Netyanyahu: The Red Line must not be crossed.

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Netyanyahu: The Red Line must not be crossed.
by Simorgh5555
05-Mar-2012
 

 

You may not like to hear it from Netanyahu but he is right. Within months if not a matter of weeks the IR will reach a zone of immunity. For Netanyahu and Israeli hawks this means the point when the IR will be able to enrich high grade uranium to such a large extent making it impossible for any military action to take place without a human catastrophe. The veracity of such an assertion by the Israeli propaganda machine is debatable.

 

However, for all Nentanyahu's arrogance, his unconscionable tactics to persuade and bully the Palestinian Authority to agree to Israel's unilaterally drafted terms and conditions for his model of a two-stage solution the man is right.

 

There will be a point where unless there is a regime change in Iran, Khamenei and his wretched cronies of mullahs in the Council of Guardian and the Assembly of Experts will continue to rule Iran with an iron fist for the next 50 years. The IR indeed will become another North Korea, Republic of China or Castro's Cuba where by rein of power will become a permanent fixture in the country defeating the aspiration of Iranians to establish universal human rights and a democratic government separating power from church and state. The question is not whether a nuclear armed Iran will become an existential threat to Israel but whether a fully armed Iran will send a message to all opponents of the regime regardless of ideology that it can never be defeated, not in our lifetime anyway. It will send a message to Iranians that it can execute 500 'official' Iranians every year (and not the 200 secret murders of political detainees in Iran's notorious prisons as documented by Human Rights Watch and Amnesty) and ignore calls for a moratorium; it will send a message that it can arrest and imprison journalists on a whim and even murder them like Omid Mir Sayafi and pass a death sentence on others such as Saeed Malekpour; it can give prison guards condoms to rape women and men protesters without rebuke; it can pass a death sentence by stoning on women such as Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani ignoring interntional calls for a stay of execution; it can execute minors such as 16 year olds such as Atefeh Rajabi without due process; it can continue to imprison opposition leaders including a former prime minister and violently clampdown on opposition rallies, clubbing and shooting indiscriminately at protesters; it can continue to impose a medieval Sharia law dominated by Islamic clerics who control the judiciary and empowered to select candidates who are Muslims; they can continue to persecute religious minorities and threaten to kill apostates such as Yousef NaderKhani.

 

Netanhyahu is right. There will be a point of no return especially as all remnants of the opposition in Iran is dead. Its sorry excuse for a leader, Mousavi and Karoubi are under house arrest having instilled false hope to bring about change as part of their sham reform movement which has withered away. Iranians need material support from the international community to help realize their hope for liberation. If diplomacy could change the Islamic Republic and stop it from sponsoring terror and force it to change its behaviour to conform to international standards of human rights domestically then it should have worked by now. NIAC and the so called Peace movement advocating friendly engagement with the IR have achieved nothing in the last thirty years which they can proudly demonstrate to the world that Khamenei and his cronies can be reasoned with. Executions have increased. Nothing in the way of democratic reform has been achieved and Khamenei has even announced that he may even abolish the post of President. Academics and protesters continue to be detained, tortured and killed.

 

The Middle East has enjoyed an Arab Spring, the countries of the former Eastern Bloc have broken away from the evil control of the Soviet Union, Glasnost, Perestroika and the solidarity movement took place bringing with it a wind of change for its people but Iranians are still swamped in the same cesspit thirty years ago. Milosevic, Gaddafi and Saddam all gone. Iranians still have Khamenei.

 

Netanyahu and Obama are debating as to where the 'red line' is. The Islamic Republic has already passed the red line. It has transgressed and needs to be punished. Enough is enough.

 

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Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Simorgh

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Please do not put words that I did not say in my mouth. I never said any of the stuff you attributed to me. This is what I say:

  • Israel is neither able nor willing to free Iran. It lacks the military power. Get it in your head. The only nation with that ability is USA. It should be therefore left to America to decide what to do. And when to do it.
  • Obama has got his plan based on sanctions and "others". But Obama is wise and does not broadcast his plans as does wind bag Netanyahu. Remember Bush made all the noise but Obama got OBL.
  • It is flat out stupid to put any trust in Israel or MEK. They have both proved over and over they lack basic sense both in politics and action. 

MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Simorgh Jan

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

It's not you or me who has to endure the burdens of the very sanctions and war that some in the west propose. Ask the average Iranians what he thinks of them...


Simorgh5555

Moosir Jan

by Simorgh5555 on

Giving false hope to millions of Iranians. Preteding that you can actually change the nature of the beast which is the Islamic Republic is the poison. It is the same poison you are still administering to the Iranian people with promises of change from within. The Iranian people have delivered their verdict on the political system and its regime. They don't bdlieve in it. They don't want any of it. The IR Terror regime and charlatans such as Mir Hussein Mousavi will be shut up for good.

I really don't want to be an armchair general. I don't want to sit here on Iranian.com fantasizing about regime change. Thats what you want. Complacent l, self-satisfied, taking for granted all the freedoms you take for granted living in Imperialist and Zionist controlled America. Its easy for you.........far......far...far.........far.....away from all the daily crap which normal Iranians have to endure.


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

Armchair warrior Simorgh's poison

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

Armchair advocates need to head to Iran and free it themselves instead of prescribing dangerous and misguided policies from the comfort of living room in the west. They need to stop pandering to those who want to bring about death and destruction to Iran. Their policy of war and mass destruction of Iranian people and land must end.


MRX1

You got it right Simorgh

by MRX1 on

at many levels. The only solution has always been some kind of military action to change the regime, the rest is hocus pocus and  bowl shit, green, yellow, red reformist you name it.............

The real solution  is the extermination and yes killing of thousands of basij and pasdars. No need to mince the words that's the reality.  There is no clean and easy way out of this mess. Blood has to be shed better theirs than us.

They problem is the kind of military action Israel and/or U.S will be advocating is destroying bunch of uranium enrichment plants and destruction that piece of junk nuclear reactor in Busher so where is that going to take us?


Simorgh5555

VPK

by Simorgh5555 on

You keep harping on about countries, alliances and friendships. The support for Israeli military intervention has nothing to do with forging alliances between Israel and Iran. It has nothing to do with strengthening good will. It has nothing to do with Netanyahu taking on the burden of liberating Iran. Netanyahu may very well be a dispicable fellow but his determination to confront the IR is opening up a window of opportinity for Iranians and if opposition groups of all ideologies were smart enough they would be preparing right now to create a post IR administrative government. I couldn't care less whether it Israel, the Palestinians or the Swedes who confront the IR it has to be done. To pretend that the IR can be toppled through election boycots and sit down protests is like Alice thrugh the looking glass. You know very well it cannot happen. Do you think the MEK, an anti-American Marxist group has any love fot Israel? Do you think Rajavi is a raving Zionist in her hijab? This is all real politics and something which the MEK understands and the failed mainstream Iranian opposition has failed to understand. Military action whether in the guise of surgical strikes or counter terror of the IR is the only solution. Future? What future does Iran have with this wretched regime? You want more of the same well I do not. I do not want to sit here on my PC for the next 30 years afsoos khordan over the next political prisoner of the day or the next poor bastard who has been raped and murdered in Evin prison.
This is going to be your life for the next fee decades. Come here on
Iranian.com and fantasie about Free Iran and reminisce about the good old days before Khomeini.
As for Mossad having allegedly refused to back the Shah? The Shah has only himself to blame after having sent him twice to exile and even refused Saddam Hussein's advice to assassinate him.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Big Mistake

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

People who in desperation or otherwise put their hopes in Israel are wrong. Or are disingenuous. Israel is not out to restore Iran to its old self. Nor does it have the power to do it even if it wanted. Israel is out for itself only.

I watched an interview with an Israeli intelligence officer who said in 1979? Shah asked them for help. He wanted Mossad to kill the Ayatollah. Israel turned him down claiming "Mossad is not in the business of executions": Right!

Forget Palestine or Israel they are not our business. Don't ask them for help because it will not happen. Netanyahu is pissing Obama off by trying to run USA foreign policy and ruining any chance of a future Iran and Israel alliance.


Arash Kamangir

Bibi has always been right

by Arash Kamangir on

Nethan Yahoo has always warned about the IR's expansion plans back in 90's and in recent years about IR nuclear programs. However it was a catasrophie for free world when someone liberal with islamic roots such as obama became the president of USA and Bibi said it right to call this "catasrophal". I am very glad to see that Bibi has decided to take action with or without USA. Israel will prevail like always.


Disenchanted

Of tits & injus"tits"! :-)

by Disenchanted on

 

  ...Are you saying there was some injustice done to khodshifteh's tits?! Like she was not endowed justly! :-) But who I am to say that! After all you are the psycho-analyst and know all about Injustits! :-)

  ... I have a feeling an average Palestininas can't tolerate our Mullas for too long!

  P.S. One more reason not to go public NUDE! It subjects one's private parts to public commentary! I am not at faults folks!


Simorgh5555

You wouldn't know what injustice is....

by Simorgh5555 on

.......if it came in the form of Golshifteh Farahani's tits!
Criticizing Israel's policy is entirely legitimate but not when it is a thread in relation to the IR. Because the Israek is bad Iran is good. If thid was a thread related to genocide in Rwanda you will still bring up Israel like a rabbit out of a hat. I have heard you criticize injustices in Palestine but very little of 'everywhere'.
I truly envy the Palestinians. They do not have a Council of Guardians to vet candidates for elections and there women do not have to wear a Hijab. You know what? There is even a Palestinian beer festival. Fancy that! Your Palestians in the West Bank, depite the Israeli Occupation are light years ahead of Iranians. The day we can have a beer festival in Iran......dream on.


Disenchanted

Thanks for the psychoanalysis! :-)

by Disenchanted on

 

    Exactly because I care about Iranians I oppose the WAR that you are so keen to start! How many Iranians IRI executes a day? a year? Israel is going to kill thousands in a single day, of course by MISTAKE! One bomb accidentally hits a hospital in Tehran! Hum...

    -- I have no beef with Jews. I admire many of them. They are among the most informed critics of Israel. Nazis were bunch of despicable, racists that committed an unconscionable crime. Only that their victims are capable of doing that to others! I say much about Palestinians suffering. However I am concerned that one day if they are the rulers they would do the same to Jews and other people. We have to be very mindful of human nature! So I harbor no bias against no one. I call injustice as I see it!


Simorgh5555

Disenchanted- Iranians are as human as Palestinians

by Simorgh5555 on

I do not doubt that democracy in Israel has been endangered by the unpleasant factions of the Israeli Right but this blog is about the lack of ANY democracy in Iran amd human rights abuses carried out by the Islakic Republic unrivalled anywhere in the world.

No matter how many Iranians are executed you justify your complacency and your indifference of Iranian people by distracting yourself with Israel and the Palestinian war. If Israel kills Palestinians in Gaza it therefore rationalises the killing of Iranians. The killing of your OWN people is dwarfed by the suffering of Palestinians which is infinitely more important than Iranians. Palestine is written into your binary code not because of any love for them either but because of the Jew hate passed down from generation to generation. It started with the Jewish jokes and then the member of your family who alleged that they were ripped off by a Jew and how they loved money. One of your grandparent told you that the Jews are Najis and you laughed it off but the hatred has already been implanted. Then the contant IR propaganda and manufactured sympathy towards Palestinians was enough to seal.the deal. You deny it to yourself but the prejudice is within you. You have a Jewish friend to convince yourself that you are not a bigot but you can't help it. You use the word Zionist as a euphemism for 'Jew'. Like Pendare Nik, Israel has become your hobby regardless of any suffering in Iran or any other part of the world. Keep it up. You have your parents to thank for your past time. Khosh bash. Iran does not need you and your ilk.


Disenchanted

Simorgh, article is written in NEW YORKER not by me! :-)

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    Did you notice that?!Did you read the article? It is not about Palestinians, it is about SAD state of Israel democracy! Of course subjugation of Palestinians is one of elements of the corruption!... Don't shoot the messenger :-). Perhaps you not put me at fault if you read my comments on other blogs as well!

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Simorgh5555

Disenchanted

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Disenchanted sadly embodies the reason why the IR will continue to exist for thr next 35 years or more. The sheer inability to divorce the Paleatinian issue from Iran. The indifference of people like Disenchanted to the suffering of millions of Iranians who have to endure hardship and suffering equal if not greater than Palestinians which is 1/70th of Iran. Far away from the daily torture, executions, imprisonment, rape and ecological and environmental desteuction of Iran exiles such as Disenchanted have found a new distraction: Palestine. The greatest of all betrayal.


Disenchanted

NEW YORKER ARTICLE ON SAD STATE OF ISRAEL DEMOCRACY!

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Another copy of Ahmadinejad

by darius on

The only thing I can say is that I was watching Ahmadinejad with all those lies and craps with one difference, he pronounce H as KHe. His speech was like a combination of Fred and AH.the  old scratched LP33 

shushtari

I just saw his speech on fox...

by shushtari on

and I agree.....the jews, especially a warmonger like bibi, have no right whatsoever to decide what is right or wrong for iran!  it was not too long ago, when the israelis where kissing our asses in the 1970s....when iran was THE superpower in the middle east!

however, he is absolutely right that the akhoonds are not building burried bunkers to produce 'medical isotopes' and you're not going to find medical isotopes on a missle build by the akhoonds on it's way to israel.....

it's pretty obvious the mullahs are after the bomb, and it's pretty glaring that the jews and the US will likely not go for that-

so there is only one option- to topple the akhoonds to get rid of this 'threat'.....there is no way israelis are going to attack and leave khamenei standing-

by listening to him giving his 'shpeel' to the jews at aipac, I would bet anyone that they are going to attack iran- I would say it's pretty much 95% guaranteed- which is horrible- because we all have family back home......