در تهاجم معترضان به باغ قلهک به مصادره آنها در آمده است

//www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2011/11/111129_l10_britain_embassy_tehran_protest.shtml

vildemose

Thx for the video.

But RT should keep quiet. Bloody Sowiets of all people should know who are genuine students and who are not.

Hafez to blame for UK embassy attack! ;-)

       Speaking of G..Z and shaghygheh analysis! :-)

      To blame rest of us for actions of bunch of knockleheads in Tehran is like going to Wall st. execs and telling them you are from same culture that has brought the occupy Wall st. movement! (pun intended).

If yo think about it, it is all Walt whitman and Henry James fault! :-)

      Curb your enthusiasm and criticism! ;-)

VPK

I hear you loud and clear, but let's remember something.

That was then. This is now.

Also, you are bringing up history that involves enemies from outside. The IR is the enemy from within.

What "Students", these are Basij Animals

The International reporters keep calling these MUslim Savages "Students". Just look at their ugly terrorist Islamic faces. They are Basijis. The real students are being tortured in prisions by these Basijis

I agree TS

That is just what I have been trying to say but maybe you explain it better. It is the responsibility of each individual to decide. I will not fault anyone for going to visit a parent in Iran.

Kaveh

Don't be so sure imagine living in Iran in 800 BC. Persian is being forgotten; Arabs have the run of the whole place. The intellectuals are writing in Arabic. No one gives a *** about Iran or history. Guess what Iran survived it.

Imagine the Mongols killing 2/3 of the population. Iran managed agin to make it. Things may be really bad but worse is giving up. Ferdowsi; Yagoob Laith; Babak did not give up and they had it much worse than we do. now.

Marg bar amerika, israel,

Marg bar amerika, israel, Engilis,

3 keshvare terroreest! 

video below:

 //www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ml18DDMblUk

"It is the chain of communicat­ion, not the means of production­, that determines a social process."

-- Robert Anton Wilson

TS-9 - e Gerami - You bring up a very good point

Some people need to go to Iran as their relatives are elderly or unable to leave Iran.

We should think about sacrifice.  If boycotting the IR and not contributing to its economy means that we can't see our elderly relatives (or even parents) that's a sacrifice that we will have to make.  We can't have our cake and eat it too.  Removing this regime means sacrifices on ALL fronts, including the hardship of not seeing our parents and other relatives. 

AO

For your information  I do not own real estate there. The Islamic Republic took my family home and business. I have no plans to buy real estate there. You have no idea what my family went through.

Due to my big mouth and severe criticism of IRI I am on the shit list. I do not dare send my Shenasnameh to them because they may confiscate it. So don't you worry about me paying them. The only chelo kabab I have is in the good old USA. 

My point is it does not matter. Majority of the money is from oil. No boycott by me; you or all 6-8 million Iranians outside makes a difference. If you want to pressure them then you need to stop that. What about this is so hard to understand PLEASE tell me. 

Mullahkosh

I agree.  However, please bear in mind that the IR has tried to blur the line between the two identities for the past three decades, and it has been quite effective.  Just look at this site, and see how some seemingly anti-Ir West residing Iranians are brainwashed to tacitly support the IR and to further its agenda because of their confused identity.   

VPK

With every day that passes, it appears that hope for Iran is fading away. And it's tragic. But it's reality.

It's been 32 years. We no longer have the luxury of time to think about getting rid of the mollahs "at some point". That ship sailed a long time ago.

We also need to be concerned with the perception from the outside, because these are the people that we will need to deal with in order to rebuild. And their perception needs to be changed in order for Iran to be taken seriously.

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Some people need to go to Iran as their relatives are elderly or unable to leave Iran. Life is not that simple.

With regards to the topic, in a statement, the Iranian Foreign Ministry said it "regrets the unacceptable acts of a few protesters" and respects the immunity of foreign diplomatic missions inside Iran. It also said officials would investigate the matter and take necessary steps. 

yeah, right ... 

Incidently I also agree with AO about "Iranians" who travel

to Iran. I strongly condemn these pseudo "Iranian degenerates who every year go to Tehran for their posh parties, etc. These so called Iranians are marginally above the basijis we see in these pictures. Their money, and indirect support facilitates this savagery..

به اینگونه حرکات میگن تلاش مذبوحانه

تنها حامیان دولت جومزوری اسلامی فقط یک مشت اراذل و اوباش هستن.

این برادران اراذل و اوباش هم برا این دولت یک ذره اعتبار باقی‌ نگذاشتن.

آدم حقیقتا وامیمونه که این دولت با این سیاست‌های خرکی و قرون وسطائی چطوری این همه سال سر کار مونده

AO

I don't think we disagree. The only difference between what you say and what I say is that you label these people Iranian, I label them Iranian citizen. As a matter of fact, I agree that most of us are so far away from our roots, we might as be called something else, because we don't fit the definition of "Iranian". Having said that, you don't equate these basiji thugs with the Sassanid Cataphract warrior in your picture, do you? Both are citizens of Iran, but only one is really Iranian.

VPK - do you have the capability to understand nuance?

Or is your level of comprehension is that of a three year old?  Here's the distinction:

No one is talking about oil embargos.  In order for Iranians to be able to distant themselves from the monkeys who climbed embassy walls (again!) they should not be supporting them.  If you travel to Iran, spend money and buy real estate there you are supporting the IR economically.  Therefore, you do not have the right to distance yourself from these monkeys.  They are a part of you. Every time you pay that $150.00 to renew your Iranian passport, your supporting the Islamic Republic.  Every time you buy land in Iran you support the IR.  Every time you buy chelo kabab in Iran you support the IR.  Understand now?

Now go eat your kharboozeh and drink your chai ghand pahloo.   

Dear Kaveh

I know this is the perception in the West and try to change it. But that is not my issue. My point is if AO is right then Iran has no hope; if he is wrong there is hope. It is about Iran I am talking not about the perception with other people

If Iranian people at some point get rid of Mollahs and behave then things will work out. If they really support IRI as AO implies then nothing will improve. 

PS: Jimmy Carter was a gutless ***. May not print my words without being flagged.

Mullahkosh

I like what you posted. Especially the last paragraph, even though in reality it probably wouldn't happen. Carter was/is a gutless piece of shit who enabled this disaster in the first place, not to mention enabling everything else that has originated from within 2500 miles of Tehran since then.

VPK, disagree with AO all you like, but whether you like it or not, THIS is the perception the civilized world has of Iran and Iranians. It doesn't matter if it's a bunch of Basiji goons or not.

Dear Rea

I had a very detailed response but decided to shorten it to one thing: you are right.

I think we have the distinction of being the only nation

on this planet that has attacked embassies and has taken diplomats hostage.  What a great and illustrious culture we have!!!    

Soooo, what do Hafez and Saadi and other great and cultured poets have to say about this?  Anything we can interpret in their valuable verses about attacking embassies and taking diplomats hostage?

Oh, almost forgot.  Another unqiuely Iranian distinction: the only country in the 21st (and the 20th) century that is being ruled by a theocracy.  

Congratulations!!! 

VPK

With the current crisis in Europe, high unemployment and fear of what future has in store, people have simply lost their landmarks. So, everything is being mixed. As a consequence, Chavez, Putin and AN are seen as the righteous ones by a lot of people these days.

And when something happens, like this embassy thing, hard to explain to people that it has nothing to do with fighting for social justice and equality. They refuse to listen. Instead of hearing that it’s all IRI arranged and paid in advance, they prefer to believe it’s proud Iranians fighting against the City and British imperialism.

Crazy world we live in. Mind you, the above is my personal observation. Just as right or wrong as the Joe next door. ;o)