Cho Iran nabashad, tan-e-man mabad.

Kurds

are absolutely better off. No longer being gassed of attacked. No more chemical weapons dumped on them. They get to run their own business and lives. They sell their oil and keep the money. I challenge anyone to ask the Kurds if they prefer Saddam to USA. I guess they prefer autonomy to Arab occupation. Do you blame them? Why should they fight to bring back Arab tyrrany!

I am not here making apologies for the USA. But I am telling you reality. For the first time in centuries the Iraqui Kurds are free. Sure the rest of Iraq is hurting but not due to USA. Due to their own Islamic stupidity.

The Kurds are dealing with the USA while rest of Iraq chose to fight. Result is obvious. Same goes with the Tajik vs Pashtun parts of Afghanistan.

Dealing with US occupation is very simple: deal with them and they will spend mega bucks on you. Fight them and they will spend mega bucks fighting back. 

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Source

thexmaster do your own checking:  when one types: sanctions AND Iraq AND deaths.  Here is a sample:

 A short overview of claims:

• "probably ... 170,000 children", Project on Defense Alternatives, "The Wages of War", 20. October 2003[35]
• 350,000 excess deaths among children "even using conservative estimates", Slate Explainer, "Are 1 Million Children Dying in Iraq?", 9. October 2001.[36]
• "Richard Garfield, a Columbia University nursing professor ... cited the figures 345,000-530,000 for the entire 1990-2002 period"[37] from multiple causes including sanctions.[38]
• Iraqi Baathist government: 1.5 million.[21]
• Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark: 1.5 million (includes sanctions, bombs and other weapons, depleted uranium poisoning).[39]
• Iraqi Cultural Minister Hammadi: 1.7 million (includes sanctions, bombs and other weapons, depleted uranium poisoning) [40]
• Unicef: 500,000 children (including sanctions, collateral effects of war). "[As of 1999] [c]hildren under 5 years of age are dying at more than twice the rate they were ten years ago."[16][41]
• Editor (then "associate editor and media columnist") Matt Welch,[42] Reason Magazine, 2002: "It seems awfully hard not to conclude that the embargo on Iraq has ... contributed to more than 100,000 deaths since 1990."[21][38]
• British Member of Parliament George Galloway: "a million Iraqis, most of them children."[43]

Madelaine Albright was asked on CNN if she felt the loss of over a  million lives as a result of these sanctions was worth it.  She said yes.

What is your source for 1.7 million dead?

What is your source for 1.7 million dead?

Thanx Maziar

Besides - I advice those who think Iraq is worst off to certainly look into Iraq Kordestan province these days.   Also, the only reason the rest of Iraq is the way it is - is because of KSA and IR, and the Molsem population that allows terrorists to mix-into them.   Thank God Iran is not like that - a Moslem terrorist will never be able to mix and take refuge within the General Population. 

Thank you Javad

I agree with you. I am not sure if you would really find anyone with a little bit of brain to think that Iraq is better off today under the occupation of 150,000 occupiers,murderes and rapists.

Before Saddam was installed by CIA in Iraq, they had a semi-socialist government that had provided free education, health care and lots of  other social benefits for Iraqies.

Of course when you are in the ME and have a ton of Oil fields, you cannot be independent of the Wolves and sure enough CIA got rid of that Governement and put Saddam in place to serve them, just like 1953 in Iran, when they brought in the Shah.

Of course once Shah's usefulness to CIA expired in mid 1970's,like Saddam's in early '90s, then he had to go too and that Mullah, Khomini, who was supported/protected in exile by CIA for over 25 years was installed in Iran.

These Historic events are so similar that you don't really need to be a Rocket Scientist to figure out who is behind the curtain and what the real idea is.

Are Iraqies better off after all this?. Are Iranians better off with all that has happened to them in the last 50-60 years?, That is not even a good question to ask.

The people behind all of these events will never face justice because it is the Law of Jungel out there and different humans have done the same thing at different times to their fellow Human beings.

You would think in the 21st Century Humans would be civilized finally, right?

I guess they still talk a good talk but have no clue how to walk a good walk.

DOWN WITH IRR

And their supporters.                                                                                                    well said masoud khan.

My Iraqi friends that work there hoping for at least 10 more years so they can make that MILLION$$ that never could dream of here with $ 10.00 /hr. salary and a small family to support.     Maziar

It's good to agree, isn't it?

Mehrdad, it you ease up on the Arab-Israeli thing and focus more on the Islamist deconstruction of our motherland, we could be buddies, I promise! 

I do agree that there's injustice in the occupied territories and beyond, but right now we have a fire in the house and cannot tend to the neighbors.

Vidmose jon, it is as clear as day that is the case.

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IRAN FIRST

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COP: see we have more and more in agreement then otherewise

Though I like to add that the other side have also plenty (kak kooneshon) or what ever location to start this war.  The war is only to benefit the terrorists on both sides and only the Iranian people and American people will be the loser here. 

The only scenario that I think war would be good and beneficial, is if IRI leaders and the neo-cons/Zionist leaders get to gather and go at it.  That would be a great day for me which I will wish both of them success to destroy the other side.  Boy wouldn't that be a wishful thinking on my part?

Mehrdad

COP: exactly. That is their

COP: exactly. That is their only way they will have a chance..

جنگ

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Javadagha: your fatal mistake is to ignore the obvious sign

Who ever think Bush is the liberator, well I can not come up with polite enough adjective to describe the state of mentality of this person.

Mehrdad

Salvaging the IRI clan through war???

Abarmard: What are you talking about?? Are you promoting a war between the IRI and the US?? Who made you an authority to determine such fate for Iran and Iranians??

Provoking a war is the last refuge of a scoundrle basiji clan and their propagndist on this site.

Haven't your clan plundred Iran enough? Now, you're inviting a war to continue your insatiable hunger for profit and moft khori.

Do you want to protect your Basiji clan through  war? Do you really think you will win??? You musth if you want a war...Is that the plan, Abarmard?? Is that the new Vevak's talking points?

"The display of fervid control the regime was forced into on 11 February 2010 reveals its desperation. A foreign assault, which would unite all Iranians behind a power they hate, could yet give it an infusion of strength - all the more reason for the west to ignore Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's provocations, and oblige his government to face the people without false comfort. Mir-Hossein’s Moussavi’s demands offer the regime an opportunity to restore governance to a path of legitimacy. It seems unlikely that the regime will turn back from its self-destructive path."

//www.opendemocracy.net/farhang-jahanpour/iran-what-happened-where-now

اگر محل نزارین

  لطفآ به این حزباللهی ها جواب ندین که این مزخرف هاشون را پست نکنن. اگر بی اعتنایی کنین دیگه این کس  شر هارو پست نمیکنن.

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If you think

a ship is going to defend Iran against US you are mistaken. I am just telling you fact. The US has submarines with torpedoes that will sink it like a rock. Do you remember what happened to "General Belgrano". It was the pride of the Argantine navy. Got sent to the bottom of the ocean by a British (I am no fan of them) torpedo. 

Smart Iranians do not pick a fight they know won't win. The US spends over 100 times as much as Iran on its military. There is no way to fight a military 100 times more powerful. It will just kill Iranian soldiers. I love my people and don't want them sunk to the bottom. This stupid bravado is going to cost precious lives. 

To arm chair generals: please go put your money where your mouth is.

VPK

Out of context

"....But I just don't see the US sitting around and watching. They are mopping up Afghanistan now. Iraq is pacified. Next is Iran. It will behove us all to do prepare for it. "

You missed my disclaimer or more likely on prupose did not include it.

For the record: I oppose an attack on Iran by US or anyone else including IRR. If you don't understand English that is not my problem.

We should be prepared for it. It is the smart thing to do. I don't want Iran to turn into Iraq. Do you?

Here another quote out of context:

La Elaha - means there is no god. Of course the rest goes as "En Allah". So if you quote half of a verse in Quoran you get the opposite meaning. A partial sentence means nothing. 

VPK

Thank you, that is the point of this post.

Thank you Abarmard.

The people who do not get it, accuse others as IRI supporters.  What a crock!!

We are Iranians.  We will defend Iran from Eye-ranians and other USA apologists such as Fred and MasoudA.

VPK joins Bushi group!!

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Feb 19, 2010 07:40 AM PST

"....But I just don't see the US sitting around and watching. They are mopping up Afghanistan now. Iraq is pacified. Next is Iran. It will behove us all to do prepare for it. "

With the above quote from Veiled Prophet of Khorasan, my point in this post is proven.  Thank you.

True, Iraq is much worse

And to top that, they are going to have foreign military for a long long time controlling their lives. For those who are only thinking about a small class that was created during the Shah, who think that their sole purpose is to go back and claim their wealth and so called trouble free life-style; perhaps such an outcome is desirable.

You have every reason to be outraged and in a way scared about those who preach freedom for Iran and view occupation and total foreign control as Democracy. I am certain that They mean well but don't know well enough.

This is about Iran

not Iraq. 

Anyone who thinks that Iraq is better off is a monster who has no feelings, no compassion, no knowledge of reality. I do not know bushtheliberator or people like him, they need to be placed where they can do no harm to others.

No regime in the history of Iran has been as evil and despotic as IRR. So don't give me this BS about humanity. Bush may have been bad but compared to Khomeini and Khamenei he was nothing. The IRR wrote the book on being monsters.

VPK

Any Iranian

Who focuses on Iraq to protect the ISlamic Republic is worst than any monster - especialy if they live outside Iran and do not have to be exposed to that filthy government.