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Re: Anonymous6

No comment was deleted on this article (except two of yours which were saying that comments are deleted) even if some of them are not nice, or even quite rude! So, please don't fill the page with irrelevant stuff!

Well, what do you expect from an ISLAMIC Republic?

The question is ambiguous and consequently difficult to be answered. Neverthe less I try it:
1. There are a lot of Visitores of "IRANIAN" who do expect a lot from the ISLANMIC REPUBLIC of Iran, speak : from the honourable Iranian Nation. Some wish be given thier jobs in the Time of pahlavis with Alcohol, drugs, women and and and .
2. We have just had the Ardeshir. he for example expects from Iranians - and it takes no wounder - that they dismiss Mr. Mottaki ( who is one of my Idols! ) and give him the post. And not only that: There after he wants the job of Mr. Ahmadinejad, the president. And see: HE WOULD NOT GET THE CROWN PRINCE back to Iran!
3. another group expects that the strangers should be again the masters in Iran. they worked for strangers inearlier times, were well paid, they want the old times back.
4. The myth with women emancipation, freedom of speech and communication, no censorship and all these things which in western countries exist only on the paper, well these things but up to the western models, are also expected from honourable Iranian Nation. it means: Giving up the national identity, degenerating to a rootless mass, obeyding the strangers again as thier faithfull servant. Iranians have never wanted the things this way and they are -there are very strong signs for it - willing to prevent that thoise time would ever come back.
5. Just blaming the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC because of Censorship is the most enjoyable and easy Hobby. better one looks how the censoring is practiced inthe united states of america and other western countries. Courts end for usual with a non liquet in the most cases when they have to handle a case of censorship. Because the laws end in a cul-de-sac, dead end, deadn end street, impasse. Inthe ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN the Government has the controll over media. somis for example the "IRANIAN" not available in iran. and Iranian CHAT-Sites can not bring words which we can read hier in our "IRANIAN". Each time i read those words runs cold water over my back. I imagine then how an Iranian Grand Ma would react if she could read the words! In the western countries according to the laws nothing is sacred in the public in accordance to the personalfreedom and freedom of speech and communication. The question of these private rights - an important part of constitution which were primarily thought to protect the poeple against the gevernment - is and can not be answered by the Laws in the western countruies when private persons call upon thier privet rights against another person, who has also the same rights! In Iran are these impassesnon existent. I can not call it censoreship. Incidentically I respect the idea of every body else who likes to do that. I for myself, others for themselves.Greeting

Censorship and Freedom of Speech

JJ and other admin,
Freedom of speech/expression is an absolute right in this society.

In your site you pretend to be an advocate of it by saying nothing is scared (what a joke!). Practically you are much worse than Mullahs. They don’t know anything better, you know and with your censorship with no real reason, downgrading yourself to the same level as mullahs!

This is my opinion that 'Ying Yang Paintings' in main page of Iranian.com is a trashy painting, and you don’t have any tolerance to hear it.

Go head again and delete my comment again as you did for past 12 hours.

Now is not the painting anymore it is your action and censorship that portrait you to the same low level as Mullahs

Re: Areyo

Thank you! I think I have had others pretty okay, or better ;) But being fair or balanced is not easy. I haven't been fair or balanced (judged by myself) in all my articles, though it is usually because of writing skills rather than intentions.

Re: Zion

My point is that the IRI, in order to satisfy its core base of believers and supporters, has created a system in which they (the core base) can compete relatively fairly. I do stand by this statement. People have changed in Iranian politics however because the core base in not as large as in a normal democracy these people do not change that much and that often as in a normal democracy. Of course the IRI is NOT a democracy. I didn't say this ;)

WoW! Well Well,Well

Well Ben!

I am actually impressed. This was a very fair-minded and realistic assessment. I believe this to be your best article yet. I actually agree with many of the points that you made in your article. However the most important point that you made was the necessity to know one's enemy and its points of strength and weakness before taking it on

I totally agree with you that today most of Iranian opposition are so fractured  over emotional and rationally bankrupted that they  would never see or even want to see this facts. they are not interested in knowing their enemy before engaging in a rational and systematic offencive against it. They simply refuse to get their act together and get a grip of the realities of the ground or actually get to know the nature of their problem before prescribing a solution for it.

But then again….

Some Points

Dear Ben,

You say:
`whether we accept or not there is also some democratic side to it. People do change in Iranian political arena, and they have done so very often.`
This is not true. That people change in the political arena has nothing to do with democracy. It would have a democratic aspect if people changed in the real power positions without violence, including hidden violence, and with the consent of the people. People on the front also change regularly in Mafia systems.

Besides this I agree with your main point. The Islamic Regime in Iran is a very complex structure. The amalgam of all forms of hidden problems inherent in iran and exported from abroad in a complex and dangerous way. You raise a good point.

Khomeini or British???

Outcry

The British spies did train KHOMEINI in Najaf, Iraq when SHAH OF IRAN was enjoying his wine drinking at Golestan Palace. Even HITLER and MUSSOULINI were British agents.

Hhow do you spell D E M O C R A C Y

DEMOCRACY is like a FLower:
Some want to use it;
Some want to abuse it;
Some want to cherish it
Some want to take care of it
Some want to genetically alter it;
Some want to misuse it;
Some want to make business out of it;
Some want to stay away from it (Allergic)

Who are you?

There are two sets of rule

There are two sets of rule and laws in the Islamic Republic. One for Khodi and one for Na-khodi. Here is an excerpt on definition of Fascism:

This may surprise most educated people. One of the more common government strategies today, especially in developing regions is fascism. Fascism is commonly confused with Nazism. Nazism is a political party platform that embraces a combination of a military dictatorship, socialism and fascism. It is not a government structure. Fascism is a government structure. The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems.

Simply stated, a fascist government always has one class of citizens that is considered superior (good) to another (bad) based upon race, creed or origin. It is possible to be both a republic and a fascist state. The preferred class lives in a republic while the oppressed class lives in a fascist state.

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general characteristics
of a fascist country:

1. Fascism is commonly defined as an open terror-based dictatorship which is:

Reactionary: makes policy based upon current circumstances rather than creating policies to prevent problems; piles lies and misnomers on top of more lies until the truth becomes indistinguishable, revised or forgotten.
Chauvinistic: Two or more tiered legal systems, varying rights based upon superficial characteristics such as race, creed and origin.
Imperialist elements of finance capital: Extending a nation's authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political domination of one state over its allies.

Though a dictatorship is the most common association with fascism, a democracy or republic can also be fascist when it strays away from its Tenets of sovereignty. In the 20th Century, many Fascist countries started out as republics.

Through the use of fear, societies gave up their rights under the guise of security. Ultimately these republics morphed into Fascist states.

2. Fascism is an extreme measure taken by the middle classes to forestall lower-working class revolution; it thrives on the weakness of the middle classes. It accomplishes this by embracing the middle-class' love of the status-quo, its complacency and its fears of: TOP

Generating a united struggle within the working class

Revolution

Losing its own power and position within society

In a more simplistic term the people currently in control fear that if they allow equal rights and equal consideration to those being oppressed, they will become oppressed and lose everything.

Generally those in power are of a smaller segment of society, but they hold the wealth and control of key systems like manufacturing, law, finance and government position, (i.e. the slave owners in the south prior to the civil war) and the oppressed vastly outnumber them, (the slaves during the same period).

Dear Ben: This was the first

Dear Ben: This was the first article I have read written by you. I'm not interested in offering solutions or dictating to people what they should do or not do. However, I take umberage when conventioanl political defintions are slaughtered. If you want to find a solution, you need to correctly analyze the problems. Faulty analysis leads to faulty solutions.

Islamic democracy???

Most educated people agree that there is no Islamic democracy. Religion is private matter and shouldn't be mixed with politics. The only way to save Iran from its destruction is to fight the IRI for secular federal Iran. When that day comes, all Iranians will be free.

Re: bird flu (interesting name) ;)

If you have read any of my previous articles you can see that I am NO fan of the IRI but I am totally opposed to the regime. I have always been and throughout the years of my writing for this website I have been quite steadfast on the issues I have adressed.

The Iranian regime is a dangerous, unrepresentative and unpopular one with horrible actions that it takes against Iranians and non-Iranians. But we need to analyse this regime realistically to understand how we can do anything about it. This was the main point of the article. Do you think that the only way to oppose the regime is to say "f... the regime!" ??? That won't do any harm.

Don't you think urging the public NOT TO go to vote is a much worse blow to the regime? ;)

Yes, definitely, there is

Yes, definitely, there is Islamic Democracy for the Islamists in a theofascist state. What? You don't think fascists can't be democratic among themselves??HAHAHA

Ben Madadi: Are you a used-car salesman?

Your grotesque and cheap linguistic manipultions are pathetic and reveal your utter moral bankruptcy. Joseph Goebles, chief propagandist of Hitler would be proud of you. You're putting lipstick on a pig and it's not going to work. It doesn't matter how good a salesman you are, you're not going to be able to sell something as toxic and as odious as Islamic Republic as a democracy.

This kind of semantic manipulation will only deceive the dumbset of people.

I felt as Ben's article was

I felt as Ben's article was very well balanced and well written. Yes, he is right. While the Iranian Regime is not exactly Democratic, it's nothing like what Saddam's regime used to be in Iraq. It's not a totalitarian regime. The regime does not interfer in every aspect of people's lives and as we know many Iranians lead a double life and the regime knows it. It's also true that one could disagree with the regime as long as he or she doesn't question the basic foundations of the system. However some of the atrocities, such as the murder or the Journalist in Evin Prison and the the hanging the 16 year old Atefeh in the Caspian Sea region, are not excusable by any means.

Dear Ben, just because the

Dear Ben, just because the genuine opposition groups to IR (I mean the real genuine ones not the fake garden variety kinds here and there fabricated by the regime itself) are incompetent, disunited and good for nothing, that does not mean IR is powerful and invinceable. As to why IR regime has lasted for 29 fucking years is mainly because it's got enormous oil revenues and above all there is this lack of a better tangible alternative to it.

Dear Ben, just because the

Dear Ben, just because the genuine opposition groups to IR (I mean the real genuine ones not the fake garden variety kinds here and there fabricated by the regime itself) are incompetent, disunited and good for nothing, that does not mean IR is powerful and invinceable. As to why IR regime has lasted for 29 fucking years is mainly because it's got enormous oil revenues and above all there is this lack of a better tangible alternative to it.

Re:

Why do people jump into conclusions without even having read (probably) all of the article! How can I be a pro akhund? For God's sake! Don't be so hateful guys! Have some reasoning. The Iranian regime is a powerful one and we need to analyse it realistically to have chance against it. Some would actually label anybody who does not insult and swear a supporter of the subject?? Come on guys!

I should have stopped

When I saw "islamic Democracy" ... What a joke ... yo Ben, you still trying to sell the idea of islamic cult can be democratic cult.

I stopped reading right here ->

"People do change in Iranian political arena, and they have done so very often."

Yeap ... Let me see, Khomeini stayed till he died, Meshkini was there unitl his death and so was Tavsoli, and countless other ayatoolehs. Living animals are Khameni, RasmanJani, Sanei, and countless other dogs that we have been acustome to see them for 30 years. they just change title for themselves, President and then head of this and Rahbar of that ... Just because they throw their mad dogs like ahmaghinejad and Khatami in front DOES NOT TRANSLATE TO DEMOCRACY.

who is this Ben is trying to fool? I don't need to read more lies from mouth piece of akhonds ... I HAVE HEARD IT ALL.

what is wrong with you people

i think the writer is writing a balanced argument, in which he is actually opposing the regime, though he is pointing out the realities. i think the problem is not with the government, but also with some of the iranians outside iran. all of us iranians always chat about how beautiful and gorgeous dubai and los angeles are, and how they are like heaven, but whenever it come to our country, we never say good things about the government. yet we always say that the arab emir is always helpful and generous. i think iranians should start liking their actual country right now, not the one they always imagine in their mind

what do you expect from a

what do you expect from a shameless monkey who changed is Iranian name to Ben. get lost...

Why do you write "Ben"?

You must have a ton of time on your hands and feel you are doing a lot of good by writing this kind of trash.

Please do us all a great favor and stop writing garbage.

Find something else to do with your time, please!

Khomeini or British

"The regime has been built by Khomeini in such a beautiful (or sinister), practical and functional manner that it actually perpetuates and reproduces with relative ease and harmony."

IRI structure is carbon copy of church of England. Lower ranks are always under control of few and in Islamic Republic of Iran, those few at top are british lackeys.

Stop throwing garbage at our face.