Jahanshah Javid

Yolanda you can buy the caligraphy shirts here

Masih Design and he has posted on i.com before.  Scroll to the bottom and see the women's line. 

Everything is sacred

The mystery

I agree with Ari's theory. Had it been put on by a women with big breast, the message would have been taken better.

However, from an aesthetic point of view, the fonts used in the phrase is also intriguing and unique, and can make people to wear the shirt.  

Raoul1955 , Just thoughts

How do you pick your victims of conversation? Do they have signs of smouldering swastika on their foreheads or do you rely on your psychic abilities and see their aura of halos around them or

do you have feathers on your head and say: hao! I White MisChief, you like god?

"...society celebrates its live conformists and its dead troublemakers..." - Mignon McLaughlin

P.S Nya nya nya! Raoul no spiike de pretty lingos. nana nana nana!

اینم یه توضیح...........

یه نفر بهش گفته اینو بپوشی میری تو اینترنت و  صدها نفر( ٥٣٨  نفر تا اینجا) می بیننت و سعی میکنن بفهمن منظورت چی بوده!

پانوشت   تفسیر «آی ساپورت خامنه ای» بنظر من از همه با حال تر بود.........(-:

Dear JJ

Haven't you got anything better to do? I am sure he's been telling his friends about the crazy man in the bus stop.

زنا ز ديدگاهم رد

This guy is a part of the new Hungarian Shia converts. That's why he was not friendly with JJ and his Farsi writing is a work in progress. What he meant to say on his shirt was

زنا زديد گاهم رد

Zena ze deedgaaham rad

Which translates to: In my view, adultery is rejected

Thanks to Mullah, (What, I actually said that)

I notes this also, lately I been seeing or hearing more of Iran present around me (in the west). As we know IRI is fully engage in forcing the brain power out of the country, these people regardless of what ever hardship they face living away from home they are active and expressing them self in any way they know and it seems in the west they been noticing this and effecting how they see Iran. This could be a big mistake by IRI, now and more in near future. To IRI opinion of west is very important (they exchange oil for weapon). All I am trying to say, this is not an accident this is something we will see more of as long mullah chase the brain, the energy and ordinary peopleout to west. 

JJ Jan

The words are placed so to appear on the breasts of the woman who is wearing it. It seems that the creator of the T-shirt is trying to make a political or a sexual statement, or both. The phrase is intended to indicate that in our society men are always looking at women's breasts in a sexual and salacious way, which to them define femininity and womanhood. 

jj, not necessarily

It could be political, among million other possibilities, including a hand me down. He  may be an activist, or a writer, or….   who actually knows what he is wearing. We just don't know. Many years ago, I was introduced to Nawal  El Saadawi's Woman at Point Zero  (//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nawal_El_Saadawi) by an American friend and I introduced her to an Iraqi. 

The comment you quoted, was pointing out that suffocation of women in Iran, or ignoring Burmese plight for that matter has a price for all of us. Sooner or later.

OKtaby

Correcting a phrase,

"He doesn't look Iranian. (For one, he's blonde.) "

realy?. Now imagine if an American would have used the same line about some here like;

You don't look American.(your hair is too black).

What is an Iranian look anyways?. I,m sure every one has a few family members who are fair & blonde too. In Iran We have mongolide,bedoine,Turkomen,blacks,caucasians among others. One of my younger cousins currently in Iran serving as a conscript is a copy cat of the dude in the picture. Guess he doesn,t pass the Irani looks standard.

I,m sure this was slip of a tongue  but my friend should know that Iran is not bound by his little neibourhood in Abadan(& even there you see diversity). Not all Iranians look like Ahmadi & Irani look is not limited to one's own race. Reverse racism?. Absolutly not but the champion of melting pot ideology :) should mind his words with caution as not to stereotype.

Cheers & thx for the blog!!!

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia

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I wanted to buy a shirt and a scarf with beautiful Persian calligraphy. I don't know where to get them. I like the calligraphy shirt very much in this photo:

//iranian.com/main/image/100874

It is way better than the guy's shirt!

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ari and anahid's answers seem to be the reason behind the intent of the message on the shirt.  what makes it intriguing is that it's very difficult to find shirts with persian words on it (with the exception of recent years in the u.s.).  i went to many shops and the bazaar in tehran and couldn't find one (initially, i was looking for a tehran university shirt).  there were many shirts with english on it: "california dreaming" "usa" "mickey mouse" ....  i asked one lady attendant why don't you have any shirts with persian written on it.  she said, nobody would buy it.

JJ

When it comes to one's own language, 000s of km away, it's always intriguing.

Hélas, given that the young man himself knew no meaning, the story behind is probably banal.

PS. cherish your mysteries. ;o)

BTW this could've come from Afghanistan as well.

Everything is sacred

Just thoughts

It is amazing that some letters become so important to some folks to the point of creating a discussion based on one's own thoughts and fantasies.I have seen many folks wearing shirts with Oriental letterings, but never thought of approaching them and asking if they knew what they meant.

I usually say: Describe your deity, if any, and one can assess your level of intellect.  In real life our interests are determined by our level of intellect and our depth of understanding of our environment.  :-)

JJJ how did you end up in Budapest?! Same route probably ;-)

Everything is sacred

Other languages

Rea, young people wear shirts with all sorts of messages and in languages they don't understand.

Had you seen one in Persian? Worn by a non-Iranian?

I just would love to know the story of how this shirt ending up on this man in Budapest.

Not a big deal, really

Young people often wear T-shirts with weird messages, or languages they don't understand. And they couldn't care less.

As for the message here, I'd vote for Ari S.

Islam in Hungary!

Instead of zeroing in on this dude, and how he ended up wearing a shirt which has a Gibberish design to his eyes, I prefer to (unofficially, and unprofessionally) translate a hadith about women. It goes like this:

A woman is a pudendum. Go figure.

visit....//www.ipinst.org/

Breasts

I think you got it Ari. It's a shirt made for women -- criticizing men for reducing women to breasts.

The answer lies in Berlin

Just a hunch -  the shirt was designed in Germany.

Plobabbly.

"...society celebrates its live conformists and its dead troublemakers..." - Mignon McLaughlin

The Real Shurlock Holmes: Please Stand Up

Thanks Ari for helping me fall asleep now.

Woman's T shirt

the other explanation

the guy you saw in the station was not real. your eyes and/or your camera have a photoshop program.

now lets discuss this from an Islamic "university professor" who is a conspiracy theorist:

"this man is not real and was placed in the picture by photoshop. The man in question is wearing headphones, so how could he hear JJ who is very soft spoken? Allahu Akbar. The man in question has receding hairline, and our study of Hungarians have shown their men never suffer from hair recession. The lady in the background is wearing yellow around her waist, which is against Hungarian morals because HUngarians are well known for being allergic to this color. This photo is part of a plot to attack Islam and we have successfully foiled that plot. This adds to the many plots that the world spends its morning to night time working on to overthrow the islamic revolution. Wa salamu alaikum"

Skin?

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Dear JJ, my blog tonight touches on ":zan az deedgahe mard"

Dear Jahanshah, it looks like you are missing your language and culture. Time for a trip to a place with few thousands more Iranians and possibly seeing some familiar faces. As far as the T-shirt, since the writing is at chest level, maybe the point is to say that woman is reduced in some men's eyes to a pair of boobs.  Sorry, tonight I am just being controversial . Come to think of it, your blog is more controversial than my blog :). I do think that phrase "zan az deegahe mard" is not unrelated to a point that I made in my blog tonight. when I wrote my blog, I had not read yours but I wrote about how many men are more comfortable with either young women, dead ones or very old ones but not as comfortable with women close to their own ages. It might be that women close to men's ages are perceived as threatening since these are women that men compete with for jobs and may have marital problems with. However, young women are thought as beautiful, like their own daughter, desirable. Old women are like men's mother and grandmothers so they are loved.  Dead women if they are famous are another category to admire. So that is one way to interpret "zan az deedgahe mard".

Now I got it JJ

Your explanation helped me understand the point of your blog.  Sorry for my immediate "Overly feminist" reaction to your "who cares".  

Just odd

Monda, gender assignments do matter. But I'm not sure the artist's message is social or political. It's just odd. I mean I've never seen anything like it.

Imagine seeing someone with a shirt that says "Woman from a Man's Point of View" in English. My reaction would be the same: what is this person trying to say? It's not funny, it's not clever, it's not a commercial brand, it's just a statement that's neither here or there.

The only thing that could make it interesting is that it could generate different reactions depending on the gender of the person wearing it.

My question, Why do we care, refers to all the questions about this shirt, not just the gender issue. Why do we care that a Hungarian is wearing it? Where did it come from?

Goes to show what gets people's attention: Familiarity. Your own culture and language. Especially in a foreign land.

strange

jj maybe you should offer him $ 5000 fiorinty and he would hand you the T-SHIRT which probably says MADE IN CHINA.           Maziar

Chance Purchase!

I'd go with your Thrift store theory. To me the odds that someone may have given this to him as a gift, does not seem too logical, since he would have defintely be curious enough to ask what those words meant...

He seems like he could not care less about the cause either.

more than likely he wakes up one day, after a major hangover, goes out shopping, happens into this store and picks this up, probably because it looked "cool"!!!

Any chance he would come back to that bus station again?:)