The Real Race for Iran

Human rights vs. Tehran's defenders

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The Real Race for Iran
by Josh Shahryar
28-Jun-2010
 

Since Iran was thrust into internal turmoil by last year's election, the world has been moved by events that unfolded during the protests of the Green Movement. As we watched the violence of the agents of the Iranian government against peaceful demonstrators, most of us thought that it would be impossible to defend the regime's position amidst the bloodshed we witnessed on our TV screens.

Not so. The Iranian Government, despite all the detentions, abuses, and unlawful killings since June 2009, still has support overseas in the guise of purportedly unbiased political analysts, none more vocal than that of the authors of Race for Iran, one a former CIA and National Security Council official, the other a former diplomat in the State Department.

Their solution to the human rights abuse issue? Pretend it is not relevant. Arrests, torture, rape, and the murder of protesters are set aside.

The testament to how far they can go in defending an indefensible position? Consider the lengthy response of RFI's authors to "Misreading Tehran", a series of seven articles published on the Foreign Policy website.

In this article, the duo close their eyes to all other internal matter to declare that the 2009 Presidential election is legitimate, simply because the opposition has allegedly not provided any evidence to back up claims of fraud. Thus, the vote for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad must be free and fair.

If we were to accept this argument, then every election under Suharto in Indonesia was free and fair. Every election held in Islam Karimov's Uzbekistan is free, as is every vote held in Cuba under Fidel Castro. Robert Mugabe is the rightful ruler of Zimbabwe. If stolen or "created" ballots cannot be exhibited, the result is not only legal but legitimate.

Under this "legitimate" Iranian Government, freedom of speech is severely curtailed. Newspapers are regularly banned, journalists regularly imprisoned. Candidates for elections are screened by the establishment, and only those passing the Guardian Council's ideological tests are allowed to run. There are hundreds -- perhaps thousands -- of political prisoners suffering in Iran's jails. Under such harsh conditions, it is a distortion -- a dishonorable distortion -- to say that elections in Iran can be free, fair and honest.

If that were not enough, high-ranking clerics -- from within Iran's own establishment -- came forward and decried the elections as fraudulent. Grand Ayatollah Bayat-Zanjani was quoted, "Every healthy mind casts doubt on the way the election was held." Ayatollah Jalaleddin Taheri called the re-election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "illegitimate" and "tyrannical." Perhaps the most revered cleric after Khamenei, Grand Ayatollah Lotfullah Safi Golpayegani called the results "a grand lie." Their voices were silenced by the media blackout, with Western journalists unaware of their clout within Iran's government and society.

But to RFI's authors, it is beyond consideration that Iran's leadership is a brutal regime hell-bent on keeping itself in power. They dismiss that people from within Iran's establishment question the legitimacy of the election. To them, an inquiry can only be considered if the Green Movement takes up arms, fights the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, confiscates all the ballot boxes from the election through force of arms and then counts them somewhere in Europe in front of international media. Only then, will 'healthy" minds accept fraud.

Yet there is a somewhat tortured twist in RFI's line, illustrated in the article in Foreign Policy. Having declared -- following the sudden execution of five Iranians on 9 May -- that the consideration of human rights was beyond their agenda, the authors resurrect two months-old "studies" of the 2009 election to establish that the political and civil rights of Iranians were respected and defended.

Doing so, they hold up a cracked mirror with RFI's reflection of post-election Iran: one of the purported reports on the election is by little-known "analysts" who have also suggested that Neda Agha Soltan, killed during the protests of 20 June 2009, was slain by agents of "the West":

It is inconceivable that an Islamic regime which understands the power of martyrdom in its own culture would sanction the cold-blooded murder of an innocent and ordinary young woman on the streets of Tehran. However it is every bit conceivable that those who thought the opposition movement needed a symbol and icon of resistance -- recipients and supporters no doubt of a $400m CIA-backed destabilization program for Iran -- would have arranged this horrible murder and try and pin it on the Iranian authorities.)

If RFI's authors claim that rights have no place in their forum, why resurrect a long-surpassed and rather creaky case for a proper vote on 12 June 2009?

In part, it is a necessary tactic to support the authors' main objective, which is to promote US-Iran discussions on important regional and global issues. Putting forth that case requires the notion that President Ahmadinejad can be engaged because he has a legitimate position.

More importantly, though, the tactic is a deflection. The Green Movement and civil rights organizations inside Iran long ago moved beyond contesting the elections to the campaign for a political, social, economic, and religious system that upholds rather than abuses its citizens' rights. Mir Hossein Mousavi has released several statements in recent months emphasizing that the Green Movement needs to firm up its ties with the Iranian populace to spread the message of change and to ensure that the Islamic Republic fulfills the rights set out in its Constitution.

Iran's Government is unable to address these issues, but they are also unable to prevent their consideration. It has persisted in arresting people who protest brutality and human rights abuses, but the challenge continues. It has tried to penetrate the ranks of the Green Movement, but it cannot prevent activists from interacting with disgruntled Iranians who have been affected. It has pursued the alternative of proclaiming Iran's exalted international position, but that distraction cannot be sustained when headlines are re-claimed by the heckling of Ayatollah Khomeini's grandson and the attacks on Iran's most esteemed clerics.

So the solution is sought by Tehran's defenders: while announcing that rights do not matter, revive the notion of the "legitimate" rule -- with the implication that legitimacy confers the authority to pursue any and all acts in the name of the Iranian state -- established by the 2009 election.

The problem for this defense is that rights will not go away. Those who bravely persist in the face of repression are emphasizing human rights and democracy more than ever. Ten days ago, Iranians who marched in Tehran were not heard chanting, "Where is My Vote?"; amidst the calls of God is Great, they were demanding that their rights -- as Iranians and as human beings -- be affirmed by their Government and by their Supreme Leader.

An objective analysis worthy of the label would question why the Iranian government fills the countries streets with security forces if it is stable and loved by its people. It would investigate why foreign media is effectively banned and why dozens of Iran's journalists are in jail, barred from working, or under threat of punishment if they dare to write. It would at least raise a quizzical eyebrow at the scores who are on death row and the hundreds more behind bars or on heavy bail simply because they voiced their opposition to the regime.

But that analysis would be tantamount to a questioning of legitimacy. And there the authors of RFI meet their self-imposed limit. They have shackled themselves even more effectively than the Government which they defend has shackled its people.

If there is a Race for Iran, those who defend the regime -- in the name of the irrelevancy of human rights -- can only stand still, stamping their feet loudly that there is no alternative. And in that race, it is the alternative which -- while hobbled by intimidation, restricted by suppression, hindered by punishment -- continues to move forward towards its goals.

First published in HuffingtonPost.com.

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Josh Shahryar is a Journalist and Human Rights Activist. Follow him on Twitter: www.twitter.com/JShahryar

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Cost-of-Progress

How do you say shameless

by Cost-of-Progress on Mon Jun 28, 2010 05:44 PM PDT

in arabic?

"If Amir wants to be a hero, he should go to Iran and take his chances with the government. If he is sent to Evin and raped and tortured for his politics then I will have respect for him."


Wow....so you make no bones about doing these atrocities to those who may disagree with you and the occupiers you support.

So much for the fake peace-loving mumbo jumbo and the associated doctrine. The audacity is unbelievable.

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IRAN FIRST

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Rosie.

Is Iran Muslim? (and Shah)

by Rosie. on Mon Jun 28, 2010 05:44 PM PDT

I know Masoud may also be wrong with his figures . But I also know I read in reliable books that the Shah's army fired into at least one crowd.

Islamism = brainwash

Some anti-Islamism here = whitewash

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Eroonman: I think you are right about the strong Mazdaist base in Iranian Shiism. But Shiism is still Islam.

Is Iran Muslim country? Weeell, I think that at the time of the 'Revolution' Iran was overwhelmingly a Muslim country. But I also think it is impossible to determine the extent now because IslamISM made a lot of people sick of Islam, but they cannot say they have renounced or converted, because it is apostasy, (technically) punishable by.... I believe there has been a (covert) Mazdaist revival, as well as interest in Buddhism and yogic Hinduism. Etc. including no doubt atheism.

Eroonman, you wrote:

I keep having this recurring dream where I am on a trifecta pilgrimage from Jerusalem to Mecca to Nirvana, and I stop at this roadside diner. God is the short order cook, Mohammad, Jesus, and Buddha are waiting tables.

Maybe you are a Bahai and you don't know it yet! I think they are all recognized as prophets. You should ask a Bahai. Any Bahai out there?What do you think about all this? Or are you still on all the Bahai threads? Do you eat bacon?

 

 


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benross

It is time to get over the

by benross on Mon Jun 28, 2010 05:31 PM PDT

It is time to get over the Revolution of 79 and accept that the Islamic Republic is here to stay and that your communist-atheist-anarchist-apostate-kooni goals are futile. The "green revolution" never had great support and has now completely faded out.

For someone who just joined IC six hours ago, you put too much in one paragraph. What's the hurry?!

I'm beginning to believe you are right. Let's run a free referendum and as you said 'get over the revolution of 79'.

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Yousef Bozorgmehr

I don't make excuses for my beliefs

by Yousef Bozorgmehr on Mon Jun 28, 2010 05:22 PM PDT

 

I am not going to use mardaki language as No Fear wants me to.

I agree with him, however, that the 14 million Iranians who voted against Ahmadinejad have legitimate demands and rights - but not the rioters behind the sedition who desecrated Ashura and Qods day.

I have nothing but contempt for the "political activists" like Amir who go cap in hand to Reza Pahlavi, the NED, the CIA or whoever will support them in their perverse, deluded and treacherous schemes.

If Amir wants to be a hero, he should go to Iran and take his chances with the government. If he is sent to Evin and raped and tortured for his politics then I will have respect for him.


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eroonman

Technically, Iran IS a moslem country...

by eroonman on Mon Jun 28, 2010 05:12 PM PDT

Culturally speaking though, we are not.

The greater evidence of the historical record however, shows that for the most part, for the unarguable (so don't even try!) greater most part, Iran or Persia have NOT been moslem. Even the choice of Shiite moslem vs the more established and formally organized Sunni, is a sign of objection to the common greater eslam.

As a political system Iran has ONLY been moslem for the past 30 years, and that was NEVER included in the referendum from which this regime so often takes it's license to govern. The proof is the ferocity and violence with which it protects it's "veiled" authority.

This is nothing more than oppression masked by religion and threats of the hereafter, backed up by threats, intimidation, and real bodily harm in the here and now.

If your post actually suggests that Iranians willingly choose eslam, then you only make my point and like all of us are understandably deluded. Which is nothing to be ashamed about. Religion offers those who need it, a valid solace and peace in a wild world.

Choosing religion as a governance system however, is not the same as choosing freedom as a governance system. It takes a lot of courage and confidence to defer to a system that is in continuous change. Democracy and freedom based governance is blessedly devoid of the feigned certainty and predictability of the qoran's edict on questions that arise in life. You could say living a moslem life in which every ounce of uncertainty is instantly answered with an unquestionable answer, is invariably boring.

Almost oppressively so.

In the end, freedom and democracy trump religion precisely because they are willing to change.

A religion that sticks fervently to the notion that in the eyes of God, women are tacitly less than men, and that eating certain kinds of food are a sin, certainly has to count it's days. Because in an iPhone world, they are certainly numbered.

Since you are defending eslam's goal line, if I butcher a pig according to halal rules, is my ham sandwich legal?

And what about bacon?

Because I keep having this recurring dream where I am on a trifecta pilgrimage from Jerusalem to Mecca to Nirvana, and I stop at this roadside diner. God is the short order cook, Mohammad, Jesus, and Buddha are waiting tables. I ask what's good on the menu and Mohammad suggests the lamb, while Jesus suggest the fish, Buddha asks me what I think I should order. Then Satan, who is a customer sitting at the counter turns to me and says, "why not try the bacon?"


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Rosie.

Weeell.....for what it's worth, I think that...

by Rosie. on Mon Jun 28, 2010 04:53 PM PDT

Yousef is right that the Shah suppressed (much smaller) crowds more brutally than those of the Tehran Uprising.

ttp://iranian.com/main/comment/reply/110185/304940

 

Yousef may have pulled the figure of 60,000 total dead under the Shah out of some hat.

He is wrong that he is not a paid agent. Every single person here is a paid agent the moment they set foot in these hallowed halls. This is a fact.

He is wrong that homosexuals are against Ahmadinejad. There are no you know what you know where.

He is wrong that the Islamic Republic will last til the end of time. Good things don't last forever. Javani told me so. (my post below).

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No Fear welcomes Yousef, lectures him on his tone, and congratulates him on all his 'irrefutable' arguments. I am glad. No Fear, maybe now you will realize you are also a Fundamentalist, gay basher, and Emily Post, and up til now have been lying to yourself. :o) (And I do mean the :o) seriously).

Eroonman is right that every Iranian is deluded. Except that every human is deluded. But that's still no excuse.

Yousef quotes:

"Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood
perished: for Falsehood is bound to perish." [Qur'an
17:81] 

 

(Original quote attributed to Eroonman)

 


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Yousef Bozorgmehr

Amir the propagandist (shahi or not)

by Yousef Bozorgmehr on Mon Jun 28, 2010 04:48 PM PDT

 

"untermensch" is a term coined by Nietzsche to describe a morally inferior person - the Nazis applied it as a racial term for non-Aryans.

But you wouldn't know that because your knowledge of philosophy is non-existent. All you know are slogans like "rape-ocracy".

You keep crying "RAPE!" Where are the victims of the rape you and your akhond friend Karroubi are talking about? Where are the broken rectums of all these raped people? The Majlis investigated Kahrizak and found evidence of abuse there, but also examined this rape issue and found it all to be exaggerated or plain fabrication.

The number killed over the course of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi's reign of terror is 60,000  - many more were maimed and subsequently died due to their psychological trauma from torture.

Compare this with your "Baharestan square massacre" of last year - the one that never happened - it was just pure misinformation put out to CNN by the propagangsters of the green movement.


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Sargord Pirouz

Amir, your comments sound a

by Sargord Pirouz on Mon Jun 28, 2010 04:30 PM PDT

Amir, your comments sound a lot like Ted Kaczynski.

Tone down the emotion, man!

Discuss, don't shout down. And stop all the name calling. All of this only serves to undermine your arguments. 


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AMIR1973

Dear Islamo-Nazi

by AMIR1973 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 04:22 PM PDT

Your use of the world "untermenschen" clearly marks you as a Nazi of the Islamist Rapist variety (if there was ever any doubt). On the other hand, I support a democratic republic for Iran, not a monarchy nor an Islamist Rape-ocracy. The figure of just over 3000 killed from 1963-1979 is from the Rapists' own Emadeddin Baghi of IRI's Martyrs Foundation. The Rapists lied and claimed that 15,000 were killed and injured in Jaleh Square!!! 15,000. Just like the lie that Israeli soldiers were in Jaleh Square. Just like the lie that SAVAK burned Cinema Rex. Just like all the other Rapist lies that Khomeini told when he was under the protection of the French government in Neuphle-le-Chateau about the clergy staying out of politics, women having equal rights, etc. Just like the Rapists' photoshopping their North Korea-derived junk missiles to show more missiles launching. Just like the Rapists' repackaging U.S. Airforce planes from the 1960s and caliing them the Saeqeh advanced fighter jet. Just like your lies about Neda being killed by CIA, MI6, Mossad, etc. Who would believe an Islamist Rapist after more than 30 years of lies? Iranians no longer believe Rapist Lies after the most deadly and disastrous 31 years in Iranian history.

 

Every single word that comes out of the mouth of an Islamist is a lie. Every single word. 


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Yousef Bozorgmehr

Iran IS a Muslim country

by Yousef Bozorgmehr on Mon Jun 28, 2010 04:21 PM PDT

 

How can Iran not be a Muslim country when it is the centre of Shia Islam and when most (real) Iranians are devout believers?

I think some people here think Iran has to choose between Islam and "Persianness". They believe that Islam is "alien" to Iranian culture , when it is the lifeblood of it. This does not exclude the great influence of  Iran's rich pre-Islamic Zoroastrian heritage and which too ,remains very much a force.

But don't delude yourself into thinking Iran is not part of the Islamic world - it contributed massively to Islamic civilization and still does. How can you read Hafez or Mowlana and ignore all the references to Qur'an and Sunnah?

Man bandeh-ye qur'ānam, agar jān dāram
man khāk-e rah-e muhammad-e mokhtāram
agar naql konad joz īn kas az goftāram
bēzāram azō vaz-īn sokhan bēzāram  (Rumi)

Outside of the likes of Shemiran and Los Angeles, Iranian communities are just as Muslim as you would find in Turkey, Pakistan, Bosnia , Egypt etc..


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eroonman

Every Iranian is deluded...

by eroonman on Mon Jun 28, 2010 04:05 PM PDT

Imposing a misleading belief upon someone...

The IRI is trying to delude everyone into thinking that Iran is actually a moslem country.

We are not.

The Shah tried to delude everyone into thinking that Iran is a western european country.

We are not.

The western media and Iranian Diaspora tried to paint the Green movement as a legitimate second revolution.

It is not.

The fact is, that Iran as an organically changing entity is trying something out right now. The socio-political expression of religion being the foremost experiment these past 30 years. Granted, it is failing at every level. Social order has all but collapsed, immorality (drug use, prostitution, screw your fellow man every chance you get, lying) is at an all time high, and the definition of "Iranian Identity" is completely clouded.

Deciding what we want to be in a world of confusion, is a long process that requires commitment. And as Iranians we, like the rest of the world, all too often want "it" now. When we don't get what we want, we put it aside and move onto thinking about ourselves and our families and work and personal accomplishment and wealth, leaving the "movement" on the side of the road until the next wave of interest and enthusiasm hits.

How many of us living in diaspora (including Reza Pahlavi) would put aside our "lives" to go to Iran, and organize an objection to the current experiment? OK that one is easy. Now ask yourself, how many would put aside their lives and organize an objection from the safety of here? 

Exactly! For the most part Iranian activism towards the betterment of Iran is nothing more than a hobby to most Iranians. Including especially, the Iranians inside Iran.

Our continual naive hope as we look to yet more leadership (did anyone actually think Mousavi was our savior?) to lead us from one oppressive regime to another, for the past 2500 years is proof positive we are stuck in a cycle of delusion.

Only when we break this cycle with a 110% commitment to a patient persistent, immovable progressive movement, will we ever be free.


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Yousef Bozorgmehr

Amir shahparast

by Yousef Bozorgmehr on Mon Jun 28, 2010 03:39 PM PDT

 

I see we have an apologist for the Shah's regime. Where did you get this figure of 3000 from? Wikipedia?

During the height of the revolution, the Shah was killing 100 people EVERY DAY. My father saw the soldiers shoot live ammo into the crowds of unarmed demonstrators again and again and again. The Shahanshah Aryamehr was directing the whole massacre above in his helicopter.

If you read his book, he details the clerics, Tudeh activists, Kurds, military men, workers, writers and artists who were taken to jail by SAVAK and shot in the head in secret during the middle of the night - The Shah didn't want to publicise his repression.

You chose the wrong person to dispute the brutality and depravity of the Pahlavi regime - my family witnessed it directly.You did not.

I wish you lot would remember this before you start ranting on about baseejis and how "horrible" these dahahtis are.


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AMIR1973

Spoken like a true Islamo-Nazi

by AMIR1973 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 03:33 PM PDT

I dare say many of the media allowing you access to their sites are homosexuals, atheists and other untermenschen

Can it be any clearer that Iran needs de-Islamistization just like Germany was de-Nazified? Is there any doubt that we are dealing with Islamo-Nazis here, whether of the thuggish Khamenei-Ahmadinejad gang or the thuggish Rafsanjani-Mousavi-Khatami-Karroubi gang. Islamists are a dangerous bunch of murderers and thieves. Period. Our IRI Nazis have all of the criminality of the German Nazis and none of their technological ingenuity, military prowess or good personal hygiene. 


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AMIR1973

Yousef and No Fear = Islamist Laurel and Hardy

by AMIR1973 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 03:25 PM PDT

The Shah killed 60,000 people!

That lie is just too funny. Yousef, you are a true comedian. The total number of people killed by the Shah's regime from 1963-1979 was just over 3000 (about 2700 in the Islamist Rapist orgy called a "revolution" that was led from Neuphle-le-Chateau by the Number One Killer of Iranians, aka the Grand Rapist Khomeini. The bloodiest single incident was when Islamist arsonists set the Cinema Rex on fire and burned over 400 people to death). That is just a small fraction of the number killed in the first few years of the most violent, repressive, and medieval bunch of gangsters, murderers, and thieves in modern Iranian history, i.e. the IRI.

Rapist Regime Groupies love their Islamist Utopia very deeply. Their love is so deep that they prefer to exercise it while living in Sheytan-e Bozorg or elsewhere in the decadent West. If one of these West-residing IRI Groupies could give me the reason why they live in the Evil West, rather than the Rapist Paradise, it would be truly interesting to hear.


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Yousef Bozorgmehr

There is no comparison

by Yousef Bozorgmehr on Mon Jun 28, 2010 03:15 PM PDT

 

@JOSH

It is no secret that homosexuals hate the government of Ahmadinejad and believe that Karroubi will give them "rights". Everywhere he goes in the world, some gay thug  from the "rainbow alliance" heckles him.

//www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2009/apr/20/...

I dare say many of the media allowing you access to their sites are homosexuals, atheists and other untermenschen.  I write serious articles, involving scientific methods - all you are capable of is ranting and spewing your propagandist nonsense like any attention whore. Don't ever think you can make yourself out to be a serious scholar - you are not even 1% of the way there.


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Rosie.

Yousef Bozorgmehr

by Rosie. on Mon Jun 28, 2010 03:19 PM PDT

You wrote:

Islamic popular government is here to remain in Iran till the end of time.

I heard there is a job opening at IRGC I think you should apply for. For general. They are looking for strong applicants with positive outlook.

//iranian.com/main/news/2009/07/08/islamic-revolution-insured-least-20-years

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"Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood
perished: for Falsehood is bound to perish." [Qur'an
17:81] 


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Fatollah

shookhi nakon

by Fatollah on Mon Jun 28, 2010 03:10 PM PDT

make that 600,000! :-) that's about the proper figure.


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No Fear

Yousef,

by No Fear on Mon Jun 28, 2010 03:04 PM PDT

Welcome aboard.

While your logical explaination, sources and reasons can not be refuted by other posters who challenged you, the way you conduct yourself is no different than them.

i prefer to use your tone when dealing with those who are involved in an armed struggle with Iran. These Nokhodis ( Non-voters ) who barely speak proper Farsi, are only following what they hear from their papas and mamas. let them vent , swear and jump.

We should reduce the gap between government and people. Calling them names and excluding them is the very same methods employed by those who we are against it. 14 millions vote represent a strong minority which must be respected and their voices heard.

 

 


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Josh Shahryar

Sad,

by Josh Shahryar on Mon Jun 28, 2010 02:58 PM PDT

You know Yousef,

If you are an academic and scholar who's work we should take serious, why is it that when you comment on articles, you language used by a four-year old who's been raised on the backstreets of a ghetto? I thought a 'respected' expert like yourself would know that when you use words like "kooni", you sound less like an expert, scholar, academic and more like a troll out to inflame conversations?

 

I thought I should add something else here, but I really think I don't. Your language, your logic and your mentality speak for themselves. 

 

 

 


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Yousef Bozorgmehr

Tahghooti becomes Hezbollahi

by Yousef Bozorgmehr on Mon Jun 28, 2010 02:49 PM PDT

 

I never lie....Mousavi and his supporters do that.

Father is in this picture: Back row on the left - General Zahedi is in the middle in the front row.

//www.shahbazi.org/images/Bozorgmehr_Esfandia...

Go read his book - an insider's guide to the tyranny of the Shah's criminal regime that killed 60,000 people.

//www.iranbooks.net/pageshop/flypage&produc...

The Pahlavi family await trial in Iran.


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AMIR1973

Everything an Islamist says is a lie

by AMIR1973 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 01:25 PM PDT

If you must know I am from a TAGHOOTI family.with more Shiro Khorsheed emblems on silverware than you will ever own. My father was even in the government of MR Pahlavi.

Oh sure, your dad was a high-ranking government official in the Shah's government. I believe that, just like I believe Emam's face in the moon and the all the other lies of the Rapist Khomeini. You know, the same Rapist that was protected by the "believer" governments of Iraq and France.

communist-atheist-anarchist-apostate-kooni goals are futile

The ULTIMATE koonis live in Qom and Jamaran. But you already knew that, didn't you O West-residing IRI Groupie?


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fooladi

These blogs put a big smile on my face :)

by fooladi on Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:57 AM PDT

I often wonder what the Iranian islamist regime's objective is by hiring people to speak on their behalf on internet sites? is it to convert the iranian ex pat to their supporters or is it to influence the US/European public opinion? In either case, with friends like these tweets on this site, they do not need any enemys. I mean just look at some of the comments: one says that "Anti government Iranian demostrators were all homosexuals, communists and aethiests !- yea, all 3 million of them-,as such infidels, so it was right to murder them!" The other tries pathetically to draw some parallels between the actions of the murderous Iranian bassij mercenaries and canadian police!

What a waste of Oil dollars indeed! If I were their handlers, I'd fire them on mass and hire Chimps in their place. At least some westerners find chimps rather cute! But Their problem is that the handlers themselves, all the way up to the "supreme handler",  khamenei, the "spokesman of god on earth!!!!!" himself is a monkey with brain size of a peanut. :)

My apologies to the monkeys and chimps of the animal kingdom in advance, no offence meant, just repeating the old stereotypes :)


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Cost-of-Progress

yousef

by Cost-of-Progress on Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:54 AM PDT

they trained you well.

So where's the school of anti-nationalistic thugs? outside or inside London?

Funny you preach "being Iranian" when everything you represent is anti-iran.

Like I said... homosexcual bahavior is the number one activity among your divine Qom cleric and talabeh.

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Cost-of-Progress

sargord

by Cost-of-Progress on Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:42 AM PDT

for the bizzilionth time...anti-theocracy is pro-iran.

The islamic regime is Anti-Iran.

...what makes you so pro-regime? You live in the west (so you tell us) comfortably  and act as the remote cheer leader for an anti nationalist anti human murderous regime. What gives?? 

Is it worth it? 

BTW, is the picture of a Faati Commando in action (training....too funny)

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IRAN FIRST

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default

yy

by Doctor X on Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:48 AM PDT

yy


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Sargord Pirouz

There was plenty of gun play

by Sargord Pirouz on Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:35 AM PDT

There was plenty of gun play seen by Canadian forces. I'm sure if the Canadian rioters had initiated burning of inhabited police stations, we'd have seen lethal force in effect.

After the initial June protests in Iran, less-lethal force was the instructed order. And Kahrizak prison was closed.

You can complain all you want, but the anti-establishment protests/rioting is finished.

The Islamic Republic of Iran is not Kyrgyzstan. For that, those of us that are not anti-Iran cheerleaders can be grateful.


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AMIR1973

Using Sargord's "logic"

by AMIR1973 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:27 AM PDT

The Canadian government should shoot and kill the demonstrators and jail and rape others. That is the "logic" of Rapist Regime supporters. Why, of why, do West-residing Islamist Rapist propagandists expect us to believe all their pathological lying? This isn't your Rapist Regime. In America, the lies of Rapist Regime Groupies will be challenged.


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Sargord Pirouz

Using Josh's logic, why did

by Sargord Pirouz on Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:23 AM PDT

Using Josh's logic, why did Canada deploy all those antiriot troops in Toronto? The Candian government must be afraid of its own citizens. And the rioters are legitimate in their actions.

Rubbish. 

And by the way, the photo used on this post does not come from an action taken during the protest/rioting in Tehran. It is from a training exercise.

More rubbish. 


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Bavafa

Well, there can always be some doubt...

by Bavafa on Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:09 AM PDT

We may not find out for a long long time who was really responsible for Neda's murder, or how many people got murdered intentionally and how many by accident during the last uprising Likewise, we may not find out for another long time about the extend of fraud in the last election.

But one thing that there is NO DOUBT in most objective, intelligent and informed people is that IRI has lost any legitimacy it might had.

Onlyiran:

قرآن بخوره فرق سرت

That is the best line I have heard in a long long time. Thanks.

Mehrdad


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Cost-of-Progress

And who are the proponents?

by Cost-of-Progress on Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:55 AM PDT

rapists , murderers, opportunistic pigs, bache baazan, anti-nationalist vatan foroushan, brain-washed morons who put islam first before Iran, those who embarce their opressors and invaders...and so on.

By the way, homosexcual bahavior is the number one activity among your divine Qom clerics and talabeh.

The filth you represent has done great harm to iran for a long time.

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IRAN FIRST

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