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Let the Islamists go
14-Jun-2010
The recent turn of events in Iran which includes the ratcheting up of physical as well as verbal attacks on rival Islamist groups within IRR, the Islamist Rapist Republic’s power circles makes it abundantly clear things are heading from bad to worst and possibility of a night of the long knife, a la Nazis, cannot be discounted.
As the out of power Islamists formerly known as “reformist” vie for the leadership of the multipolar “Green Movement” increasing number of their activists who for the first time have had a taste of what IRR justice system is all about have begun to write semi-confessionals and half-apologias.
They condemn some of the crimes committed against Iran and Iranians by the Islamist regime which they have been an integral part of and apologize for their silence while those atrocities were taking place. The quantifiers, half and semi, are due to their insistence on being steadfast in loyalty to the man who was the cause of it all, the mass murderer Khomeini, aka, “Imam” and not coming clean about all that which was done.
If Pastor Martin Niemöller was one of these Islamist chaps who are facing what Niemöller faced with the Nazis, he might have altered his famous poem thusly:
"THEY CAME FIRST for the MKO,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Mujahed Khalgh.
THEN THEY CAME for the Nationalists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Nationalist.
THEN THEY CAME for the Baha’is and Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Baha’i or a Jew
THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."
Fortunately there are many conscientious Iranians as well as others who do speak up and condemn what IRR is doing to all including some of its own. History of the 2oth century and the vile behavior of Nazi’s rabid twins the Islamists have taught all a thing or two about the price of staying silent.
IRR, let Iranians including the out of power and yet unrepentant followers of the mass murderer Khomeini go, the world is watching your every crime there will be a day of reckoning!
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
//www.rahesabz.net/story/17364/
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Fred, laissez-faire dichotomy
by Marjaneh on Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:16 PM PDTThere is some inherent dichotomy
(which is apparent in its "renditions" in a lot of Persian literature in the form of "dualism"...)
between religion and "materialism" in the Iranian population, but the tipping scale lies heavily on religion and Mr Theo (god). Please, also note, that I not only mentioned religion but superstition in my post below.
Some might say, that Iran is the manufacturer of religious faiths and sects...
As for the Nazis, yes there are specific similarities, (apart from the obvious traits of fascism,) e.g. the fundamental notions of "devotion" and "worship" - this psychosis is shared with "khoda shah mihan" [god, shah, 'homeland'].
(There was also an enormous amount of "religious" propaganda activity by the Nazis, which I don't want to get into here, but needed to be mentioned)
However, an acquired political ideology and religious faith (born into) are different kettle of fish and consequently one is more easily shaken off than the other, especially when endoctrinated
and of course, there is a difference between religion and religious fundamentalism (prevalence of which is quite evident)....
Every fascism is an index of a failed revolution - Walter Benjamin
Fred, the day of reckoning
by Sargord Pirouz on Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:39 AM PDTFred, the day of reckoning was in 1979. Get over it already.
Iranian laissez faire "nonsense"
by Fred on Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:47 AM PDTPrior to the advent of nationalism and other –isms, religion has always been the primary cheerleader of wars, so having the Islamist Rapists using it during the Iraqi imposed war is nothing out of the ordinary.
Although some with convincing arguments do not buy the entire premise, but if one were to say since Iranians who fought in the imposed war were religiously inspired and therefore continue to be so thirty years later--then the Germans who religously and overwhelmingly became Nazis and fought for their cause must have romaine(ed) ardent Nazis to their last days which is demonstrably not so.
Iran has a long written history, dogmatic religiosity of the kind these Islamist Rapists have is an anomaly and like the Safavid era and prior to that an import. Every time the rulers got too religious for the Iranians’ comfort like the last days of Zoroastrianism cutting into their preferred Laissez-faire way of life, they were discarded by the majority.
Fred, that's mostly romantic nonsense
by Marjaneh on Tue Jun 15, 2010 09:51 AM PDTTry having a look at the figures of martyrs during Iran/Iraq war...
Most of the population - predominantly in poverty (no change there) - is mostly superstitious and religious, one way or another...
Well, I'm stunned. Never thought I'd see Fred going all rosy-eyed.
Every fascism is an index of a failed revolution - Walter Benjamin
Iranians' religiosity
by Fred on Tue Jun 15, 2010 08:24 AM PDTReader1,
I don’t know where you get the idea that “overwhelming majority of Iranian population are moselm and can be classed as devoted moselms.”
What I know is to be classified as a “devoted Moslem” as far as voluntarily pray regularly, observe the main tenants and rituals of Islamic religion or any religion for that matter; Iranians are demonstrably abject failures in those regards.
Iranians’ religiosity is uniquely Iranian which is amply represented in Persian literature, national customs and behaviors which is having your wine and other pleasures of flesh alongside private time with your creator for raaz-o-niaaz.
As the followers of the charlatan Ali Shariati like to say the usage of Islamic religion was a counterbalance to the rampant Communism among the Iranian intelligentsia which the ruling regime at that time was suppressing and leaving the Islamists to flourish.
Now after experiencing the past thirty one years of what the charlatan Ali Shariati’s theory in practice logically leading to IRR, Iranians seem ready to go back to their live and let live religiosity.
Fred: Creative and elegant writing but …
by reader1 on Tue Jun 15, 2010 06:21 AM PDTYou are WRONG WRONG WRONG …
The overwhelming majority of Iranian population are moselm and can be classed as devoted moselms. Any changes you wish to bring to the Iranian society must carry the majority along. You can rightly argue that the majority are misguided and brain washed into the doctorine of Islam but if you believe in democracy you must respect the wishes and beliefs of the majority. Democracy did not visit the people of Europe over night, it was a gradual process, not a revolutionary process but evolutionary by nature. A century ago euoropean church were as reactionary and brutal as our Mullas today. They jailed Galileo and Copernicus for believing that the earth goes round the sun!
I wish I am wrong, but I have my doubt whether we will see true democracy in our beloved country that soon, but one day it will come. It may be too late for you and I, but definitely for children of our children, it will come. As you elegantly said in your previous very touching blog of 28th may titled “Going Back To Iran":
I have a dream that one day on the green hills of Gilan, the sons of former murdered political prisoners and the sons of Islamists will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that one day Iran, a country sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression; will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
I have a dream that our little children will one day live in an Iran where they will not be judged by their gender or creed but by the content of their character.
I have a dream today!
"Jawohl, mein Führer!" - Wir brauchen Kanonen anstatt Butter
by Marjaneh on Mon Jun 14, 2010 04:23 PM PDT"Democracy Schtunk!
Liberty Schtunk!!
Frie [frei] Sprechen Schtunk!"
Heil Hynkel!
Almost the entire speech sounds too familiar, as do Herr Garbage etc . and all the rest of the clapping Mitläufer and their daily (for decades) Putsch ... I wouldn't trust those people with their sudden "awakening" either. (Most likely just jumping ship or have been ousted anyway.)
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMV4oGzxu7g
Lots of people are NOT getting involved at all, just waiting for their red carpets of return and many others are hesitant because of the lack of transparency. Too much "kase zire nim kase"...
Every fascism is an index of a failed revolution - Walter Benjamin