"Israel won't strike Iran"

Says Russian President Dmitry Medvedev

In interview with CNN's Fareed Zakaria, Medvedev spoke about Russias perception of its role in the world and its achievements, S330 Air Defense System shipments to Iran, and other important issues in his interview with CNN.

21-Sep-2009
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che khabar e

Mehdi

by che khabar e on

You actually make some good points here.  Although I think you're extremely and unfairly biased against the West, I agree with some of what you say.

#1. Please don't cut off your nose to spite your face.  Allying with Russia to spit on the West isn't going to help your cause at all.  Just the thought of Russia getting a toe grip in Iran scares the shit out of me.  Why not find a "mutual" ally of both US and Iran to join with instead of alienating Iran even more.  Find a future solution, not a final solution.  Russia will use you up and spit you out in order to get back at the US.  Further YOUR cause, not hers.

#2.  No, Israel has not hesitated to bark out loud.  But I do not and never will believe that their ranting about bombing Iran includes Iranian people.  Not any more than I believe that ALL Iranians are anti-semitic.  Mostly just the regime and it's supporters.  But I will also point out the obvious to you.  Iran, by way of the regime, has ALSO taken every opportunity to state their wishful thinking of bombing Israel.  Is one worse than the other?  No.

#3.  Yes, the US has actively and vocally stated it's (op)position regarding Israel and it's ridiculous calls to bomb Iran.  It ain't gonna happen.  Could you cut the US a little slack because of this?  Please?  :-)

#4.  I actually agree with your comment about Israel and Iran being pawns.  I also agree that Israel could and should be taking the higher ground here. She is more powerful and I personally believe the stronger should always protect the weaker.  She has more global support than Iran (right now) and shouldn't be playing the bully just because she feels defensive.  I don't extend that understanding to the issue of Israel and Palestine but that is another issue and I won't go into that right now.  I do believe Israel has been riding a big wave of public sympathy but that clearly is diminishing.  She better get her shit together and come up with a real plan or she's going to lose her support.

#5. "well we know what Israelis are famous for - being super stingy"  I was sorry to see this comment because it just reminds me of the (lack of) difference between anti-jewish and anti-israel to you.  They are two completely different things and what you express is anti-semitic.  Israelis doesn't have a reputation for being stingy... Jews do.  And hasn't that been what ALL the (hidden) anti-semitics say?  "I'm not anti-jewish... I just don't agree with what Israel does".  You've just made it clear you don't see any difference.

But what I'm sorriest for is that you turn EVERYTHING into a Jewish, Israel, Zionist thing.  Israel is the least of Iran's problems.  And Iran is the least of Israel's problems. 

 


Onlyiran

"Onlyiran, or is it OnlyIsrael?"

by Onlyiran on

YAWN.... 

Same old "you're an Israeli", "you're a Zionist" nonsense.....

 


Mehdi

Onlyiran, or is it OnlyIsrael?

by Mehdi on

If you take hatred, emotions and senationalism out of your comment, it will be a lot easier to read it and see any points in it. To correct your many, many assumptions, I do not think that Russia is a perfect country. I don't even know if it is better or worse than Israel. All I said, was that this guy is quite sane. It is very hard to think that he is faking it - based on answers that he is giving (unlike Fareed who acts like a snake and a cheap whore). I also said that Iranian government should ally itself more with Russia in order to better deflect the bullying of the West. This would be a strategic alliance - it does not mean they should marry each other.

Currently Israel has made it VERY clear that it has no qualms whatsoever to bomb Iran and murder all Iranians. NO OTHER COUNTRY has made such a threat, not even the US. In fact US and other Western countries have had to openly tighten the leash on their dog in the ME and point out that Israelis government official are actually insane! So, don't preach to me about what Russia has done or may do.

Personally, just to make things clear, I don't think there is a real valid reason for Iran and Israel to be at each ther's throat. I think some third parties are involved and I think that both regime are stupid and due to their stupidity are extending this animosity. You can blame Ahmadinejad if you like, but I see Israelis as the more responsible side, simply due to the fact that Israel has 1000 times more power than Iran and therefore in MUCH better position to be creative and think of alternative ways. But as with their policy with Palestinians, Israelis are not willing to budge even an inch. They are willing to spend billions of dollars on arming themselves to the teeth but have NO interest in offering something to their neighboring nations as a gift and sign of friendship. They always claim they are poor and that they have to defend themselves - well we know what Israelis are famous for - being super stingy. If they had spent even 1/3 of the $3 billion a year that they get as a hand out from American taxpayers to build Palestine a little, for the past so many years, by now there would be an educated civilized Palestinian society with which Israel could build friendship. But Israelis act like paranoid idiots with no morals and extremely stingy. NOBODY likes Israel! This is a FACT! It was recently surveyed to be the least liked nation in the WORLD. So open your eyes!

I have no interest in the Iranian regime but I choose my side based on what is the best for EVERYONE and not just a few. And I think LONG term. I am not worried about short term temporary powers.As Ahmadinejad correctly pointed out, South Africa also had power for a little bit. Lok where they are now. But do Israelis learn? Or will they be kicked out and destroyed one more time? They never seem to learn that friendship is the only true security - they bank their money on weapons only. I have no hope for them. That is a sure way to lose in the long run. ALL such regimes are in the dustbin of history. But I doubt that Israelis would listen. They are just too stupid.


Onlyiran

Yes, Mehdi, Iran Should Make "More Alliances" with Russia

by Onlyiran on

because they love Muslims.  here's my comment from another thread.  I'm sick of trying to talk to you yo yos:

You IRI clowns have never answered the question as to why you cheer Russia and oppose Israel?  And yes, don't lie, you do cheer them.  Can you tell us where your boss Ahmadinejad, the great defender of Muslims' rights and the great anti-imperialist fighter, went the day after his selection as president back in June?  That's right: Russia.  He went to pay his respects there.  In the meantime, back in the old USSR, here's what happening to Chechen Muslims:

"Other problems linger as a result of Russia's military involvement in Chechnya. Landmines are an ever-present threat. Russian forces laid the mines during the wars in Chechnya, but Moscow has not provided maps of mine fields as demanded by international law. The Russian government also has not provided assistance in helping determine what happened to more than 5,000 Chechens who disappeared during the wars."

5000 is just the disappeared.  It's not counting the dead, tortured, raped and jailed.  That's more than double the number of the Palestinains that israel has killed in the past decade (or even more).  And yet, there is not one word, blog, cartoon or even comment by you clowns about your Russian "friends".  But everyday, this site is spammed with piece after piece after piece about Israel and Palestine.

Furthermore, here is an example of what the Russian installed puppet government in Chechnya is doing to the Muslim population there:

"Tamara Vashkhabova's son was gunned down by Kadyrov's security forces in May in front of dozens of witnesses. As her elderly husband cuddled his dead son, Kadyrov's police demanded he curse his son and thank the security forces for killing his son. When he refused, they beat the old man until he lost consciousness. The authorities would not give the family their son's body for burial."

Here's the link to the antire article on npr.org

//www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112977301

It's from yesterday.  And for those of you who are blind as well as stupid, you can actually listen to the report also. 

So, PLEASE spare us your manufactured outrage and manufactured compassion.  You have all been exposed as nothing but a bunch of brainwahsed IRI tools who can't see pass your ignorance and irrational hate.  You are no standrad bearer of the Muslim cause or the Palestinain cause.  You are a bunch of phonies who are so desparate to keep your revolution going that you will lie, cheat, steal and kill every single Iranian just to prove that you're right. 


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Mehdi

by KouroshS on

Farid exposed the truth about the filthy IRI and now he has got some of their supporters in maddening rage. How wonderful:)

He nailed your Jujeh north american politics expert and grilled him like a chicken kabob and he is being despised. WowT

More is definitely on the way.

 


Mehdi

Jaleho: Yes, I did!

by Mehdi on

That Farid guy is a disgusting piece of garbage. Unfortunately people like him, these days, become famous, as they serve the criminals so well - just like an obedient dog who does anything when the master throws a bone at him!


abgosht

US media is as bad as IRIB.

by abgosht on

This intereview is a typical BS you see in US media.  It starts off assuming Iran is building nuclear weapons.  Fact is that Iran is not, even US intelligence agencies confirmed it again.

 

//www.juancole.com/2009/09/newsweek-us-intell...

 

End of the day, main stream US media is as mucha BS as the Iranian national tv is these days.


Jaleho

Dear Mehdi, do you understand?

by Jaleho on

PERIOD, hahaha!

Between us, the guy fixed Farid who had forgotten he's not talking with an average dumb American ;-)


che khabar e

friends with the russians?

by che khabar e on

are you insane?  there is NOTHING the west could do to ever equal the atrocities and double dealings of the russians.  Period.  The only "forceful" ways of the west is making sure AN doesn't get nukes.  You think Russia gives a shit about Iranians?   


Mehdi

A very sane guy

by Mehdi on

Unlike the yahoo neo-cons of the US, and most of the western governments who only rely on their military power when they talk or when they plan anything, this guy is actually quite sane and intends to bring about a better world. Very refreshing. I think Iran should make more alliances with Russia and build a powerhouse to better deflect the West's forceful ways.