Mansour Osanloo

Bust drivers union leader talks about torture in prison

Says his interrogators cut his tongue and neck to instill fear in others and his supporters:

07-May-2009
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MEHRNAZ SHAHABI

No, I just have an Iranian Name and ID!

by MEHRNAZ SHAHABI on

Unlike you, of course, "AnonymousShirazi" who seem to have all the credentials for claiming Iranian-ness!!  You did not seem to understand the point I was making, however.  I am not talking about the Iranian government, YOU ARE.  I am talking about applying the same standards of human rights and justice to the Palestinians, and MY support for their rights and my awareness of their plight.  I am saying you cannot genuinely support human right in Iran, if you are a racist scum bag.  When innocent people rot in a civilian concentration camp and get slaughtered, that has nothing to do with who voted what for the UAE!!!  What sort of stupid argument is that?  If you are saying (you are) whether I too am anti-Arab, NO, I am not, I do not hold a sense of resentment or superiority towards either Arabs or the Jews, including the Israeli citizens.  I do not derive my sense of Iranian identity from fake ignorant racist mythology.  


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Mehrnaz

by AnonymousShirazi (not verified) on

Iranian goverment paid already millions of dollars to Palestinins, and help them in many other ways(!), what else do we need to do for them, should we kill ourselves for their cause. We are not even Arabs but we did for them more than all arab countries together. To be fair we did enough for them and have never seen any appreciation. They have voted for UAE to claim the 3 Islands and use of the fake name of Kalege Pars. Are you Iranian or just have Iranian name and ID.


Ari Siletz

Asghar_Massombagi

by Ari Siletz on

Osanloo has my sympathies for his ordeal. And yes, the choice belongs to the Iranian worker. "Going Tehran" is a good idea. I look forward to it.

Darius Kadivar

Parham Jaan No Problem ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on

Yes and Poor me ... er... I mean Poor Blier ;0)


Asghar_Massombagi

Ari, give this guy a break

by Asghar_Massombagi on

He's just almost got his tongue cut off. The mob apparently decided to enact the old "zaboon-e to ghat mikonam" battle cry on poor Osanloo.  He's half naked after all, which means they got him on camera hot off the confrontation, so he's a little more loose-tongued than usual.  Look, I don't know much about Osanloo but I think you're selling the workers in Iran short.  This "going Gdansk" business smacks of accepting the IRI's rules of engagement. Why is he going Gdansk?  Why can't he just "go Tehran?" Why is every activity in Iran mapped to something foreign anyway?  So he's trying to attract some international solidarity? So what? What frame of reference do the workers have in Iran's history except for the same "foreign concepts" that the social democratic movement brought to Iran from the time of Mashrotiat on?  This business about leave us to ourselves has become as much of an ideological chomagh for these guys as Marg bar Amrika.  They won’t let go.  It’s their bread and butter. At some point you have to challenge them.  But you and I are here and they’re there and the cries of lengesh kon means very little to them.  Ultimately it’s their choice, whatever they choose.


Parham

Darius

by Parham on

Don't worry about it... I'm just sick of all the b.s. Thought I'd change my attitude for a while... ;-)

Doesn't Lino look mighty cute in that clip though?! :-)

Cheerios.


Darius Kadivar

Parham WTF ?!? ... ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on

What's Biting you these days ? You seem to look for a good fight with everybody lately. Gee Your Hot Blooded Man ... Cool Off !

I am NOT accusing you of anything nor claim you are accusing me either. I am simply answering you cause I got similar reactions to my previous blogs regarding this Book so I did not want people to see me contradict myself regarding my knowledge of the Books MKO tendancies etc . That's all ...

Its Not My Birthday yet ! So no need to offer me the book in your current mood ;0)

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fRuExSRaBA

Also I went to check the book in my local bookshop this afternoon and It does contain alot of documents and photos regarding the entire IRI security system and the people in charge.

Its worth looking at be it by curiosity even if predictably he does seem to put the MKO look like a legitimate resistant group. But its a Very thick book so I don't think I will have the courage to read it.

Sorry for the confusion or misunderstanding generated. It was Unintentional ... 

Cheers,

D


Parham

Darius

by Parham on

WTF are you talking about? Read my post then read yours. BOTH of them.

I leave a "technical sidenote", you make it look like I accused you of being MKO, that I told you the book's claims are not true, etc.

Are you ok?


MEHRNAZ SHAHABI

Dear Azadeh

by MEHRNAZ SHAHABI on

You may SEE contradictions in my account perhaps because the Palestinians and their rights in our country have fallen pray to both domestic politics in Iran on the one hand and the racist propaganda of the Zionist agenda on the other.   Some people use the issue of Palestinians and their rights as PRETEXT as you call it, and others use the issue of women's rights and trade unions and civil liberties as PRETEXT.  They do what they do.  As far as i am concerned and I am sure many more people in Iran and internationally, the issues of rights are universal.  If you believe in HUMAN RIGHTS in Iran genuinely and honourably, then you also respect the human rights of the Palestinians.  I know, I know, I know, that there are many other abuses of rights in the world, BUT, the importance of Palestine also, as I said previously, resides in the fact that they are pray to the same hegemonic and regional ambitions that Iranians are. Anyway, I hope that has clarified it.  If not read my other posts and comments please to get a more round up picture.  Regards

 

 


Ari Siletz

Asghar_Massombagi, Osanloo's mistake

by Ari Siletz on

Osanloo knows that meeting the demands of the school yard bully isn't the purpose here. However in this clip he seems to occasionaly forget that he is still after gathering popular support, and not yet ready to go Gdansk on the IRI. 1. A list of foreign acronyms is unlikely to be meaningful to the average Iranian worker; in fact it's a turn off. He shouldn't dilute his appeal with confusing foreign references.

2. We have two chess pieces in this arena that have a chance of prying loose the IRI stranglehold on Iran: The women's movement and the labor movement. For the moment both should sidestep the appearence that their ideology is Western inspired--more than just avoiding foreign associations. Unfortunately, even less significant activists such as Akbar Ganji can't resist the faux-prestige of over referencing Western sources.   

  

 


Ali P.

Torture 101

by Ali P. on

There are two kinds of torture, inflicted on suspects:

1) Torture as a punishment: The suspect is "known" by the officials that he/she has committed a bad act . He/she is punished by torture, no matter what he/she does now.

2) Torture as a means of interogation: The suspect is "known" by the officials, to have some information that he/she refuses to share with them. Torture is then employed to elicit information. Once the information is disclosed, or the officials know all have been disclosed, this form of torture stops.

 

Hope to live in a world some day, neither one in practiced.

(In the meanwhile, some of you guys out there, keep torturing us with some of the comments you make on Iranan.com!)

 


Rabbi

Joe L.

by Rabbi on

US is racist but not Israel. We don't torture in Israel either. Our government is more democratic than the US. We even smoke Hash in the military, something unheard of in your country.


capt_ayhab

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by capt_ayhab on

What do you expect from bunch of animals who are in charge of the country now? 

Mr. Osanlo sounds very well versed and informed, the gentleman knows what he is talking about. Organizations like these need all the support they can get, and perhaps then there might a hope for fundamental change in Iran.

 

-YT


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Dear Mehrnaz

by AnonymousAzadeh (not verified) on

Your comment is full of contradictions. On one hand you support IRI agendas(oppressing Iranians by the pretext of palestinians issues) and on the other hand you speak about the fighting for trade unions rights such as Osanloo, and women rights activists. That is very confusing.


Joe L.

Torture is bad anywhere

by Joe L. on

In Iran it happens as much as anywhere else. I understand that I am not qualified to make such comment or generalize but do it anyway. The United States tortures and Israel tortures worse. Turkey tortures and China tortures more. Saudi tortures and Spain tortures more. You just not going to hear that because it is not broadcast. Your country is suppose to be evil so we hear all the bad stuff. What about China? What about Saudi Arabia? What about Egypt? Hey that aint going to justify this horrible act of torture but want to let you know that the regime in your country aint as evil as you think, it's just another evil regime like the rest.

Don't get fooled and dragged in to the thought that Iranians are the only country that suffer from this horrible torture stuff because it's not so. It all comes down to what you want to get and get it.

I still am looked at from a suspicious eyes living in my own country since the beginning because I am black. You have no clue how it feels to be a black man in this country. Don't judge Iran as harsh. The people in this country believe that the United States is on the side of Jesus and God and with that we have done evil all over the world. Let me share with you a clip from my government that claims to be righteous, please watch

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TtzvdREnJE


Asghar_Massombagi

Ari

by Asghar_Massombagi on

The IRI (and its apologists) has made a fetish of "independence" and their version of anti-imperialism; a political tool to clubber their opposition indiscriminately as spies and agents of foreigners.  Osanloo is referring to legitimate international organizations specifically labour organizations.  The activists in Iran are extremely careful not to associate with any organization that might even indirectly be funded or connected to entities like Hoover Institute or such.  But there is a limit to all of this.  They can't shut themselves out of the world and play the xenophobic game.  Like a schoolyard bully, the more you give, the more they demand.  It seems Osanloo and his bothers and sisters in union (since I can't use the word comrade) are willing to pay the price for their transgression.  All power to them. It can't be easy to deal with lumpen thugs.


Bavafa

Lets call it what it is and not catching titles for other purpos

by Bavafa on

As another side note:

I think the title of this clip is misleading. As he describes the event, it is obvious that his tong was cut during the demonstration and the chase after that and not in jail, so how is this "torture in prison"

Again, I am not trying, be any means, to lessen his heroism but I think by adding some misleading claims and titles perhaps for a different purposes, one would diminish the effectiveness of his fight.

Mehrdad

P.S. fighting injustice should not have any boundary whether fighting the injustice caused by the mullah in Iran or the fascist Zionist against the Palestinians.


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Torture

by Anonymous-*** (not verified) on

Laanat bar Mohammad va al Mohammad. Torture is highly important in Islam, it is vaajeb messleh Nooneh shab!


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He has the marks of the leader a revolution needs to flourish!

by farrad02 on

Could Mansour Osanloo be the one?!


ramintork

Iranian of the day and tomorrow I hope

by ramintork on

Osanloo is a true hero, we need more people like him.

I hope that he survives the brutality of IRI and doesn't end up becoming another dead victim.

Thank you for the posting.

 


Darius Kadivar

Besides in 453 pages One should Find At Least one Truthful claim

by Darius Kadivar on

I just don't have the patience to read the whole damn book ( unless they pay me to read and review it) but I think one should be able to find one or two claims in the book which can be easily verified as true don't you think ?

Maybe you should read it and review it if you are well informed about the subject  ;0)


MiNeum71

Dear DK,

by MiNeum71 on

You can change the book´s title, yes, you can, if you only try ;)

 


Darius Kadivar

Parham I cannot change the book's title ?

by Darius Kadivar on

And besides it does not mean that Iran does not have a secret Police simply because of the mis use of a name that one way or another has been associated to it.

Osanloo's video only proves my point.

As for the MKO affiliation of the Author and my dislike for the MKO I have made no secret about it if you carefully read my Related Blog:

VEVAK ( IRI's Secret Services) denounced in French Book To be Released in April

 


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Someone should send this

by .Ali (not verified) on

Someone should send this video to George Galloway, who claims to care about worker’s right but is an unashamed defender of Mullahs


Parham

Darius

by Parham on

A technical sidenote:

There are only a handful of people who call it VEVAK (or also SAVAMA) -- those are NOT the names of the current "ettela'at" in Iran as SAVAK was ("Sazmane Ettela'at Va Amniate Keshvar", as you know of course).

Some try to "market" those two names for different purposes (like Bonnet to sell his book, Mojahedin to sell their cause, Shahollahis to say "look, there is a new secret police", etc.), but usually, using those two names discredits an argument more than it could ever substantiate it, since they are "az-man dar avordi" i.m.o.

Cheers.


Darius Kadivar

FYI/Book on VEVAK Published in France !

by Darius Kadivar on

New Book in French on the Islamic Republic's Secret Services VEVAK has just been released in France. The Author, Yves Bonnet was head of the DST, France's Secret Services.

BOOK: Vevak, au service des ayatollahs - Histoire des services secrets iraniens

Editor: Timée-éditions, 453 pages, 19 euros. It is available on Amazon.fr 


Jahanshah Javid

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by Jahanshah Javid on

I don't think this clip has been featured in iranian.com before. Has it? Where?


MEHRNAZ SHAHABI

Racist Anonymous 000000

by MEHRNAZ SHAHABI on

To care for Palestinians and their rights is not in contradiction with caring for the welfare and rights of the people in Iran, including trades unions rights and women's rights.  It is YOUR hypocrisy, hiding under your well-deserved zeroes, that screams of treachery.  Shame on you!  

Your position and the ones like you, who turn their backs on Palestinians and hurl  Zionist/colonialist racist abuse at Palestinians,  Arabs in the region, and those Iranians who have the decency to support them, does not serve the people of Iran or their rights.  You are supporting the warmongering colonialist ambitions of your masters in Tel Aviv.  Shame on you.  

Those fighting for trade unions rights such as Osanloo, and women rights activists, will spit on you. Because it is this sort of machinations and hypocrisy to divide them from other people in the region that will weaken them.  It is also your machinations from abroad tainting their rightful struggles with the agenda of colonial powers that puts them in more danger and holds back their struggles.  Some traitors and dimwits here might fall for this talk, but people in Iran, don't.  They spit on you.


MiNeum71

Iranian.com at it´s best, again

by MiNeum71 on

Pity, repeating old (2006) already featured clips. For new/further informations about this remarkable and brave man go to:

1) International campaign for human rights in Iran (today)
2) Free Osanloo
3) Solidarity center
4) Mansour Osanloo visits ITF and ITUC (pics)

 


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Majid and Ari both have good points

by farrad02 on

One is the fact that the Mullahs will never allow the union and workers rights florsh at any level. Second is that the activists should keep it all local and strictly away from making international references (serfan senfi!) But how can they keep politics out of this? It's impossible! Note that although Osanloo is emphecizing in this video that they are strictly acting to ensure their labor rights, but he also says that the rights a union seek includes freedom of speech and political freedoms!

And also note in the last part of his talk right before the end he stresses that unions are by nature promoting democracy and equal rights in all aspects of life for people! And that's why Majid is right (the Mullahs will never allow him or his likes to florish! ever! I fear for this guy's life!)

Regarding the question on why he is naked. I believe this is a home video taken in his house shortly after he was released, by one of his co-workers or other labor activists! They are just de-briefing him while his memory is still fresh! Sitting around shirtless amongst guy friends is an old Iranian tradition!