CNN Finally Confirms Israel Broke Ceasefire First

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by sadegh
06-Jan-2009
 
 

CNN Finally Confirms Israel Broke Ceasefire First. It's a shame it took CNN this long to tell us what we all already knew.

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Free Spirit

I don't completely trust CNN

by Free Spirit on

there are better sources of information out there.


sadegh

I'm posting the vid

by sadegh on

I'm posting the vid provided by Anonymous Observer since maybe the babies with crushed skulls and sniper shots in their bodies and skulls will at least shame the despicable apologists for Israeli war crimes. Probably not. Let me guess: "It's all Hamas' fault - yes, the baby murdered by Israeli snipers is because Hamas are Islamofascists supported by the IRI". Well done, I'm sure that will really goes some way to putting the families of the slaughtered men, women and children at ease.

 

 

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

 


sadegh

Thanks so much for the vids

by sadegh on

Thanks so much for the vids and links Anonymous Observer and Irandokht.

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

 


Anonymous Observer

This Madness Must be Stopped

by Anonymous Observer on

Sadegh Jaan,

Here's another video on the civilian casualties...if you haven't seen it yet (or haven't seen enough for that matter):

//english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/20091853249762874.html

 


ebi amirhosseini

Avi Shlaim ....

by ebi amirhosseini on

Oxford professor of international relations Avi Shlaim served in the Israeli army and has never questioned the state's legitimacy. But its merciless assault on Gaza has led him to devastating conclusions.

 //www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/07/gaza-israel-palestine

Ebi aka Haaji


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Zion, give it a rest!

by Anonymous8 (not verified) on

Zion, you're not convincing anybody. stfu and listen for a change.


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Voice of Reason

by Anonymous111 (not verified) on

Amos Oz's take on the Gaza mess:

//www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3506185,...

Israel must leave Gaza.


Anonymous Observer

Humanitarian Crisis

by Anonymous Observer on

There is a humanitarian crisis taking place in Gaza right now, where innonect women and children are being killed and injured in the thousands.  The blame game of who broke the ceasefire is actually a diversion from what should be the focus right now, and that is to stop this carnage.  The only focus right now should be for the international community to put pressure on Israel to immediately end its military operations in Gaza.  Israel should also allow unconditional access to humanitarian aid and the world press so that they can enter Gaza. 

Israel should realize that with its superior power comes superior responsibilities.  It should not compare itself, its conduct and its actions with that of Hamas, an organization which is really not accountable to anyone.  

Again, this madness must stop immediately.   


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RE:Zion

by Toofantheoncesogreat (not verified) on

You don't have any points in this issue, you never had. He's an educated man who is in the life saving business, opposite the people you are defending 24/7 on this site. Everyone believes and talks BS, but Id pick his BS over yours anyday, it smells alot less.


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Jaleho, Are you hiding in the Cave with Emam Zaman?

by Alireza Moalemi (not verified) on

My intent was not to turn this into another "Land theft" argument with your type and how the "Zionists" stole lands from the poor Palestinians. The Arab world has set conditions for peace and have excepted Israel to your & IRI's disliking. To bad Jaleho. These empty slogans about "stealing land" is about 60 years to late.

Either be objective and argue the facts or just don't argue. The subject of this blog was who broke the ceasefire? Since you have nothing to argue about due to Hamas's stupidity, you go back to "digging under Al Aksa" and "food for the Palestinians" to shamelessly play for emotions. I said both parties violated the ceasefire. If you have other evidence to the contrary, instead of this stupid CNN clip, please produce it.

This is not the Friday Prayer Sermon site in Qum for bunch of Hezbollahis such as yourself. This is Iranian.com. Stop giving sermons.

Now again, do you take us for dummies with your Palestinian election thing? I was not referring to the "Hamas massive victory in Palestinian elections". I was referring to the violent takeover of all PA government entities and security installations by Hamas a few months later when it killed fellow Palestinians by throwing them off Gaza roof tops in clear day light. Hamas came to power by killing fellow Palestinians just like IRI came to power by killing Iranians. What a coincidence!


Zion

I'm sure you would

by Zion on

... but that only verifies my point. Wouldn't you say?


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RE:Zion

by Toofantheoncesogreat (not verified) on

Max Gilbert is a professional ER doctor currently holding the Gaza ER team together under heavy pressure. I would pick him as a source over any issue in the world than you and your war criminal apologist rats.


Zion

Not facts

by Zion on

It is only what he claims, and given his record he is not a reliable source, but a radically biased one. That is why it is important to know this kind of information not to mistake such things with reality.

if you want to quote the guy, do it properly so the context becomes clear:

'If the U.S. government has a legitimate right to bomb and kill civilians in Iraq, then there is also a moral right to attack the United States with the weapons they had to create. Dead civilians are the same whether they are Americans, Palestinians or Iraqis.”
When asked by Dagbladet if he supported the terrorist attack on the U.S., he replied:
“Terror is a bad weapon, but the answer is yes, within the context I have mentioned.”'

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I have never advocated the murder of civilians. Please provide evidence where I have "lied" and where I have "advocated" any such thing. Otherwise behave yourself.


Kaveh Nouraee

You Have a Ceasefire

by Kaveh Nouraee on

and there are no hostilities going on.

But you come to find out that tunnels are being excavated by tghe other side for the express purpose of launching new attacks.

What do you do?

 


IRANdokht

Face the facts

by IRANdokht on

It's not surprising that faced with the facts you turn to character assassinations. Who cares what he said about 9/11 in NY? do you have anything to negate what he has to say today in Gaza?

btw, this is what he said about 9/11:

"Dead civilians are the same whether they are Americans, Palestinians or Iraqis.”

 

your lies and advocating for criminal actions and murder of civilians at all cost is just pathetic!

IRANdokht


Jaleho

Alireza, do you live in the moon?!

by Jaleho on

Israel steals Arab land in front of world's eyes, in violation of international law, from all its neighbors. Have you ever heard of "Israeli occupied territories?" no need for "secret stealing" there.

Also you said:

"Were Gazans having trouble with food before the Hamas violently and Illegally overthrew the PA governmen"

In the parallel Zionist universe that you live, they don't have NYTimes, Washpost, BBC, or similar things which announced Hamas massive victory in Palestinian elections? 

//www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/26/AR2006012600372.html


Zion

Mads Gilbert

by Zion on

Mads Gilbert is a radical Marxist and has interesting things to say about 9/11 as well:

//littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32373_Norw...

Hardly a reliable source...and hardly surprising that he is used as one here.


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Weak & Idiotic Comparisons Jaleho

by Alireza Moalemi (not verified) on

You say:
"Are you by any chance talking about the tunnels that Israelis are digging under and around Al-Aqsa mosque in Palestinian land, and infuriating the entire Muslim world? I doubt that's what you meant from the stink of your post."

If you are trying to touch my heart because I'm a Muslim, nice try. This is an idiotic comparison. Israelis are not digging to militarily invade Arab Land under Al-Aqsa and to take Arab hostages. The Hamas were digging tunnels into Israeli territory to take Hostages during the ceasefire. What actually "Stinks" is your shameless anti human Islamist propaganda on this site.

And with respect to this:
"But, maybe you're talking about the only way Gazan are getting basic food and medicine since the Israeli brutes have closed all the crossing to Gaza? "

No I was not actually. Were Gazans having trouble with food before the Hamas violently and Illegally overthrew the PA government 3 years ago? Even though everyone knew the PA was corrupt there was no issue with food and basic necessities. The tunnels are not used to get food, they are used to get weapons from your fellow Islamist in the IRI and they are used to attack Israeli positions.

I guess that is why your blood is boiling. The IRI is losing influence and fellow Arab states like Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia have a hand in it. They actually helped the Israelis to weaken the Hamas. Wasn't it nice how all the Arab states ignored the IRI in the past week? I guess the IRI does not have much of an influence as you like to think after all.

How ever you put it, my Islamist loving hamvatan, the Hamas are comprised of a bunch of idiots. No one likes them except for the IRI (and you, IRI's representative on Iranian.com). They are used as a tool by the Syrians. The Gaza population does not deserve this but they "democratically" elected these idiots to shoot dinky rockets into Israeli civilian populations centers as a form of "resistance" because of the effective blocaked by the Israelis, they could no longer offer "resistance" by blowing themselves up (a form of "resistance" that I'm sure you approve off).. Go back writing your anti Jewish none sense Jaleho. You have better skills being anti jewish than anything else.

Finally, I love how every one agrees with the title of this post even though it is a complete lie and fabrication.

Also, no one here has addressed the issue. If the cease fire was violated by Israel in November, why did Hamas start with the rocket barage at the end of December with an official declaration that they would no longer abide by a ceasefire and the multiple rocket assaults on civilian populations?

There were many more violations, by both sides prior to November, but you would be happy with living with the lies as long as Israel looks guilty. The world is not as stupid as you people think.


Niki

better late than never, i suppose

by Niki on

thanks Sadegh jan. I was talking to a reporter about a week ago, and when i said that the Israelis had broken the cease-fire first, she looked at me like i had said the sky is green! 


Jaleho

alireza, you said

by Jaleho on

"if you know you neighbor is planing to build a tunnel under your house...."

Are you by any chance talking about the tunnels that Israelis are digging under and around Al-Aqsa mosque in Palestinian land, and infuriating the entire Muslim world? I doubt that's what you meant from the stink of your post.

But, maybe you're  talking about the only way Gazan are getting basic food and medicine since the Israeli brutes have closed all the crossing to Gaza?

 

Welcome back Sadeq!


IRANdokht

Gaza update

by IRANdokht on

Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian doctor in Gaza, tells Sky News that the number of civilians injured and killed in Gaza proves that Israel is deliberately attacking the population.

IRANdokht


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Re: Alireza

by Toofantheoncesogreat (not verified) on

This BS about some country, might one day, will some day or maybe will one time do something and thus using such as an excuse to murder hundreds of civilians is utter BS. Be it Gaza, Iraq, or Iran.

If thats the case, why should not the world invade Israel. A 6 million inhabited country with weapons of mass destruction that see themselves as a superior race of people while killing off indegenious people around their nation, and constantly attacking other countries around it, something most civilized countries stopped doing long ago.

For all we know, those tunnels could have been used to ship in aid for the cancer patients in the pediatric department of Gaza Hospital. And even IF they were smuggling in rockets and arms, its their right to arm themselves as much as Israel has right to arm it-self.

So stop the obvious double standard approach. This report repeats what I have been saying all the time, the cease fire broke when Israel killed those 6 Hamas members, not to mention the children it murdered in Gaza hospitals because of sanctions.


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I like Iranians

by blondebimbo (not verified) on

I'm American and I'm horrified at what Israel is doing right now. Peace to all of you.


Princess

wow...

by Princess on

aren't these two guys cute! please do not strain your pretty little heads, we'll have to make sure next time we have somebody scan other sources of news for you to make sure you get the order right. this is just beyond funny...

thanks for sharing. 


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It does not matter

by shirazie (not verified) on

USA is no longer relevant on the world stage. The French president is going to be the peace maker!!. USA has no creditability and no one is willing to sit down with us or cares about our opinion.

We have not faced up to it. we will be sitting in the back of the bus with our buddies - the Israelis...

Thank you George Bush...


Mammad

Sadegh

by Mammad on

Welcome back. Please send me an e-mail.

Thanks for the post.

Mammad


Mehdi Mazloom

calling the spade a spade.

by Mehdi Mazloom on

Hamas renounces cease-fire with Israel




The Associated Press Published: December 19, 2008



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JERUSALEM:
Hamas formally announced the end of its unwritten, often-breached truce
with Israel on Friday as Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip fired
four more rockets into southern Israel.

The Israeli military said troops guarding Israeli farmers in fields
adjoining Gaza also came under sniper fire from across the border.
There were no injuries reported in any of the incidents.

In a statement posted on its Web site, the Islamic militant group
Hamas said that Israel had breached agreements by imposing a painful
economic blockade on Gaza, staging military strikes into the densely
populated coastal strip and continuing to hunt down Hamas operatives in
the West Bank.

"We hold the enemy fully responsible for ending the truce and we
confirm that the Palestinian resistance factions headed by Hamas will
act," the statement said.

There was no immediate Israeli comment about the Hamas announcement
that it would not extend the cease-fire past its end Friday. Israel
said previously that the six-month-old truce, brokered by Egypt, did
not have an official expiration date and that the government was
interested in prolonging "understandings" with Hamas.


In Washington, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was critical of the move by Hamas.

"I sincerely hope that there will not be a resumption of the
violence," she said, "because that is not going to help the people of
Gaza, it is not going to help the Palestinians, it is not going to help
the Palestinian cause."

President George W. Bush and the president of the Palestinian
Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, were meeting in Washington on Friday to
assess the stalled U.S.-backed negotiations with Israel that will
almost certainly fail to meet a year-end deadline for a peace deal.

In what is likely their last face-to-face talks before Bush leaves
office next month, Bush and Abbas were meeting days after the United
Nations Security Council endorsed the administration's Annapolis peace
process. Bush introduced the signature initiative on Mideast relations
with Abbas and the outgoing Israeli prime minister, Ehud Olmert, in
November 2007.

Bush had his final meeting with Olmert last month.

Hamas, which violently seized control of the Gaza Strip in June
2007, is listed as a terrorist organization by Israel, the United
States and much of the international community, and Israel does not
officially have direct contacts with it.

Though violence and casualties dropped significantly under the
cease-fire agreement, the truce has increasingly unraveled since early
November, when Israeli soldiers entered Gaza to destroy a tunnel that
the army said could have been used in a cross-border raid. In response,
Palestinian militants resumed firing rockets at Israel.

Even before the truce began fraying, Israel did not allow the free
transfer of goods in and out of Gaza. Since cross-border fighting
resumed in November, Israel has kept the borders virtually sealed,
allowing in only minimal humanitarian aid.

There were protests against the Gaza blockade in several Mideast states Friday.

In Lebanon, thousands of supporters of the militant group Hezbollah
swarmed Beirut's southern suburbs, some chanting "Death to America!"
and "Israel is the enemy of Muslims!" In the southern city of Sidon,
about 1,000 Hezbollah supporters staged a sit-in at the main square,
halting traffic for about three hours.

About 3,000 Palestinian refugees in Syria joined a demonstration at the Sbeineh camp outside the capital, Damascus.

In the Gulf island state of Bahrain, security forces clashed with
thousands of protesters who were demanding that Arab governments take
action to end the Gaza blockade.


Zion

[sigh]

by Zion on

It is exactly as you say Alireza. Thanks for clearly stating what should already have been obvious to all, but evidently some are simply too blinded by prejudice to see properly.
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[Now what is really sad to watch is how desperate the "bleeding hearts" were to have an excuse to rejoice and expose their banal and shallow vengefulness and laughable biases, and make a fool of themselves yet again. Gives a new definition to the word "pathetic".]


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More Lies

by Alireza Moalemi (not verified) on

The video clip does not state that Israel broke the cease fire. It states that in November, the Israelis attacked a tunnel being built into Israel in order to kidnap Israeli soldiers.

No, if you know you neighbor is planing to build a tunnel under your house to come and kidnap one of your kids, are you going to wait until they come and kidnap your kids because there is a ceasefire?

Isn't the act of building a tunnel into your territory breaking the ceasefire? What is the purpose of building "tunnels" into Israeli territory?

Also, why did Hamas wait until the end of December (December 23 to be exact) to officially declare that the ceasefire was over and started lunching the barage of rockets if the ceasefire was broken in Nov?

If you were honest, you would admit that both parties had engaged in acts that violated the ceasefire in the past 6 months. Violations of the ceasefire started way before Nov. But you can not be honest.


IRANdokht

Finally!

by IRANdokht on

The US media has been acting irresponsibly for a long time. They only reveal the truth when they see everybody already knows it and they're being called on for their lousy reporting. 

Thanks Sadegh jan and welcome back :0)

IRANdokht