U.S.: Passenger plane parts not banned

American official says civilian aircraft parts not included in sanctions

Stuart A. Levey, U.S. Treasury Under Secretary in charge of coordinating US sanctions against Iran claims the export of aircraft spare parts to Iran for safety of passenger planes is permitted by U.S. government:

14-Jan-2011
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G. Rahmanian

"norooz"

by G. Rahmanian on

Which Iranians? I and millions of others outside of Iran and tens of millions inside the country want the regime gone!!! You, on the other hand, want it to stay in power. If it is not self-interest, why else would you be defending the regime? The regime must go and these sanctions are only hurting those in power and their supporters. Poor Iranians, except for those who have joined the regime, have never had it easy. Iran's natural resources are being depleted and its coffers are being misappropriated by a bunch of thieves and you sit at your desk and tell me that sanctions are hurting Iranians! In a country with such high unemployment and poverty rates and an unbridled inflation, a country where its citizens are deprived of the most basic human rights talking of people getting hurt smacks of hypocrisy, to say the least.


Disenchanted

Spare parts?! Iran should be allowed to buy new aircraft..

by Disenchanted on

How safe Americans would feel if they were flying aircraft made in 70s albeit with new spare parts?! Lets not kid ourselves. Iranian people are victims of foreign aggression and domestic repression.


G. Rahmanian

"norouz"

by G. Rahmanian on

Have you heard of words or expressions like: Protocol, rules of conduct, formalities or etiquette? He is a US official speaking to an audience worldwide. Even if he wanted every Iranian dead, he wouldn't say it. You are used to listening to Ahmadinejad and the mullahs, so you think everyone should talk like them. Empty and foul rhetoric. And for the rest of your nonsense, just look in the mirror and see who the real ass is!


Mohammad Ala

Chicago Convention

by Mohammad Ala on

The USA has violated international laws against Iranian people.

//www.opednews.com/articles/The-Imperative-of-the-Chic-by-Mohammad-Ala-101004-456.html

 


norooz

G. Rahmanian

by norooz on

No, I got some help from you, onlyIran and others like you who defend US.  So, you agree that defending US who is sanctioning Iran, is supporting sanctions?  Then what is with defending this clown? He is saying, Iranians can by the parts, they don't want to. They want their planes to crash. This fool is taking people as fools. And that he is saddened. That the sanctions are targeting the government and...


AlexInFlorida

Levy is deceitful

by AlexInFlorida on

Techncally the air line parts have not been banned for 31 years, but practically they have been and the some very senior people have blocked it to hurt the Iranian people.  The USA is against all Iranians due to Irans strategic location controls oil flow through the strait of hormuz, which is equivalent to around 40% of entire worlds oil.  So in practice it has betrayed and murdered monarchists, republicans, democrats, tudehs, mollahs etc.

No group is safe from USA in Iran.

Today they are financing mojahedin Khalk and maryam rajavi, but will eventually harm her group too.

USA is against economic and social development in Iran, hence the fight against the Shahs industrialization plans and replacement with mollahs.  Iran politically is being treated like Africa in order to send it backwards and this is the real thing that must change.

Americans are bastards of conscience, truth is that shah had an agreement with US Steel 15 years before with Russia and the USA never would deliver it and said officially the USA opposes Steel plants for Iran... so then we got it from Russia.

Iran will not get the parts it needs, even though theoretically they should be able to get it.


Jonny Dollar

Why is it that all the ones in charge of sanction are zionists?

by Jonny Dollar on

could it be that sanctions are not really for the good of the US, but benefitting Israel? dennis Ross, levey,, stein,,, goldman I wish IRI to be destroyed but not by the zionists israelis.

This was a PR interview (BBC) for minds of iranians. that is why he couldn't answer the questions as to when was the last time they sold parts! Give me a break! We know BS when we see it.

"God is love!"


Jeesh Daram

مجید خان سلام

Jeesh Daram


واقعا از دیدار شما شاد شدم . مدتها بود بر سر مسئله ارتباط پروستات با خرخره گیج بودم که خوشبختانه شما موضوع را روشن کردید و در دفتر یادداشت کردم برای مرور مجدد.  سلامت وخوش  باشی

Majid

ج. دارم

Majid


 

 

ترو خدا دیگه راه دور نرو، وقتی فِرش اِیر کم میشه پروستات آدم از حلقش درمیاد تا یه نفس راحت و بی دغدغه بکشه!

زود بزود سر بزن، زیاد نیستن آدمائی که ماها رو «جای خوب » ببرن!!

 


G. Rahmanian

Don't Forget!

by G. Rahmanian on

Wow! Did you come up with this hypothesis all by yourself?


norooz

Don't forget! Taking side

by norooz on

Don't forget!

Taking side with those who sanction, is supporting sanctions.


G. Rahmanian

Why Are IR Supporters Bent Out Of Shape?

by G. Rahmanian on

In a country where a sixteen-year-old makes a nuclear bomb in the basement of her home and its technological advancements have been 11 times larger than those of all other countries put together, why can't they make simple passenger planes? They'd better hurry up and build them passenger planes before all the good Iranian genes are stolen by the west!


Jeesh Daram

But "Levy" was dry

by Jeesh Daram on

حالا گوش کینم به یک آهنگ برای آرامش اعصاب و روان.   مخلص همساده قدیم و آقای باوفا هم هستیم ، همیشه خندان باشید

 

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6uEjifqTaI&feature...

 


norooz

Look at these suckers. They

by norooz on

Look at these suckers. They bitch about freedom of speech in Iran and they delete my comment.


Escape

I wouldn't doubt some would jump w/o parachute

by Escape on

 It the responsibility of the parachutes was on the US's back.However it is not.Still if there is a chance that itiots would believe the parachutes are the fault of the US,they would jump.


Bavafa

Jeesh daram: how refreshing it was to read your comment :)

by Bavafa on

And I like to add that I agree with it 100%

But what I like to know, what were you thinking by getting into one of those planes to travel to Yazd. Russian rulet game can be less risky.

As a quick side note, I have a home made plane that I am rather proud of. So, one day I took my friends wife, who is rather new to the States, for a short flight. Later on, she was asked if she was scared flying in my plane in which she applied, this is a thousand times safer then typical Iranian planes, if you have ever flown in one. I happen to agree with her.

Mehrdad


Pahlevan

Islamist Incompetency

by Pahlevan on

Since its unfortunate inception in 1979, IRI has chanted "na sharghi, na gharbi, jomhoori eslami", "marg bar amrika" and "marg bar engelis". IRI supporters (barbaric Islamists) took American diplomats hostage for 444 days; their precious Imam (Khomeini the murderer) called America, "Sheytaan-e Bozorg" and said "Amrika hich ghalati nemitavanad bokonad", On top of all that IRI has been funding anti-American terrorist groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas for years! and after all those stupidities they expect the U.S. and the west to treat them nicely and sell them spare parts?? what a bunch of retarded hypocrites!

This incompetent regime and its aghabmaandeh supporters isolated Iran from the west and at the same time made Iran extremely dependent on wolves such as Russia and China who only want to exploit Iran and sell Iran their crap (or take the money for their crap and don't deliver it!) rather than being Iran's allies. One the other hand they have sided with anti-Iranian and backwarded Arabs against America and the west!! additionally these incompetent Islamists cannot build a simple airplane if their lives depended on it ... let alone building airplane spare parts!

The Islamofascist regime of Iran is probably the most dependent, incompetent and overall messed up government Iran has had for centuries! After 31 years of Islamism, Anti-Iranianism and
incompetency, IRI's legacy is that Iranian lives have become extremely cheap and foreign products have become extremely expensive! ... good job IRI lackeys!

 


Onlyiran

"norooz"

by Onlyiran on

"I don't have a problem with not selling us parts." 

I believe you!  This is because just like all other IRI supporting warmongers, you don't live in Iran.  You get on your safe Delta or American Airlines flights and go wherever you want safely.  So, you don't have a problem with the Iranian people being the sacrificial lambs for your idelogy.

"Afterall, it is a fight."

You're damn right.  BTW, when are you going to go to Iran to partake in the great "fight?"  The first rule of not being a hypocrite is doing onto yourself what you wish onto others.

PS- you are insane if you think that I support sanctions.  The only people who thrive on sanctions are the IRI, who have been using that tool for their survival for the past 31 years, and their mafia, who benefit from them financially.


hamsade ghadimi

جیش دارم، از

hamsade ghadimi


جیش دارم، از نوشته‌ت کاخم (یعنی‌ "کلی‌ از خنده مردم").  حالا نگفتی ماشین‌ها تو ایران به خصوص وانت‌ها یکی‌ درمیون بیمه‌ ابلفضل هستند.

نوروز، اول باید سوال کنی‌ تا ببینی‌ کسی‌ جواب داره یا نه.  ولی‌ خوب از تو نمیشه همچین توقعی داشت با این منطقت. من هیچوقت شهرستانی‌ها و دهاتی‌های شبیه تو رو در حرف زدن مسخره نمیکنم.  ولی‌ مثینکه (این لغت درست بود؟) تو حتی با اصطلاحات طیرونی (این چی‌؟) اشکال داری.  راستی‌ اون یکی‌ اسم یوزر آی دی‌ت (همونی که باهش مودبی) چیه؟ 

ولی‌ از همه چیز بیشتر این حماقت تو رو نشون میده که فکر میکنی‌ من و یا ایرانی‌ دیگری از مرگ هموطنانش خوشحالی میکنه.  بیشتر از دفاع کورکورانه‌ت در مورد بی‌عرضگی و بی‌عدالتی آخوندها و بسیجی‌ها و نظام خونخوار که مردم کشور من را تلف میکنند. 

 


Jeesh Daram

نیروی دعا

Jeesh Daram


همین چند تا هواپیما هم که هنوز توی ایران کار میکنند از برکت دعای اجباری قبل از پرواز است....زنک وا میسه اون جلو و با کمال وقاحت و بیشرمی از مردم میخواهد که برای سلامت جان رهبر دعا کنند........بعد وقتی همان مطلب را بانگلیسی میخواهد بیان کند خبری از التماس دعا نیست و فقط میخواهد که کمر بندها را ببندند و آرزوی سفر خوب و خوش 

بعد وارد فرودگاه یزد شدیم دیدیم بفارسی اون بالا نوشته اند "فرودگاه شهید دکتر مصطفی چمران" ولی زیر آن بانگلیسی نوشته است "یزد اینترنشنال ایرپرت" یعنی فرودگاه بین المللی یزد! آخه بگو جنده (وزیر ترابری) این چه ترجمه ایست که بناف ما بستی؟ وقاحت هم حدی دارد. یکمشت دزد چاپلوس کاسه لیس زمام امور را در دست دارند و از صبح تاشب کارشان و امورشان را با دعا راه میاندازند و بعد افتخار میکنند که در شهرها آخرین مدل اتومبیلها پیدا میشود.  صد رحمت به اتوبوسها که از همه امن تر است وگرنه تمام خرها را هم که طی این سالها سربریدند و کالباس کردند دادند دست مردم و با ماالشعیر رفتند بالا و یکدونه خر واسه دوا بخواهی دیگه گیر نمیاید. مشکل یکی دوتا که نیست. بعد هم اگر صدای کسی در بیاد میگن ما در شرایط بحران تحریم اقتصادی هستیم و نفاق راه نیاندازید  

 


norooz

onlyiran

by norooz on

I don't have a problem with not selling us parts. Afterall, it is a fight. I have problem with keeping the money and not giving the parts. I have problem with all the lies and acting as Mr. Nice Guy who is very saddened by such a tragedy.

As for, why Iran is not building the parts? You are right. They should build the parts themselves. I would think the reason is that they are focusing on building war planes and machines, not civilian planes, Of course, any plane has thousands of parts and even if they build it, since it is new, it will have it's problems until it is perfected and safe to carry passenger. But when a war plane crashes, the human casualties will be very limited. It is about risks and rewards. I am sure many engineers and technicians are working on it as many like you are supporting sanctions, kissing and vomiting.


SargordPirouz

OnlyIran

by SargordPirouz on

I thought we were talking about passenger planes and aircraft parts.

As to the production capabilities of the aircraft type you mention, I strongly recommend you source HESA, over that of the media such as FARS.

Just like I recommend you source IranAir or Mahan, over this Levey fellow and BBC Persian. 


Onlyiran

No, no, no, SP - wrong again

by Onlyiran on

According to the great leaders of the Islamic Republic, the manufacturing of the "Saegheh" fighter was completely indigenous and independent of all other countries.  It was entirely homemade (notwithstanding the fact that it looks completely like a F-5 with two tails--but let's leave that aside for the moment.)  So when it comes to your statement here:

 There were agreements made to manufacture certain Russian and Ukrainian types, but world politics seems to have interfered with such.

someone is lying.  Either the IRI does NOT have the capacity to independently manufacture fighter jets (or jets, period) or you're lying about these "agreements."  Surely, a glorious nation that has such a capacity for independently building fighter jets wouldn't stoop so low as to ask Ukraine for help in building aircraft.  What shame that would be for the great Islamic Republic. :-( 


Bavafa

Unfortunately, US

by Bavafa on

Unfortunately, US officials and their propaganda machine have ranked as high as IRI in credibility so I take this with the same grain (rock) of salt as when IRI brags about their shitcraft and other high tech manufacturing.

Mehrdad


SargordPirouz

OnlyIran

by SargordPirouz on

There were agreements made to manufacture certain Russian and Ukrainian types, but world politics seems to have interfered with such.

I don't think you're aware of the industrial base required to build large passenger airplanes. Even China doesn't yet have this full capacity. And obviously Iran doesn't have industrial base of China.

Iran is scheduled to put up another satellite launch next month. Let's see how that goes. 


Onlyiran

SP- even if what you say is true (which it's not)

by Onlyiran on

with IRI's vast experience in "manufacturing" aircraft such as "Saegheh" and space vehicles, why can't they just build passenger planes?  Surely, if they had started the process a decade ago--knowing then that they were not getting spare parts--they should have been able to roll out a few passenger different jets by now.  No?  

PS- please bear in mind that I do not believe a word of what IRI says about "manufacturing" planes or space rockets.  I'm just entertaining the whole fantasy for the sake of discussion. 


SargordPirouz

OnlyIran

by SargordPirouz on

Spare parts falls under the category of factory support. Having to manufacture specific aircraft parts is labor intensive, expensive and in some cases more difficult to achieve than the original process itself.

On a personal note, when the British motorcycle industry collapsed in the late 1970s, we British motorcycle riders endured conditions that were somewhat similar, having been cut off by factory support. Certain parts ran out and had to be remanufactured. They were seldom as good as the originals, causing increased maintenance (and this was in the US). Still, we kept 'em running, but it was an often painful and expensive process.

Aviation is another world from motorcycles. There are hundreds of thousands more parts. When one of 'em breaks down, you don't sputter off the road, you crash land or crash.

It's truly amazing Iranian technicians have been able to keep so many planes flying. A lot of Western experts predicted it couldn't be done.

Levey offers no details to back up his claim. But if aircraft parts are going to be provided, that is great news. Let's wait and see if more details are provided, or not as the case may be.


Onlyiran

A question for all IRI supporters

by Onlyiran on

OK - Tell me how this works: 

According to IRI supporters on this site, Iran under the IR builds, has built and will continue to build the following:

-Fighter planes (Saegheh);

-Space Rockets;

-Tanks;

-Helicopters;

-All kinds of missiles;

So, why in the world can it not build simple aircraft spare parts?  Why do you clowns have to cry about the Great Satan not selling you spare parts every time one of your planes falls out of the sky?  Or is just that all of your claims about building stuff is just propaganda and a bunch of lies?  Tell us, which one should we believe?  


hamsade ghadimi

هواپیما هفتهٔ

hamsade ghadimi


هواپیما هفتهٔ پیش سقوط کرد، این آقا گِلِه عهد شاه وزوزک رو میکنه.  تو از کجا میدونی‌ این جواب سوالهای تو رو نداره؟ آقا نوروز کسی‌ بهت نگفت ایران ابرقدرته؟  میخواد فضانورد بفرسته هوا؟  زیردریایی و هواپیما و موشک و ... و... میسازه.  بیخودی جوش لوازم یدکی سی‌ سال پیش رو نخور، شیرت خشک میشه.


aviator

which one ?

by aviator on

spare parts? new or old one ?!

if new US origin parts are permitted, why aren't new airplanes (just a big puzzle of new parts)?

when the elastic/life limit of the structure (fuselage, wings,...) is over, you replace the airplane, not the parts...