MEK vs USA vs IRI vs Iranian People

The Sad Truth


MEK vs USA vs IRI vs Iranian People
by bahmani

Nothing more than the Nukes has gotten the ire of so many up so far up our asses of feigned concern, than the MEK issue.

Here's the primer:

Almost immediately after the revolution the MEK began to object to the IRI, leading to several important assassinations, and numerous other shall we say inconclusively mysterious acts of violence.

The MEK is what you would call an Islamic Marxist organization. That is not what they would call it, but it is what you would, once you understand what they want.

The problem is that the IRI is already an Islamic Marxist state and whenever power is involved, arguing over nuanced interpretations gets heated quickly.

Quickly after, the MEK became disillusioned in the promises of the IRI, and declared war on it. In the middle of an actual border war! During the Iran-Iraq war the MEK made, what will most surely go down as the worst strategic error in the history of freedom fighting movements. They joined Saddam's forces and fought alongside the Iraqi army against Iran!

Voy! Talk about a social faux-pas!

What seemed like an innocent "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" tactic, soon turned into a backlash of anti MEK sentiment, and the definitive example of Iranian traitorship.

Today, if you can afford a first and only edition printed Yarshater Iranica, and looked up the term "Traitor" in it, you will find: "See - Masoud Rajavi", then when you look that up, you will find "See - Maryam Rajavi" and when you finally locate that, it will say "Mojaheddin-e-Khalgh" and there won't be any other details or explanation.

My satirical point is that this is how entrenched the MEK are in our collective minds, as simple traitors. No further explanation is ever needed.

Except that it is needed.

Somehow the MEK ended up not on the list of "Freedom fighter groups with bad decision-making tendencies" but on the US list of "Terrorist Groups". How this happened is not important, because there are lots of unexplained phenomena I would like to know about, and we'll be here all day. But they did.

After the Iran-Iraq war, the MEK were given a patch of land in Iraq, to park their tanks, cannons, and other assorted heavy armor, and now kids and families in. A place innocently enough called "Camp Ashraf". During the next years the MEK put aside their swords and picked up "hammers and sickles", along with lots of concrete, and built Ashraf into an Ashram of sorts. A home away from home until they could figure out how the hell to get back home again.

Now years later, with Saddam gone, with the US gone, and the support for the MEK all but evaporated, with Iran's colonial influence on Iraq like a nervous teenage Brother and Sister who have been exploring "feelings" that they probably shouldn't have been exploring, and feeling the heat from Iran's loins convecting in their direction, the MEK have begun to try and get out of Ashraf.

But they cannot go anywhere as long as they are designated as terrorists and are on the US list.

Hence the campaign to get themselves off it. Where they want to go after, is anybody's guess, but Fairfax County in Virginia just outside of Washington DC seems like a good a place as any.

Except that is NIAC territory.

NIAC has been adamantly against de-listing the MEK from day one. So adamant, they can't think of anything else. Forget protecting us from the "Shah's of Sunset", when there are hairless 70 year-old MEK with limps, bad hips, and worn out prostates lurking about.

For yes, these funky smelling octogenarian MEK and their funkier ideas (and worse strategic thinking) are "the real threat and danger". I mean if the MEK are de-listed, Oh! who knows what could happen! Lord knows we can't have any Iranians running around free.

Meanwhile, Ahmadinejad has since recanted his previous statement and said, "No, no, no, what I meant to say is that there USED to be Gays in Iran. But now with "Shah's of Sunset", there are no more Gays in Iran, they are too embarrassed by Reza Farahan."

So de-listing the MEK is all the talk in DC these days. The MEK true to form, ever the bad planning and strategy organization that they are doomed to be, have somehow once again managed to come up with the brilliant plan, namely, the opposite thing they should do, as their way out of the mess they created for themselves doing the mistaken opposite thing they did the last time!

During the most liberal administration in history, that put down the fascist tendencies of Bush II neo-conism, the MEK have recruited not a who's-who, but a how?-what? of retired failed neo-cons as their way out of this mess. Cartoons like Giuliani, Tom Ridge and the international posterchild of buffoonery, "YeeeeHaaaw!" himself, Howard Dean. They have hotel-room event after event, filled with what is left of the retirement community of MEK standing and cheering and clapping for the obvious congratulatory moments of the speeches by these for-hire devotees of the deus (is that where the word dayoos comes from?) dollar.

These giants of political failure are really cute, in their suits, with their lily-soft freshly sanitized hands, pounding the podiums with punditry from the past, always thinking in their fast failing minds, they are honest to god, helping the actual Iranian resistance movement. It is precious!

Meanwhile the MEK audience stands and thirstily ovates each ending rhetorical podium pound. With no less than 3 cameras, shooting the entire event, for some mysterious post production to be aired somehow, somewhere, someday.

Meanwhile NIAC is running SuperPac-worthy YouTube videos on the impending doom of even thinking about MEK de-listing. Honestly, I thought it was an ad for "Call of Duty 8: Modern Warfare".

The Sad Truth.

The sad truth is none of this will work. Neither will the MEK get off the list, nor will NIAC be successful is doing whatever sick and twisted thing NIAC seems to want to do to the MEK.

Because what the MEK need to do, even though they can't, is to "Go Home". By "Go Home" I mean atone for and be re-accepted and forgiven by Iranians, for their biggest mistake of a lifetime.

For until that happens, nothing, not even the might of the Neo-con gods will help free you from the prison you locked yourself into.

One strategy that is extreme and might work, is to simply pack everyone up from Camp Ashraf, and start walking. Where to? doesn't matter. Maybe if everyone sees the MEK on a "Trail of Tears" they can put aside pride and insult, and treat this like the fellow-Iranian humanitarian disaster it has now become.

Don't get me wrong. I am no supporter of the MEK way. I think any syndrome that can produce this level of ridiculous notion, and worst strategic error in our history, has some serious flaws and hilarity potential. And don't even get me started on the Masoud-Maryam line of succession jokes.

But this is not about an actual political organization, or the slightest political option for us to even consider now. This is now about fellow Iranians. Granted, not the brightest and most capable. But they certainly do not deserve this limbo.

Bring them into the light, were we can all shine our reason and scrutiny onto them. And let them "Come Home" and then go open up bad Persian food restaurants, 12 cent per-copy copy-shops, and used car dealerships specializing in Mercedes repo-lease returns, in Tyson's Corner, like everyone else.

Really, who are we to judge?


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Shazde Asdola Mirza

زنده باد سازمان سیا ... مرگ بر جمهوری اسلامی

Shazde Asdola Mirza

Thanks for the reminder!

long live Iran

Forgiving has some conditions.

by long live Iran on

You forgive the person who regrets what s/he has done in past and trys to compensate. Do you see any sign of remors in this sect? Are you serious? They are still killing people, betraying their own country and licking boots of Mosad and CIA members as they did for Sadam and you are joking about forgiving them. 

It is obvious that you are not supporting them! 

long live Iran

MEK collaborated with CIA & Mosad & Saddam vs Iranian

by long live Iran on

Mr Bahmani I have a better title for your text.

 MEK collaborated with CIA, Mosad, Saddam against Iranian and its slaves.

IRI vs Iranian.

Long Live IRAN for Ever. 

long live Iran

MEK or MKO Who served Sadam against their country!!

by long live Iran on

long live Iran

More evidences for MEK service to Sadam!

by long live Iran on

long live Iran

How could you justify their action?

by long live Iran on

How could you talk about these Rajavi`s dictatorship and justify their action?

How could you justify the forced devorces and separation of children from their parents which happened there?

just watch this and if you can ignore your Consciousness, talk again or sorry lie again.

Long Live Iran for EVER for Iranian people not for IRI or MEK. 

long live Iran

Is it the lie for Farvadrin the13th! I really laughed!

by long live Iran on




Mr Bahmani, Instead
of writing such a lengthy piece of text to cover all mistakes and betrayal of
this sect, just open your eyes to all the evidences that how MEK and Rajavi`s slaves are serving Sadam, Mosad, CIA and even Pakistani intelligent service to kill
their own countrymen.

I do not know how could you dare to even
try to deceive us against all these facts and news! Sorry we are not fools!

To Rajavi`s slaves: Get back your freedom
of thinking and do not let Rajavi and Maryam use you to get to the power.

Evidances: We have not forgotten the love kisses between Rajavi and Sadam ;)









Long Live IRAN for EVER.



Bahmani jan, I Iaughed a lot.......BUT.

by ShirOjan on

at your satirical depictions of the MEK cult leaders, members and neo-con shills on-the-take and of course I despise any and all traitors that side with the foreigners against defense of Iran zameen.

But since in a rational dialogue with their assorted leaders pre and post 1979 they never made any sense to me or any critical thinking person, very early on I concluded that they were terribly brain washed by Masoud and HIS foreign handlers.


Our assessment of 1979 was later corroborated by some of their high ranking but disillusioned defectors. One said among many other things that Masoud's library has 90% books on psychology and only 5% political.

I have seen and talked to their members in Europe who managed to escape their camps in Iraq asking us to help them to rescue their wives and children.... very very sad stories.

Therefore, they are a cult like Jim Jones cult in New Guiana who killed a visiting US congressman and then on the order of Jim Jones  did mass suicide of the entire cult of 1000.

While Maryam khanoom buys her support in the European parliaments and now here in U.S., the ordinary members are brain washed to kill and be killed for a fuzzy ideology that they are not even able to articulate.

First and foremost they need to be deprogrammed as primary condition of joining ANY society.

Then of course we have those so-called  "sympaths" of this cult outside of them even in Iran that simply cannot  see through its cult propaganda and think very superficially and not critically.

Those who have come to their senses and realized they have been screwed with in  their minds are in a large group and organization  trying to help the other zombifide members and most have already gone back to Iran with the IRI's blessings.


The bottom line: Without deprogramming of the rank and file  they are a real danger to themselves and others Inside and outside of Iran. Period!

G. Rahmanian

Mr. Bahmani:

by G. Rahmanian on

Your blog is causing outrage among IR mercenaries of all shades and colors. Poor things!


MEK will not be MEK without marxist cultish ideology


Those who like and defend MEK are attracted to the cultish ideology. Being obidient to the almighty maryam, sharing your wet dreams to your ranking MEK officer on a daily basis, even burning yourself for the cause ( // ). Only a sick twisted and depsparate individual would find such a group appealing.



If the context were different, the article would make sense

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

However it misses key pieces of Info, and so BAHMANI I give it a 3/10 for effort. 

It reminds me of those talking about the late shah, with copies of newly opened secret archives and making serious conclusions which are completely BS storywise, all because a few key pieces of data are not even discussed ie not even mentioned.  examples not in books include, the shah being killed by the usa using cancer that is not part of his genetics and hence had his life reduced significantly more than Ashrafs.  Journalists need to address this so that important info is available to the consensus, this will makes it very hard for some to nowkar their way poltically at irans expense. BAHMANI You're talkng of the MeK as if they are not at all comparable to Khomeini  and the IRI, get real at this stage it's a non starter for good reason, you are arguing the wrong case, if you wish for a democratic society at some point in time in Irans future.

Suggestion for Bahmani:

For now focus your efforts on a cause infinitly more easy to gain support for, because it has both emotional and logical foundations, which is reminding people how wise it would have been and how much better the future of iran would have been, had the revolution not been drummed up and had people focussed on supporting Rastakhiz to gradually build confidence in one another based on loyalty to Iran first.

G. Rahmanian

MEK's Role In The Revolution!

by G. Rahmanian on

The role MEK played in mobilizing the masses before the revolution is open to debate. However, before the revolution, organizations such as MEK and Fadaian had vey little support among Iranians because they were basically unknown. It was after the revolution and because of their opposition to the rule of the Mullahs that they became very popular.

Fadaian lost most of their support base after the split and Aksariat's following the Tudeh Party in their policy of appeasement toward the regime.

As for MEK's armed struggle against the regime, it is worth noting that for two years--until 1981--MEK did not commit any known "terrorist" acts against the regime.

By the start of the war, however, hundreds of MEK's members had been killed by IR goons and thousands were in its prisons. Most of them were eventually massacred by the regime.


Esfand jaan: gol gofti....

by Bavafa on

This is not the first time we hear this type of non-sense and I suspect it won't be the last time.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 


G. Rahmanian

Here's a glaring example!

by G. Rahmanian on

"Monarchists on tis site are torturers & interrogators in waiting
by Zendanian on Fri Apr 06, 2012 01:20 PM PDT"

I just saw this. It supports my comment below.

The above claim concerns all Monarchists on this site, by the way.

G. Rahmanian


by G. Rahmanian on

That same thing is said about every individual or group that opposes the regime. Yes, anyone who has committed crimes against Iranians must stand trial if and when there is regime change.

Who will face criminal charges will be determined by courts and not based on individuals' emotional reactions to history on this site.

There are people who lie about every little detail of Iran's history of post-'79 and make false accusations against those who disagree with them. Such lies or false accusations will hopefully not have any impact on the decisions made by the courts of law.


The Issue with Mek is they are foreign Funded/supported

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Hence they are Openly not serving Irans Interests, just like the IRI which the west loves for Iran.

That they have NEVER been supported by any real base within Iran, that their base was created at first with UK $ to bring in poor families/children in and then to brainwash them to be killers against all Iranians and this happened in the 1970's. Is what is significant.  The commies in Iran, at least developed real grass roots support, after the russians occupied Iran, though like the mek were always in foreign hands ad their attacks were like the mek co-ordinated and even stopped, all based on foreign interests.

That the MeK has been the most serious opposition group to IRI is because the West supports them to keep the IRI in check and also supported them $ against the late shah to cause his govt problems.  So the issue which you do not mention at all Bahmani is that it is the west that has such serious agendas and interests for Iran, and that the mek is their best funded group.  That is the only reason they are significant.  

In contrast look at monarchists within Iran, infact scratch that, look at monarchists, just within the clergy/mollahs in Iran and you will know who is the most significant opposition to IRI which has the biggest grass roots support.  You will also note that in contrast to getting millions in $ support like the mek does, monarchists higher up are shut up by western governments, in order to not have a real positive & signifcant opposition to IRI on the behalf of the west who love extremism for Iran, like the IRI and Mek because the west knows it can stiffle the development of Ira, which they don't wish for.

BAHMANI instead of bringing in MEK, My Solution, Lets talk up Rastakhiz and at least help people understand why it would have been far better than the path we have been on for 33 years.  That will very be easy to do.  //


Esfand Aashena

بهمنی چرا چرت و پرت میگی‌؟

Esfand Aashena

1. Iranians for the most part who follow the news have forgiven individual members and will have no problem forgiving them again if it is needed.  They know how individual members are treated.

You article mentions nothing about the Red Cross reports of atrocities committed by MEK leaders inside Camp Ashraf and imprisoning members against their will.

Read a little from Mr. Khodabandeh to get some inside information.  You don't want inside information?  get outside information reports from Red Cross and UN about their treatment by their leaders.

As far as leaders like Rajavi I could care less what happens to him.  He could have the same fate as Qaddafi.  To me he is a dead man walking.  Maryam is hob nobbing with people in Paris and Washington, so she's ok and not to be worried about.

2. De-listing has nothing to do with MEK members going outside Iraq and finding refuge somewhere.  They could be delisted today and have the same exact problems.  You can first start (not you, because you're writing poetry ;-) by allowing MEK citizens of Canada and European countries go to their countries of birth.

MEK's saga is a sad saga and a human tragedy but the de-listing push is bull crap!  Tying individual MEK's fate to de-listing is mule crap!  Their organization should remain on the terrorist list but their individual members can move on, however they can with or without denouncing their organization.

They are already refugees in Iraq in Camp Liberty.  Camp Ashraf will soon be closed for good, if not closed already. 

Everything is sacred


MEK I vs English Speaking Iranian

by jmyt17 on

What is point?When all of you setting in your bedroom and drinking tea Persian tea or Coffee aor whatever.,My friend and my family lost their life for all of your freedom, to  coming out and start taking in English.very good. at least all of you learn English. good for all about people lost their life for your freedom to speak  English?????Just shut your mouse and think when you opening your mouth.


Anonymous Observer

Well, GR jaan

by Anonymous Observer on

According to the IC. peanut gallery, I'm not only a MEK suppporter, but I am also all of the following: 1) a Zionist; 2) a neocon; 3) an IR agent (WTF?!!) and the most serious offense of all: 4) I am "anti-poetry."

hamsade ghadimi

shazdeh jan, i have a

by hamsade ghadimi on

shazdeh jan, i have a suspicion that the u.s. knows who the m.e.k. and niac are.  politics make strange bedfellows.

hamsade ghadimi

rahmanian, it's true that

by hamsade ghadimi on

rahmanian, it's true that the appointed members of the government don't have as much knowledge, and in some cases as much power, as the career high-level government workers. and it's also much more complicated when there are overlaps in authorities of different departments and branches of government (e.g., state, defense, cia).  however, the administration still sways much power. in the case of the obama administration which retained petraues (military) and gates (cia) from the bush administration (who did not see eye to eye with the previous administration), they have been very effective in their foreign policy in teaming up an appointed member of the government (hillary) with like-minded (as close as you can get) counterparts.

Shazde Asdola Mirza

NIAC: play nice with IRI ... play dirty with MEK

by Shazde Asdola Mirza on

People play nice with those who are their friends, pay their bills or support them. Is that true about NIAC too?

Rahmanian dear: you are right, as so many NIAC supporters on this very site used to lead attacks on the Green Movement, when it was about to overthrow the IRI monsters.

Hamsade jan: good to see you back. You are right about NIAC's irrelevance among Iranians. But please note that those creatures sway a disproportionate influence among the US lobbies regarding IRI. Why? Why?

G. Rahmanian

Dear HG: Long time, no see!

by G. Rahmanian on

I don't know if you saw Bill Clinton's interview with Fox around the time he left the White House. It was the only time I saw him so angry. He was complaining about the State Department's reluctance to allow him to take care of Taliban.

You know well, that all the major and minor decisions are made by the regular State Department think tank. Hillary Clinton or President Obama are informed after decisions on major issues have already been made. The cabinet members are only there to entertain the American public and act as messengers when dealing with the world leaders.

hamsade ghadimi

the real "sad truth" is

by hamsade ghadimi on

the real "sad truth" is shazdeh's comment. 

bahmani, you fail to mention hillary clinton in your list of "failed retired neo-cons" as the main thrust in delisting m.e.k from the terror list (you must've missed the state department's tv ads on delisting m.e.k.).  and living in d.c., i know that neither m.e.k. nor iri's lobby group, niac, are the talk of town (not in the iranian community, not in the general population, not among the political pundits, not in the media).  it may be the talk of town on thanks to people like you.:)


The elephant in the room

by Reality-Bites on

We are left constantly squabbling about:

- on one side a totally discredited organization that started off committing terrorist acts to oppose the Pahlavi regime, supposedly in the name of freedom, and then helped bring the Khomeini's Islamic Republic to power, before falling out with it (after admittedly thoroughly savage repression by the Imam and his goons) and betraying Iran by siding with blood-thirsty Saddam, namely the MEK,


- on the other side, an ideologically vague, self-proclaimed representative group that considers itself a lobby for the interests of Iranians in America, that instead of truly standing up for the welfare of Iranians seems more interested in making bosom buddies out of the US of A and the callous regime of the Mullahs and gets incomprehensibly shy when it comes to taking the Islamic Republic to task over its colossal acts of savagery and brutal repression, of the very Iranian people whose interests this organizations claims to work for, namely NIAC.

So, we are reduced to forever harping on about these two groups because the one thing that no one really is talking about is that elephant in the room. In other words the lack a truly progressive, effective and viable Iranian group/organization/political party (call it what you will) led by an astute, highly capable and (hopefully) charismatic leadership that has a coherent strategy to bring the Iranian people together to oppose the tyranny that is the Islamic Republic.

Tragically for Iranians hoping for light at the end of the of the dark tunnel of the Islamic Republic, such an entity simply does not exist. None, zilch, nado and there hasn't been one for over 30 years. Partly because the IR has decimated nearly all potentially capable opposition figures inside and outside Iran and because, well, because most of us Iranians are far better at sitting on our backsides and moaning about things than rolling up our sleeves, becoming genuinely united and usefully active.

In the mean time we waste our time whining about the irrelevant MEK and the NIAC etc...... 

G. Rahmanian

Shazde Jaan:

by G. Rahmanian on

Very well put. NIAC's enmity towards Iranians seems to know no limits!



by Joubin on

The fact remains that a "hooker" is at worst ultimately betraying his or her own self, but an MEK member is betraying his or her own nation.

Think Clearly, Speak Straight, and Act Decisively.  Only then will you be an Iranian.

Shazde Asdola Mirza

Why NIAC pampers IRI, but attacks MEK?

by Shazde Asdola Mirza on

Considering that the United States of America (where NIAC is a lobby group) considers both IRI and MEK to be "terrorist" entities ... why NIAC pampers IRI, but attacks MEK? If they are truely against "terror", shouldn't they at least treat IRI and MEK equally bad?

Einstein has said that any good theory should be as simple as possible, but not any simpler. Going with that, can we theorize that:

NIAC likes IRI and hates MEK?

But why?


Tell me about it

by gorgahoo on


Tell me about it

by gorgahoo on

Of Hookers and Mojahedin