How Useful Are Iranian Know-It-Alls And Their Advice? Part 9

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How Useful Are Iranian Know-It-Alls And Their Advice? Part 9
by JahanKhalili
09-Dec-2011
 

Above is a picture of an American woman who visited Ayatollah Khomeini at his house. She did it all on her own, barely speaking any Farsi and without any connections, credential or help from anyone. She just went there after getting the idea to do it. I'll tell you more about it later in the blog.

We've already established that Iranians suck at geographical exploration, scientific study or cataloguing of their own flora and fauna, their own archeology and even their own history.

Iranians were foaming at the mouth when I told them that their Cyrus cylinder bullshit about being a human rights charter was a fraud. But they should have known better.

What are they, retarded?

All they had to do was look up the translation, instead of believing rumors. Iranians didn't know sh-t about Cyrus the Great's cylinder - or himself.

Do Iranians know anything about Ayatollah Khomeini? You would imagine that they should. I heard all kinds of nonsense about him from them. One claim was that he was Indian. It appears that he did in fact come from the Kashmir.

However, I later asked a friend from India who came from the Moussavi family, about the history of that family in India. According to him, they had originally immigrated to India from Iran, and this is a quite well-known fact in India. It doesn't take a genius to see that Ayatollah Khomeini - with his fair complexion - was probably not originally of Indian descent.

The Shiah movement spread from Iran to India, not the other way around. That means that Iran was a source of theologians for India's Shi'ites.

You don't have to be a genius to dig. But Iranians aren't interested in finding just anything.

They are only interested in information if its "useful". So they don't dig. Instead, they either arm themselves with information from others, or make it up themselves. But if Iranians need to delegitimize someone, they'll find a way to do it, and facts don't matter. All that matters is the end result.

The older Iranians living here in America are bellyaching about Ayatollah Khomeini. If you say the word "Khomeini", their facial expression changes, and starts looking like they're taking a hardened sh-t on a cold pot. Whenever they talk about him, its always the same stuff: how many people he killed, how evil he was, how he ruined Iran, etc. ....

This stuff is quite useless for a historian. No one can be either elevated to a god-to-be-worshipped, nor can they be lowered to be the most despised symbol of evil in the world. Human beings are in reality very complex, and their complexities cannot be grasped by mobs who are using them to make political statements.

Various ridiculous stories that would make a hardened psychiatrist go mad, are circulated about Khomeini. One version was the usual story about him being a CIA or British agent. One of the more colorful versions - told by an all knowing Iranian idiot at a dinner party - included a tunnel specially constructed for Khomeini, that ran from Jamaran to the UK.

I have given up telling Americans about the insane things Iranians believe, because it makes me look like an idiot for no reason, and they themselves can't quite grasp that such degrees of stupidity are even possible.

Then there's the well-known Tahrirolvasyleh hoax, that claims that Ayatollah Khomeini wrote in an obscure book (which no one can seem to produce) containing passages that condone pedophilia and bestiality. As "proof", they'll show you some files on the internet that aren't photostatic.

Or they'll claim that some bookstore has it, but they don't feel like wasting money to buy it. No where is it posted on the internet, as scanned photos. I suspect that if it ever is, that it will not be available for authentication by any expert. Someone showed me the book in Arabic on a website, but couldn't show me the relevant passages, so I could check on them.

As it is, no expert seems prepared to back up the claim, despite the fact that there are such experts who could do it if it was legitimate.

No one seems to have produced an actual example of the book complete with the incriminating passages printed in Iran or Iraq from a time where it would have been legally valid. If you express amazement at this idea, or any of the others, the Khomeini-haters either act like you're a simple minded person who cannot grasp such cerebral mysteries, or they get offended and suspect you of being in league with their enemies.

On the other side of the political aisle are the Iranians who fairly worship Ayatollah Khomeini.

He's infallible, according to them. He is almost like the sun. In their version of events, Iran was at its darkest time, when suddenly from the sky on an airplane came Ayatollah Khomeini and brightened everything up with his frowning face. Then came his followers, who were very dear people. You can't say anything even remotely critical about Khomeini in front of them, or they'll hate you. Maybe these assholes think that genuine goodwill comes from coercion.

But I don't give a sh-t what THEY think. They can kiss my American ass.

Out of their goodness, they harshly judged everyone who was not suitably religious or revolutionary just like them, and some of them were deprived of their livelihoods, sacked or even executed.... ....and Iranians lived happily ever after. If you even point out inconsistencies or problems with their version of him, they'll get angry and accuse you of being in league with their enemies.

Then, as the story goes, he made everyone happy and godlike. Iranians became a holy people, good and pure....

... and that, despite the fact that there were so many bootlegged Betamax pornography videos in Iran (some of them found in religious households) that it was probably easier to obtain them there than in the West.

... that, despite the fact that (aside from those good and truly sincere religious people we all knew) no one can stand some of the worst specimens among his followers - the superior acting holy people, full of takabor and having no consideration for anyone but people who thought exactly like them. They acted so superior. They were so self-serving and arrogant; judgmental, cruel and unforgiving.

They thought they were prophets, but they were really just a bunch of dicks. If I were to imagine that this is what Khomeini was like, I'd end up having a very low opinion of the man. But one thing I learned from living in Iran is to completely distrust public opinion.

I never actually learned anything particularly interesting about Ayatollah Khomeini from either side. That's because people who already have their minds made up about something aren't going to discover anything about it.

As usual, if you want to learn anything about Iran, its necessary to step back from the insane Iranians and go find out about it yourself.

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I am not an expert on Ayatollah Khomeini, and have read in its entirely only one of his speeches. I really don't know anything about him. One thing I know, however, is that I will not get the whole truth about the man himself from any side of Iranian politics.

Iranian know-it-alls aren't the people I'd consult, if I wanted to really find out things about the man that the public doesn't know much about.

That, as usual, requires individual effort and research.

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For someone who thought his country and people were so cool special, my father had the peculiar fear of my mother going shopping and getting ripped off by his gracious people.

He knew that as soon as they saw an American woman, they'd rip her off.

My mother was indeed somewhat helpless in Iran. He would talk about how great and holy Iran was, but it seemed that he didn't actually believe any of it - judging from his own actions.

It wasn't my mother's scene. She called it a "crazy place".

But one thing my mother didn't have was Khomeini-itis.

She couldn't have caught it from the Iranians, because she barely spoke any Farsi.

She didn't learn to repeat the ridiculous stories made against him made by some, or the silly worshipful gushing excesses that others engaged in. She saw things from her own point of view, and felt no obligation to echo the points of view around her.

One of the things she did was quite remarkable.

To this day, anyone who meets her will never suspect that they are meeting someone who did something like what she did.

Yet my mother did something in Iran that most Iranians didn't even do.

She visited Ayatollah Khomeini, in his own house.

That she did this without speaking much Farsi, and without connections, should tell you something.

Westerners might be naive. They might be blundering and not versed in the niceties of Iranian culture or Islam. They might step on people's toes and make fools of themselves when they're outside of their own environment.

They might screw up some Iranian job interview, interrogation, or application for traveling to Iran.

Iranians who are devoted to tripping up Westerners who are in Iran and who aren't familiar with them and their stupid ways, will always find ways to do it.

I know that Iranians worship their way of doing things.

Its one of the few things they do very well.

Westerners might get suckered and overcharged when buying something at a store in Iran, by greedy Iranians.

BUT they occasionally have succeeded in doing things there that Iranians didn't succeed in doing - and that is indeed one of the main ideas behind these blogs.

My mother went to Jamaran, and visited Ayatollah Khomeini in his home. She took one of my sisters with her. To this day, I don't know how she did it. But I remember when she got home, there were two female Islamic Revolutionary Guards with her.

She invited them in as if they were friends she had made while visiting Ayatollah Khomeini. They were both silent. Then they stepped in and looked around briefly.

My mother seemed oblivious to the fact that they had come home with her to investigate her and to find out who she was. In her naiveness, she assumed that they were simply women who had hit it up with her and were curious and were dropping by for a cup of tea.

I quickly offered them tea, and turned on the Iranian hospitality. They stood there looking at us and talking to each other.

I had a little kitten. I brought it out and showed it to them. It was still only a few weeks old, and drank milk out of a bottle. It was so cute that it broke the ice and the women started smiling and cooing over the kitten. I spoke with the women.

After a while, they passed up the invitation to stay longer and left.

When they had left, I asked my mother how it went. Did you get to speak to him? No, unfortunately, she didn't. He did all the talking - and she hadn't understood a word of it.

My father never seemed to know anything about the visit. I never heard him comment on it. Its incredible that he, in his supposedly infinite wisdom and knowledge, knew nothing about my mother's greatest triumph while living in Iran.

Neither did any other Iranian know about it.

Neither do any of the Americans that my mother associates with, know or care that she did this.

Yet my mother achieved something that none of these people ever did. ... and I respect her for it.

She has no fame or recognition for it. So what? Having done the thing is its own reward.

Consult with an Iranian know-it-all, or bow to the masses... and kiss your ability to do these things goodbye.

The result-driven Iranians I knew would never have done such a thing. They all already had their minds made up. There was no curiosity in them to go and have a look at something just for the sake of doing so.

An American woman who barely spoke Farsi went and visited their leader, while they sat around and either made up flattering BS about him or made up insulting BS about him.

Needless to say, many Iranians fail at even knowing anything about one of their own historic figures who lived not-that-long ago.

Americans DO things.

While Iranians sit on their asses and talk - people like my mother do things without consulting anyone.

Americans might be naive. They might be like fish out of water in Iran. But they occasionally try things blabber-mouth Iranian know-it-alls would never try.

And they occasionally succeed.

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I'm already preparing my next blog.

Get ready! 


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من غلام قمرم غیر قمر هیچ مگو

Hooshang Tarreh-Gol


من غلام قمرم غیر قمر هیچ مگو/ پیش من جز سخن شمع و شکر هیچ مگو/ سخن رنج مگو جز سخن گنج مگو/ ور از این بی‌خبری رنج مبر هیچ مگو/ دوش دیوانه شدم عشق مرا دید و بگفت/ آمدم نعره مزن جامه مدر هیچ مگو/ گفتم ای عشق من از چیز دگر می‌ترسم/ گفت آن چیز دگر نیست دگر هیچ مگو/ من به گوش تو سخن‌های نهان خواهم گفت/ سر بجنبان که بلی جز که به سر هیچ مگو/ گفتم این روی فرشته‌ست عجب یا بشر است/ گفت این غیر فرشته‌ست و بشر هیچ/ مگو گفتم این چیست بگو زیر و زبر خواهم شد/ گفت می‌باش چنین زیر و زبر هیچ مگو/  

خیز از این خانه برو رخت ببر هیچ مگو/

 


yolanda

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by yolanda on

Omg! You are a cannibal! You wrote in your bio above your mom's photo that:

"I serve roasted Iranian ass, day and night. Doesn't it smell good?"

I flagged one of your dirty posts! You have issues!


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Luke I am your father

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on


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Truth be told, I'm falling in love with you and your Mama!

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

But don't know which one to chose.

On one hand, you have such manly features, that akh, makes you wanna vomit

And then your creator, the one that gave birth to you. The most genuis individuale on Earth since Borat.

I don't know man, it's very hard to make up my mind, any suggestions, please?


JahanKhalili

That's why he projects his secret liking for the guy on others

by JahanKhalili on

He's himself in love with the guy.


JahanKhalili

I think Hooshang secretly likes Khomeini

by JahanKhalili on

He's so obsessed with him, and with seeing the universe as a phenomenon framed by some sh-t about Khomeini.


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by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

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You had you dinner and now you're getting horny ?

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

Iraj you were asking why?

Is this enough?

Do you have the vaguest idea how many times a day he insults Iran and Iranians in here?

If you had a kid in your house behaving like this how would you have reacted?

This poor kid probably had an abusive a..hole Persian papa, now he's getting his daily dose of therapy in here. 

None of this is an acxuse for daily incoherent ranting and isulting others.

JK I challenge you to show any of the garbage you've posted here, in any of your classes and see what kind of a reaction you'll get. You're so incredibly ignorant and obtuse it buggles the mind. A peasant Kant is a close approximation.


JahanKhalili

Thanks, Iraj!

by JahanKhalili on

She's my mom.

Lived in a country where she heard "Death to America!" every day for four years.

And what did she do?

She went and visited Ayatollah Khomeini, without discussing it with sore Iranian exiled blabbermouth losers like these. 


iraj khan

why getting so mad at Khalili?

by iraj khan on

He's simply stating that Iranians are 'bad'.

Question: Is he alone here on this website?

A: No, we have many more in here, for example the one who writes under khres or anonymous observer.

Khalili: Woman's picture is awesome!


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TL, that was an astute observation, thanks for the laugh

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

Tis child is so disagreeable I almost missed your comment; funny and sad at the same time. BTW strictly on the informational side: I thought you liked it, when its freaky?


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Stupidity is all yours, suffice it to say , if you had written

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

any of this for a class, all they would have given you would be an E, for effort.

As a previous comment mentioend you seem to have an obsession with prsentign Iranians is a dark manner . What is this suppose to be:" more negative stuff about Iranians than anything I could come up with." You remain the number one incoherent, Islam-apologist hypocrite on this site; congrats.


JahanKhalili

Your stupid responses

by JahanKhalili on

... say more negative stuff about Iranians than anything I could come up with.


JahanKhalili

ashamed

by JahanKhalili on

For what?

Telling the truth as I see it?

JahanKhalili

In reality

by JahanKhalili on

Most of these people are responding because the truth I wrote about kicks their asses and they resent it.


yolanda

..............

by yolanda on

This blog is part #9, so how many sequels are coming? #10, #11, #12, #13, #14? When are you going to have the finale for this topic? Are you going to dedicate your entire life "educating" Iranians?

We got it: you are only half Iranian, you feel that you are "better" &  more superior than the pure Iranians......you come here day in and day out pointing out the shortcomings of Iranians......you are not proud of your Iranian heritage......you feel ashamed and bitter! You want to mold Iranians according to your template!


Rea

The most discussed blog on IC ?

by Rea on

Just in case anybody wondered why the IRI is going to stay in power another 30 yrs till there is nothing left of Iran.


JahanKhalili

Yeah I just love attention from stupid Iranian fanatics

by JahanKhalili on

Makes sense.


Tiger Lily

Thanks, babes

by Tiger Lily on

...!

But just imagine how freaky things are if I'm the one with the brain of a babe! LOL!;)

 


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We all know what you care about is just getting more attention

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

It probabaly goes back to your childhood.

Me and my family left Iran because of Shah and his Rastakhiz party you moron. How stupid can you get.

Unlike you and your type we 've also built many resources and infrastructures to help the Iranian communities abroad and facilitate the overthrowing of IR, your favourite mullahs.

Wanderign whores are the ones that go and listen to Ayat Shaytan Khomioni to hear what he has to say about inserting the tip of his penis in the "correct location," and call it 'spirituality.' Shame on you.


BacheShirazi

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by BacheShirazi on

Why do you guys always give this guys blogs so much attention. I have
read about three of his blogs now, and in each one he portrays his Iranian
father negativly. This is obviously just some guy who saw his mean 
middle eastern dad  treat his white European-American mum like shit
and he still has not got over it. To over come this feeling he has to
constantly portray Iranians as the scum of the earth and white americans
as a god like people.

 

That's all Jahan Khalili is, nothing else. 


JahanKhalili

You guys are spoiled

by JahanKhalili on

And you're actually very similar to the worst specimens among the fanatics in Iran.

You're used to shaking people down with this BS, and when you find someone who isn't going to collapse with awe over it, you hate it.

Get used to it.

Your BS won't work on everyone. 


JahanKhalili

If you were any good, you'd be in Iran fighting the fight

by JahanKhalili on

... instead of playing hookey here and feeling despondent because someone got sick of your BS.


JahanKhalili

Go get executed for all I care

by JahanKhalili on

At least I'm not an Iranian exile who was thrown out of own country because my people made a revolution against my class, and am now like a whore wondering around telling horror stories to get sympathy and money.


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We're going to establish the facts one by one according to your

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

own statements.

Just a few post ago you were accusing all, of disrespect and dishonesty towards Iranian peole, and now when asked a simple question about political prisoners, you jusy shrugg you shoulders.What happened to your love for your people?

Bud that's not gonna work.

At least we could all agree that you JK is a  hypocrite when it comes to caring for Iranian people.

You moron our comminites have been fighting for the past 32 years Where TF have you been.

This is actually the pen name I use in many journals, most of them also include my picture as well.

A bar of soap and a bucket of water is waiting for your mouth, here in Tornoto. Let us know when you come around here.


Rea

Hitler's baby is riding again

by Rea on

Power to the offshoots. ;o))


JahanKhalili

Iranians didn't even describe anything in Iran accurately

by JahanKhalili on

That's why foreign researchers had to investigate them.

Now, do you REALLY think I care about your descriptions of me? 


vildemose

 The only way I can

by vildemose on

 The only way I can describe this entity is to call him an red-neck basiji...I did not even know they existed. Good to know. I think David Duke, Ahamdinejad's gues of honoer had something to do with finding this creature.

 

A state of war only serves
as an excuse for domestic tyranny.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Born December 11, 1918


JahanKhalili

You're right - don't care

by JahanKhalili on

After talking to you, I found out that i don't give a shit.

Go to Iran and fight, if you feel that strongly 

Quit showing off here with your hatred, you anonymous chickenshit.