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No jews physically attended to kill any Iranians. Like Arab did under Khalid ibn Walid in history. No jews physically attended to kill any Iranians like Iraq's Arab did in 80's. The arabs killed more than 1 millions of best Iranian youths. Just vist cemetaries in Iran and you'll know what I am talking about.  They raped some women in borderline towns during their invasion as well. No jews raped Iranian women, Arabs did it also throughout the history as "Sayyid" were born. Sayyid is common title for those illegitimate children of Arabs during their invasion. In order these children to be accepted in Persian community we call them Sayyid, means, they are related to Mohammad and through Mohammad they are related to God, but in reality they are half breed arabs. The same kind of sexual assults took place in 80's under Saddam. That is just plaine simple

There are ongoing issues with the Arabian idea  at present time such as forceful Hejab and Apostasy. There is force, intimidation and threat in Arab's thinking since the birth of koran. Koran itself is a book of threat. Jews never wanted to impose idea of Judism to Iranians, but Arab  imposed their way of thinking to Iranians.

Under shah's smart leadership we were living in peace and harmony with our neighbores including jews. We never had any problem with them. All problem started when stinky mullahs by lies, deceive took power and then they wanted to expand their empire throughout Middle East. In conclusion, Sounds more legit and rational to to hate arabs and mullahs, not jews

Re: " bala tar az khatar"

It was "Impossible Mission Force" or IMF. This one sounds like payin tar az khatar! Samad agha migheh :-)

Actually my favorite was "Out of the unknown" or Kharej az donyaye na shenakheteha.

" bala tar az khatar" VPK

"Bala tar az khatar" was Farsi tranlation of "Mission Impossible". It was directed by Reza Badie once and broadcasted on Iran state T.V in late 60's. If I am not mistaking Reza Badie is currently living in Los Angeles area.

I am becoming more religous these days, which is unatheist of me

I have started praying alot... here's an example

Dear God,

Please Liberate Iran from this occupying force that does not believe in patriotism.  They abuse your name and are just an ideological group of Muslim
Internationalists who are using Iran as their platform to conquer the
rest of the world for establishing an Islamic Empire.

God, please prove to us that you exist by performing this miracle for us.

We, the people of Iran, do not want a
“Regime Change”, we, the people of Iran want the “Liberation” of Iran
from the rule of any foreign ideological domination and we, the people of
Iran, want to return to our root; Iranian culture and heritage.

amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

You might have been collateral damage to my dispute with IMF.

I think asking some question is breaking the law

I think asking question such as being on payroll by stinky mullahs or working in Basij considers "labling" and it would get deleted. In fact, I warned IMF that I can flag his/her comment as being abusive toward me, but I don't do it because I am trying to educate him/her. 

I just saw one of my posts disappear

It was not profain or a personnal attack.  A point of view, I asked if a person was a basiji traitor.

Re: I think IMF was blocked

No; he is live and well! 

My favorite IMF is "bala tar az khatar". You are probably too young to remember it! But it was a good show.

I think IMF was blocked

I just noticed that his and my comment from previous day deleted, so there is a possiblity he was being blocked. I tried to inform him about breaking I.C policy.

VPK

Indeed, my firend! Let us see if IMF or Baron whats his face will demand that Russia returns back our territory! Hah!

Simorgh

I want a revocation of the Torkemanchai treaty. I want to see all Iranian territory returned back to Iran!

So do I. By the way the Torkamanchai treaty has expired already. By law those regions are now Iranian territory. Does the "international" whatever agree to enforce this. Would be nice to see but I am still waiting to see it!.

VPK

IMF

I want the Caspian Sea back. We now have less than 20 percent control becaue your Islamic Republic buddies gave it away.
I want a revocation of the Torkemanchai treaty. I want to see all Iranian territory returned back to Iran!
I want Russia to pay reparations for the two hundred years of occupation of Iran, looting and rape.
How do you think I can get my country back from Russia?
I want some of your Palestinian gun money!

These two guys are

clear example of how dangerous radicals can be. These folks believe wholeheartedly (perhaps only while on the clock blogging) that Iran is a eutopic paradise with the theocratic regime and that everybody who disagrees with them is anti Iran (ironic, because these people could careless about Iran, the country with preIslamic heritage) and zionist.

One cannot debate or discuss rational thoughts with these people.

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IMF

You are simply incapable of rational argument that deep down I don't think you even convince yourself.
Just as you ask why does the US tax payer have to subsidise Israel I am asking why should Iran spend millions of dollars funding Palestinian militants and enter into hostilities with another country which could escalate into pure nuclear warfare?
You keep referring to the illegitimate state of Israel and the Palestinians who have been dispossessed but simply cannot compel anyone rationak explanation why Iranians should be killed through this proxy war with Israel.

You also claim that Iran is beholden to no other country but this nothing but a bare faced lie given that it has become a client state, a virtual whore to Russia and China in return for favourable protection against the US Security Council. You are quite happy to see Iran's control of the caspian ceded to Russia andeing exploited into mad bilateral trade agreements buying junk hardware from Russia such as the Topolov airplanes which have killed countless numbers of Iranian civilians.
You are quitr happy for Iran to be a virtual whore of the Russians who have in the last thirty years tried to expand its territory into Afghanistan, ravaged Georgia a few years ago and kills Chechen muslims. This is the same country which imposed the disgraceful Turkamanchai territory and less than 70 years ago invaded Azarbaijan and Gilan forming break away republics there. As an 'Iranian patriot' you seem pretty indifferent and only too happy to love your natural enemies and would gladly die for Palestinains whose Hamas leader funded by Iran calls the Persian Gulf the Arabian Gulf.
What kind of deranged mentality is this?

IMF

First of all I discuss whatever I want as long as I don't violate IC rules. If anyone is going off topic it is you with your obsession with Palestinians. You brought up the business about "Iran not needing" anyone.

Regarding the isolation it is a direct result of Islamic Republic policies. If they stopped supporting Hamas and Hizbollah USA would drop the sanctions. I am in touch with my representatives.

What I hear is just what I said: Iran needs to stop supporting terrorist groups. I agree with that and hope Iran does stop. It will once IRI is gone. And IRI will be gone one of these days. They who is Hamas and Hizbollah going to milk!

VPK, pick a topic to discuss, don't keep jumping

I wonder what you are smoking this time? No one here was discussing trade, isolation and all the jazz you are talking about. Get your head straight in debates.

just to show you what sort of non-sense you are chewing let me point you to the US trade embargos on several countries as we speak. Please take your beef to them and discuss your heart out about isolation, trade, international commerce,etc. etc.

;-)

Re: Iran does not need any other country to prosper

The world is one big community and Iran does need others. About 8-10 % of Iranians live in other nations. You bet Iran needs other countries. The world must work together. 

IMF: You do not know anything about economics? Various nations are good at different things. Since the ancient days Iran traded with others. That is where the "silk road" is from. We used to trade with China; India all the way to Greece. 

Of course Iran needs other nations. Isolation is the way to decay; no wonder Islamists are going backwards! The so called "Golden Age" of Islam was filled with trade. There were Jews; Christians and all kinds of people around.

Please read this carefully. Iranmilitaryforum

"Why should we ? We were a Zio-Terrorist bend-over then. We kept those terrorists very happy in every way" Iranmilitaryforum

So Iranmilitaryforum is saying we must put lives of million of our country men/women in danger for a bunch of lizard eater Arabs ? What an irrational thoughts, but it is true.

 Forget arabs,  buddy. I am with Iran and my people, not arabs. In fact, if I should take a side in that war between arabs and jews (which that war has nothing to do with Iran)  I will take a side with jews over those arab bastards who killed over 1 million of my people in 80's. Arabs killed 8 of my friends in that war. I see their faces right in front of my eyes as I read these garbage which is origtinated from Gaza. Sure it was not originated from the mind of patriotic Iranian person.  I hate arabs as I hate stinky mullahs who suck blood of my people for last 32 years.  

Sounds like we have palestinian or Lebanesse (who are pretending as Iranians) on this site. Say hi to your buddies in Gaza for me and let them know our Persian Gulf is Persian Gulf.

Thanks,

Siavash

Oh please, give me a break!

I don't give a *** about Israel or Palestine. I neither defend nor attack either one: it is none of my business. Now we all know that there is a game of powe play going on. This goes beyond Palestine or anything like that.

What a laugh! You are on the record saying that that the Zionists should occupy more lands of Palestinians and do not at all give up any of what they occupy. You are a big mouth lier for the Zio-Terrorists while claiming otherwise.

There should not be any partition. Iran does not need any other country to prosper unlike the Zio-Terrorists. But what has to be on the table is the map of Middle East w/o a Zionist regime. I am sure the Palestinians will gladly allow the indigeneous Jews to stay and live in a new country with Palestinians. The rest will willingly run to where ever they came from in the first place. Almost all Zio-Terrorists hold a dual citizenship, they know why!

As long as the Zio-Terrorist entity exists in its current form, it shall never adhere to International law, as we have seen in the past decades since its shameful creation. For these terrorists mass murder, torture, rape, concentration camps are all fair game to hold onto the land. They must go, otherwise there shall never be any peace in ME for anyone.

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I don't give a *** about Israel or Palestine. I neither defend nor attack either one: it is none of my business. Now we all know that there is a game of powe play going on. This goes beyond Palestine or anything like that.

It is Iran vs. Israel for power. I made my position clear and make it again: divide up the region! Have Israel take Palestine; Jordon; Egypt; Lebanon and anything to its west. Iran gets eastern Iraq; former traditional territories and central Asia. 

That will make us all happy and no reason to fight. Put it in writing and stop undermining one another. Both nations are right now trying to wreck the other. This is bad for them both. Meanwhile trade is going on behind people's back!

 why do non-Iranians such

 why do non-Iranians such as IMF and Baronavak tend to promote  the threat of Israel to Iran narrative 24/7?? Why do they want to pit these two nations against each other in a perpetual war footing?? Who are they really supproting? What is their real agenda?? War with Israel in hopes of liberating their own people?? Do they want Iranians to pay with blood and treasure  for the liberation of their own people and land??

"Whenever a separation is made between liberty and justice, neither, in my opinion, is safe." Robert Browning in 'Ceuciaja'

Related News!

In case you are wondering!

Today Gaddafi fired one of his North Korean Scud missiles towards the rebels. It fell short and landed in the desert! These are the same missiles that the Regime is using to put fear in the hearts of foreign militaries.

Today in Syria, Assad used gunboats to shoot at the protesters from the sea.

Today, Turkish foreign minister gave Assad two weeks to cut the crap, otherwise else!

Better days are ahead! No wonder the Regimis sound so unhappy today!

The debating skills of IMF & Baron

IMF: "Zio-terrorists blah blah blah, Zio-terrorists blah blah blah and what's more, Zio-terrorists blah blah blah, in addition, Zio-terrorists blah blah blah and one more time, Zio-terrorists blah blah blah".

Baron: "fake Iranians blah blah blah, fake Iranians blah blah blah, and I must add, fake Iranians blah blah blah, and let's not forget fake Iranians blah blah blah, furthermore, fake Iranians blah blah blah, and apart from that you are all fake-Iranians blah blah blah".

I knew the chances of engaging IMF in an intelligent, rational and open-minded discussion was as high as Ahmadinejad winning the sexiest man of the year award, so best leave IMF to his own devices. But for a moment there I thought it might actually be worth having a few exchanges with Barron. I was wrong. What a waste of time that turned out to be.

None-sense abound by the Zionist gang here, Part III

Israel previously had no issues or problems with Iran. We are in this position because the IR set out from the beginning to make Israel its enemy and, as the saying goes, if you play with fire.....!

Why should they have? The shah was pumping money and oil into the Zio-Terrorist regime, he supported their genocide of Palestinians, and also supported their defence Industry with Iranian money that they yet to have to pay back to Iran. Does anyone remember the Iran and Zio-Terrorist SSM project? (A Billion dollar deal, where is the Iranian money?). I as a patriot want our money back with interest, do you?

I repeat, the idea of Israel conquering countries all the way to Iran's border, is just speculative "consider all scenarios" fantasy. I wouldn't get too concerned about that.

Yes indeed! We all go to bed and sleep peacefully because you have guaranteed our safety. What other acts can you perform for us, I wonder?

But what puzzles me is the fact that as a true nationalist you still support the Islamic Republic regime which for the entirety of its 32 year rule has done everything in its power to erode and undermine the Iranian national identity, history, culture and heritage in deference to its Islamic ideology. Everything in Iran is Islamic Republic this and Islamic Republic that. There is no mention of anything "melli" anymore.

What a non-sense! Only Zio-Terrorists would try to subtract Iran's Islamic culture from Iran in the name of 'purification of Perian culture'! Islamic culture, from architecture to food, was a fundamental and a greater part of Iranian idendity even at the Shah's time. What the hell are you smoking? But if you are a maestro, try to detach your Arab genes from the semetic blood pool. The only solution is to hang yourself! No other solution would cleanse you!

How the hell as a nationalist, have you ended up being an IR supporter?

Easy, we just have to look at you and your ilk to see who you sleep with that is harmful to Iran's health! If you are a Patriot then I am a Martian! One can read the passages here and detect your Irania patriotism, at least as you define it!

We never had any problem with them once shah was on power. We will never have problem with them once Crown Reza Pahlavi take the office.

Keep smoking brother. The Pahlavis are demised even on family level let alone handling a monumental task of running Iran. Better luck perhaps to bring back Chinese Han dynasty that Pahlavis!

My last advice, if you want to fight jews, You're welcome to take your gun and go to south Lebanon and fight with them. But please don't get me and my family involve with your fight.

Can I give you the same advice on fighting IRI? Go to Iran, you home country, and fight the devil you dislike. You probably do not have a stomach to take on your own advice!

Did I make myself clear?

Yes indeed! Just like any thug such as Shabaan Bemokh would!

We apologize that our definition of loving Iran does not include "loving Israel."

Could not have been said it better!

For crying out loud man, not even the Mullahs/Islamic Republic are claiming your fantasy of Israel becoming Iran's next door neighbour, is Israel's stated policy.

What a dobious style of logic. Does Saudi Arabia border the US? Does it have to have common border with the US to be the full servant? Apparently not!

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FACT is - part 2

boro bache mozaleff. boro ghom, haaj agha bahat kaar dare.

It is you people who are itching for a war, it will solidify your miserable existence for another decade, perhaps, but times are different now - better steal and loot all you can as time is running out. Then again, there is the Hague......so there may not be a lot of places where your masters can hide.

By the way, aren't you people supposed to refrain from confrontation during ramazan, or is it that you're defending the divine?

btw, tagord...that you? 

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None-sense abound by the Zionist gang here, Part II

Why on earth would Iran have any interest in Palestine? Why is Iran the only Muslim country devoted to the destruction of Israel and the resettlement of the Palestinians to their historical home?

I am sure you have serious problems with that, don't you? We as Persians did free the Jews to go back to Palestine 2500 years ago, didn't we? We now realized our mistake and wish to do the same humane act for another deserving people. We are Persians, we must do good deeds as we have historically done it! How do you like my Persian patriotism? You don't mind if Iran takes over occupied Palestine, especially being as patritic as you claim you are do you?

Why don´t they? Because of their love for their Palestinian brothers who when push comes to shove are really Arabs.

What a statement coming from one who is genetically semite, read it as Arab! ;-)

I would expect you to show the samehatred towards Russia who for two hundred years have stollen our territory in northern Iran including what is now Azarbaijan, forced our country to sign the humiliating Turkamaninchai treaty otherwise the Tsar´s soldiers gernerals to march its troops into Tehran.

We might do that when the time is right. But for now, we like to re own Palestine as it was ours a couple of thousand years ago. We own it! How is that for my Persian patriotism? You certainly cannot have any problems with that as an "Iranian patriot", do you?

To say nothing of course that the Russians invaded Farsi speaking Afghanistan who have a long shared history with us Iranians

Really? And you must have been very upset, weren't you? So what did you do when US/NATO invaded Afghanistan and occupied it for much longer than the Russians did?

What a pussy cat you are!!!!!!

Like I said earlier, IR has been funding, arming and working with the likes of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Lebanese Hezbollah, while shouting "marg bar Israel". What else did you expect Israel to do? Just turn a blind eye, pretend there were no issues with IR and not retaliate?

You want to tell us that because of Iran's support for freedom fighters you were probably 'forced' to put your ass in Tel Aviv and work against Iran and Iranians, that is, against your 'brothers' and 'sisters'! What a marvelous logic, only a cloaked Zionist can be as shallow as you are!!!!!

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Fact is

That most Iranians (not you fake anti-Iranian profiles) don't care about Israel and the Pals, very true.  And would never spend so much time defending Israel in some online forum, that's for sure.

You can call those who do not agree with you "islamists", it won't change the fact that you are supporting a hate apartheid regime that is bent on bombing Iran and supporting Kurdish seperatist groups, the MKO, to destablize and split up Iran forever.

You people are clearly part of a subversion campaign of mulitple fake profiles to shove pro-Israel views down Iranians faces.

Now go post your video clips about how any Iranian wanting to defend Iran from attack is an "Islamist" 

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Fact is

that most Iranians (not you two-bit islamists and south lebanese terrorists) don't give a phuck about israel and the Pals.

You can call those who do not agree with you zionists; it won't change the fact that you are supporting a hated islamist regime that is bent on the destruction of Iran while your turbanned masters loot her coffers, rape her people and destroy what identity is left of her.

You people do NOT represent Iran. You are thieves and looters who now have Iranian ID cards but are no better than the first wave of savages 1400 years ago.

Now go post your video clips about your islamist pukes' military power made up of overpriced north korean junk.

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Dr. Mossadegh did not support Israel

Even the Shah believed Israel were brutal and said the American Jewish lobby were pushing around too many people.  Even the Shah wanted nuclear power (and even nuclear weapons) for Iran.   See his interview on 60 Minutes.

Why do you think they got rid of the Shah? 

Funny how these fake

Funny how these fake anti-Iranian profiles get more worked up defending Israel than they do Iran.   From this lop-sided reaction Iranians can see whose side these fake profiles like "Simorgh" are really on.

Fact is, Israeli officials have even threatened nuclear blackmail against the United States and Europe.    Israel and Zionism are a threat to humanity, including the West, and the entire Middle East, including Iran.

Some Israel supporters are frequently quoted for their explicit support of the Samson Option.  Martin Van Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, has been quoted as saying: "Most European capitals are targets for our air force....We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under."