Hell to pay

Share/Save/Bookmark

Fred
by Fred
08-Dec-2009
 

Under the severest of circumstances imaginable the Student Day was just commemorated in Iran by more than just the students.

The IRR, the Islamist Rapist Republic uniformed and plain clothes goons used cattle prods, live rounds, all sorts of crowd dispersing gases, slashing with automobile fan belts, ax handles and other creative ways of using everyday implements for inflicting death and misery on the enslaved Iranian population.

Although the Islamist Rapists had ordered the foreign media to stand down for three days while they were taking care of business, news of people having come out in numbers and in many cities has reached the sane world. So has the some of the details of savageries by IRR and the number of arrests.

The question is for how long the beleaguered Iranians can afford being beaten up, shot at, raped and murdered in cold blood at Islamist Rapists’ rape centers without impunity.  For how long is the sane world going to stand idly by, like it did during the “election” time, witnessing all these transgressions on the most basic of human rights and do not a damn thing.

The enslaved Iranian people are standing up to armed to the teeth Islamist Rapists and need help in their epic battle. The outcome of this fight will shape the future of Middle East for generations to come.

Should the democracy craving, western world leaning, America admiring Iranian people win, the chances of sanity gaining foothold in the region and spreading is multiplied by a large factor.

On the other hand should the forces of nuke acquiring messianic Islamist Rapists succeed in quashing yet again the freedom aspiring people, there will be hell to pay by not just the people of the region but by all.

Before it is too late America has to throw in her moral and material weight backing up the people, the alternative will be far costlier in more ways than one.

Share/Save/Bookmark

Recently by FredCommentsDate
ادا اطوار اسلامی
5
Dec 05, 2012
مسجد همجنسگرایان
1
Dec 05, 2012
Iranians are legitimate target
10
Dec 04, 2012
more from Fred
 
Midwesty

Amir jan,

by Midwesty on

You are righ bro!


AMIR1973

I beg to differ...

by AMIR1973 on

In my opinion, avoid personal attacks on Fred. If one disagree with his opinions, then criticize his opinions. Even if Fred makes personal attacks, one should still stick to the realm of ideas and not make ad hominem attacks.


Midwesty

He is not that seriouse you know...

by Midwesty on

We shouldn't take him too seriously.
I remember when someone called the Swine flu "the Mexican Flu" pissing off 111,211,789 people, he came back and instead of apology said, Geez! People can't you take a simple joke?
Since we are talking about viruses, I always wonder why they call it "West Nile virus"?


Mehrban

Bavafa

by Mehrban on

Maybe the difference between the countries you mentioned as more independent is that they are Democracies where the power of the leaders is in the vote of the electorate and therefore they are accountable to the people and have to work in the people's interest not in the interest of a foreign power to safeguard their position.  

In a democracy even if we get stuck with a Chalabi type for a term (which I don't think we have to), we will not be stuck with him/her for the next term or worse, for ever.  


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

fred is definitely making a difference in the world

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

don't you see? he comes to my blog. drops some pellets about shaming me. boom. done. then he comes back here and praises the lord pentagon. 

what a difference fred makes. wow. he's definitely DIFFERENT than I am. you know. the net result is that someone might stand outside the federal building longer??? hopefully. anyway keep up this fighting fred. it's definitely going to help the nation of iran achieve achieve achieve! keep blogging. stop acting. more talk. less action! Fred's mantra. 


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

oh amir why don't you see it?

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

this surge had more to do with Iran than with Af/Pak!!! keep those troops near and dear to those Iranians. Sometimes just the whiff of american weapons makes people do nutty things..... like go democratic.


Midwesty

Fred,

by Midwesty on

Don't be so dramatic...as we know your tribe loves drama!


AMIR1973

Leave a message, Uncle Sam is busy...

by AMIR1973 on

Busy killing people in Afghanistan and Iraq. Once he's done mongering democracy there, he'll turn his full attention to Iran. 

Fred

Tricyclist

by Fred on

As soon as you've finally answered the questions you refuse to answer, you will get response to your questions loaded or not,  till then don't hold your breathe while pedaling.

What do you mean by my "tirbe"

What do you mean by "you people".

What do you mean by "too much brain...not spending much from your own pocket"

A copy of your post is below, lets see how truthful a person you are how with clear head, unprejudiced mindset you can process others' opinions and how you have the intellectual integrity to stand behind your words, need be take them back or correct them. Lets see you" have the guts".

 

by Midwesty on Tue Dec 01, 2009 09:01 AM PST

I have to admire your skills of deception which pretty much tells me from what tribe you are.
As soon as you get me to believe that you might be an Iranian who really feels for his/her country, then something like this blog comes up resrufaces your "Pateh".
What a shame that you people don't have the guts to take things in your own hands but rather try to either Americans or Iranians to do your dirty job.
Too much for brain work and not spending much from your own pocket.


 


Midwesty

Fred,

by Midwesty on

"Before it is too late America has to throw in her moral and material weight backing up the people, the alternative will be far costlier in more ways than one".

What America are you talking about? The corporate America who is willing to sell his own mother for money? The America of defense industrial complex that even American presidents didn't trust? The America of oil companies who love and cherish dictators?

What material? Laser guided missiles, depleted plutonium bullets, napalm bombs,...?

What moral, the VOA, the US media with below 30% approval rating, CIA's rendition flights, Abu Gharibs, Bagrams, ...?

Your essays very much are like a cheesy Hollywood movies. Great starting and an awful ending.

You have no idea how conscientiously or otherwise you are undermining the support for the real voices of freedom in Iran.

What part of, "No War, No Sanctions" don't you get?

What part of, "leave Iraninas alone" don't you get?

What part of, "Iranians need not nannies, whether IRI typer or Chinese, or American" don't you get?

What part of, "If Iranians kicked one dictator out they are perfectly suited to kick another one out any time they want without anyone's help" don't you get?

What part of, "The damage that previous US admin did to the reform movement, IRI would never dream of doing" don't you get?

...and what part of, "if you are so worried about Iraninas why don't you go there and join them" don't you get? 

 


Bavafa

Mehrban: You are right

by Bavafa on

Mehrban: You are right that there isn't truly any government that is completely independent but I think we both can agree there is difference between US, France, UK type independence and one of the country that is run by Ahmad Chalabi type. Didn't we have an "Ahmad Chalabi" type brought back to power in Iran in 1953? I think there is a difference.

Mehrdad


Mehrban

Bavafa

by Mehrban on

Any thing can be taken away easily.  A freedom independently won can also be taken away.  We have seen that happen too.  I too like the sound of independence but when I think about it, I am not sure what it really means in todays world order, I am not sure which country is really independent in the world, is US independent?  are the French? Germans? I don't think anyone is independent maybe they are all sort of interdependent.  I am concerned that many of us maybe operating under false assumptions.

 


Fred

Birds of a feather flock together

by Fred on

Islamists/Anti-Semites and their likeminded lefty allies have no problem fighting to the last enslaved Iranian under the yoke of “imperialism fighting” Islamist Rapists.

The problem aside their largess with Iranian lives  is they do all their valiant fighting for  their wacked out ideas from the safety and comfort of the sane world they so despise.   


Bavafa

Mehrban: I am not

by Bavafa on

Mehrban: I am not necessarily advocating any particular type of government and whether it needs to be different then Western model or not. What I understand from this "shoar" is that let us be independent and choose our own path.

I strongly believe that a change that is brought by the Western/Eastern world will make sure that their own interest is served first. Democracy will never be implemented in the way that is implemented in their own back yard because it will not serve their purpose.

A freedom that is given to you, can be taken away just as easily, we have seen this over and over again.

Mehrdad


MOOSIRvaPIAZ

I'm with Bavafa

by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on

Western world is hardly reliable. Where was the western world when Saddam gassed Iranians/Kurds? Oh yeah, selling him the components and shaking hands with him.


Mehrban

Bavafa

by Mehrban on

There was an article at IC not long ago, taking this Shoar of na sharghi na gharbi.... to task.  It was claiming that it was a similar shoar in the 79 revolution that in concept threw things off course.    While in general principal I agree with of this motto,  I am not sure how it is applied.  If we want Democracy in Iran, which means the will of the people ruling the country we would in fact be following a western model (I beleive).  This shoar that may end in "Dolat meli gari" (while not defined) is quite difficult to apply and it may again land us in the territories where Souroush and alike tried to come up with a new model for our government and misrablly failled and are taking about 30 years to come around to advocating a secular democracy.

I feel we should stop trying to reinvent the wheel.  This comment has nothing to do with any other idea outside of its topic. 

I am sorry that I do not remember the name of the writer or the title of the article but credit is due. 


Bavafa

I am not sure if Fred is

by Bavafa on

I am not sure if Fred is deaf to hear what the Iranian students were saying or he just listens to the materials that is being provided to him by his masters.

Na sharghi, na gharbi… dolate meli gari

He keep advocating the meddling and invasion of Iran by foreign powers

Mehrdad