Persian Realm

No Martial Law in 2009????????

Martial law was not declared, bacause they had their foot soldiers by the thousands roaming the streets.  The Shah had to declare it because his security apparatus ws not set up for domestic disturbance.  These murderors of the Islamic Rapist Republic, know exactly what force they are up against and hence use the Basij, Plain clothes security as their shield.  So in 1979 their was Marshal Law in 2009 there ws Basij Marshal Law,  in 1979 less than 20 people died in Jaleh square (if that) in 2009 over a thousand were slaughtered in the streets.  So make no mistake.  this regime is in the same bind, if not worse that what the Shah's regime was in and is well prepared to confront its citizens with a much worse lethal force.  Hence why surgical attacks are the only salvation.

DK

I agree, we'll never know!

in those days "well, ....", and how many of you remember someone with a managerial job description weren't harassed/arretsed/ lost their job right after 79? savaki, taghoti, etc lables

p/s we Iranians tend to choose nekbat and make lousy decisions.   

Thank you, Darius

Dear Darius,
Thank you for this wonderful posts. Lt. General Khadami deserves much credit. Far from being one of the unsafest airlines in the world, as Iran Air's reputaion goes today, the Iran's flag carrier airline was the world's fastest growing airline and a proud of every Iranian, save Khomeini and ilks of sargord (sargoh) Pirouz.
Islamists assassinated him because he served Iran and he was a member of Iran's religious minority.
Thank you again for the wonderful post.

Sargord

Sargord,

Mullahs don't need to specifically declare martial law; Iranians live under martial law at all times. This regime arrests, murders and maims people on the street at will.

Tell us, where you get this from: "Had something like the Ashura riots taken place in America, US law enforcement are instructed to use lethal force."

When was the last time US security forces used lethal force? They certainly did not during LA riots.

Thanks to him and all those who help Iran with its flag carrier

I am proudly using that flag/logo on my plane as it is uniquely and unmistakably Iranian.

Mehrdad

Martial Law.........;))

In future riots the people will eat NAJA, IRGC, and which ever bastard that dares to take arms on them for bloody lunch followed by monkey man, Ali geda and the rest of his tribe boarding planes to exile (if they are lucky enough not be assassinated by their own goons) just as they almost did during the popular uprising of Ashura 2009.

I recommend the majority of us not take the barking of these “poppy dog baseji exiles” to seriously, don’t waste your energy and let your blood boil over hot air, just imagine that every time they make a comment it’s like someone farted, no big deal just a release of some minor hot gas ;))

A funny and witty article worth revisiting about this bunch ;)

Faati, you got some esplainin to do!!!

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Boro Jamesh Kon Colonel Sanders-

Had the US president come out on TV and declared all those who opposed him "dirt and dust" he would have been impeached immediately.  And the US Law enforcement would have arrested his ass and threw him in the trash can of history, where Khamenei belonged.

Your usual load of crap comparison as usual.  Don't you ever get tired of making a complete fool of yourself?  Evidently not:)

Oh, and Cheers and Salam:)

Which Totalitarian System needs a Martial Law ?

Specifically When it controls EVERY Aspect of your Life, From What you want to wear, to what you can or cannot drink ( including your favorite Beer SPink Jaan ), what you are allowed to watch etc ...

Martial Law are usually carried out under dictatorial regimes not Totalitarian ones.

Although in Both Dictatorial and Totalitarian regimes political rights are denied ... However in most dictatorial regimes people enjoy many civil liberties which are inexistent in Totalitarian regimes.

That is why when Martial Law is declared one immediately notices the sharp contrast in their daily lives. For example in Chili after Pinochet Took Over. It was only Politically that people could see the sharp contrast between the two. Unless one politically active or was involved politically against the regime one could be arrested, tortured in silence or assassinated. But civil liberties were more or less the same be it under Salvadore Allende as they were under Pinochet. 

But in the case of Totalitarian regimes. There is no real sharp contrast between Life Prior to an Upheaval or After. People only notice that life becomes tougher than it was.  

In the case of most Latin American Dictatorships Martial Law was only applied in exceptional situations when the country is in a state of upheaval which jeapordizes the regime's security or after a coup.

In a Totalitarian State however, Every day life is under such control that they can do without a Martial Law.

Because in their view "Normality" is when people get back to their usual behaviors. Given that those so called "Normal" social Behaviors are pre-defined and already present prior to a given Upheaval, usually after a heavy clampdown people have no other choice but to go back to the same imposed behaviors as defined by the State in order to avoid persecution.

The Fear and Terror they feel and the climate of suspicion and denunciation compensates largely for the lack  of a Martial Law because the entire Society already lives under a Police State.

The Shah's regime was an authoritarian State but Not a Totalitarian Tyranny like the IRI has been for the past 30 years.  

Thanks Mr.Kadivar

For a good blog which initiated a couple of knowledgeable comments which have saved us from yet another busybody kinda comment of mine! 

Never increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

Merci Nader Vanaki& Fatollah Jaans barayeh Tozih ...

I guess we will never know the exact truth in the absence of a true investigation. 

He may have indeed been an indirect victim of the Pakzazy that the former Imperial Regime wished to undertake by arresting former ministers or government officials in order to calm popular outrage against the Shah's regime and in particular Hoveyda's administration which was accused of all the ills of the nation at the time.

But then again we are all but guessing ... 

Only an accurate investigation can help solve this mystery ...

However 30 years later and after a Revolution that has entirely changed the judiciary system and probably eliminated old police archives, I am afraid it will be very difficult to establish the truth.  

Martial Law was never enforced!

They were Israeli soldiers in streets of Tehran and other cities who were hitting people with batons, using tear gas, shooting and killing people from roof tops, breaking car windshields, torturing and raping in Kahrizak.......

Those damn Israelis!

Are you insane and blind to pictures on the net? or you're plain and simple cheez khol?  

اقا داریوش من داستان رو یه جور دیگه خوندم

Martial Law

Martial law is unconstitutional under IRI's Constitution; so it is never declared.

But then again, so is torture, and we know THAT never happens there!

always thought he committed suicide ...

remember reading somewhere, think it's according to H. Haykal former Egyptian editor that, Lt. General Ali Mohammad Khademi committed suicide in his office, prior to his arrest or resisting arrest ordered by Martial law government! 

So you agree, martial law

So you agree, martial law was not declared.

Another difference: the military wasn't called out. In fact, the IRGC wasn't even activated: neither the order units or quick-response units. NAJA remained the primary law enforcement force. 

Had something like the Ashura riots taken place in America, US law enforcement are instructed to use lethal force. It's interesting, following the initial street unrest where a Basij base was set ablaze and there were casualties, NAJA was ordered to use less-lethal force to restore order on the streets.

Big differences.  

The martial law

was definitely in force, it was just undeclared.  The Shah put uniformed soldiers on the street, the mullahs put their army of plainclothes thugs on the streets with license to do whatever to whoever, and they did.  The Shah for all the dictator reputation he had, was too decent to do what the anti Iran mullahs did.  If he wasn't he would still be in power.

That is the real big difference between 2009 and 1979.  The determination of the unpopular government to cling to power at all costs.

You know, it's interesting:

You know, it's interesting: during all of the unrest following the 2009 election, not once was martial law declared. Even during and after the Ashura riots, martial law wasn't declared.

That was just one big difference between 2009 and 1978/79.