Ormazd Parsi's compilation of statements and interviews by Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi since the last presidential election:
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What are talking about
by Tokyoarea on Fri Mar 04, 2011 09:39 PM PSTteh true is come up now day by day , it is not Tafreghe , BALATARIN is not a fact ! and it is ot the way of true, they are what i said remmber that, Green movment is Bullshit... they are supporting the same regim, and they both scare of third option, you know that and lets ppl know that as well, sooner or later
mr. Tokyoarea
by IranMarzban on Fri Mar 04, 2011 09:32 PM PSTyou lost your touch with realty most of iranians in iran DO NOT supports karoubi or mousavi in the way you think just visit the websites like BALATARIN and there you can see people want change mousavi and karoubi are just BAHANE marg bar asle velayate fagih this is the motto NOBODY wants to go back to khomeni's golden age. green is now for unity so stop the TAFRAGHEANDAZI
DM جان جان، بالاخره چی شد؟
BavafaFri Mar 04, 2011 09:33 PM PST
Am I entitled to my opinion or not?
Because your
"1-" says otherwise
And for your
2- we may not need to worry much because they may "officially" well be on the path of mistakenly eating 'vajebi' while they though they were drinking milkshake or 'doogh' (not that I have had vajbi to know what it tast like)
And for
3- some how I am not surprised by your "still disagreement"
So, shall I just say
خر ما از کّرای دمب نداشت
Mehrdad
Not missed at all...
by Daadaash on Fri Mar 04, 2011 09:30 PM PSTThey are not missed, these two guys are from the same clan, same garbage. It's just a power struggle among mullahs, they all want to be in charge. Noen of thes guys care about Iran or its people.
Doctor mohandes
by Parham on Fri Mar 04, 2011 09:25 PM PSTIf you're really doctor mohandes, I'll go celebrate. : )
But seriously, glad it's the case.
So when was it that I wasn't right on the money? ; )
Both are the Same Green and RED!
by Tokyoarea on Fri Mar 04, 2011 09:18 PM PSTI was expecting from last 2 years,, ppl realized that the Green Movment is Bullshit,,, They are both the same, even now they said Golden times! how come was golden times.... you know why cuz they was on Power( Rafsanj,,& Musav,,), I disagreed the golden, it was darkness, ppl young was killed/hold for years, just because they have some newspaper from political parties in Iran, they must keep those young alive,, if they are insists Islam, among them was many to give the chance to be a good and better person( even tough they was) for human and our country, our ppl should think more to get out of these mess,, Both side create a Game( Bazi ye ZARGARI !) to bring as much as anti gov to street and open their vote and mouth, what they think now the next is to investigate whom was anti-regime true the Green movement! 100% Disagreed with GREEN--> yellow** they are more danger than what they point ( such as Ahmadi nejat) etc, I do agreed two ways either we should be support the regium party or we have to think the third option not Green, movement by musavi or karubi or else.. HA HA history will show TABL TOU KHALI sorry for ppl die for nothings ( green Movements).
Parham
by Doctor mohandes on Fri Mar 04, 2011 09:11 PM PSTYou are so right on the money tonight.
I agree with every single comment you have made so far.
Bavaffa jan
by Doctor mohandes on Fri Mar 04, 2011 09:09 PM PSTWell of course you are entitle to your Opinion.
However;
1- You need to quit using "people came out because they called upon them to do so" that is getting old there pal, Let's come up with something new.
2- They have not been "officially" elevated to anything. This whole idea of them being leaders is only some illusion that poor people HAVE TO and outta sheer desparation have adopted. People who come out shout "azadi azadi" and use them as an excuse to get out there and shout more for azadi. Let 's not get any ideas here now.
3- i still disagree my man. that is so unfair to those who do not come out to the street, To respond to the calls that they make. that is just not right. As Individuals i support the cause of having them released, By i will not denigrate and devalue these heroic efforts that people undertake, by necessarily predicating them upon what goes on in the minds of these individuals.
That is all she wrote!
Mammad
by Parham on Fri Mar 04, 2011 08:42 PM PSTFor the time being, they both want the continuation of the Islamic Republic. Not democracy.
As for the executions, Mousavi still recalls the period as "the golden era of the Imam."
Not my saying. Their saying.
DM: bro
by Bavafa on Fri Mar 04, 2011 08:48 PM PST"So Please stop generalizing and saying that by withdrawing our support for them, we are doing Oppressed iranians a disservice"
It is true that there are many Iranians inside and outside Iran who are oppressed by IRI and do not follow these two, but hardly any of them came out in protest against IRI during the last two years. Vastly, I mean very vastly they have been under the banner of green and these two have some how have been elevated to the leadership role of the green So, whether we like it or not (I don't) folks in Iran are coming out and facing the thugs on the streets following the name and banner of these two. And yes, turning our backs to them, in my opinion, is to withdraw our support for the Iranians who are coming out on the streets and facing the regime thugs.
Mehrdad
Imtheking
by Parham on Fri Mar 04, 2011 08:39 PM PSTمیذارم ملت تصمیم بگیرن٬
روزی که شماها معنی دمکراسی، و اصولاً حکومت مردم رو فهمیدین، روز خوبیه
ما رفتیم٬٬
پرهام،
ImtheKingFri Mar 04, 2011 08:13 PM PST
یک سوال: فرض کنیم رژیم عوض شد، و شما مثل خمینی اول انقلاب شدی رهبر. نمیگم اینطوری میشه، میگم فرض کنیم.اگر موسوی و کروبی رو تو زندان گرفتی، باهاشون چی کار میکنی؟
۱_ مثل خمینی با ژنرالهای شاه و هویدا و بقیه سابقه دارهای رژیم قبل، تیرباروننشون میکنی؟
۲_ میفرستیشون دادگاه، قضاوت شند؟ خیلی ها که تو ایران طرفدار اینها هستند و خود همین هموطن که اینجا نوشته دلش براشون تنگ شده، رو چی کار میکنی؟ قاضی رو کی انتخاب میکنی؟ خلاصه لطف کن بگو روح الله پرهام چیکار میکنه اونموقع؟
Patriot
by Doctor mohandes on Fri Mar 04, 2011 08:06 PM PSTIt is not a question of getting ahead of them. It is about the Final outcome. What is the point of all this protesting? Supposed Mousavi and karoubi are out of jail tomorrow , Then what? more protests and more calls for arrests and more calls for having them hanged? more stumping and jumping up and down on the tables in Majlis asking for them to be executed???
Going back and recalling what happened during that election is Fine but does not solve anything. There are still those who are proud that they never took part in that election or any other ones.
Not all iranians are vested in this By any stretch of imagination. I will never ever accept that as a fact.
We can follow their lead or they can follow our lead!! But enough is enough and all this wait. be patient buisness. kheili bebakhsheeda... Is nothing more than Puszyfooting and dancing around the main issue. Bottom Line!
have a good one buddy.
Ordangi
by Tavana on Fri Mar 04, 2011 07:58 PM PSTآخر عقل هم خوب چیزی است. مگر جوانها در مملکت همه مرده اندکه یک مشت لب بگور مثل خامنه ای و حالا هم این دو زواردررفته بخواهند رهبرشان باشند؟؟؟ با یک اردنگی محکم باید همه را بکنار امام راحلشان روانه کرد. جوان بر خیز واز دلتنگی با زدن یک اردنگی به اینهمه فریب و نیرنگی بیرون آی و حکومت مردگان را به گورستان روانه کن.
Thank you Shifteh Khaanoum
by Mammad on Fri Mar 04, 2011 07:55 PM PSTfor your excellent commentary. Yes, it would have been much easier for the two old men and their wives to quietly go away. It would have been much much easier for Mir Hossein and Dr. Rahnavard to not come forward at all after 20 years away from politics and continue their quiet lives and tend to their garden in their small, old and modest home. But, as Mir Hossein said, he came forward because he felt Iran was in great danger. He promised people that would stand by his principles, and he did. Similarly, for that courageous and honest sheikh, Karroubi.
And, for those who repeat the old worn out cliche about Mousavi and his involvement in the executions of 1988, I suggest to read
//www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbure...
and think. That is, of course, if they are willing to, and are capable of thinking.
Without Mousavi and Karroubi, the democratic movement would not have been anywhere even remotely near where it is now.
Mammad
Imtheking
by Parham on Fri Mar 04, 2011 07:54 PM PSTچرا، اونا هم ایرونی هستند، منتهی ایرونی سابقه دار!٬
Patriot
There still isn't a winner out of all this you know? So far people have been killed, people have been imprisoned, people have been tortured, and it looks like the bad guys will prevail again, since they have the upper hand in the force they can use. Don't forget that.
پرهام،
ImtheKingFri Mar 04, 2011 07:48 PM PST
اونایی که شما بهشون میگین دلقک و الان تو زندانند ایرونی نیستند؟ در هر صورت، امیدوارم که، ملت ایران از پس این شیطونکا براند. مردم الان به دنبال این هستند که رژیم رو تغیر بدهند ومن به این مساله شکی ندارم که به نتیجشش هم میرسند.
نمیرد آنکس که دلش زنده شد به عشق / ثبت است بر جریده عالم دوام ما
Doctor Mohandes
by Patriot on Fri Mar 04, 2011 07:40 PM PSTMy point is that we cannot get ahead of the people on the streets of Iran, people who are risking their lives.
Look, let's take a step back and look at exactly two years ago at this same time. While Iranians inside Iran were getting ready to vote in the presidential election, there were people outside Iran, some of them right here on this very blog right now, who said that the election had to be boycotted. They were taking pride in the fact that theyhad never participated in an election under the IRI.
Thank goodness the people inside Iran were not listening to the guys outside Iran telling them to boycott. They participated in those elections and made history.
Iranians inside Iran feel very much vested in what happenes in Iran now. They don't need people outside Iran to tell them what to do. All we can do is to follow their lead and make sure the world does not forget about them and their struggle. The Islamic Republic will never again have another night of good sleep, as Iranians inside Iran are awake and searching for their own future without help from anyone.
Freedom for Iran is just a matter of time. Be patient.
Imtheking
by Parham on Fri Mar 04, 2011 07:24 PM PSTاونهایی که بهشون میگی ”دلقکهای خارج نشین” هم ایرونیَن و به ایران حق دارن٬ از حالامثل سی سال پیش انحصار طلبی شروع نشه٬
بعدشم هنوز کسی نتیجه این شلوغیها رو ندیده. شاید آخرش جایی ختم بشه که فقط یک عده بیگناه کشته و یا زندانی بشن. هنوز کسی چیزی رو نبرده که انقدر همه دم از درستیِ بیرون کشیدنِ مردم میزنین. راستشو بخواین، بنظر هم میرسه باز اینا زورشون به مردم برسه. با این دوستانی که تبلیغ مقابله گاندی وار میکنن قاعدتاً همینجوری هم خواهد شد ــ البته متأسفانه٬
Patriot
by Doctor mohandes on Fri Mar 04, 2011 07:20 PM PSTPlease finish what you started first, You asked a question then you started to get totally off the subject and ended repeating what we all know already . Here is the question:
That many of us want to see the Islamic Republic gone is nothing new. We have wanted it for years and years. But did it happen? Let's see. Hakha and the rest of the silly guys in Los Angeles, and a few in DC tried very hard (!) to overthrow the Islamic Republic by remote control, but it didn't happen, did it?
oK. so these guys are heaven's gift to iranians inside and outside iran. We should respect those who follow them, which still begs the question that i posed to Bavaffa what about the rest of the people ?
So, people came out when they called on them. More arrests, More Jailed, More to be HANGED!!! Ok so now what? How do we wrap things up?
But, Besides all this , What is the answer to that Q? how are we or rather THEY are going to do deal with that issue? As ignorant as we are , i am sorry not you, people like myself. and as Intelligent as iranians inside iran are, what is it all going to come down to?
Know thyne enemy
by oktaby on Fri Mar 04, 2011 07:16 PM PSTحمایت از اینان، برای افشای ذات خونخوار نظامی که این افراد جزو پایه گزارانش بودند تاکتیک درستی است.
ولی دلتنگی برای ندا و اشکان و کیانوش آسا به جاست که هیچ یک به
دنبال این حجاب زن ستیز و این پرچم خرچنگ و این رسم و قیافه نبودند. این
اسلامیهای ملافه به سر، یا لباس کلاغ پوشان نبودنشان به مراتب بهتر از
بودنی است که تیغ برندهٔ حرکت مردم را کند کرده. نه ایرانی هستند، نه
عرب. آش شعله قلمکاری که قهرمان و نور راهشان جانی بنیان گذار ننگ اسلامی است. اینها امام زاده های هستند که کور میکنند ولی شفا نمیدهند.
Oktaby
mullah-kosh
by ImtheKing on Fri Mar 04, 2011 07:19 PM PSTبه پا شست پای راستت، نره تو چشم چپت!
You're wrong Haji! All have been done by the Iranian people, I'm not saying the opposite. But, without Moussavi and Karroubi no one would have came to the streets. You are in west and do nothing except bragging. Karoubi, in Iran, had said by multiple times that the regime is neither islamic nor republic. That's called challenging the regime when you know that it kills for less than that.
چالنج که شاخ و دم نداره, جانم!
Baavafa
by Doctor mohandes on Fri Mar 04, 2011 07:13 PM PSTWhich Iranians AM I talking about??? Look down here bro:
Despite their past high ranking involvement in the regime, I support these folks because Iranians in Iran support them, because they have been the ones who have stood against the regime and as a result are in prison now. To not supporting them is to withdrawing our support for the Iranian people who are being oppressed by the regime.
It is a welll-known Fact that not all iranians are behind these two, regardless of what everyone else is thinking of them. Yeah, Yeah, They were brave to do this or that but so as long as they cling on to what we all know damn too well what is, It is all worthless.
So Please stop generalizing and saying that by withdrawing our support for them, we are doing Oppressed iranians a disservice. FYI, There are those who are oppressed and who do not want any association with or representation from these guys, Mage zooreh???!!!
پرهام،
ImtheKingFri Mar 04, 2011 06:59 PM PST
من منظورم دلقکهای خارج نشین بود که هی میگن لنگش کن! حالا شما چرا فکر کردی جزو اینا یی که من گفتم؟ غصه نخور، اگه میگی از اونا نیستی حتمن نیستی، دعوایی نداریم.
I find it remarkable
by Patriot on Fri Mar 04, 2011 06:53 PM PSTI find it remarkable that some diasporic Iranians quickly dismiss Mousavi and Karroubi as "one of them". It is just another example of how distanced some of us are from what is happening in Iran.
That many of us want to see the Islamic Republic gone is nothing new. We have wanted it for years and years. But did it happen? Let's see. Hakha and the rest of the silly guys in Los Angeles, and a few in DC tried very hard (!) to overthrow the Islamic Republic by remote control, but it didn't happen, did it?
Whoever Mousavi and Karroubie are and whatever they are, these are politicians many of the protesting Iranians like and respect. After a whole year of "sedition is dead" and "sedition is blinded", when Mousavi and Karroubi called on people, they came out again in February.
I doubt the protesters would have come out for any of the guys on this thread!
If Iranians inside Iran like these guys and want to follow them, I find it amazingly arrogant of Iranians outside to continue as they have for the past 30 years--as if Iranians inside Iran are not intelligent enough to know what they want.
I have a feeling that folks..
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Fri Mar 04, 2011 06:36 PM PST"Appointed by the Islamist regime" are reading this kind of blogs, quite happy hearing the hatred and dismissive comments directed towards these two men, coming from the folks who are otherwise sworn enemies of the regime...
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
Do you remember Irland?
by Kashk on Fri Mar 04, 2011 06:19 PM PSTUS used Northern Ireland to put pressure on the british, and now britain is US's poodle and as a result Northern Ireland is quiet.
Same strategy here, these characters are West's "mohreh" to put pressure on Iran. West is happy with Iran's military islamists(democracy and cheap oil don't mix), the only problem is control over Iran's oil plus no nukes. Feel bad for thousands of young Iranians that are used as pawns just for putting pressure on IRI to bring ahmadinejhad to the negotiation table. I hope one day Iranians succeed but hope I don't see any of these characters lead Iran towards an IRI LIGHT version. BTW, The dramatic background music is so phony.
I agree with bavafa
by Rostam on Fri Mar 04, 2011 06:18 PM PSTI agree with you that no matter what their dark past, at this critical juncture of our country, Mousavi and Karoubi should be supported and their freedom should be demanded by everyone.
But, their dark and criminal past should be brought forward, again and again, something for them to remember and be accountable for in a future free Iran.
Javid, are you reading this?
by Rostam on Fri Mar 04, 2011 06:12 PM PSTWell said Mollah-Kosh! I couldn't have said it any better:
"In essence, people like JJ, and others who helped this regime in anyway are responsible for going back and correcting their mistakes. Watching the Iranian youth getting beaten up and raped, If I was JJ, I would have picked up the gun and start fighting IR if I had anything to do with that devolution."
Who? Javid going back and correcting his mistakes? Are you kidding? This guy is not correcting his mistakes even right here abroad. Until recently when he had full control of IC, in the name of freedom of speech, he was allowing the supporters of the regime of rape and murder to speak freely while they themselves were crushing freedom of speech in Iran.
Now, jahanshah, who is the "kashk grinder"? mardake por roo.
Jahanshah Javid
by Rostam on Fri Mar 04, 2011 05:58 PM PSTYou wrote: "right now these "idols" are under arrest and great pressure from a regime that considers them its biggest threat."
Well, 20+ years ago, there were thousands of political prisoners under arrest who were considered pressure by the regime, which considered those young men and women as its biggest threat. Wouldn't you agree?
And where were Mousavi and Karoubi, these idols, back then, when these prisoners were getting executed left and right? Mousavi was at his prime ministry desk and Karoubi was in majles, neither of whom resigned from their posts.
You also wrote: "Other "idols" abroad are busy grinding kashk." Did you mean people like Jahanshah Javid? Speak for yourself, aghaye javid.