Jahanshah Javid

O pls to say neone

O pls

to say neone personally blames JJ, that we are talking about social phenomenons, google moogle dudul mudul is oversimplifying human lives.

A site that directly or indirectly advertises anything cannot was its hands free of the consequences. even if it wasn't personaly involved in hurting someone.

I am so glad that the person who put zahra's tape on the net, did what s/he did. Who cares about her life. The intellectual debate about taboos and censorship is sooooooo much importan. OH POO

social phenomenon

I think this website and the new trend of having videos and images of Iranians having sex is a social phenomenon that is worth discussing and analyzing. I wouldn't probably put the link of the website if I wanted to write about it (I haven't linked to it in my blog), but it would be hypocritical on the other hand to write about something without saying what you are exactly talking about. The reader has the right to see what we are talking about to have her own judgment.
It's quite a valid point that many of these videos are taken without the consent of the women and that might put them in danger in Iran. But at the same time, it's necessary to let people know what is out there, so that at least they become more cautious next time they are having sex. Haven't you heard about the case of Zahra Ebrahimi (the Iranian actress)? You might think this is a joke and you won't be caught, but hell, look at these videos. Many of them didn't know they are being filmed!

By the way, Iranian.com is filtered in Iran, so I doubt it that Iranian.com have a big impact on publicizing the website inside Iran. Also, take a look at the statistics, for example Alexa rankings, and see that some Iranian porn websites have much higher page views than many other Iranian websites, including Iranian, inside Iran. This berimfaza website will soon find thousands of visitors through Google. I don't think it's fair to blame JJ if any of the women in the videos face any problems.

God bless Internet!

I blogged about it here:

//www.khorshidkhanoom.com/archives/002359.php

I think you mised the balance!

Ok JJ at this point I have to say let’s respectfully agree to disagree! You have made your mind already that you are doing the right thing – I hope you are right but I know you are not as in my view this is not about “... judgment information and awareness trump "decency" every time”. I personally have not seen any Iranian adult site (I know that are out there and I do not have to/need to see them to be aware of the hypocrisy in Iranian society)

By the way would you add a link to child pornography because you are “reporting the truth” and you want to keep the “balance”?

Keeping the balance is a good thing and in my view you missed it this time.

I just saw a video from

I just saw a video from start to finish. Of course, iruni sex is always funny. But her face is completely visible. If anything were to happen to her, anyone who put the tape on the net, promoted it, told a friend about it, advertised it, falsly intellectualized it, used it against censorship, thought they were bringing someone to the public eye, accademicaly justified it has blood on their hands.
Yes, we need to know. But not when some poor chick might be in danger.
You could have had a small link somewhere if you REALLY wanted to report on it. A blog with a provocative text was not the way to go....VAGHEAN disapoint shodam
stil luv ya

Out in the open

Reply to Holdon:
Do you know what would happen if reporters (or anyone for that matter) were prosecuted for reporting the truth? Even the ugliest truth? Think about that.
I am not disputing that part of your argument that some (not all) of these videos are very damaging and illegal by any decent standard. Participants can be severely prosecuted in Iran.
But you have to balance that with the public's right to know the whole truth about something that is already OUT IN THE OPEN. In my judgment information and awareness trump "decency" every time.
And remember there are dozens (if not hundreds) of Iranian adult sites. I have mentioned only one now because it is shockingly revealing of our Iranian character (whether anyone likes it or not). Not making the public aware of it is unthinkable to me.

JJ, Informing the public is

JJ,

Informing the public is sacred. Getting rid of censorship is sacred. Being honest and looking is sacred. Putting people in danger is not sacred. It is foolish and irresponsible.

This is not about whether the women or men in the videos knew they were being filmed. It is about having thousands of people viewing the film and perhaps putting them in danger.

As far as informing us of what IRI authorities already know about or showing us something that a significant amount of people have already seen, I can tell you I love porn and I had never seen this stuff. Besides, who cares? We know that IRI authorities know there are political students in Iran but we don't post their addresses right?

This is only about putting images of people of having sex in a place where that can get you killed. Newspapers report rape all the time. They don't post victims' names. I think it's the same. I think it is only about not zahraamirebrahiming others.

Love ya
:)

It is not about the zarfiyat

It is not about the zarfiyat JJ – I think you may have missed my point. If the site was as such that everyone at least seemed to be the willing participate it would have been a different story. By your own saying some these women were not aware of being taped and the one who knew did not think the tape would make it to Internet. That is what I think the problem in this case. As someone may have mentioned if the site was about child photography, would you have added the link? I think not as that may subject you to prosecution. You are the Chief Editor of this site and I am sure that you think that are doing the right thing otherwise you would have not done it. However, I am offering there can be a different way of looking at this – that is the site was showing abuse and your link to it is a promotion of such a behavior (not subsidizeing - please do not take me wrong).

Zarfiyat

Holdon,
Don't mention the website and leave it to your imagination? Are we children? We're adults and as adults we should have the zarfiyat to look directly and honestly at what's going on in our country.

“I am only reporting” will not do

Hold on JJ – “I am only reporting” will not do – by your “reporting” the site gets more exposure and that we cannot forget (I would not have known about this site if it was not because of your link). “I am only reporting” reminds me of the gun lobbyist who say “guns do not kill people do”. Although the statement is true but does not make a good argument. You want to add the site to your site (even indirectly by writhing about it) be it but please know that, in my opinion, that makes you part of the problem. I am not too worry about any one of the individuals getting cut since that is very unlikely – we do have a big country after all. My issue with this site is that almost no women seemed to be a willing participates - they did not even seem to be enjoying it. My issue is you are promoting such a site and that is very disappointing from an “intellectual” kind of guy like yourself. You want us to know about such sites and behaviors in such a Islamic country – ok write about it and make us all aware but you did not have to add the link – that you could have left it to our imaginations

I'm reporting

Dear Azarin,

I think you are mistaking me with the owner of BerimFaza.com or the people who distribute adult material. I have no part in producing, distributing, or promoting these sexual materials.

If these videos were originally in my posession, I would have never made them public for the very reasons you mentioned.

But BerimFaza and similar sites have been around for a long time and are visited by thousands of people each day. So I am not revealing anything secret. All I have done is report what already exists.

I strongly believe that this is an important social phenomenon especially in a super religious country like Iran. Being unaware of it would do us more harm than good.

Iranian Women Wanna Iranian Porn Too .

I met some good iranian women in past and i undrestood many of iranian women like/love iranian porn too.

If you don't like it,don't watch it. 

Hi Jahanshah,  Since a

Hi Jahanshah,

 Since a few weeks I have been trying to talk about the situation of Ali Mahin Torabi and his imminent execution.I haven’t been very successful, considering the number of Iranians signing the petition. Ali is in this situation possibly because of a little mistake when he was 16 years old, and no matter how much we scream and how many proofs his lawyer finds, still the justice is in the hands of the victim’s family.

I have also heard about the extent of prostitution among Iranian girls who are kidnapped or just out of necessity and with any other option other than prostitution. Do you know what would happen to them if they are caught? How about the human smugglers of little girls and boys and virgins as our national export material to Arabic countries? How about the ones who make porn with children?

Dear Jahanshah, if your motto is Nothing is sacred - it means that you believe in Freedom of human beings and in the respect of individual beliefs and boundaries - still you cannot pretend to believe also at the same time in the sacredness of voyeurism and slavery and disrespecting a human being’s privacy.

How do you know – for sure - the ones who are making these creepy movies aren’t the same people who sell Iranian children online? How are you going to feel if only one of these girls – prostitute or not - were found and arrested? Or maybe executed? Or maybe stoned? Or maybe honor-killed by her family or a jealous boy friend or "a good neighbor"? How many useless signatures should we gather?  How many emails should we send? How many times we should feel helpless? What is really the difference between the ones who make it for profit and the ones who watch for a laugh?

I know if Ali Mahin Torabi dies, everybody is going to feel sorry. Yes. For once we are going to get united. Because death is the only thing – culturally - that is capable of uniting Iranians. But in Ali’s death, still somehow, we all will feel unconnected and totally innocent, as long as we had signed the petition. But how are we going to feel if any of these people – the ones we watched - die? How are we going to survive as human beings?

Please remember Ali and don’t participate in creating another Ali.

Jahanshah, I truly wish you had ignored that third email too.

 Azarin

PS: I am also happy that these words weren't your last words on earth. Anyone deserves better than this.  

//www.berimfaza.com/

//www.berimfaza.com/ very comprehensive. good collection. I will do my best to let everyone to know about this site.
TIME TO BREAK THE TABU.

Paging Mr. Ron Jeremy!

Quick, someone call Ron. That is a huge market, that can't be left for amateurs to fuck it up. Shooting porn clips from cell phones...PuhLeaaase.

You almost died?!?!

You sound like a khaleh khanbaji in your old age JJ (eva khoda margam bedeh!) :)))

 Given what we have been hearing about the effects of imposing  Islam on what was after all a semi-modern society, doesn't surprise me one bit. 

Mr. Fozolie

correction

Instead of BerimFaza.com they should rename it to BerimSafa.com :-)

To JJ:

To JJ: Now, it is cleared after you elaborated your thought: "What I'm trying to point out is the hypocrisy and contradiction. You would think that after nearly 30 years of intense Islamic propaganda society would become more "pious". But under all that religious crap biyaa o bebeen cheh khabareh!"

By no means, I was ridiculous. Not all readers are able to read what you were trying to point out!

At least we know the kids aren't sexually "repressed"!

thanks for the link. It was very shocking. It's probably banned in Iran, so I wonder how they make money.

More strict?!

How did I indirectly say IRI should be more strict? Don't be ridiculous, lotfan! What I'm trying to point out is the hypocrisy and contradiction. You would think that after nearly 30 years of intense Islamic propaganda society would become more "pious". But under all that religious crap biyaa o bebeen cheh khabareh!

To JJ: You say "But what

To JJ: You say "But what makes these extraordinary is that they take place in a state that sees itself as the torch-bearer of Islam (ghorboone ammash) and has the strictest rules on anything to do with men and women's private matters."

Indirectly, you are implying IRI must become more strict and you expect them so.

Iranian Porn ? Wonderful :D

Har ki begeh keh az film-e sexy badesh miad ya aghab oftadast ya dorough migeh.Damesh garm keh in page ro rah andakht.

Jahanshah Shoma cheh ajab e-mail javab dadin,Khasteh nabashi.hehehehe

Hmm...

The guy... whatever69 is right that these videos can end people dead, executed, hanged etc... that's something to think about, for the owner of the site, especially...

:))

I'm not going look at the site for the moment because I'm busy but good work whoever has created the website. Great work! These sorts of sites are created for profit, which comes mostly from people who masturbate quite a lot (that probably includes ALL potent men) but their side-effect is, I think, to break barriers (also taboos) and show what is going on :)

Out there

Anon69,
You can see some of these videos are made without the girl knowing. But it seems most know what's going on -- except they don't know it's going to end up on the Internet.

As for whether I should have mentioned this site or not, have no doubt that I'm not the first and Iranian authorities are well aware of it and others ones out there. I'm not revealing a secret.

I'm only reporting what's already out there, something SIGNIFICANT enough for you and everyone to know. These videos show new aspects of the Iranian character in the most private and intimate situations. It's a fucking goldmine, if you know what I mean :o)

Jesus bejesus. A couple of

Jesus bejesus. A couple of questions. Some of these videos have actual faces to them. Do the parties involved know they are on the net? More importantly, does anyone realize that this stuff can kill people in Iran? I didn't read any disclaimers and I didn't go through all the videos. Jahanshah khan, I think as a responsible adult, you should not have put this on your site. Not because of the content, I am no virgin mary and porn is important to me, I take it seriously. But this stuff can get people killed in Iran.