Jahanshah Rashidian

besmellla

bahse shoma besmella nagoo. hamintori bezanet foro kon . manam be zanam foro mikonam chetore .asan mikhay be zanaye hamdige foro konim ha chetore ?asan biya be tafahom beresim ke zanamo jende beshan . bekesi che

Curious joe, Thank you for

Curious joe,
Thank you for your kind explanation.
Hajjie aghas character has been completely spoiled due to the abuse he gives and receives. I am sure he will be receptive to love at some point, i just dont know who and when!
You seem to have the wisdom to ward off harsher language, but consider our needs at the time and the abuses we have been subjected to.
Abusive language here in the west is a different ball game and has its own audience and culture, we are not ready for it.
Mona is an angel who speaks with kindness, that audience requires a different consideration.
At any rate you and Jamshid are honest and straight forward.
Good luck to you.

Curious joe's profile!

You have a physical disability.I think I know you,you live in Canada,and you use a walking aid.
tell me if I am wrong!!
Since I know you ,I know the depth of your anger and bitterness.
It was no ones fault specially GOD's!

low creature joe

as you believe""you have to talk their language
You see – that is the only language they understand""

I talked the language YOU understand""an abusive language is absolutely needed"" You said it, didn't you.

R.Joe/salar and today who knows?????

I only wish I had access to such a forum when I was a teenager. By twisted minded freak Joe

Do you blame your parents for your faults, flaws and failures?

I feel sorry for you poor joe and the way your parents treated , and brought you up!

that's why you have so many personality latest Salar
,Cool, you feel great don't you?

You lowly creature.

I read all your articles, just bullsh-t that's all.

You old twisted minded freak! 65 yrs old retarded

take your pills

Curious Joe, again open his mouth!!!!!

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHOfnYBkZtw

Response to Seagull  

Response to Seagull

First of all, this is Iranian.com where “nothing is sacred”.  That includes Haji Agha’s “cartoons” dominated by Kir, dripping Kos of Iranian women living in Canada who are supposedly (from Haji Agha’s POV) a bunch of whores, and the Koon of men in Canada who are supposedly a bunch of homosexual ass-holes.  And yet, JJ decides to display Haji Agha’s sick mind openly.  Within that context, my poignant response to some idiotic comments are surely forgiven.

Please listen:  I have been trying to fight Ignorance on the Internet since 1973.  Go to Straightdope.com to see how.  You are a newcomer to the Internet debate game.  You may get upset by my choice of words, but I think you newcomers need a jolt, from someone who has been playing the “polite” Internet debate game for over 30 years.  On Straightdope.com you will get instantly banned as a “Troll” if you don’t know what-the-hell you are talking about.  Please go there and try to post a comment.  First of all, you’d have to pay $15 if you desire to make an OP. Even if you do pay the $15, and you cannot support your opinion intelligently, you will be ridiculed and, if becoming belligerent,  you’ll become banned, and out of existence in no time.   And you lose your $15.

Within the above perspective, an abusive language is absolutely needed to totally denigrate the likes of Haji Agha (who needs to be in a mental institution), or Mona 19 who keeps on quoting from some 1400 years old book, rather than a 2007 book by Richard Dawkins called “The God Delusion”.  Look at what she says: “My message is for those souls whose aim is to serve humanity and whose efforts and endeavors are devoted to the good and betterment of all mankind, those who strive for the betterment of the world, the education of its peoples”.  What a bunch of horse-shit motherhood is that?. Is she talking to IMF or the World Bank?  Is she talking to the globalization of multinational corporations, or is she just jingling her “Haari Krishna, Haari Krishna, Hari-Hari” tune while exercising some yoga in Ojai, California?  I wonder why she uses “THOU” rather than “YOU” in her cut-and-paste quotes?

I am sorry Seagull, but when you are confronted with a bunch of Laat, Jaahel, and Fundamental Basijis, you have to talk their language.  You see – that is the only language they understand.  After all, they would not dare participating in Straightdope.com, let alone registering on Iranian.com and express their own OP, like Jahanshah Rashidian has done above.

Jamshid, That is gross

Jamshid,
That is gross generalization!
Curious joe and yourself resorted to abusive language. That is not the kind of progress you or any of us have in mind and i know you respect that.
Replies were made to the choice of word and manner of expression not anyone's preference of belief.
Your belief is fine, but we all expect a courteous language, that is not intolerance.
Your preference is your business, but when talking in and to public a little consideration goes a long way.
We should leave this behind now.

Mona, Seagull, Boss

Your intolerance of none-religious people, which is clearly depicted in this thread, should serve as a warning to everyone, that ALL relgious people are intolerant one way or another.

my little monkey,JOE

JAVABE ABLAHAN KHAMOOSHIST, agha monkey

THE BOSS

Curious Joe/ Jamshid,You can not....

I'm afraid you can not SILENCE me from spreading the message of love, peace, communal harmony and universal brotherhood.

If you don't like to see or hear it, CLOSE your EYES and EARS.

My message is for those souls whose aim is to serve humanity and whose efforts and endeavors are devoted to the good and betterment of all mankind, those who strive for the betterment of the world, the education of its peoples.

Our purpose is to obliterate differences, and quench the flame of hatred and enmity, so that the whole earth may come to be viewed as ONE COUNTRY.

The BETTERMENT of the WORLD can accomplished through PURE and GOODLY DEED, through COMMENDABLE and SEEMLY CONDUCT....

Mona

following the rules of engagement

curious joe,
Just contain your anger and refrain from ABUSIVE language.
I think that would be a fair start.

The rest of my hamvatanan:

The below was my response to the serpant!!!but for the fair minded Iranians,the reason for not registering is that ,many Bahais after revolution they just went missing ,we have no trace of a body or what happened to them .
This ignorant and shaytan group have done the same to other iranians like Farokhzad or Shahpoor Bakhtiyar and many more that we all do not know about it,because of the fear tactic that they use in the country.
I am sure that different political groups , they have very similar stories to tell too.They just take someone from the street or go to their house at night (just like vampires).
So that is the reason for not registering, not the fear of not having something with substance to tell.

With hope of end of this darkness in Iran,Remember so powerfull is the light of UNITY that can illuminate the whole Earth.
Tahirih

"curious joe" You are doing Hojatiyeh 101 trick!!!!!

You know we will not register and it is going to be this way!
Do you think we would compromize our saftey (sorry JJ,I do not mean you are not safe ).We are declaring to you all that we have converted to bahai faith and then giving our name and address!!!

Hojatiyeh have killed Iranian bahai's in Iran even when they were born and raised in a bahai family,do you think they will tolerate us!!!

Come on Curious Joe,or Jamshid ,or lately kafka,or Ali,you are all the same person and are IRI agents.

If you are planning a Farokhzad kind of meeting with us or Shapore Bakhtiyar kind???!!! you should think twice we are smarter than this!!!

I do not think all your different heads are registerd either???

you do not like it just ignore us,but as far as silencing us NOTHING will work!!!
You and Mullas had 150 years to poision peoples mind about bahais,it is time to tell them the truth and we WILL!

A challenge to Seagull, the boss, Tahirih, Felfel, and Mona 19

If you read the 90 comments to Jahanshah Rashidian’s (JR) original post (OP) above, you’ll see that your comments have no relevance to the OP’s point. 

If you really have an issue you’d like to discuss/debate, then I suggest you initiate  your own OP.  Ah ... but  that would require you to register with Iranian.com so that you can post your own OP.  I wonder what stops you from doing that?  Why do you continue to post comments anonymously and unregistered?  Does it mean you have nothing meaningful to say, or are you afraid to express your stand on an issue (backed by references) and take a direct challenge to your stand? 

Meanwhile, following the rules of engagement in a debate on a message board, I am not going to hijack JR’s post to irrelevant comments.  I propose that you stick to the protocol, and if you feel to have a debate about a subject other than the OP, then you  create your own OP, so that one can have a more focused discussion about your stand.

BTW, I have not seen any response to my suggestion below (in response to Xerex question) on how to stop the perpetuation of  “aaraajif” referred by JR in the above OP.

Cheers,

Curious Joe.

Tell Curious joe, the monkey,

Jamshid,

I know how you're feeling, man.

you're a good trainer, tell your little monkey to be a GOOD BOY.

THE BOSS

You are ruled by your lower self

Jamshid unless you are curious joe, you should not be responding to that post. that was for JOE only!
Well i guess i am kinda late!

although a bit softer

Jamshid,
Thank you for the credit!
I would not want your silence. you and curious joe just go over board, you know what I mean.
If anyone is compelled to share their belief here then be it, this is the place.
You are not going to see me hushing people.

Re: Seagull #2

Qutoe from seagull: "You are ruled by your lower self the animal ego, and operate on the basis of instincts not ration. you are fear, anger, aggression and hate driven, all forces that protect the physical animal self. These forces are dominant in you and you act them out."

He is saying this to a none-religious person who happens not to like these self-thankful religious babblers.

Well let me give you a response using your own words: "you are ruled by your lower self, the weak, the scared, and operate on the basis of fear driven instincts not ration, you are fear, weakness, insecurity and thristy for protection of some sort, all forces that push you into believing a god. These forces are dominant in you and you act them out."

Got it? Now go read it again one more time. You religious people don't stop humiliating and stepping on none relgious people, not even here outside of the IRI.

Re: Seagul

Another self proclaimed prophet preaching about god, AND imposing it onto others as well, IRI style (although a bit softer than IRI).

While you are at it, did you have tea with god too? How in your deeply ignorant mind do you know if my heart in not alreayd zendeh be eshgh, and is so without believing in god?

And who the hell are you to consider me a "koor" because I don't believe in god? JUST WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO PASS JUDGEMENT?

All of your religious people are the same in this area. Deeply ignorant individuals with illusions of knowledge and, oh, love! Get out of here. You believe in your religions because it comforts you and brings you stability, which is ok, until you start imposing it onto others, or consider yourselves "enlightened" and "above" others who don't believe. At that point, as curiious joe said, you need a good jolt of "just shut up and beshin sare jaat joojoo va enghad zer nazan" wake up call.

Which you just got now.

Re: Tahirih's response... A must read...

Quote from Tahirih: "...Jamshid you are such a fools ,I can smell your hojatiyeh foul odor from your foul mouths..."

Another quote from her post: "unlike you mozdors of ahmadinejad..."

Hojatieh, Ahmadinejad??? HOJATIEH?! God help us! Folks, Tahirih is declaring Jamshid to be a hezbollahi!!  LOL! That's a good one! Could anyone in here who knows me, even imagine me, Jamshid, as a hezbollahi??!!!!!!!

I am still laughing! This is just toooo good!

P.S. Who the hell is Mona and how does my post have anything to do with Mona? Because I supported Curious Joe's bashing of religion?

Yes, religion is for ignorants, any objections? Are you going to bash me, IRI style, for bashing religion? See the similarities between yourself and IRI?

your brain unable to think for yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You see curious joe, because you don't perceive something does not mean anything to others but you, and you don't even know that much.
You are not capable of articulating the little thoughts you have in a proper fashion and i tell you why.
You are ruled by your lower self the animal ego, and operate on the basis of instincts not ration.
you are fear, anger, aggression and hate driven, all forces that protect the physical animal self. These forces are dominant in you and you act them out.

Good for most religious people because they have received love and kindness from God, they are patient with you and treat you well and try to educate you.
But you think God does not want you, or you are to good for Him, that is why you resent and deny Him.
And you are right if something happens and we all die, well no one will die, the Knowledge has been given, if do not agree remember it is not us or we its you.

Hargez nameerad aankeh delash zendeh shod be eshgh
saabt ast the jariheye aalam davame MAA

Koorey asakeshe koore degar shod is enough for those who are under the impression that you really have something of substance.

But it is never late, remember the greatest sin is wasting time, it will not come to you once its gone.
So take the first step and overcome your ego.

Curious George, The monkey,

Funny HA HA HA HA

You're such little trouble maker monkey,aren't you?

You deserved it, man.
In most articles you're talking nonsense.

The BOSS

Curious joe,did you know your name is a monkey carton !!!!!

Curious joe,Jamshid you are sucha fools ,I can smell your hojatiyeh foul odor from your foul mouths!!!!!!
If you do not like what Mona is saying do not read it!!!!
In a free democracy,unlike the one you are used to it, everyone is free to express their idea in a respectfull way.
She is very respectfull,unlike you 2 mozdors of ahmadinejad ,and is letting people learn about the remedy of our world.
What is it to you to tell her and call her those names???
If you idiots read what she always has said ,is that she is a bahai by choice and her parents are not bahais ,so one of you ignorant people says "she is following her parents blindly" ????
If you think you can silence her,by saying foul words,korkhondid!!!!you did not silence Mona Mahmodnejad by even hanging her???!!!
We will be here wether you like it or not,so if you can not argue in a civil manner ,get out of it!!!!!
I am older and have tasted your bitter poision and not afraid of you at all!!!

To curios Joe

Consort with all men, in a spirit of friendliness and fellowship.

If ye be aware of a certain truth, if ye possess a jewel, of which others are deprived, share it with them in a language of utmost kindliness and good-will. If it be accepted, if it fulfill its purpose, your object is attained.
If any one should refuse it, leave him unto himself,

Beware lest ye deal unkindly with him. A kindly tongue is the lodestone of the hearts of men. It is the bread of the spirit, it clothe the words with meaning, it is the fountain of the light of wisdom and understanding….

P.S
For your info I'm not following my parents belief and religion.
If you don't agree with what I said""" don't accept it""" you don't need to use foul language to bring someone down to feel good about yourself.
Good for your parents to trained and educated some one like YOU!!

Good day,Sir

Re: Curious Joe

Although I sometimes don't agree with your political views, I do agree with your religious view. I definitely agree with your response in your last post. A sit-down-in-your-place and just shut-the-hell-up and buzz-off type of "power" response to some of these religious ignorants, is sometimes the only way to show them how misled they are.

In fact your response was so good and "roo kam kon", that I am formally requesting your permission to use your words exactly as you used them, in my future posts when it is called for.

Respond to Mona

You are one of the most fucked-up bullshit talkers (araajif-goo) on this forum. What do you mean by saying: "God is the great Physician Who alone can rightly diagnose the world’s sickness and prescribe the appropriate remedy."

First of all, there is no such a thing as God.  The whole concept of God is a mere figment of human imagination – just to fool you and get your money.  If a huge nuclear explosion or a comet hits the earth tomorrow, we’ll be all vaporized and gone, including your comments and my philosophies. The world's historical/hysterical sickness (through the succession of Moses, Jesus and Mohammad) needs a JOLT for people like you to WAKE UP and stop living in fairy tales and Disneyland of God, Religion, and Mickey-Mouse. 

I am sorry that your parents' inculcations have been so strong to make your brain unable to think for yourself.  It appears you are walking in the same footsteps of your Mom & Dad’s belief system, without bothering to design your own belief system (simply because you are laying back). Could it be that you are a merely intellectual lazy ass-hole, someone who “lays-back” and sits on Mom’s and Dad’s belief system – without ever bothering to question the foundations of those beliefs?

New remedy and solution for human problems must be adopted.

********************

God is the great Physician Who alone can rightly diagnose the world’s sickness and prescribe the appropriate remedy.

The remedy prescribed in one age is no longer suitable in a later age, when the condition of the patient is different. To cling to the old remedy when the physician has ordered new treatment is not to show faith in the physician, but infidelity.

Regard,
Mona

Re: Valid

Qutoe from your comment: "Islam and democracy are not mutually exclusive..."

What is Islam? Islam is Koran. Have you read the Koran? I had. Once in Farsi and once in English. By the very commands of allah to all moslems, which is in Koran, Islam can never be a democratic ideology.

1. First let me tell you that according to Koran, the laws and commands delivered to people through Koran are not subject to change. There are many references for this in Koran. Also, according to Koran, Mohamad is the last prophet. That means we are stucked with Koran.

2. In one example, Koran does not ask you, it commands you to wage war against the infidels and to kill them. It commands you to amuptate the limbs of a thief. It commands you to consider a woman half of a man in matters of inheritance among others matters.

In a democracy it is the vote of the people which would decide the law and policies. In Islam, it is the Koran (Allah) that had already cast the vote and made the decisions for you. Therefore, according to #1 and a few examples in #2 above (there are at hundreds more of examples), Islam and democracy are in a deadly conflict.

Therefore, Islam must stay out of politics, which in turn, and again according to Koran, it must not and can not be out of politics. Islam is a very political religion. In fact it is more political than spiritual. The mullahs in Iran are the TRUE representation of Islam.

And don't tell me about Rumi and Hafez being the true representation of Islam. They could have written a hundred more books, but still it is Koran that is Islam, not the other way.

Islam must first be contained, then be replaced. It may take a long time, but any human being deserve better than Islam.

To: Valid What is the

To: Valid

What is the function of this supposed Alliance which is going to be formalized "soon"? What are they allied against? What are their agenda? What is it that they want from the West? What does the Islamic Republic want? Is it that they want to hold on to their gas station --survive at any cost as long as their vile existence-- is guaranteed by the West at the expense of Iran's prosperous future? How far are they willing to go to achieve their goal? What kind of future they evision for the people of the region?

BTW, You implicity prove that your Islamic world (Khomeinist version of Islam) is indeed trying to take on the West and export its militant Islam across the ME. If the Islamic Republic's goal is to kick the US out of the ME then it has to be ready for the consequences and should not be surprised at any action taken against it whether now or in the future...