Sargord Pirouz

wow - 94 comments, and all forgot the picture!

I think the picture is very interesting, and maybe even telling.

I was just curious why the right eyebrow of Khomeini is up to his ammaameh like he is scorning Khamenei next to him?  And, why does Khamenei look emotionless, like a deer looking at the headlight?

Also, why is Khomeini's picture so much bigger than Khamenei's?  Either Khomeini had a larger head or, as usual, IRI used an incompetent employed relative to do the editing, and the guy was clueless about perspective!

BTY, on Jan. 1979, I heard someone say "this regime will last for another 2500 years".   Guess what happened on Feb. 1979?

Sargord your getting a beating

Sargord your getting a beating from countless of people here. i think it's better for u to go and do taa'waf around khomein's shrine and say "labaayk,  labaaayk ya imam khomeini !!!"  besides we are all either Taghoots here or kaffir i dont think it's mustaahab for u be conversing with us. go recite zyaaraat al khomeini from mofati jannan and inshallah may your tawaasul to the wilayat faqhi fulfill your prayers/wishes inshallah.   salaawat al khameini wa'alleh khameini !!!!!  sargord u know and i know I.R.I./Wilayat Faqhi is not a Political thought for you it is your Religion. this is a religious commitment and orientation for you. have u ever researched this idea of wilayat faqhi before u gave bay'aat to it ?? im willing to bet in your head because khomeini said it and since he is the hujjat of allah then that's all u need. no need to question khomeini huh?

Delusional Magas

برنامه روزانه Kharmagas :
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ساعت ۲۳: لعنت فرستادن و نفرین کردن روانپزشک، داغون کردن مانیتور
ساعت ۱ نصف شب: ۲۰ تا قفل زدن به در و خواب

Sargouz Pirouz

سرگرد گوز، تو منو یاده ازهاری زمان شاه می ندازی ؛ اون موقعها مردم براش یه شعاری درآورده بودن که اینجا برات آپدیت شدش رو می نویسم: "بسیجیه گوساله بازم بگو نواره، نوار که پا نداره!".

تو هم شاید بهتر باشه همون کاری رو که برادر بسیجیت "Q" انجام میده رو بکنی ... دفعاتی که پایه این علی گدا رو ماچ مکنی از یه بار در هفته افزایش بده به هفت بار در هفته، شاید واقعا همینطوری که "Q" میگه بشه و این کار از انقلاب جلوگیری کنه ... ضمنا یادت نره که ماچه آبدار بکنی، شاید تاثیرش بیشتر باشه ... LOL

ضمنا، لازم نیست کسی انقلاب رو پیش بینی کنه؛ اگه منظور یه انقلابی مثل انقلاب ۵۷ هست که تاحالا چندین بار بعد از ساله ۵۷  شبیهش و یا حتی با مقیاس بیشتر انجام شده. تنها فرقش این بوده که ساله ۵۷ شاه اینقدر شرف داشت که وقتی دید مردم نمی خوانش، پاشد رفت؛ اما انگلهای ضدایرانیه حزب اللهی, به واسطه ی انگل بودنشون به این راحتی نمی شه از شرشون خلاص شد ... ولی خوب بازم انجام شدنیه و به زودی انجام خواهد شد.

MK Hahaha, How did you he

MM: Hahaha, How did you he was my great grand pa??LOL

Intellectual cowardice

is to turn your back on your people while they are being raped, and supporting their rapists.

Today Majid Tavakkoli got 8.5 years jail. For what? You call this law and order?

How many Iranian publications have been banned in the last 6 months? This is law and order? Did this happen in France and the United States when they were dealing with their "undercurrents"?

As far as anti-Iran meaning "anti present Iran", I have news for the fascist major. Iran is much more than "present Iran". It was here long before your Islamic Fuehrer was in power, and it will be here long after this scum is under the ground being eaten by worms. Iran and Iranians have survived centuries of fascist rapists and scum like those that waffen SS major defends, and will too survive the true anti Iran force today- the camp of waffen SS major and his Islamic Fuehrer. You and your clan are nobody to equate yourself with such a rich deep rooted and strong concept as Iran. So anti Iran is not anti IRI. Anti Iran is YOU AND IR rapist government that you support.

You ask for predictions? You are in no position to demand anything, after you fail to take a position in defence of the Iranian people.

But here is one prediction- the Islamic republic as we know will never be able to calm the discontent unleashed after June 12, 2009. Or as waffen SS major calls it, the "undercurrent". That is right- no amount of rape, torture, imprisonment, terrorism, and fascism (or as waffen SS major calls it- "law enforcement") will ever calm this down again. You want the date and month and year? Here it is- June 12, 2009. That was the day that the Islamic republic dug a hole that it will never emerge from. There is no going back. From that day on, it became a true police state, that stays in power only with open warfare on its population.

As far as civil unrest, it is the IRGC junta that started the first unrest, not the people. The people came out in peaceful protests, and were attacked by the Islamic fascist SS. So if you are against civil unrest, you should take it up with your master, AN. WIll you do that? Or will you be an intellectual coward and blame the victim, not the rapist?

I thought so.

NP, I see your desire to engage those who think differently than you do, and no you don't rub me the wrong way. But I have two pieces of food for thought for you

1- the regular military and conscripts in them serve Iran. The IRGC does not. Regardless of your position on having conscripts in the first place, when a person joins the Iranian military, they are there to defend the Iranian territory and people. When they join the IRGC, they swear to defend the Islamic revolution, and take no oath whatsoever towards Iran. So no, I do not consider the IRGC as an Iranian military arm. It is a stateless terrorist organization, and waffen SS major is a supporter of this fascist organization.

2-To call the supporter of a military government fascist is not harsh. It is just calling a duck a duck. On June 12, 2009, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Ali Khamenei, and the IRGC conducted a military coup, and Ali Khamenei in front of the whole world declared war on the Iranian people. To me, there is no discussion to be had with murderers and rapists of my people. I would not seek a "dialogue" with Saddam Hussein or with Genghis Khan, and I seek no "dialogue" with AN or Khamenei or waffen SS major either. They are all murderers of Iranians. waffen SS major had every opportunity to make his stance clear with respect to the Iranian people that have peacefully protested and have been raped murdered imprisioned tortured and kidnapped by the terrorist IRGC and coup elements, and he has consistently stood with the oppressors. If he stands with his people, that is different.

But so far he has not. So he is with the fascists. He has no honor, nor a country. The girls of Iran are being raped behind closed doors, the peaceful bright youth of Iran are being beaten and tortured and destroyed, all for just asking "where is my vote?", and he is defending it.

Think about it.

So waffen SS major, you have a choice. Side with your people. Or continue to turn your back on them and betray them by defending their oppressors. Very simple.

-Fair

Sargord, kaaret tamome!

Sargord, mofattesh Vildee joon is on your case! Among other things her ghaafelgiraneh methods are famous and run in the family, I am sure you have heard of her grand grandfather, jenaabe Nayeb Teymourkhan:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSdHlYUgjvo&feature...

Great job Sar Bord: Great

Great job Sar Bord: Great document to Indicte the IRI when the mullahs and their cronies are brought to justice.

Good job of compiling the evidence against the IRI. This is going to be very useful in determining the motives and intention of the IRI's atrocities. Keep up the good work!!!!!!!!

Please save this document before he deletes this blog.

Sargourd, I don't have any prediction

Sargourd, I don't have any prediction, however I hope for a gradual transformation of IRI to RI (Republic of Iran)......

Good one, Mehdi :)

All right, now. We have our first prediction.

See how silly this anti-Iran cheerleading is?

My advice is to take a deep breath, remain objective and do not jump in the direction of wild expectations or outrageous conclusions.

Keep it real, people. Keep it real. 

Congratulations Sargord

For creating such a heated fruitful dialog!

BTW, my prediction was for May 2045. In fact, i will be more precise, May 16, 2045 at 10:23 AM - that's when the regime will implode! :-)

دشمن دانا بلندت ميكند. بر زمينت ميزند نادان ِ دوست

Still no predictions?

For all the jumping up and down in mindless fits of triumphalism, for all the cheerleading of every little bit of negative news out of Iran, for all the armchair encouragements for violent resistence to take place on 22 Bahman-

No predictions yet for month & year of the downfall of the IRI.

And who said anything about gambling? We're merely speculating.

regarding Anti-Iran cheerleaders!

Actually Sargord Pirouz's expression perfectly describes many. Some high profile examples of that type are Makhmalbaf and Sazegara. Sazegara has been working for/with AIPAC, and Makhmalbaf has gone so far with Iran's enemies that he more or less talks like extremist American republicans when it comes to talking about Iran's nuclear program. These two are being exposed even by the greens although both of them are "green", and both of them defected not too long ago!

Needless to say that majority of Monarchists are old timers in that crowd! 

جناب آقای هواخشتره و حاجیه خانوم آستروید دامتان برکات

این بدبخت بیچاره‌ها همشون تو گلٔ گیر کردن.  طفلکیا اقلاً با هفت تا اسم اومدن اینجا جیرجیرک همدیگه شدن. این بوقلمون‌ها عهد زمان شاه وزوزک پابوس سردار علیاحضرت بودن حالا هم پابوس سردار عمامه شدن. هر درباری همیشه نیازی به دلقکی دارد.  وگرنه کدوم حرومزاده جنایات این ولایت فقیر رو میتونه انکار یا تصدیق کنه.

صمد آقا، خدا اون انگشتهای تو رو قوت بده

که چشو چاله این پشه‌های عربده کش رو با انگشت کلامت سوراخ کردی. دمت گرم و شیر ننه آقا حلالت باشه

Pirouz, you are desperate

"Anti-Iran cheerleaders" is a description for people that are cheering on the demise of of Iran

Again, you are being childish. Self-righteous in that people of your view are the ones which are "for" Iran and others not. With regards to predictions, I do not gamble and am not into KHORAFAT, but what I will say is that Anvar has the right idea. He is a modernist, while you are a sheep.

Sorry Anvar

I misread your comment. So you're predicting a subverted IRI after all. But you're prediction for the month and year of its downfall is dependent on the IRI relinquishing itself from effective government.

Again, how realistic is that? 

And Iranians turning completely against Islam in 75 to 100 years? Utterly fantastic.

Please don't take this the wrong way, Anvar, but I feel you're really out of touch with major segments of the Meehan. 

Asteroid

"Anti-Iran cheerleaders" is not name-calling. It's a description for people that are cheering on the demise of of Iran. Hence, "anti-Iran" associated with "cheerleading". If you're against present day Iran, I don't see how you would take offense to this description.

So no prediction form you either.

And yes, to answer your question: I am for established law and order, as applied to the current condition.

Yes, a Reform with a difference of 180 degrees

*Sargord Pirouz* - For some reason you left out the most crucial qualifier of my statement about the inevitable change of the Constitution!  And that word was “drastically.”  I trust the omission was inadvertent and not manipulative.

I am against violence, bloodshed, chaos, and revenge.  Now, mind you, I may be against revenge, but I am definitely for justice.  Justice for the policy makers and the policy implementers.  As such, I don’t care if low-level regime supporters want to save face by misrepresenting a drastic change of the Constitution as reform to the Constitution.

And I stand by my statement of majority of Iranians not being Muslim in two or three generations.  In an environment where people are imprisoned for “whistling” or “clapping hands” on the day of Ashura, and when the penalty for apostasy in Islam is death, of course 97% of the population would claim to be Muslims!

Shortly after the drastic changes have taken place; when free marketplace of ideas is at work; when there’s no fear, coercion, or intimidation; when there’s freedom of speech; when there’s freedom of choice; only then people will be free to select or reject any and all ideologies.

You want a precise year/month prediction?  Grant the above freedoms and my prediction will be precisely: The day after.

Would you rather sell your ideology based on its own merits or the force or your bayonet?  

If there’s no fear of becoming obsolete, then let everyone choose freely.  Only then we will see whether my assertion, that the majority of Iranians will not be Muslims in a couple of generations, is Ridiculous or not.

Anvar

Pirouz the sheep

Stop childish name-calling: "anti-Iran cheerleaders". Noone here is anti-Iran. You are no more Iranian than anyone else just because you go along with what your corrupt RAHBAR tells you. All his lies, manipulation and sacpegoating.

"I am totally against violent protest and oppose civil unrest."  - so were you against overthrow of the Shah? You say you are against violent protest, but are you for torture, rape, censorship, persecution of minorities, corruption, etc? Because that is what your beloved IRI are doing.

No Fear

A well reasoned prediction of reform in the medium-term counts as a prediction.

I was merely responding to the anti-Iran cheerleaders. They're all so unrealistically convinced of an impending IRI governmental implosion, I was hoping to draw them out with moths and year predictions for their fantasies to take place. So far, no takers

As stated repeatedly elsewhere, I voted Green in the June election. However, that said, I accept Dr. Ahmadinejad as the legitimate president of the Islamic Republic of Iran. If various political reforms are agreed upon, in a civil manner, I will applaud them. But I am totally against violent protest and oppose civil unrest. 

Here is my prediction ...

Ahmadinejad's economical policies to eliminate subsidies from a variety of products and services will definitly make him less popular among the middle classes.I salute Ahmadinejad for having the guts to make these changes that were long due for Iran. We will see increased cost of services which will affect all Iranians.But those subsidies are suffocating our industries and are very harmful to a healthy economy.

This all points to a landslide victory for reform in the next election. Reform will introduce new faces in the race ( possibly Ghalibof the current mayor of tehran). After a few years of economic hardship during Ahmadinejad correctional policies, reform will take credit for economical recovery signs and will distroy everything that was accomplish before during a 4 year term by mismanaging the economy as they always do.

I am conflicted sometimes since i wish for a Sepah coup de tat that could prevent incompetent and corrupt reform candidates from taking office but i realize this won't serve us in the long run. Military governments historically have performed very well in terms of economics but they rub people the wrong way.

Unfortunately, Ahmadinejad has not " developed " or introduced an effective candidate for the next election. Reform will win the next election if the events keep unfolding the way they are. While some would be happy about the relative civil freedoms which will follow a reform win, some would be deeply worried about how this bunch would run the country.

I will respect a reform win, if that happens. I have no choice. But what we could do is to make our politicians accountable. Once again, I salute Ahmadinejad for breaking the taboo of critisizing other politicians and allowing himself to be critisized. No other government in the past has allowed this much debate in all aspect of government to take place. Political televised debate are becoming a norm now, a rarity even during reform era.

PS: IR is here to stay. ( Sorry Sargord if my prediction is not exactly what you are looking for ). However, the possibility of reform is high within IR. Losing some key figures who keep life long positions, due to aging and death , could trigger debates that might lead to reforming even the most controversial doctorine.

Hah!

Read my post and comments again. What I've done is stated that the IRI is NOT in imminent danger of imploding. The worst you can really say is that I am NOT an anti-IRI cheerleader. That's it. But the news that the IRI is not going to go down any time soon, as reinforced by the many historical citations listed above, makes so many of you cry foul in emotional anguish, y'all resort to the same old name calling, false accusations and invectives.

Is that all you got? 

No takers whatsoever on the month and year y'all think the IRI will go down? Well that just figures. You know what you folks are guilty of, time after time again?

Intellectual cowardice. 

Anvar: I wrote this comment before viewing your prediction. So you're basically saying most Iranians will no longer be a muslim in 75-100 years? Ridiculous. And you state that "long before that" the IRI constitution will change. By that do you mean reformed? If that's what you mean, that's not that big of a bold prediction. That could potentially happen. Reconciliation is being talked about amongst the IRI power elite. That retains the IRI as the government of Iran.

So there we have it, one prediction- of sorts- that the IRI is here to stay. How 'bout you many naysayers. Month and year the IRI goes down? 

Here’s My Bold Prediction

In two, or at the very latest three, generations the majority of Iranians will no longer identify themselves as Muslims.  Long before that time, the current Constitution of the Islamic Republic will have been drastically changed..

Of course, if by then the Hidden Imam has reappeared and the End Times are upon us, then all the bets will be off.  In that case, I’ll stand corrected and you may add my name to the list above as I will have wasted my life away.

And if I’m right…

Anvar

dear Fair

thanks for your kind comment. there is something i want to share with you that may irk you, but i feel it is important. i am of that strange breed that feels the need to engage in dialogue with regime supporters. it is only partly about changing minds. more than that, i respect the right of iranians who support the regime. before you see red, pls hear me out. we are after all iranians no matter of what political persuasion. and we all have our reasons to be who and how we are. what the regime - or elements within it - lacks is the capacity to show respect for the human rights of those opposed to it. it is paranoid and authoritarian. we, i hope, are not like that. 

i have often enjoyed your contributions in various forums. your tone with sargord, however, leaves me uneasy. calling regime supporters 'fascist' is quite strong. perhaps too strong. i am with you on the basijis. many of them are scum.

but our armed forces are made up of conscripts. no iranian man can escape being a part of them. in any case, when the day comes, do we want them to feel that they are facing certain death at the hand of a livid mob? or do we want them to be our brothers in the struggle?

Peace

Pahlevan and NP

Dear Pahlevan, thank you for your kind comments. We the people of Iran shall overcome. I from one Iranian who has fought for his country to another thank you deeply for your sacrifice in the face of this regime. No matter how much worthless individuals on this website would call ridicule you as because you live in exile, they cannot change the fact that you have served your people with honor. Something that fascists cannot understand.

Dear NP, What waffen SS major stands for is very clear- he says that AN is legitimate, and that the Iranian people risking their lives and being raped murdered tortured kidnapped imprisoned without trial is simply an "undercurrent" like in the France and the US, and that the response to them is "law enforcement" like in France or the US.

In other words, waffen SS major stands AGAINST the Iranian people and FOR the coup d'etat mafia that is raping our country. He has no honor, and wears the uniform of a stateless terrorist organization- the Islamic Revolution Guard Corps or IRGC. Notice that this organization does not have the word Iran in it, just like the Islamic Fuehrer and fascist government that it was sworn to protect.

To even attempt discussion with such fascists is futile. Try discussing democracy with Goebbels, and you will see what I mean.

-Fair

magas

I have always been responding from the point of view of a regular patriotic Iranian. Cheering for mass murderers and advocating fascist IRI ideology, as Hezbol parasites like Q & sargooz pirouz & Jaleho do, deserves the kinds of response I have been giving.

What should be a person's response to Nazi, Fascist and Islamo-fascist ideas. Can I really, have rational discussion with a white-supremacist or a Basiji (they are both really of the same kind)? ... I don't think so.

Sargord Pirouz.... Shame on You

Sargord, Shame Shame Shame.....How can you say nothing has happened.  Let me list you all the events that have happened that show that IRI is gonna fall:

1. Ramin Tork started the world wide global IIC organization that is taking the world by storm.  This was the severe punch to IRI

2. David ET wrote the secular constitution for the next iranian government.

3. MPD, Hova...keshe mustarab, gitdeon, JJ have ordered expensive Satellite subscription to monitor events on the ground on Bahman 22 and direct the ground troops

4. Faramarz Fateh has listed a list of all the cabinets and is seeking candidates so that when IRI falls, miniteries are smoothly turned over

5. Fred is considering to use the enormous resources put at the disposable of Ramin Tork (when he CREATED ICC) to conduct the first ever Presidential election ONLINE (to reflect Iran's forward thinking).  He has asked for candidates from all parties to join the elections.  Ari Selitz has suggested that atleast one Bahai nominate himself to show the NEW IRAN.  JJ has also asked that a healthy man or woman or better a transgender with strong and flagrant Homosexual tendencies ( remember the new slogan I AM GAY TOO)  run in the election to showcase the NEW & LiBERATED IRAN

6. Cyrus Kadivar is already working to put together many mutlinational corporations to throw the epic once in a decade ARYAN party in Persopolis that will surpass in expense all the other combined Royal events- he has already indicated that no bottle less than $2000 will be served. 

All these things have happend MR PIROUZ.  I should call you Sarbaz Pirouz because you have failed to recognize that we have  come 95 % of the way to overthrow our government and only 5 % is left.  We are all only waiting for Bahman 22 because we have pinned everything on that.  And if nothing happens then, then we will bend over and let you Mr Pirouz do whatever you please!!!

Pirouz is whistling past a graveyard

In the following post, I show why the the regime is in IRREVERSIBLE trouble.   In a subpost, I show why past predictions are irrelevant. 

Aside from that, Pirouz can hardly suggest that the Islamio Regime has ever gone through such a prolonged (seven months), widespread (every city in the country) and popular (as many as three million demonstrators) period of opposition. 

//iranian.com/main/blog/fg/trends-killed-ussr-are-doing-same-now-islamic-republic

One other point, if Pirouz intends to argue that no one can tell how soon the regime will fall, I'd have to agree because that involves too many unknown variables (listed below).   What is insisputable is that the opposition is here to stay and the regime's legitimacy permanently lost by its own public and brutal actions and visible corruption.

Unknown variables:

1. Will there be a military coup d'etat and if so will Khamenei wind up like Ceaucescu?  Following that, will there be a provisional government.

2. Will Khamenei and others simply decide to flee while there is still an opportunity or will they kid themselves?

3. Will the regime dare a massive crackdown with thousands of arrest?

4. If it does, can conscripts in the IRCG and regular army be depended on to assist or at least stand by and not interfere?  Same goes for the regular police as distinct from pro-regime officers.   Willl the latter be killed by underlings?

5. In event of the latter will we see a prolonged civil war?  And if it happens will the provisional government seek alliances abroad, at least when it comes to air power, supplies and military training?

Pahlevan!

I believe in reform, you believe in overhaul ... You go for it. 

BTW, I am surprised that this time mesle adam harf zadi, not like a joojeh fascist!