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Re: aryanium

Yes, we definitely need democracy and need to work toward it. But I so often see Iranians who are not tolerant or democratic as individuals toward others talk about democracy. Not everybody needs to be democratic to be able to live in a democracy but we need a significant number.

Re 2: samsam1111

I am quoting you "by denying the Iranian youth from knowing&learning about their
ancient heritage, they gave the floor to these kakamainy groups to
expand and poison the minds of innocent Azari youth who had no record
of their shared Iranian history and grabbed the 1st propaganda pan
turkist nationalistic that hit the airwaves."

You didn't mention the word "separatist" anywhere! Anyway, beside this, the modern Azerbaijani people who speak a Turkic langauge have FOUNDED and DEFENDED Iran (also along other Iranians) for the last 500 years. You can go even further, but the picture changes a bit because before the Safavid there was no seriously united state called IRAN for a very long time, up to the Arab invasion.

For Dear Ben

As
you mentioned it is hard, tough and some times ugly but do we have
any better option than democracy? up to now, Thats the best
recommendation and shortest road to a prosperous nation...

As far
as we do not have any better choices, we should learn and make our
version of democracy( the Iranian one) of course not a fake one hiding
a real monarchy but as you said the real one balanced and adjusted
with our nation's today capacity... it grows gradually. It starts from
every single of us in our own families to try not to be that dominant
we most often are.

Believe it or not the Islamic of Republic educated us a lot!

I called the seperatist groups PanTurkist

Read 1st before jumping 5 feet to comment.And Azaris haven,t defended Iran for only 500 years but for last 2700 years.by that remark you are insinuating that their origin goes back to only 500 years.I am not a Racist and am not belitling any mongol race but stating the fact.

Re: aryanium

I guess you were not talking to me :)

I doin't know the guy who wrote the blog, but I'm not juding him, nor Nr Nooriala.

Demoracy for a country like Iran would definitely bring a LOT of nastiness too. Believe me! That's also one of the reasons we do not have democracy. Democracy means ALSO to let some people want absolutely incredible or fantasy-like things. Democracy means all the bad and all the good in people. Do you believe that democracy is supposed to be beautiful? No, democracy means REALITY at play. It also depends on the sort of democracy you apply. Italy has one sort of democracy, USA has another. Democracy means that Mr Tabrizli is no less an Iranian than Mr Nooriala, and they disagree with each other. This is our firt taste of VIRUTAL democracy. Dirty? That represents us.

WHY?!

We are all Iranians... We all belong to one land , one old history and
a culture belong to all of us...why do you want less than it?!!!

Why some one might like to stress that much about Tork and Fars?!!!
Wthat is the different between them? Can you define me what so called
FARS?!!! Can you explain the criteria defining a nation and or a
state nation? are we living in the era of tribal territories?!!! I just
can not
understand that! they do it as if they are not Iranians but aliens
belong to other nations! See how this gentleman(Tabrizli) is so clearly
mad
because Nourala -based on the news report- was praising
people of Azarbayejan Providence for supporting our common national
heritage!

Based on Mr Tabrizli's analysis, I can conclude, I should never dare
to think
people of Azarbayejan would ever support or give a damn on what might
be considered
as Iranian heritage - something they assume it as so-called Shovinisme
Fars!!!

Let's
even assume Mr Nouriala was lying, Could that lie be such an insult to
the people of our Azarbayejan in accuse of supporting their
fatherland?!!! If so I also condemn Mr Nouriala's praise toward the
people of Azarbayejan however I find it more insulting toward
Azarbayejan with its magnificent individuals such as Sattâr Xan as one of our national heros at time of constitutional revolution... it seems poeple of 100 years ago had been much more open-minded than us!

I personally never heard of that fascist term been used or applied
in Iran but some irresponsible authors are labeling other
citizens of Iran as such race fascist! I ask you name reliable occasions some
one was oppressing specifically people of Azarbayejan under that racial
profile... It is totally baseless and just a dirty vehicle to divide us
but why? This land belongs to all of us.

You know like all of us that if there is an oppression in Iran, it
is equally for all of us in all Providences and there is no double
standards at least based on tribal or regional belongings... they do
not discriminate when they oppress us and you know it is true. I do
support all of us fightinf for democracy as Iranians united and together... this makes us strong.

The diversity we have is the second one after the USA which grants us
a huge potential to make progress - something the EU try to gain by
wiping of the borders and merging the countries; now the same time
considering that, we have some individuals( with all respect as our
homeboys) trying to separate us gradually by defining so-called
Federalism! or the right for education in their mother tongue!

I
personally understand that feeling and I think every one should have
the absolute right to pursue the advanced education in related regional language but honestly do you
think it is applicable to make the regional language in Iran as the
main language of instruction? Imagine in Mazandaran based on the same
reason it should be Tabari, then in Kordestan, Kordi and in Guilan,
Guilaki and perhaps in some part of Khuzestan Arabic... if those should
be the primary languages what would be the national language? do we
need to have translators among us? isn't it better to agree in one
common language and also consider the absolute right for same time
education of the regional languages based on the way every one love to
pursue? I am not prescribing a final solution for us but just bringing
up my own idea...

After over a century fighting for democracy, why do we have to waste
our time and energy for such pointless issues? wouldn't a secular
democracy -granting us even opportunity based on technocratic
eligibility, fulfill our ever dreams? if so, why do we ever need to
talk on us in tribal level?!!!

Do you honestly find any sincere and pure intention behind his (to me
insulting) respond to Nouriala?! Just take a look again at the title!
as if Nourala was insulting people of Azarbayejan as
Iranians! Take look at his weblog which is nothing but a distorted
picture of Iran and Iranians reflecting all hate through the eyes some
one who even doesn't seem to consider himself Iranian!

I would personally rather die in the dark era of a monarch brutal regime
oppressing me rather than see a day such hate mongers split my
fatherland.

Iran is a common property for all of us and you have a proportional share in every other providences as well as its A to Z treasure... Do not want less than that... I love to see you one day in a free Iran competing with all other elite Iranians to qualify solely based on your scientific eligibility and electibility to run our nation so do not want less than that and lets our children see that beautiful picture, soemthign our fathers over a cenutry ago dreamed by their Constitutional Revolution...

We are IRANIANS the only nation waiting for its thriving renaissance.

Let's not look we are eachother's enemy. We are IRANIANS

Re: samsam1111

Dear Iranian friend,

Please think a little bit before saying a few things! Those who had protested a couple of years ago were mostly normal people who were angered for some reasons, or they had for long been upset for some reasons and a relatively irrelevant cartoon sparked it all. Calling them pan-Turkist (which is meant to be an insult) is not a nice thing to say! There may have been some separatist elements among people, but they must have been very few.

Do you have anything against Tatrs or Mongols? Azeris look Indoeuropean indeed, but you by associating the word Turk with Tatars or Mongols trying to sanction a race, or just trying to prove a historic point? No one is denying Azerbaijan's hisotry and its relations to Iran, which are strong. But the realities of today are that the people of Azerbaijan speak a Turkic language and call themselves Turks. So, it would be appropriate from any true Iranian to respect ALL Iranians and their identity (what they call themselves) too.

I think when you refer to Azeris you shall say this "we are Azeris who have defended Iran's sovereignty for 500 years, who have fought for Iran." but you in case you prefer an insulting language you can reapt what you just mentioned "We are Azaris the great mongolide Tatars who burned and looted half the central Asia" But then again, I wish to ask you, do you have anything against Tatars, or maybe Mongols? Don't you like them? Do you think they are inferior? Is this what you loath the mullahs for, for not bwing racist enough?

One more interesting issue...

Don't people know that the Iranian government is a very capable organiser of various protests, for Ruze Qods (Jerusalem Day) or various occasions in which they protests against America, Israel etc????

This Arab regime started all these ethnic mumbo jumbo

by denying the Iranian youth from knowing&learning about their ancient heritage, they gave the floor to these kakamainy groups to expand and poison the minds of innocent Azari youth who had no record of their shared Iranian history and grabbed the 1st propaganda pan turkist nationalistic that hit the airwaves. It doesn,t matter to them that Babak is an Irani name , being Turkish means Mongolide/Tatar origin and yet they look indoeuropean ,there are over a few dozen Acheamenid&Sassanid remains of architectural sites all the way north up to Darband(an undamaged Sassanid fort dating to 420AD in south daghestan) with Old pahlavi inscriptions on it,literature from Azari history proving pahlavi speaking ancestory,,,,nah who cares! We are Azaris the great mongolide Tatars who burned and looted half the central Asia....If there is one Item that I would never forgive mullahs for is their treason on the subject of our Iranian heritage.Mullahs should be prosecuted one day fully for this treacherous act of subotaging our shared national identity so opportunists like these could grow.