Hassan Abbasi

Why should Iran give aid to Hezbollah and Hamas

Wikipedia: Hassan Abbasi is an Iranian political analyst and strategist, the head of the Center for Doctrinal Analysis, an independent political strategic think-tank in the Islamic Republic. Abassi is a veteran of the Iran-Iraq war and lectures frequently at universities throughout Iran on various political topics >>>

05-Oct-2010
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Immortal Guard

Since you are such a fan of Hasan Abbasi!

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mash Ghanbar

nop

by mash Ghanbar on

sorry. I got the last post and i am sure VPK is preparing another "last post" :))

 


Immortal Guard

Veiled prophet of khorasan!

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Why is it that when anybody criticizes the Jews you become so self-defensive. When I talk about the Jews I mean only their ruling class but I consciously lump them all together. The reason is that based on my experience all the Jews always toe the same line. It is obvious that somehow a certain script or guideline is being implicitly passed down the line and they all follow it.

Now this can be due to a variety of reasons:

  1. The proverbial Jewish solidarity where they want to present a united front under all circumstances and don't want any crack to appear in their wall of solidarity;
  2. They really don't have a clue themselves and they are just repeating what their elders or experts say which must be right;
  3. They do understand the issues but don't want to betray their knowledge and insight because it might give away too much. Thus they prefer their secretive nature;
  4. They are hypocrites. What is annoying is that at times they even adopt a self-righteous attitude.

Now if you are a friend of the Jews you should welcome any constructive criticism which might serve them well instead of nipping it in the bud.

I admire the Jews because of their solidarity and its practical aspects. I also admire their solidarity because in my view God rewards those who are kind to their like and take care of their like. But there are several aspects of that excessive solidarity that annoys me:

  1. The blind solidarity. This happens when the Jews take the side of another Jew under most circumstances.without any objectivity. This kind of solidarity - excuse the language - is a kind of "nigger" solidarity. An example for me is when I witnessed most Jewish classmates talk highly of Baruch Goldstein and hail him as a hero.
  2. They tend to discriminate too much in their own favour. When you discriminate too much in favour of your own kind you end up displacing others and refusing them equal access. In other words too much active discrimination in one's favour ends up as passive discrimination against others. For example quotas for certain university programs.
  3. They commiserate too much with their own kind which unconsciously heightens the perception of their own concerns and diminishes their perception of other people's concerns and even might serve to demonize others.
  4. The fact that they refer to themselves as God's Chosen People and refer to non-Jews as Goyim. Honestly I would have expected much more from God's Chosen People. They should have strived to elevate friends and not to undermine and sleaze them.
Maybe I am too idealistic and hair-splitting! So stop automatically vilifying anybody as soon as they take issue with certain policies and practices of Jewry at large! Not everybody that criticizes them is a skinhead or an Islamist! The Jews themselves are unfortunately because of their history used to negative attention. They cannot bring themselves to think that a non-Jew may have positive disposition towards them. I hope I got the last post! Hew!

mash Ghanbar

Muy gracias

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VPK

Thank you for the compliment.

bparhami

Does using "bparhami" qualify as disclosing your full identity?


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Mr Parhami

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Why are we Iranians scared of speaking our minds?

Now let me think.

  • Getting put in jail when we go back to Iran.
  • Having our family in Iran harrassed and worse.
  • Having our property in Iran confiscated.
  • Being called "mohareb" and executed.

We have our nation occupited by a military dictatorship. I for one will not risk my family back in Iran. Nor will I stay quiet. So that leaves me with the choice of using a pseudo name.


bparhami

Why are we Iranians scared of speaking our minds?

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Going over all the comments on this post, I noticed that there are only a couple of comments from people with real (or at least real-sounding) names. We won't make much progress if we continue to hide behind screen names when discussing controversial subjects.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

One voice?

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IG khan, there are many voices here with many different points of view. Your positions are reflected by many: SP, Amir; yourself and others. Mostly obnoxious Islam first Jew haters.

There are also sane Muslim voices like Mash Ghanbar. I disagree with him often but I respect him because he seems like a good person. 

And there are voices that are in line with mine. So what.

Regarding the last word: do not count on it. These threads go on forever. There was one that so outlived its "sell by" date that it was stinking up the whole IC.


mash Ghanbar

Immortal

by mash Ghanbar on

excuse me there Mister But it is you and your friends who make a a big to do about assymetric and unconventional warfare and portray that as the most crucial means to face the intruders , and Not anyone else!!!!

Remember just a while back how proudly you spoke about such tactics???


Immortal Guard

Taa Boodeh!

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Well good thing is that you are a realist! It is okay then to thrive on on other people's misery! You know after WWII when the Americans occupied part of Germany and got their hands on their aviation test data the aviation industry made a huge quantum jump! You know why? Well they tested on actual humans. For instance, they put human beings in pressure chambers and then increased the pressure to the point where their skulls burst! Well one could argue that those tests made humanity make lots of progress very fast! But hey I don't think the Germans carried out those experiments on themselves! What do you think?

You talk idealist and act non-idealist.

I'd rather talk half-idealist and act half-idealist!

It all depends where you draw the line.

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For me if you are caught between a rock and a hard place then if you sense the momentum is on your side then seize it and dislodge the rock first!


Cost-of-Progress

گارد جاویدان،

Cost-of-Progress


آقای گارد جاویدان، اگر پارسی بلدی بخون:
تا بوده یکی از یکی استفاده میکرده - درست است که غرب از شرق، یا بهتر گفته بشه، آنهایی که بیشتر خودشون دشمنه خودشون هستند سوء استفاده میکنه، ولی تا کسی سواری میده اون کسی که سواری میخواهد میگیره. برای من مهم نیست که شما ها چه کسی رو سرزنش میکنید، برای اینکه میدونم که همه تقصیر دارن غیر از خودمون.....ما ایرونی ها همیشه مقتول هستیم، همیشه بهمون غرب و اینگلیس ظلم کرده، ولی از همه بدتر خودمون هستیم. فقط کلک و حقه بازی بلدیم به همدیگه بزنیم، و تا چیزی میشه، دیگران را سرزنش میکنیم. حالا این چند وقته که آخوند ها اومدن تبلی ضده صیهونیستی را به سینه میزنن که بله ما کاسه داغ تر از اش هستیم. اون وقت ۳۰ ساله که خون مردم را به شیشه کردن . شاید شما از آخوند طرف داری نکنی، ولی از کارشون داری طرفداری میکنی.

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IRAN FIRST

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Immortal Guard

Let me have the last post!

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At least have the decency to let me have the last post!

You guys always try to drown the voice of others! For every post of mine I get slammed by several posts of yours. I mean putting aside your baseless ramblings your actions even speak louder!

As far as Islam is concerned I don't know much about it.  It was just another topic in my study of humanities! Islam right now just happens to be a convenient enemy image for the West. Yesterday it was Communism and the Red Scare and McCarthysim and now it is Islamism. And don't mix up Islam with Islamism! Yesterday it was the Cold War and MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) now it is Asymmetric Warfare and Islamic Terrorism!

I mean something has got that military-industrial complex in the US going and the people working in the arms industry have got to feel good about themselves. Don't they? And of course you can contribute to that as well by your Islam-bashing! The problem with Zion is that it is a formidable but insecure power! One can bait it by baiting its insecurity!

George Carlin:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDkhzHQO7jY

Johnny got his gun:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiAr6aWww9o

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun

Now come on guys gang up on me and make several blitzposts! You make my day!


Cost-of-Progress

Take it easy Guard, I like Aladdin

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and why immoral?

I actually liked Aladdin, it was funny. I still have the old VHS that I bought for my kids when they were young.

Dude, this zion this and zion that is really old. You folks need to start caring about your own native land and leave the hatered of others to the masters: The Institution of Religion, be it whatever religion happens to steal the day.

Wink and a nod....

CoP

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IRAN FIRST

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Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Immoral Guard

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

You are a Jew hating Islamist: neither new nor original. There are many like you; the fruit of Islam. Proof of its moral bankruptcy. COP is worth more than all of your type put together. But please be my guest and show the world what Islamists are really like. Just follow your leader AN and prove you are all a bunch of racist antisemitic group.

Now I have known this for decades. But when I tell others what Islamists are many Americans don't believe me. They do not believe how low a human really may sink. Your posts are great for me to show Americans the real Islam.

  • Please go on,
  • Keep up the great work man!
  • Show us the face of Islm.

Immortal Guard

Cost-of-advanzment

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Making condescending remarks and emotional outbursts are the hallmarks of Zion-supporters like you!

Go watch and enjoy your Aladdin cartoon and help make movies like "Not Without My Daughter" and "300"! And don't forget to have lunch with Omar Sharif! See whether you can sell Omar Sharif's cigarettes in Iran and support Zion:

//www.cigarettespedia.com/index.php/Omar_Shar...


Cost-of-Progress

Rambling.....

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incoherent rambling..... is the 1st sign...seek help, fast!

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IRAN FIRST

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Immortal Guard

A Jew cares only about a Jew!

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For a Jew we are no more than another Goyim. They don't make any difference between Goyims. Good Goyim or bad Goyim is the same s**t for them in different package!

They thought that they had transformed the Arab-Israeli conflict into Arab-Persian conflict. Now the reality on the ground is quite different! At least Persians and Arabs on the surface share the same kind of religion.

I don't know of any Palestinian Iranians but I knew of many Jewish Iranians and none of them gives a damn about Iran.

Plus I never took the side of Palestinians or even supported them. The peace the Israelis are enjoying right now with Egypt is a Persian gift. Go and please your Omar Sharif you Israeli Arab lover who doesn't have the b***s to fight the Arabs! Go make movies in your Jewish Hollywood lavishing love on your Egyptian and Arab friends. Go watch your Aladdin (Arab name) cartoons.

Right now Persians dominate Arabs whether in Palestine, Iraq or Lebanon. And the Persians fought the Arabs for 8 years. You on the other hand always call them Arab moderates!

You go and advertise on the Iranian satellite channels in LA so they go and spend their vacations in Egypt and spend money on the Egyptian economy!


Cost-of-Progress

Typical MO

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As soon as there's light on the horiozn, the apologists of the only kind, those who embrace the embracers of their agressors wake up to call those who oppose them zionists and israeli lobby.

Give it up babaa, that crap's gotten old. 

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IRAN FIRST

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Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

People

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Iranians are poor and getting poorer. Meanwhile the IRI Mollahs steal the money. They give it away to the Palestinians and put the rest in their Swiss banks. This was the gift of Jimmy Carter and Ali Shariati.

Now the Iranians outside ore prospering because they don't have IRI. They do not need to liver under a bunch of throwbacks. "Immortal" BS you are wrong people do need money to take care of their families. It does measure happiness.

PS,

You IRI groupies should stop using Persian names. Use Arab names since that is you.


Escape

No for you Palestine comes first

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Obviously you're a Palestine lover,your grossly exaggerated words are in the defense of Palestine.Can you comprehend that much?

You overlook the interest Iran has in Isreal until it comes to critizing that interest which you can't calculate.

You think Iran's interest is in Palestine.

This is who you,and finally,

Do you see any Palestinians swarming any Iranian sites?

I DO!!  YOU!!!!!!


Immortal Guard

"Escape" to Israel!

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For me Iran comes first! You on other hand are an Iranian Jew taking the side of Israel. I don't care who rules Iran.

Jews perfected terrorist warfare techniques and are the most sophisticated terrorists in the world. That's how they can keep their ownership of half the US. Of course you would never expect the Jewish media in the US to point their fingers at Jewish terrorism or for that matter at their war crimes. Would you?

Just because you have a big loudspeaker called the media does not mean you are right. Just because you swarm our site under different blog names does not mean you represent Iranians!

Go to www.israeli.com

Do you see Iranians swarming any Israeli sites!

Sharmo hayaa ham khoob chizi vaalaa! A bunch of Jewish Iranian Zionists have become suddenly Iran-lovers!


Escape

Immortal (but reality says your dead in 40 years from now)

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  I see you think it's being a coward 'scapegoating Iran' after your imply the warfare of a coward : 'asymmetric warfare and/or guerilla/terrorist tactics'. So sense and reason most likely won't be found and your quite foolish to believe that Isreal cannot engage of propelling the same cowardice warfare across the Islamic world because it is so 'big'..Quite the less my brainy friend as a spread out civilous population is FAR more susceptable to the COWARDICE TACTICS OF IRAN called Terrorism if Isreal choose to engage and it is enclosed in a fortress..You are the reason Gaza is closed,you are the reason there is a WALL across Egypt.The only dangerous reversal of reality has been your logic. Why don't you BUTT OUT like the Pal's have asked you to? Peace for Isreal and Palestine.


Kaaveh_Aahangar

وجود الکل در

Kaaveh_Aahangar



Immortal Guard

Escape!

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What you are describing is just an escalation. With the hostage-taking of the American embassy staff the tactics of fighting fire with fire already started. Any escalation on part of one adversary will necessarily elicit at least a proportionate response on the part of the other.

Israel is unable to engage in a spatially widespread and temporally sustained asymmetric warfare because of the size of the Islamic world. But because Israel's population is concentrated within a small area then it is indeed far more vulnerable. Whereby the world of Islam in general can sustain huge losses Israel is unable to sustain an intensification of the asymmetric warfare and/or guerilla/terrorist tactics. It will end up just retreating more and more within its shell.

And I think taking it out all on Iranians is just the evident hallmark of not being just a loser but also a coward! Meaning not having the stomach to fess up to one's mistakes. This is like treating Iran as a scapegoat when the momentum is on your side and then wanting it as a shoulder to cry on if the momentum dangerously reverses!


Escape

Imagine Iran got it's own medicene

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 There would be a proxie war on Iran with suicide bombers,Iran would not be accepted as a legitimate country but a mere occupation.100 tons of Bombs would have gone off across Iran with hundreds of thousands of dead Iranians.Islam would be banned and practicing it one would be considered as a Enemy of God and tortured,killed for practicing Islam.Everything Iran had to say or speak of would be answered with a LIE. Everytime something happened of a negative nature it would be blamed onto IRAN.Thousands would go out in the streets and chant - DEATH TO IRAN every single day and evening,especially fridays.Posters would put up across every single town Martyring people who blew up Iranians into little bits and pieces.You would recieve 1000$ for killing a Iranian solider and 5000$ for destroying a Iranian Military Vehicle.Iranians would be worried every second that someone was going to blow up the bus or train they are on or the building they are in..

Proxie war is WAR.

Yea just imagine if Iran recieved it's own treatment.Because someday it may be..


mash Ghanbar

IG

by mash Ghanbar on

LOL.

Talking to yourself ha? :))

I don't have to oGhahr when i come across nonsense. All the stories about the spirit of resistance... All that does not mean a thing. You are the one who needs to stop believing and deluding yourself with this fancifull tale you have created and masterminded.

The sooner you do it, the faster we will be on our road to recovery.


Immortal Guard

Mash ghanbar - Daie Jaan Napoleon!

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Haalaa ghahr nakon, ghoseh ham nakhor!

Be gholeh mash ghaasem, doroogh cheraa, taa ghabr aah, aah, aah, aah!


mash Ghanbar

Immortal Guard

by mash Ghanbar on

You and Your another angle pieces:)) you should have Jon stewart/ chris rock  have a look at them

LOL.

Peace pal.


No Fear

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aynak

Abbasi is a deranged hypocrite

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Abbasi used to complain about Iranian girls being sold in Dubai under Khatami, but I have not heard him say anything post Ahmadi Nejad.  Abbasi, are Iranian girls no longer doing prostitution in Dubai, or is it ok now?   Abasi also said nothing about the  rape of Iranian men/women in prisons post election.   Abbasi never complained about the rampant corruption instigated by Khamanee.   Where does all the money to Bayt Rahbari go to?  That is basically like a ransom, on purchase of cars and other items, to be paid to Rahbar.

But as for Palestine.

Abasi, does not say if Iran did not make statements (from Khomanee time) that Israel should not exist, or the road to Jeruslem is through Baghdad, and all the way to now when Ahmadi Nejad makes his stupid remarks, Israel should not view Iran as any more of a threat than Turkey.

Abasi proves that Islamic Regimes concern for the plight of Palestinian people is not based on justice but using them as pawns.   Of course people who know the brutal nature of Islamic Regime, one that does not have mercy on its own people, how can it have any moral authority to defend the rights of Palestinian people?   Of course not.  But Abbasi's statements is a proof, that they are simply using this injustice for their own political gain.

Of course the apartheid state of Israel, and Islamic regime are two brutal regimes in the region that complete each others destructive policies.  One can not live without the other.    By their barbaric policies, Israel puts the Palestinians in such a desperate situation that they have to seek anyones help who is willing to extend a hand.   If you were drawning and somone threw you a rope, would you ask if they had criminal past?

The biggest problem though with Abasi is, he is a sick individual whose main issue is to fight for the sake of fighting.

The proof is, (and he thinks he is intelligent) but he never says anything about brain drain.    But he is glorifying suicide by ignorant people.  So his aim is not focused on construction but destruction.   His goal is not to defend Iran to make it as good as it can be, but use it to destroy his enemy at the cost of destroying Iran.  

Islamic Regime constantly brags about independence, but where is this independence ever experienced?   In better standard of living?  In freedom? In better condition for people?  In forcing its best and brightest to flee? In making Iran great?    So what is it Abasi trying to preserve but death and destruction, and that is the doctrine of Abasi.


Immortal Guard

Another angle....

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Actually I didn't want to write this last post since I didn't want this to evolve into a shouting match or answering back (javab pas daadan).

If the guy who is selling you the big sophisticated gun for 1000 box and he himself is taking advantage of your nightblindness to poke you with a stick costing only 1 box then he is basically robbing you. If your name is Robert then that's particlularly annoying! (Lajet dar miyaad va hesaabi "ziret" misoozeh)