Terrorism in America

Veiled Prophet of Khorasan
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan
09-Jan-2011
 

I do not want in any way to excuse the actions of IR. The point of this blog is to show people how terrorism is everywhere. That many nations have problems with it. And that no group is free of nut jobs who will act on hate and murder innocent people.

//www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12145076

In recent months IC has been inundated with posts and blogs saying how Iranians are uniquely horrible. That Iranians are all Islamist terrorist and the West specially American is somehow a superior breed. Now we witness a tragedy in America which has nothing to do with us. One born out of hate the political extreme has been pushing for over 30 years. Done by a "White" Western person who is neither any thing to do with us. But if a similar incident involving an Iranian had happened I shudder to imagine the blogs some people would write on IC.

I just want to get people to participate. Tell use what they think. Recognize that people are all fallible.  I for one condemn this cowardly act of murder with all my heart. I hope so do we all. However I do not hold Americans in general responsible for it. No more than holding Iranians responsible for IR. Will people finally open their eyes and see terrorism is not due to nationality. It is due to being a terrorist: it should be very obvious now.

VPK

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Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Dear MassoudA

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

First of all I do not put you and Fesenjoon in the same boat. I have a lot of respect for you as well and have not questioned either your dedication or motives.

What makes you think that I put myself above you? What makes you think I question your motives. I have said many times I understand where the pro-sanction and even pro-war people come from. I understand their reason and part of me {less than 50%} agrees with them. When I see an Iranian stoned or hanged I do want a US bomber to shove a missile right up AN and Khamenei's you know where.

Fesenjoon has written a lot of blogs which one do you want me to read please post a link to it. 

Second I wrote this blog for one reason only. Please read this: I want to show the every nation has its insane. It just happens that in Iran they run the government. 

I did not write this blog about NIAC. It has nothing to do with NIAC. I have my own reservations about NIAC specially about  some like Reza Aslan.To me it is not black or white; it is gray. I wrote a whole blog on it and I invite you to read it and add your input:

//iranian.com/main/blog/veiled-prophet-kh...

Third. We need to learn to live with opposing points of view. If not we shall never have peace. It is impossible to have everyone agree always. This was Shah mistake and IR's mistake. I disagree with Mehrdad many times but I respect him. I disagree with you sometimes but I respect you. I almost always agree with MM but I still respect him!! :-) 


masoudA

Dear VPK

by masoudA on

I have a lot of respect for you - as you know.   Except of-course when it comes to NIAC.....but that is a whole different thing.

I fully understand what you intend to do - calming America against any harsh actions that may hurt the people of Iran.   Don't you think that is also what we want? - we meaning people like me and Fesenjoon.   How dare you think we want otherwise ?   and how dare you think your are smarter than the rest of us on how to protect the people of Iran?   Of-Course Iranians are not terrorists - otherwise IR would not have to import terrorists into Iran.   Do you think the world does not know that?   But your sentiments protects IR - do you get that?  We need to figure out a plan that protects the people but attacks IR - your plan protects both - get it? 

Also know - if America does not make any plans in which people of Iran get hurt - it is not because of people like you (who overlook a catastrophy called state sponsored terror), but people like me who have proven have the best in mind for Iran and America. 

BTW - Fesenjoon started a Blog - I wish for you to read it and the comments...


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Ok... then

by Doctor mohandes on

The case is setteled and i guess we should take fesenjoooon;'s questiones in a next edition... :))) since he is gonna be watching  the game tonite, he has no time and neither does Vpk.

so ladies and gents... thanks for watching and we will see you next time.

(major funding for this programm has been provided by... Sara palin's man goh khordam foundation)

 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Ostad I mean Doctor Mohandes

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Man jang va dava  nadaram. Faghat mikham neshon bedam ke divaneye zanjiri fagat too Iran peyda nemishe. Khanome Palin khodesh zangiriyeh :-) 

In short: my whole point was that we have nut jobs everywhere. Except in Iran they run the government. In the USA we got precociously close to having them run things. 

BTW: I do care about America. I disagree with those who say they don't care about America. I do care about America and I do condemn the cowardly act of that man.


Fesenjoon

More fallacies by VPK

by Fesenjoon on

1. I'd like to see where I have written anywhere that "Iranians are uniquely evil." Please provide link. Otherwise sedato begeer eenghad zer nazan.

2. I dont care about terrorism in America because here there is a system of justice (albeit partial). In Iran the system of justice does not exist.


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Baba VPK jan

by Doctor mohandes on

I am  not endorsring nor supporting this man's views! I don't even want to get into commenting on what is right or what is wrong and should or should notbe included.

All i am saying is that is whathe meant. Stop being a Khoroos jangi:)))


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Dear Doctor Mohandes

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

I am trying to have a discussion to disprove the allegations that terrorism is somehow limited to Iranians. That is my point. Now I could also bring up Al Queda or Fidel Castro or Gandhi but what does "Gooz have to do with Shagigeh"?


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

MasoudA

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Now your post regarding   Prime  Minister Julia Gillard -  Australia  has nothing to do with my blog. Why are you bringing that in this issue? This whole blog was meant as a response to accusations that Iranians are uniquely evil. An accusations by Fesenjoon.

How the heck does this add to the discussion? I was just trying to prove that insanity is not an Iranian trait; it is  a human trait. If you would listen more and shout less you may actually communicate. As it I see no point in discussion with either you or Fesenjoon. With people like you guys in charge during the Pahlavi no wonder we had a revolutions. And no wonder the true nut jobs took over.


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vpk

by Doctor mohandes on

the gentleman was merely talking about the situatiion in iran and NIAC's involvement with it and not this case.

:)))


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Response 3 NIAC

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Now I have no idea why NIAC was mentioned. FBI is welcome to investigate NIAC I am sure they had absolutely nothing to do with this incident. In fact NIAC is partially funded by National Endowment for Democracy. It is also a tax exempt USA organizations. Perfectly legal and legitimate. You may not like what they say but they are legit 100%.

Why do you people mix up things that have nothing to do with one another? What does NIAC have to do with any of this tragedy. Please do not mix things up.

Why does hate blind people to such extent. 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Response 2 to MasoudA

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

My whole blog is not about comparing American and Iran. The point is that some like Fesenjoon claim MOST IRANIANS are terrorists. I am trying to show that it is not the case. That terrorism and insanity is not confined to Iran.

It just happens that in Iran the nuts run the government. In USA there are at least some sane people in charge. Not all sane but many. We did get dangerously close to having a psychopath named Palin as VP. Thank God not.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Response 1

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

Fesenjoon says: I care about the terrorism in Iran, not America

Well I live in America and have kids here and I do care about America. I do care about terrorism in America. If you want to live here you better start caring. If not I suggest you pack up and go.  


Niloufar Parsi

no one does

by Niloufar Parsi on

state-terrorism better than uncle sam. well done.


masoudA

Dear COP

by masoudA on

I am with you - I also don't like her steping out of the boundaries of secularism - but that is where things are headed - whether we like it or not.   I just wanted to point that out - and say I do like it and find it neccessary.

I am sure you agree with me that this is not the route the free world would want to take by choice - it is totally a reaction against expansion of hardcore Islam and Shariia laws. 


Cost-of-Progress

masoud

by Cost-of-Progress on

aside from the "chrisitan this and god that" references, I totally agree with the letter. Religion gives me the creeps specially when a government offical "preaches" it.....gee .....why is that, I wonder?

I believe this letter should be posted in Europe's newspapers, say in France, England and other places where muslims have escaped their hellhole and have arrived in the infidel West, but insist on practicing barbaric 7th century sharia law.

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IRAN FIRST

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Bavafa

MasoudA: That is exactly what it is… bla bla bla

by Bavafa on

What that essentially says, is my way or high way and same kind of none-sense illogical and moronic rhetoric is also often heard from IRI, Saudis, Pakistanis or Taliban. So, I wouldn't go and proudly display that.

Mehrdad


masoudA

Bavafa

by masoudA on

bla bla bla ----- you keep on harping the old tune.

Here is an e-mai I recieved from a hamvatan today - it is about the latest words of Julia Gillard the Australian PM. You can call them all terrorists, but that is where things are headed. Thank God for that.

The whole world needs a leader like this!
 

Prime  Minister Julia Gillard -  Australia  

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..  
Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:
  
  

 'IMMIGRANTS,  NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.. Take It Or Leave It. 

I  am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '  
  
'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'  
  
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!' 
  
'Most  Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented It  is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.' 
  
'We  will accept your beliefs, and will not question why All  we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and  peaceful enjoyment with us.' 
  
'This is OUR  COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you  are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE  RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
 

 'If you  aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to  come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.' 

Maybe if we  circulate this amongst ourselves in Canada & USA and Europe, WE will find the courage to start speaking and voicing the same truth.   

 


Bavafa

"Federal investigation"

by Bavafa on

If it does happen, it surely wouldn't be the first time that US government resort to the same tactic that IRI has been deploying against its citizen on a daily basis, that is fear and intimidation and if that does not work prison or assassination.

And could it be possible that you are in fact so brainwashed that you don't get it. Beside SP and a few others, no one disagrees with the state sponsored terrorism against Iranians by the terrorist IRI. But those with a more objective and honest view, can easily see that this strategy is not a practiced solely by IRI. In fact when it comes to Iranian people and middle east in general, US and its gang have been the oldest and boldest terrorist on the block and it has been fighting to keep this monopoly to itself. Most of Arab backward and vicious dictators are the puppet of US and only in power because of US. Likewise, IRI owes its reign terror to US as they came to power solely as a result of US policies.

And yes bombing Iran much like they did in Iraq is a State sponsored terrorism and a war crime.

Mehrdad


masoudA

Dear VPK

by masoudA on

You are overlooking one important factor.   Terror activities can be "random" acts or they can be well organized and sustained - or even worst they can be sponsored by a government (state sponsored terrorism).   What we have in Iran is state sponsored terrorism targeted first and foremost at Iranian citizens.   Whether knowingly or un-knowingly you and NIAC are shielding a government that lives on terror.   NIAC does that under the innocent banner of "No War" and saving Iranian lives - but let me assure you - sometimes not too far away - NIAC is going to go under serious Federal investigations - a process in which many good hearted individuals such as yourself may get hurt.  I think your first instincts may be to call me a war monger hoping for bombs to fall on Iran..........but what I am saying here is so logical and transparant it will only take a brainwashed zombi not to get.  


Fesenjoon

I care about the terrorism in Iran, not America

by Fesenjoon on

Since my name has personally been mentioned here by the blog's author, I'll go ahead and say:

Ive already answered your attacks against me here.


Cost-of-Progress

Pema County Sheriff

by Cost-of-Progress on

Clarence Dupnik said it best when he blamed the hateful right wing nut case commentators (radio or TV) for inciting hatred and intolerence and the creation of an atmosphere of resentment when they rant about government and promote anti government sentiments. Add to that a dose of easy access to guns and a mentally unstable and deranged right wing nut job and you have the OK City bombing and this tragedy.

If you look at all these cases from Ruby Ridge to Waco to OK City to Tucson and countless others, right wing extremism and anti government thugs are the common factors. I believe the rational American, or westerner in general, understands this all too well. However, ordinary people as well as some of those with a little bit of education still have a hard time when they see a bunch of men with facial hair and fists in the air shouting "marg bar Amrikaa" on their TV screens. The case of the Stanford professor is a biased one as the guy is obviously mad at the Islamist regime's anti Israeli stance, and is stupid or hateful enough to paint all of us with a wide brush,  as is normally the case. 

 

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IRAN FIRST

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Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

The silence

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

from Iranian right is deafening. Where are all the condemnations? Now if this was a Muslim or an Middle Eastern or God forbid Iranian. There would be tens of posts all telling us how terrible Iranian people as a whole are. But now nothing. No! They are too "Patriotic" to say anything to upset the far right.Where are you "Fresenjoon" how about you "AO"? Where are you to condemn this? Are your condemnations only reserved for Iranians. Only we are the bad guys in your minds.

Maybe some are to embarrassed to comment. But I know there are honorable Iranians on the right so why the silence? I challenge all to condemn this cowardly act. The fu**** murdered a nine year old girl; what a coward. Sign this:

//act.credoaction.com/campaign/palin_violence...


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Palin

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

In my opinion Palin is accessory to murder and should be investigated. She clearly went out of her way to declare this woman marked for death. In effect that put a bounty on the congressman head head. Palin belongs in a mental ward.


Niloufar Parsi

vpk good point

by Niloufar Parsi on

totally agree. there's good and bad everywhere. but you know it's one thing to state this truism, and another to actually believe it. i think this battle is only just beginning...

peace


MM

VPK

by MM on

Terrorism does not recognize boundries.  Oklahoma city bombing was the first sign that the US has a home-grown terrorism problem and it continues with this idiot who probably saw the picture of the congresswoman in Palin's website with a big target on her forehead and though that it would be cool to bring the picture to fruition.

The trouble is that the public is just more sensitized to Muslim terrorism.


Bavafa

Good blog and just timely

by Bavafa on

Good blog and just timely to point out that callous people exist every where, in every religion, color or race. To judge the entire group by the act of few is prime definition of racism and bigotry.

Mehrdad