Iranian of the Day

Re:Some people can't rest!

vildemose

Khanom, shoma moshkeletoon daghighan chieh?

Explain it clearly.

Yes, Bavafa. Some people

Yes, Bavafa. Some people need waterboarding. I'm glad we have so many basij symathizer who will have no qualms to do much more heinous acts than waterboarding.

 We have two situations, mutually exclusive: Mankind surviving, and mankind extinct. With respect to morality, the second situation is a null class. An extinct breed has NO behavior, moral or otherwise.

"Since survival is the sine qua non, I now define "moral behavior" as "behavior that tends toward survival." I won't argue with philosophers or theologians who choose to use the word "moral" to mean something else, but I do not think anyone can define "behavior that tends toward extinction" as being "moral" without stretching the word "moral" all out of shape.

We are now ready to observe the hierarchy of moral behavior from its lowest level to its highest.

The simplest form of moral behavior occurs when a man or other animal fights for his own survival. Do not belittle such behavior as being merely selfish. Of course it is selfish. . .but selfishness is the bedrock on which all moral behavior starts and it can be immoral only when it conflicts with a higher moral imperative. An animal so poor in spirit that he won't even fight on his own behalf is already an evolutionary dead end; the best he can do for his breed is to crawl off and die, and not pass on his defective genes.
"

Robert A. Heinlein

Balance between Best Trained & Identifiable and Traceable

If IRI had sent its best trained (if there are any) Qods forces,  they
would have been easier identifiable by security forces of these
countries and Western intelligence agencies and their databases (IRI does not know what information and inteligence the West has on its agents), more
importantly IRI can deny responsibility if these people are not part of
its special force and can't easily be traced back to IRI leadership, if caught. IRI
has done most of its terrorist acts and dirty work by paying Hezbolah and
not-so-well-trained paid groups in Iraq and other places so it can deny direct
involvement

It is good to know Cheney’s…

favorite interrogation tactic (i.e. waterboarding) has some fans on IC and being endorsed here.

Here is the challenge …

We all know act of violence often times gets reciprocated in kind, so this should hardly be any surprise nevertheless must be condemned with the strongest term.  And those who failed to condemn and speak against the terrorist act against the Iranian scientists, regardless of who was behind it, run the chance of being hypocrite if/when condemning this act. 

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

This is my challenge

This
is my challenge to everyone who does not think IRI was behind these
assassination attempts in Georgia, India and Thailand. Come up with
an alternative theory. Don't worry, you do not have to actually
present any proof. Just present your theory about who could have
theoretically been behind them and theoretically how they were
carried out. Let's see if the theory actually passes the laugh test. If you can not coe up with a theory then you must concede. This is a simple proof if I remember my logic correctly.

Some people can't rest!

Intellectual masturbators who reach an orgasmic peak of " egalitarianism" by being simply obnoxious. Hence defeating the whole purpose of their so called "struggle". Power by any other name would smell as "sweet"...It reminds me of puerile immmature attention seeker.

 A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

souri

I do not recall the officials of several countries directly accusing IRI in that case. Just because an Iranian is killed by someone who is not an IRI agent does not mean that Iran has not been assassinating Iranians abroad. 

Kujirasan Hezbollahis did not suddenly become smart & competent

30 years? Your math is not correct. Many of these terrors are far more recent. There is no evidence that the Hezbollahis have suddenly become smart and competent. Just look what they have done to our country. Is that a smart and competent leadership. Your reasons are:

1)North Korean martial art - If North Korean martial art made anybody smart and competent would North Koreans be in their current shape? 

2)Do you really think IRI is creating great technology? You actually believe Ahmadinejaad's lies about these things. They have been importing used Pakistani centrifuges and North Koreans missile plans. That is how advanced their technology is.

I am not being arrogant. I know I have a quite average intelligence. But I am a lot smarter than Basijis, Hezbollahi's and IRI supporters. As a matter of fact most Iranians are smarter than them.  

Also

When there was that student killed in Texas, just a few days after the terror of the Iranian Nuclear scientist, people screamed and made pages of comments to say that, this was an act of revenge by the IRI!!

A few days later, it became clear that it was not! That was only a personal affaire.

Some of the people here, love the conspiracy theories. Then they accuse others, of the same thing.

All I am saying is: Wait to have all the facts, before making the fatwas! Otherwise, you will sound exactly like your enemies, I'm afraid.

Being objective and Rational

These emotional outburst have no realistic or logical bases, the events that are referred to are 30 years ago, in that time Iran was in a chaotic situation and no direction, as well the government was arbitrary and its operative were peasants or village boys!

Since then Iran has engaged in massive training and education, The Iranian Qods forces are all trained in the CHOLIMA, That is the North Korean special forces and these were the ones that chased general Douglas MacArthur down the Korean peninsular, at that time the American troops were highly battle experienced from second world War. The heavy fighting that was done in Lebanon was led by the Qods forces as well suppressing Israeli’s battle ship's electronic counter measure and hitting it with locally manufactured missile, not to mention bringing down few drones as well,  it nice of you people to think that people are pure imbeciles, my be suffering from condescension and superiority complex has completely warpped and twisted your intelligence in regarding others as inferior.

The situation is exceptionally critical in Iran, and be unlikely they will alienate few countries that have been left to buy their oil or act as conduits for spare parts and machinery to prevent their industries from shutting down!  Their life line and regimes life line depends on these few countries.Use of cardboard should not give you an illusion that these are just demented morons, it is just an enactment,  as the religion does not allow for impersonation.

Having said that, the sooner this exceptionally nasty regime goes, the better for a suffering country and suffering people!  

why should this year be any different.

Again, from my point of view:

IRI is not at the position to provoke any country by resorting to such acts of terrorism, and they know it well, themselves.

They won't go too far in that line. At least, this is how it sounds to me, from a distance. Now, it might be some other facts and elements in the equation, which I might not know..
However it might really be ordered by the IRI. Or, it might also be an isolated act of revenge, by a group of Islamist extremist. What do I know?

Souri

I was under the impression that there is one standard for logic. If you have come up with an entirely new system of logic I think you should not deprive the rest of the world by keeping it to yourself. 

Also you obviously have the right to make your opinion known but then again so do I. 

Again please read my comments and Amir1973. IRI has a long history of carrying out terrorism in friendly countries. Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Argentina. 

Amir1973 is right

Add to that list Switzerland that has good relations with everyone and Austria which had the best relations with IRI but they assassinated people there too. The other question is why now? My answer is why not. Why the timing would make it different. IRI has been killing people at home and abroad every year. The real question is why should this year be any different.

Why do you get so nervous?

Ddph,

It doesn't sound logical to me! Is that  okay now?

I have the right to make my opinion known.

FYI, the protection of the Embassies is at the charge of the host country. Even if the targets were the Israeli diplomats, but this is always as bad for the country in which, this would happened.

Anyway, I leave it there for now. I want to see more evidances in the future, to make my own understanding of the event. You are free to accept whatever you want, right away. Don't fear. Nobody is holing you back. 

Those who are always ready to acquit the IRI no matter what

Will argue that the IRI wouldn't do it in relatively friendly countries, like Thailand, India or Georgia -- do they forget that the IRI had decent relations with Germany (during Mykonos and Farrokhzad), with France (during Bakhtiar), and with Argentina (during both the Israeli embassy bombing in 1992 and the Jewish community center bombing in 1994)?!?! I seem to recall that some people argued that the IRI could not possibly be involved in the alleged plot to kill the Saudi ambassador in Washington because the IRI wouldn't carry out attacks in the US and would only restrict itself to countries that it already had relations with rather than the US. Is the exact opposite argument now being made?

THe US and western

THe US and western countries need to have a database of all the basij and IRGC and Quodos force. I'm certain they can hack into their system or gather intelligence from block by block just by talking to neighbors. It can be easily done. These basiji thugs and IRGC butchers brag about being part of the oppression machinary of IRI.

...Why are they even allowed to travel outside of Iran?? 

 A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

souri

Just because you have not figured it out does not mean it is illogical. Here is the logic. They think they can do it and escape without getting caught. Secondly the targets were not the nationals of those countries but Israeli diplomats. IRI had good relations with Germany when they committed the Mikonos murders.

kujirasan are we talking about the same Hezbollahis?

Hezbollahis have a long history of being idiots and incompetents in everything including assassination abroad. As I said before on the occasions that they actually succeed in killing their targets they usually get caught. Read the details of Shahpoor Bakhtiar assassinations also Mikonos operations. The assassins were caught. But all the mistakes they made along the way showed how deeply ignorant and fundamentally dense they were. They could not even find their way in a train station and got on the wrong trains. As Anahid mentioned these are the same minds that came up with the cardboard Imam and those were their bosses.

Ecellent. Hope they confess

Excellent. Hope they confess names of more terrorists around Asia via waterboarding....

Why did they choose Argentian? They had good relationshi with Argentiana.

Thai government is one of US's strong allies. 

A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

That is also my question

I wonder why would Iranian government choose to put bombs in the countries which are among the rare ones having a good relation with Iran?

I need to wait and learn more about this bombing affaires. It doesn't sound logical, at all.

I know the IRI is capable of doing some acts of terrorism. They did it in the past. But why would they do it now? and why in those friend countries?

Kerfuffle In Bangkok

I guess I can comment a bit better on the events, as few years back I worked in Bangkok for a Japanese company, and was nick named Iranian Ambassador, and my house The Embassy, at that time Malaysia had expelled large number of Iranian and not willing to return to their country, they had headed for Bangkok, and lot them had run out of money and were living in appalling condition and in cardboard boxes, I step in and opened my house, and organized assistance, through them I got to know the Iranian networks and governmet agents and operatives, as well I was invited to meet the real Ambassador, which turned down, and I assure all of you 90% of these people detested the Iranian Government and had nothing to do with violence, against any one or any country, they were just educated and humble people trying to earn a living and send money to family back home, On the other hand, Iran at that time  imported 90% of rice for domastic consuption from Thailand, and considerable other products of Western manufacture, turbines, machinery etc, it be highly unlikely that Iran would chose to engage in any act that would harm its relation with few countries that have not tagged along with USA led sanctions. On the other side these people seem to be poorly trained and exceptionally amateur, the Iran trained saboteurs/terrorist/Qods/ etc are highly trained and totally professional, and would know how to handle a lousy grenade! Iran has been paid in gold by India, for oil, be sheer lunacy to cause any problem there as well, given the current sanction situation. However, this is a nasty and pernicious regime, and equating it with Iranian people is simply vile crime against dignity of Iran and Iranian people! have respect, please.

This guy looks and smells as if he just got out of the Basiji...

terrorist training center in Hozyeh Elmiyeh Qom!

He has all the signatures of a blow-himself-up, shahid-wannabe, and sweeping-land-mine two-legged Olagh.

Given his single-digit IQ nature, he will confess to the authorities in a blink of an eye!

As they say, terrorists Shakh-o-Dome Nadareh!

thank you

for your understanding. I am released now. That was a very uncomforatble misunderstanding. :)

Guilty

His picture says it all a bonified brainwashed hezbolahi.

IranFirst

Great quotation by Michael Barkun. Conspiracy theory is not unique to any nationality, or left or right political gravitation. I see them in all areas. Its proponents can sometimes be intelligent in other areas of life. But there is a willful ignorance in certain areas that they can never be reasoned out of. I have spent hours arguing with friends who were 9/11 Truthers or Obama Birthers. It is really disapointing. 

double post

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Souri Khaanoom

Thank you for the clarification. No need for apologies though. I just wanted to make sure that I hadn’t said anything untoward.

Well said DDPH, Conspiracy Theorists

All the facts will come out in the courts, but there is more than enough evidence to bring charges and connect these people to IRI and invetigate their links and start getting convictions for them and IRI. There are differences betwenn people examining the facts and conspiracy theorists

Michael Barkun :
Conspiracy theory is a belief which explains an event as the result of a
secret plot by exceptionally powerful and cunning conspirators to
achieve a malevolent end. According to Barkun, the appeal of conspiracism
is threefold: First, conspiracy theories claim to explain what
institutional analysis cannot. They appear to make sense out of a world
that is otherwise confusing. Second, they do so in an appealingly simple
way, by dividing the world sharply between the forces of light and the
forces of darkness. They trace all evil back to a single source, the
conspirators and their agents. Third, conspiracy theories are often
presented as special, secret knowledge unknown or unappreciated by
others. For conspiracy theorists, the masses are a brainwashed herd,
while the conspiracy theorists in the know can congratulate themselves
on penetrating the plotters' deceptions.

Guess who are the "forces of darkness" in most conspiracy theorists minds. US and West in general. So anything that proves otherwise is not acceptable to them, despite facts.

Toefehaye Enghelab

We'll see more of these "shirin-karis" from bassigies sent to various parts of the world in the near future. stand-by!! That dark mark on Moslehi's forehead cracks me up every time.

No reality-Bites

I am very sorry. What is funny, is that I didn't pay attention the name (user) who was talking to me. I thought I was having a conversation with the same person. This is a bad habit of me , I admit, that I usually don't pay attention to the name of the commentator, before reading their comment. Some of the avatars are more familiar, maybe because they are unique. But some others, look like each other. This was my mistake to take you for rtayebi1 ( he/she is decent, too).

Sorry, my bad. For some reason, I am a bit distracted, since a while.