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Desperate?

You stopped trying to engage about 3 comments ago, so what could possibly be making me feel desperate? Feeble-minded opponents tend to make me feel bored more than anything else. The "facts" are as you assert them to be, and when challenged you ignore the substance of what your opponents present and resort to repeating yourself. You think that drives people to desperation? Desperation for more meaningful debate, maybe :o

Craig: You sound like a desperate man

The more you are paddling, the deeper you are going

Mehrdad

barfbag

And the reason I didn't respond to it was...

Because you couldn't think of anything to say, obviously. Anything you said to deny the apparrent meaning of comments you made here could easily be refuted by comments you've made in other posts on this website. Just reading the topics of posts and news item you've contributed here looks like a verbatim recitation of the official IRI party line, and there's no dodging that is there? It's only because you hate the US and Israel so much that you say all the same things Ahmadinejad says? Yeah, right. That's the same excuse he uses too, isn't it?

(you going to need some one to translate this for you)  'Javabe ablahan khamoshist'

No, I don't need a translator. I don't care enough about what you type to bother with that. You're an idiot in English and I'm sure you are an idiot in Farsi too.

Ahmed From Bahrain

Hi Ahmed,

Both Ahmadinejad and the Dickie boy here are evil, Mahmoud for killing his own people and Dick for destroying any nation that does NOT BOW to the US.  That, BTW, has been US's foreign policy "strategy" since the fall of the Soviets. You may remember what King George said (to "other nations") right after the 9/11 bobmings: "You are either with us or you are with the terrorists...".  Well, I say, we are neither with you nor with the terrorists!

Also, 

Do you guys know why this bastard is shooting the breeze so much these days on Fox/CNN?  It's called reverse politics; he KNOWS the DOJ is coming for his degenrate ass and there's no escaping from that. All this psycho-babble is a last-ditch back-paddling effort to keep the Feds away. Hey, Dickie boy, there's no GWB to hide behind this time, is there (Although, I heard you guys had a falling-out recently; that's too bad.)?!

Craig, my buddy you are losing man... get it together come on!!!

"that I thought proved you to be a supporter of the Islamic Republic. You said nothing"

The key word here is that "YOU thought proved" and you have already proven to every one your way of thinking.

And the reason I didn't respond to it was (you going to need some one to translate this for you)  'Javabe ablahan khamoshist'

 good luck

Mehrdad

And also...

You see how this other open IRI supporter who goes by the name "XerXes" is also advocating teh US shoudl attack Iran? So, how could that be something I should be ashamed of? Aren't you embarrassed for not having gotten the IRI talking points where you are supposed to say IRI will benefit from its own destruction? Only IRI could come up with such brilliance. You don't see Saddam Hussein saying he benefitted by being attacked by US, do you? I doubt he would say that even if he wasn't dead, because he was crying like a little girl the whole time it happened. I guess he didn't have balls as big as the people who will support Islamic Republic to the last Iranian, did he?

And...

Now, if you think one who is dead against military strike/invasion
against Iran or any other country for that matter is a mouthpiece for
them.... then that is your prerogative.

You are backpedalling from the principled stand you took supporting the IRI? I pointed out to you a couple of items that I thought proved you to be a supporter of the Islamic Republic. You said nothing. Now you pretend your support for the IRI is just because you oppose the US? How stupid do you think people are?

So...

Now you accuse me of being a supporter of Dick Cheney? Is that all you have? What's next? You will excuse the fact that you are an IRI supporter by accusing me of being a neocon? Or a zionist, perhaps? :o

Ex programmer Craig: shouldn't U be on Faux news web page then

Not sure which one is worse, being a mouthpiece for IRI or Dick Cheney? In my book however, both are scum's of the earth along with those who knowingly advocate their position.

Now, if you think one who is dead against military strike/invasion against Iran or any other country for that matter is a mouthpiece for them.... then that is your prerogative. As for me, I do believe who is steadfastly defend DICK Cheney and his advection for military strike against another nation and has no qualms about killing innocent people, I do find him/her to be a mouthpiece, thus the scum of the earth.

Mehrdad

I miss this guy

I love to see him run for president. America deserves a man who represents all the ideology that this country stands for. After all, if I am going to pay taxes for military defense, let us use it to our advantage. What's wrong with attacking Iran and making Middle East a giant bomb blasts from all corners? These are the positive outcomes:
A) All the A$$hole sheikhdoms of Arabias will have to work for living
B) Shortage of oil will be universal and we can think green, from need and not want
C) Israel has to deal with all the chaos and I am sure they think they will be fine
D) US military will bring in NATO support for many extremists and there would be a fun war for years to come
E) Economy will flourish in here and we will all get better jobs
F) Eventually Europe will be the next target of the chaotic ME situation and US will benefit
G) Economy in Iran will flourish from exports of its local goods. The US ignores the Iranian trade partners for the time being
H) because of these chaos, Iran will have a stronger military presence in the old empire area. expanding its control
I)US will come out stronger because all the rest are weaker, must deal with Iran
J) Russia and China will never dare to enter the area, and probably the Russian Muslim militants begin their actions around that country also.
K) US will need to move in to Russia to help with newly formed ideology from Russia based Muslims. Russia will suffer greatly
L) Iran will quietly watch the events, while the Iranian extremists move to other areas of ME, Iranian moderates take over Iranian borders
M)US and Moderates talk about how to deal with all the chaos
N) Iran will agree to assist US troops, secretly
O) US influence grows in Russia and Iranian influence grow in the East and West of the border, as it is already
P)The Extremists will rule from Bahrain to Egypt and surround Israel. Terrorists activities on the rise.
Q) Israelis fled the country for New Jersey
R) The new political map forms:
I. Iranians area of influence: in the terrorists infested areas. They can talk to Iran because it holds the title of Islamic Republic. US uses Iran to negotiate with their leaders. US will form a alliance with Iran to get a hold of strategic areas. Iran will benefit greatly.
II. American area of influence: Turkey, Lebanon (Shared with Iranian based ideological group) Israel/Palestine. Most of the other areas are in a constant state of terrorist activities.
III. Euro-Russian area of influence: Pakistan, India, and Western China.

25 years down the road:
Finally after the long lasting wars and increase of the terrorists activities across the region, many countries can't afford their presence. What Iran wanted originally. China will eventually move in and Russia will recover. US remains but Europe, bankrupted, will need to revolutionize its way of life.

All other ME nations will have independent regimes that the West can't control. Iran will come out winner, and US gains slightly from all these. However, the influence will vanish all together.

So Mr. Cheney, run for president and do attack Iran. History will prove who is right. I have no doubt that Iran will benefit greatly from an attack, actually I think they beg for it. At the end, the road looks beautiful, after the attack...

Bavaria

You are expecting me to be ashamed for seeing Iran in a stronger
position

No, I expect you to be ashamed of being a mouthpiece for the Islamic Republic, on a website that is for Iranian ex-pats. Especially after this summer. But I realize it isn't realistic to expect somebody like you to feel shame. Or guilt, for that matter.

...yet have no shame to come on this site and advocate bombing
Iran and wanting it to be  invaded by some foreign military. 

Well, for one thing - why would I feel shame if my country attacked an avowed enemy that has given us ample provocation, and continues to provoke? For another thing, since I'm not Iranian and I am American, it would not be a "foreign" military that attacked Iran, from my perspective. It would be my own country's military that attacked a foreign enemy, aka your Islamic Republic friends, who are also aka scum of the earth and aka accursed by God.

Does this comparison between you and me really make sense, in your opinion? I'm really curious how people like you think. Do you even bother with rationality or to you just blurt out whatever pops into your head?

Well

I think if Obama is serious about establishing dialog with Iran, he needs to arrange for Khamanei to go on a nice duck hunting trip with Dick Cheney. Nothing like a little outdoor recreational activities to break the ice, right?

"Options on the table"

I'd say that's fairly indicative that all this miltary action talk has been pure rhetoric.

Oh, ex programmer Craig: you amuse me

You are expecting me to be ashamed for seeing Iran in a stronger position, yet have no shame to come on this site and advocate bombing Iran and wanting it to be  invaded by some foreign military. 

Mehrdad

End is near

Fact: Mayan calendar predicts the end of civilization to be in year 2012.

Breaking News: Dick Chaney may run for presidency  in 2012 !

//iranian.com/main/news/2009/09/01/cheney-201...

-YT 

PS

Thanks for not bothering to try to deny being a fan of the Islamic Republic. At least you have some small amount of integrity.

lol

So after it turns out that the US actually had a pretty good hand before Bush misplayed it, you respond by saying if Bush had been smarter, that would have been "dumb"?

...

dear ex programmer criag: LMAO thank you

"because if the GWB team had been thinking along the same lines I was, they would have invaded Iran in 2003, wouldn't they?"

Which only means he is not the dumbest of all, there are actually some that exceed him.

Mehrdad

Bavafa

Sounds like the type of assessment that we kept getting during the GWB era, wacky :)

Well, that's an obvious lie, because if the GWB team had been thinking along the same lines I was, tehy would have invaded Iran in 2003, wouldn't they? And you and I wouldn't even be having this discussion because you'd be in Guantanamo Bay right now.

Is your programming the same way as your assessment?

Yes, I'm very good at creative problem solving. It's too bad that Bush listened to "middle east experts" instead of C++ programmers, because any decent C++ programmer could have told him that it was a serious logic error to invade Iraq, given the program parameters.

Is this why you are an EX programmer?

I'm not an "ex" programmer. I'm ex "programmer craig" because IRANdokht deleted my original account here.

On the contrary, I am very happy to see that an illegal invasion was
defeated so bluntly by some "Arabs" that you seem to hate so much.
Sure, Saddam has died (happily on my account) but many hundreds of
thousand of innocent "Arabs" have also died (perhaps happily on your
account, not mine)

Why do you lie to me? You just said it makes you "happy" that the US was defeated. You have no basis to make a claim that teh US was defeated except for the number of dead Iraqis who were murdered by terrorists, because that is the only category in which the invasion could be considered a failure. So why lie and say it doesn't make you happy? It obviously does. You just said that it did. Are you patholoigically dishonest?

But the reality on the ground is that US is leaving, empty handed

And what exactly did you think the US wanted to "leave" with? We got our regime change, didn't we? Are you laboring under some kind of delusion that the US wanted to turn Iraq into a colony or something? If teh US wanted colonies, I sincerely doubt we would choose an Arab country! I don't want to be racist, but I can think of about 170 countries that would make better colonies and would be much easier to invade and occupy as well.

...but Iran has got stronger and in much better position then when Saddam
was in power. Now if you think US has won… good for you … you keep on
thinking that way

What does that claim, whether accurate or not, have to do with the US? And what does it have to do with what I said? You see, with that comment right there you exposed your true colors as an advocate for the IRI. It would not make you happy for the Islamic Republic to be "stronger" now than it was in 2003, if you weren't pro-IRI. Aren't you at all embarrassed showing your face onthis website, after all that has happened the last few months?

I think what makes me so mad

is that he seems so PROUD of himself.  the things I think about him are just NOT nice thoughts.  I wonder is there any chance he'll be charged with anything.

Ex programmer Craig: thanks for making me laugh so hard

Sounds like the type of assessment that we kept getting during the GWB era, wacky :)

Is your programming the same way as your assessment? Is this why you are an EX programmer?

"I'm gratified to see it upsets you so" 

On the contrary, I am very happy to see that an illegal invasion was defeated so bluntly by some "Arabs" that you seem to hate so much. Sure, Saddam has died (happily on my account) but many hundreds of thousand of innocent "Arabs" have also died (perhaps happily on your account, not mine)

But the reality on the ground is that US is leaving, empty handed but Iran has got stronger and in much better position then when Saddam was in power. Now if you think US has won… good for you … you keep on thinking that way

Mehrdad

Bavafa

And to ex programer Craig:  If your ACE
card is what they played in the country next to Iran, then they need to put that ACE where sun doesn't shin.

I'm gratified to see it upsets you so. Maybe at least one good thing came of the invasion of Iraq. Maybe people like you and what's his face blowing all this smoke about how the US doesn't have any cards to play are just covering up a feeling of insecurity? Because, face it... it could have been you. Right?

US may have massacred many Iraqis but they sure didn't win and now they are leaving with their tail between the legs. 

We didn't win? Last time I checked, the Baathist regime in Iraq was gone and Saddam Hussein was still dead. I'd sure as hell take a loss in Iran like that one! Can you imagine how graet that would be? IRI regime, gone for good. Khameini, executed on YouTube? Mullahs and Ayatollahs by the score wearing orange jumpsuits and being sodomized by redneck Army reservists?

Can I get a "Hell yeah!" on that one?

And if Saddam had started making trouble for the occupation, we might have even gotten a 2-for-1 out of it. In any case, there certainly would have been a lot less civilian deaths due to terrorism. Iranians don't seem to be very good at terrorism, and why should they be when they can just pay Arabs to do it for them? But with IRI gone and the US stealing all the oil, how could the IRI goons pay Arabs to come to Iran to murder Iranians? Yeah, sure, maybe Arabs would do that for free, but there is no guarantee right?

Seems similar fait awaits them in Afghanistan

You know what? That doesn't really worry me very much one way or the other. We didn't go to Afghanistan to turn it into a secular democracy, we went there to kill Al Qaida. And the killing has been good! When we run out of Al Qaida in Afghanistan we can get the hell out... that's fine by me. And if you want to call that "tail between your legs" - no problem! All those dead Al Qaida will still be dead.

Cheney needs to be sent to Iranian jail to be humbled

And to ex programer Craig:  If your ACE card is what they played in the country next to Iran, then they need to put that ACE where sun doesn't shin.  US may have massacred many Iraqis but they sure didn't win and now they are leaving with their tail between the legs. 

Seems similar fait awaits them in Afghanistan

Mehrdad

worst evil ever

Counting the day when this fascist is put on trail for treachery against the nation, and for war crimes against Iraqi's. It is obvious that HE was running the country and not the incompetent Bush. They should put him and Rumsfield on trial instead of those poor CIA officer who had no fault but obeying their orders.

-YT 

gol-dust

We were holding the ace of spades in 2003. But we played it on the wrong country. Shit happens, right? So now you can go off and thank your lucky stars that you dodged a bullet, and pray that  the status quo holds.

Ahmed

How about respecting everyone and treating everyone like you treat the Israelis?

How about... not? Seriously, Ahmed, how can you even suggest the US should treat the IRI the same way it treats Israel? Did Israel seize teh US embassy in Tel Aviv and hold American diplomats hoistage for over a year? Did Israel sponsor by proxy terrorsist attacks against Americans for 30 years? Did Israel wage a proxy war against the US in Iraq? Is Israel publicly stating it's intent to do harm to the US every single day?

And that's just a partial list, so.... you can't be serious. You simply can't be. No rational person could expect the US to be on the same terms with the Islamic Republic that is on with Israel.

Dr Evil

I consider myself very liberal and easy going. BUT listening to this watr-monger is enough to make me want to join Ahmedinejad!

So many diots run US government, is it any wonder we have so much problems in ME.

How about respecting everyone and treating everyone like you treat the Israelis?

Ahmed from Bahrain

It always was obvious they had no cards to play like now!

That's why anytime i read that israel is going to hit, I know that they wouldn't dare. they would be decenerated by us. BACHEH MITARSOONAN! boogy man!