White Magic (Ruhaniya)

looking for a good ruhany practionner

Can anybody provide me with address and phone number of a good ruhany practionner in Iran?

similar to Ayahuasca

Can you add more to this statement, please? 

 
...occultists in Iran make a tea from the seeds of the Esphand not too dissimilar to the Ayahuasca... 

in particular: are they adding other herbs or substancies to the tea?
How many (grams of) seeds they consume individually in one shot?  

Do they use boiling or cold water ? And the seeds are toasted or grinded before ? 

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Modern psychonauts consider 2,5 gr a safe MAOI dose and they found  the cold water extraction induced less nausea, because only harmine alkaloids  are dissolved, leaving the emetic-abortifacent-toxic ones out. They affirms also that the  Harmaline molecule is converted in the more stable Harmine by heat.

The main qualitative difference between Peganum H. and B. Caapi is the latter produces also Tetrahydroharmine in sensible amount. 

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In the popular knowledge or muslim literature are there references about the psychoactivity of the Pomegranate (DMT mainly in the root-bark) ?

Thank you

More sites

Tantalicious. Check it out:
//telesmat-tavizat-2a.blogfa.com

And

//shamswaqamar.org/pdf/Manuscripts/

//shamswaqamar.org/pdf/

//shamswaqamar.org/pdf/Arabic%20Magic.com/

//shamswaqamar.org/pdf/asrar.de/

Persian language Rohani & Jadoo site

I found this site in Farsi surfing the web for such information

//www.fmr.ir/

Tons of free downloads and books on the subject.

You are what you accuse

Some of you might recall that I went after NUR when he was hammering you Baha'is some time ago. I subsequently got into a dialogue with him in email, at first heated, and realized that what he is saying about some of you Baha'is might actually be true after all. I came to this realization by watching your behavior with other people once NUR left. I still remain to be convinced about everything he says, but the utter malice and hatred that emanates out your message here caught my eye so I decided to respond.

NUR is more a Sufi than many of you could ever realize. He is certainly no fluff and love wimp, if that is your idea of Sufis and Sufism. But he certainly isn't the deranged fundamentalist that you definitely are. Consider that he is "a fire to his enemies and a river of life eternal to his loved ones" to quote Baha'u'llah, and that is definitely a Sufi in the best tradition of a Bayazid or Sahl Tustari. He certainly has proven that to me.

You may be all kinds of anything

But you are no kind of Sufi.

The Sufi claims nothing for himself - and you are a puffing charlatan, parading your sobriquette like a puffed-out peacock, fanning his glorious tail, for others to admire. Your powerful, but misinformed intellect is brandished, not as a fire to light the way for others, with compassion amidst the darkness - but as a sword of disputation and severence among communities. The ideas of others are all you have, and you use them like a jackdaw, who lines its nest with shiny, stolen objects. Inward experience would sew shut, the mouth of claims and judgements, while the voice of compassion would spill like sugar from your lips.

But you are a jealous charlatan, and have none of these. You court the world, and the admiration of its other prisoners. Leaving behind both worlds? That is the striving of the Sufi, who abandons his own being.

About Israfil

//badivillarcardenas.blogspot.com/

Badi Villar Cardenas is a Lima, Peru based member of a dangerous rightwing Stalinist religious cult known as Haifan Baha'ism. In his capacity as a member of this cult, on the internet he serves in their Baha'i Internet Agency. Throughout Latin and South America, in the past Haifan Baha'ism has been involved with CIA-funded rightwing regimes, such as that of Augusto Pinochet in Chile, and even rightwing death squads in El Salvador in the 1980s as well as the CIA crack-cocaine funded Contras in Nicaragua in the 1980s. Members of the Haifan Baha'i National Spirtual Assembly of Chile served in the cabinets of Augusto Pinochet and so are culpable for the human rights violations under the Pinochet regime against the people of Chile. Recently high ranking members of Haifan Baha'ism in Peru maintained close ties simultaneously to the ousted authoritarian regime of Alberto Fujimori as well as Abimael Guzman's the Maoist Shining Path terrorist organization. It is a well known fact that uhj member Farzam Arbab, the father of the Ruhi Institutes, developed his model upon that of Marxist guerilla indoctrination cells which the Shining Path maintained in the jungles of Peru, Bolivia and Columbia. With Alberto Fujimori high ranking members of the NSA of Peru have maintained (and apparently still do) financial interests. On April 7, 2009, Fujimori was convicted of human rights violations and sentenced to 25 years in prison for his role in killings and kidnappings by the Grupo Colina death squad during his government's battle against leftist guerrillas in the 1990s.

The Ayahuasca does not cure the narcissism

Well, just look at the characteristics of the narcissist:

(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

Nima regards himself as superior to just about everyone. He's a better scholar than anyone else, even though he never finished his degree, nor has he published in academic journals. He certainly regards himself as spiritually superior to everyone else, at times even making claims to divine status. But he has never managed to accomplish anything; as far as I know, he's being financially supported by his parents and doesn't even have a job. That's one reason he has so much time to post on trb.

2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

Nima certainly regards himself as powerful, even claiming credit for unfortunate events that happen to his enemies.

(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

Certainly true -- although he doesn't so much associate himself with "special" people; he just makes claims that anyone he associates with is special in some way.

(4) requires excessive admiration

He certainly needs a lot of attention.

5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

Nima gets very angry if people don't do things his way, or disagree with him at all -- that's the main reason he broke with his Baha'i liberal friends, starting with Juan Cole.

6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

For Nima, people only exist to serve his needs; if they fail to do that, then they are dropped and denounced. I've seen that happen over and over again.

(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

Nima is one of the most vicious people I have ever known; he has no sympathy for anyone's feelings at all. He uses his friends, and sets out to deliberately destroy his enemies without mercy.

8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

I haven't noticed Nima being envious, but he certainly believes that others are obsessed with him. This kind of paranoia is very characteristic of a narcissist. After all, only a very important person would be persecuted by so many people. This is one reason why I recommend that Nima be completely ignored. Any kind of attention, whether positive or negative, only reinforces his belief in his own importance.

(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Nima is extremely arrogant, as I'm sure all you know.

Some other common characteristics of narcissists, that don't appear on the diagnostic are:

a) They lie -- constantly and blatantly, and with full knowledge of what they are doing. They are so arrogant that they expect they will be believed, no matter how outrageous the falsehood. I think Nima knows exactly what he is doing; he's not "crazy" in the sense that he cannot tell the difference between fantasy and reality. He deliberately lies.

b) The narcissists thrives on chaos; they're always in the middle of a fight. One reason that Nima broke with other Baha'i dissidents is because he wanted a more intense "war" than they were willing to engage in. Things were starting to calm down, compared to the late '90s. Nima needs the excitement of conflict.

This is very interesting. I

This is very interesting.
I need to read it carefully a couple of times.
Thank you.

double post

delete

Oh and one more small thing

Thought you might be interested in these.

//iranian.com/main/blog/rosie-roxy-roshan/sufism-some-things-are-sacred

//iranian.com/main/news/2009/02/24/iranian-authorities-destroy-sufi-holy-site-isfahan

They're not informative for you. Just thought you'd like to see that they were posted here. But bear in mind that the only place onsite where I can write at full capacity of the level of my discourse is on the political threads (and then only if I keep very strictly within the boundaries of syllogistic argumentation and don't bring in any other fields whatsoever). When I write things that aren't political, I write them with the general reader in mind. And the general reader of this site is...well...general...

Nur, it's going to take me quite a bit of time to process PS

all this, especially with the links, which seem to be extremely important. But honestly I can't think of a more pleasant way of spending Easter Sunday. Just please don't give me any more information, not even poems. This is more than enough to chew on for one day.

I'd also make a little suggestion, at risk of bringing up the bugerboo, but I think it would be a good idea if you removed the little statement about deletions at the bottom of your post. Along with the numbering. You don't need to number your posts for yourself, do you? As regards the statement itself, I think if you let it go you'd feel safer here, and really you are safe here. Jahanshah won't delete you. He won't. Trust me. So why keep having to look at that thing and number things, which will only reinforce in your mind the idea that he will persecute you when he won't?

And I also think it would be a good way for you to have a smoother dynamic with the publisher. Even though he won't delete you, you should be aware that he announced recently that unlike the usual, when he works with a moderation team, he's doing all the moderation himself. TEMPORARILY. This means that he combsall  the threads to make sure there's nothing blatantly offensive to delete. (His standards are quite liberal, as witnessed by his non-deletion of posts on your recent threads, but from time to time deletion is necessary).

Now, given the terrible way you two get along, and the history you have together, if I were Jahanshah and I were combing the threads, and I saw that statement at the bottom of all your posts, it would irritate me. It really would.

And frankly the two of you irritate each other enough already without adding fuel to the fire.  :op

Oh yeah and ps, don't think you have to supply me with any more information, opinions and/or history regarding Jahanshah. You don't.

Theosophia,

There are volumes of scientific books on the subject of mental disorders, evidenced based science.

Well, as you know, there are volumes of scientific books written on all manner of things and look where they've gotten the planet.

 inappropriate and immature encounters of an egocentric or defensive soul with the Ether

What do you mean by the Ether?

Does chamanism and sihr o jadoo of any color use any kind of plant derived medicine that can bring rational thoughts back or is it a lost war

Not about plants per se but let me tell you a little story.

There's a Native American psychiatrist who wrote several books, one called Coyote Healing. He is also a practicing shaman.

He tells the story of a  severely psychotic white  young man who in a small town I think in North Dakota started shooting willy nilly and screaming "I wanna be an injun. I wanna be injun."

Naturally everyone hid, but they psyciatrist was with a master shaman and the shaman bravely approached the young man and he said, so you wanna be an injun. Okay, I'll teach you to be an injun. Now put down the gun and come with me and from now on you are going to do every single thing I tell you.

And the young man did.

The shaman took the young man under his wing for several years. At first he barely allowed him to breathe or sneeze without his permission. In other words, he micromanaged all his actions. Little by little the young man became more reality-based (as in consensus reality) and could have more independence.

The master shaman began using him as his assistant in shamanic practice and gradually began to teach him the art.

The young man learned to be a shaman.  And he became fully functional and sane n the"ordinary" world as well.

Now we have to remember that there are several factors at play. We are dealing with a healthy, almost pollution-free environment. We are dealing with very healthy well-balanced diet. We are dealing with 24 hour care.

But probably most importantly, we are dealing with a "psychotic's" induction into a healing art which is totally accepted within the Native American culture, revered in fact, rather than villified, the vehicle and end goal of which are to enter states which "Western" culture would consider psychotic, however to be able to control them.

Thus the young man's psychotic world was not invalidated by the surrounding culture, rather valued but harnessed and channeled.

The young man after several years decided that shamanism and being an injun weren't quite his "thing."

The psychiatrist ran into him one day on the train. He was going to school. He was studying to become a social worker.

Oh ps and by the by, they aren't mentioned in the book but it is beyond a shadow of a doubt that medicinal herbs were used. As you know, they are part and parcel of the Native American culture in general, and most especially of the shamans.

Thanks

For my true, underlying religion, let me quote one of my favourite poems by the Andalusian Sufi master Ibn 'Arabi:

Wonder,

A Garden amongst the flames!

My heart is capable of taking on any form

A meadow for gazelles

For the idols sacred ground 

A cloister for monks

The pilgrim's Ka'aba

The tablets of the Torah

The scrolls of the Qur'an! 

My religion is love

And wherever its caravan turns along the way

That is my creed, my belief, my faith!

That said, for purposes of taxonomy you can call me also a Fatimi, i.e. an Islamo-Bayani completely devoted to the People of the House (ahl al-bayt) and their esoteric teachings. Withal, 'irfan is 'irfan whatever its outward forms and trappings, and in its specifically Iranian Shi'ite setting its fundamental reality on many levels is the same whether you be a Sufi, a non-Sufi Shi'a 'arif (gnostic) or a Bayani. I am, however, besides a confessed Bayani also an initiated Sufi in the Qadiri-Safialishahi sub-branch of the Ni'matullahi Sufi Order (this is a branch not associated with Javad or Alireza Nurbakhsh) and in it I bear the tariqati name of Vahdatalishah (meaning, the King of the Unity of 'Ali/the High). Given my initiatic name, you can see why I can walk in the singular but outwardly diverse streams of Iranian Shi'ite gnosis ('irfan) with some ease simultaneously as a Sufi and a Bayani - or, rather, a  Fatimi!

There is presently no recognized Mirror (mirat) or head of the Bayani community. Subh-i-Azal had initially nominally appointed Hajji Mirza Muhammad Hadi Dawlatabadi to succeed him, but the latter died just a few short years before Subh-i-Azal's own ascension in 1912. Presently the leadership of the Bayani community is collective.

As to why I oppose Haifan Bahaism: although I wanted to leave aside any discussion of these people  here, I will say I publicly oppose them because they are an extremely dangerous Stalinist and totalitarian New World Order cult with some extremely troubling pretensions and goals to theocracy and world domination. Also, they have lied and whitewashed history about themselves and demonized us Bayanis and our sacred figures for 100+ years now, and they have an agenda for Iran that if implemented would make what has happened to Iraq as of 2003 look like nothing by comparison! They also lie and regularly exagerrate regarding the human rights violations they claim in Iran, not to mention they are attempting to monopolize the whole human rights and persecution issue in Iran exclusively for themselves. To them, it is as if no one else but them has been legitimately persecuted and only they rightfully deserve the epithet of victim. Plus they have assaulted and abused the integrity of myself and my family many, many times and engaged in some incredibly criminal, but underhanded, things against myself over the years. They also have no real esoteric spirituality to speak of, and everything that they claim in terms of a spirituality is taken/stolen from elsewhere from others and throughly sanitized - particularly from Sufism and the Bayan. They are what French esotericist Rene Guenon would call a counter-tradition.

Scholar Abbas Amanat has claimed that the Nuri family as a whole prior to their adherence to Babism in the mid 1840s were associated with the Ni'matullahi Sufi Order in Tehran during the 1830s and early 1840s. He adduces this given that most court notables and the Qajar aristocracy where affiliated with Sufism of one variety during this period. I am not dismissing what Amanat says, and do wholeheartedly agree with the general observation (because it is true), but I would also like to see more evidence for the specific Ni'matullahi affiliation he claims. That said, although he tried to carve himself into the mold of a wandering dervish during his sojourn in Iraqi Kurdistan in the late 1850s (while bearing the name Darvish Muhammad Irani), there is no evidence that Mirza Husayn 'Ali Baha' was a practicing Sufi or an initiate of any sort. He is, on the other hand, what some would pejoratively call mutasawwif.  

William McElwee Miller's The Baha'i Faith: It's History and Teachings is in my opinion one of the best introductory textbooks in any language on Bahaism.  For more contemporary events, look at Juan Cole's The Baha'i Faith in America as Panopticon.

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I'll comment on this tomorrow, Nur

It's wonderful. I'm reading it with great interest.

The medicinal use of psychoactive plants

You raise a very good question. But the Traditional shamanic physician or occultist would also disagree with the foundational etiologies of mental illness as well as both theoretical and empirical bases of diagnoses to begin with. The science of the West is obviously to some degree at a serious handicap in the area of the human psyche, and even many mental health researchers would agree here. So the question you ask is decidedly in the negative: absolutely not, the battle is not lost by a long shot!

You might note that in the past 20-30 years there has been an upsurge of interest and usage in the West amongst those seeking alternative remedies with psychoactive plant medicines deriving from the indigenous cultures of the Americas, such as the tryptamine containing Ayahuasca tea or the mescaline derived from the San Pedro and Peyote cactuses. There is presently an entire industry of Ayahuasca tourism in Peru and Ecuador which is helping people seek alternative healing therapies, and you have two psychedelic Christian Churches (and various spin-offs) based in Brazil using Ayahuasca for both healing and sacramental purposes, i.e. Santo Daime and UdV. Jacques Mabit, a former head-honcho of Doctors Without Borders, left his position in the 1980s to found a research institute in Peru known as Takiwasi where serious drug addicts and schizophrenic patients have apparently been treated successfully over a relatively short period of time by native Amerindian shamans of the Ayahuasca. In Mexico there are several outfits utilizing the African Ibogaine to the same end - and apparently, some claim, with more success than the Ayahuasca. If you are a psychologist, psychiatrist or mental health professional I seriously recommend you get a copy of Benny Shanon's book THE ANTIPODES OF THE MIND: Charting the Phemomenology of the Ayahuasca Experience.

That said, as I mentioned elsewhere to someone else here earlier, in Iran the use of the Esphand (i.e. Syrian Rue) extends well beyond just purposes of incense. I know from first hand personal experience that occultists in Iran make a tea from the seeds of the Esphand not too dissimilar to the Ayahuasca (incidentally the chemistry of the Syrian Rue is identical to one of the two lead ingredients in Ayahuasca, i.e. harmaline). The occult properties of the Esphand are known amongst practitioners to repel various types of insanity, depression, and obviously entity possession (from which we believe these things usually initiate), and its regular use is known to strengthen mental acuity and the general mental constitution and well-being.

Unfortunately governments, university and private foundations (except for one) in the West are totally resistant to funding research into this area of the healing properties of plant medicines, and the pharmaceutical companies are making sure that it stays that way. Albert Hoffman was getting quite far in the supervised psychiatric use of the ergot based  LSD with patients in the 1960s, but was shut down. The last US government funded research project into a psychoactive substance was Rick Strassman's investigation into DMT (i.e. the other lead component of Ayahuasca) in the early 1990s. Since then virtually nothing has happened other than a small private outfit in New Mexico who is funding the projects of various ethnobotanists and ethnopharmacologists on Ayahuasca. Apparently one research project involves specifically the scientific investigation and lengthy taxonomization of the treatement of schizophrenia and multiple personality disorders with Ayahuasca.

Hope this answers your question. And, again let me underscore, no the war is not lost!

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Hunted by superstitions and personality disorders

Mr/Ms;
There are volumes of scientific books on the subject of mental disorders, evidenced based science.
According to medical science, ultimately the manifestations of psychotic and affective disorders are the imbalance in the neuro-electro-chemistry of the brain and the etiology could be Organic brain disease, drug induced, trauma... . Some of the manifestations of these drug induced mental/personality/affective disorders are the result of an inappropriate and immature encounters of an egocentric or defensive soul with the Ether which would become exceedingly difficult to treat. There are powerful anti psychotics that can restore order in the functions of the brain and bring emotional and mental normalcy but have many side effects.
Does chamanism and sihr o jadoo of any color use any kind of plant derived medicine that can bring rational thoughts back or is it a lost war.

Very Interesting

Hey Nur, I am a fan of yours.
I love your blogs and I respect you for your open challenges to the Bahai cult.
Some question for you :
What is your religion ?
Are you a Moslem ?
Some time u quote Imam Ali and quran, Some time you talk about sufism and some time you talk of Bayani Faith.

Why do you oppose Bahaiyyat so much?
Was Bahaullah also a Sufi ?
Who is the current head of Azali Faith ?
Which is the best book to study Baha'i faith as per your view?