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Salman

I think you confusing the name of parties with different types of constitutions... Christian Democrats and Muslim Democrats are both (to my knowledge, I might be wrong) secular democratic parties that believe in a secular democracy (same as "Kristdemokraterna" in Sweden). The only difference is that they want some of their values (learned from christianity/islam etc) incorporated in the democratic laws/society.

However, if you say "islamic democracy", then that is something else, it affects the constitution the same way as a constitutional monarchy or a republic. The question is what will that give the people who might aswell vote for a islamic democratic party (within a republic or a const. monarchy) that incorporates islamic values? Why is there a need to have a separate constitution based on a religion?

Islam was never just "personal"

From inception Islam was a "public" order.  It is an intensely public, political AS WELL AS a private belief system. The same way that we have Christian Democrats in German democracy we have Muslim Democrats in American democracy. Democracy my friend has many shades in the same way that monarchy has many shades like your own secular monarchy!!

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Islam like homosexuality is a personal matter. Salman Farsi

With Islam, You are born muslim and pick up your beliefs by modelling your Parents.

With Homosexuality,  You are born gay and pick up your beliefs by modelling your opposite Parent.

There is no point interferring in peoples personal matters, but no one should impose something that is personal on someone else.  It doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with what they are doing or if you feel it is harmful to them and society.  These personal matters have been with us since the beginning of time.

It's the intolerace of Islam on non muslims that must be addressed, imposing their personal way of life on others or harming them if they disagree.

If you have a democracy, you have no reason to call it an islamic democracy, a homosexual democracy, a heterosexual democracy, an arabic democracy or an iranian democracy.  By being a democracy it allows any point of view, based on truth or lie, all people to have possibility to share power and all people to have the power not any personal preference at the expense of the other. 

To give it a name would not be democratic, its an oxymoron to have a heterosexual democracy because homosexuals are free to practice their personal matters and share in power too. 

An Islamic democracy means what?  Are women free to express themselves and speak against islamic values and then share power to get their way in this islamic democracy, if not it can't be a democracy.  It would be an islamic intolerancy and we already have that in Iran, with the IRI.

Salman

In the 8th century they did not use "latin" script to spell names. There are many ways to spell Eastern names.

المقنع

at least know your name correctly: Hisham and not Hashim. 

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Salman

If Hesham was my "jado abad" I would be a relative of Al-Moghan'e (aka VPK). :))

Well every family has its bad apples. On the other hand you sound more related to Benedict Arnold :-)

Hashim bin Hakim better known as VPK

PS: Hooshang you are never going to get a straight answer from Salman. I tried it with other IR types like "Q". Waste of time they will not respond to anything not preapproved by IR ministry of propaganda.

Daee Jan lotf darand

If Hesham was my "jado abad" I would be a relative of Al-Moghan'e (aka VPK). :))

 I think Daee jan needs a bit of extra literacy on the history of his country. It is Hesham Daee Jan not ahsham :)

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You still haven't responded to a single

question raised about you. Which again once more proves what you really are, a lying lackey of IR with a 'democratic' face.

Daye jan told me, to tell you, in addition to choking on Souhan don't forget Senjed and Konjed, also Shah Tot. He also said, and I only quote; "Hesham jad o abadeteh".

When Hesham met Hoshang!!!

This is getiing seriously funny gntlemen. Now that Hesham and Hoshang are an item, perhaps it is time for a little celebration

LOL 

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As I was just telling VPK you piss me off so much, I lose all patience with formalities.

I've attended enough lectures by him. You shouldn't bud in, in debates above your head. You still remain to show us:

A) Any of you 'works', translation or otherwise. Pictures of Salman Rushdie's defenders in London doesn't count. That's called Sepah profiling.

B) What you think about the character Mahound in Satanic Verses? If infact you weren't one of the ones burning that book.

C)You may still choke on Souhan, Daiey Jan says.

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VPK jan somehow I get overheated talking with these IR lackeys and lose my precision. Political Islam, the one that is imposed in the Public Realm by IR, is the one me think is poisonous and should be exposed to the strongest degree.

Personal beliefs and ideas, are just that , personal, and hence no bodies business. Almost 90% of the people in my life, family, friends are moslem and almost all of them very nice people, who keep their faith to themselves, and don't try to come up with yet another sham scam 'democratic version' of political islam, the poison. hope that clarifies, outta here, cheers

Do you always switch usernames when in trouble Ghasem?

So Hoshang Tarreh Gol is your error-proof alter ego? :o))

The trouble with you Ghsem (Hoshang) jan is that you can't even copy a quotation correctly. Pierre Bourdieu will not forgive you for misquoting him.

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Hooshang Jan

A poison named Islam that has destroyed every beautiful thing in our lives for the past 32 years, is no joking matter.

You are right. But we have gained something as well. I used to be a Muslim. I saw it for what it really is. Many of us did and many spat out the poison. This is a long journey but will free many of us of the poison.

SF, not only you don't comprehend the meaning of 'skating on

thin ice,' you're also a lie and an incredibly obtuse reader.

The latin term is from here (fifth line from the bottom):

//www.deepdyve.com/lp/sage/delegation-and-pol...

as written by Pierre Bourdieu, have a feeling he's more of an authority than you. 

A poison named Islam that has destroyed every beautiful thing in our lives for the past 32 years, is no joking matter. Plus the probable fact that back when Satanic Verses came out, you were burning it like all other democrat moslems. I bet you even haven't read it once. You're nothnig but  a lie. To prove me wrong, just in two paragraphs write what you think about the character of Mahound in Satanic Verses?

Daiey jan told me, to tell you, check your spelling of Latin and compare it with the professor B., then smack yourself in the head, for your obtusness, and choke some more on Souhan.

Your Latin is worse than your English Ghasem jan :)

Often when one wants to be pretentious the outcome turns out to the opposite. The correct Latin phrase is:

plena potestas agendi.

I don't know what you are taalking about brother perhaps using your tranlation skills you can explain. What "London" counter event, whcih "camera". You take things too seriously brother. Calm down. See how some of our civlized brothers are responding.

Choghok,

Thank you for a very true and insightful comment.

Iran 2050

You too raised and important point. Thank you  but please don't blame the IRI on Shiism either. Remember Ali (pbuh) was killed by  an early IRI leader: Ibn Moljam.

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I just have one thing to say

I just have one thing to say about people who blame IRI’s action on Islam, and do not realize that we as Iranians, have behavioral problems because of the socio-political structure of Iran itself that pre-dates Islam some 1000 years ago; problems such as intolerance, racism, dishonesty, thug mentality….., problems that were cause by the ultra tyrannical system set up by the same kings that we (for no reason) seem to worship so much, like Koroush and Dariush:

Aren’t we proud (falsely) of the fact that shitism is nothing but Zoroastrianism with an Islamic paint and we created is to “distance” ourselves from the “dirty Arabs!!”….?? OK, well, why is that now IRI is enforcing all true shite rules, we are blaming Islam? Shouldn’t we blame Zoroastrianism?

Do Sunni have vali Faghih? Do Sunni have taghih rule (which is an official permit to lie, deceive, and do every Machiavellian act in the book)? Do Sunnis worship death like shites do? Do Sunnis mourn the death of 12 Imams (God knows why?)? Do Sunnis think they have to cause chaos cause Mehdi is coming? And the list goes on.

Well, everything I mentioned is IRIs official policy and indoctrination. So, again, why blame Islam?

SF , now we all know your lying through your teeth

The event in support of Rushdi in London 21 years ago was a counter-demonstration  to show Islamic thugs extent of  Rushdi's  support within the community.

All IR lackeys  (like you) have hidden 'behind the camera' for the past 32 years. Don't have many places to hide anymore, your time in up. Skating on thin ice will catch up with you.

We've been gettign thousand and thousands of request for Satanic Verses in Persian and everyone is happy with the translation. I still like to see some of your translations. Obvuiosly you're level doesn't  get any higher than posting couple paragaraphs  of outdated jibberish.

As far as Daiey Jan, rest assure I have his full power of attorny -as far as you are concerned- plena potentai agendi. Do you understand that, or is that too unIslamic?

And he told me. to tell you, to choke on Souhan, cheers

Problem with "modern Islam" logic

The problem is that if you ask any muslim he/she say that the other one is not a real muslim, even muslims themselves do not accept each other, sunnis do not accept sunnis and Shias do not accept other Shias and now we are not even discussing the sunni shia prbolem.

The modern Islam or refined Islam is a good thing and I think is necessary if there will be any kind of peace in the world. But to succeed it does need people to not be ignorant, and unfortunatly big majority of people are ignorant, not only in Muslim countries but in most of the world. So a democratic Islam continues to be a myth because democratic Muslims are relatively hard to find.

Yes Salman

I am against Islam and IR. No point responding to the rest of your rants. But I do admit proudly that I oppose both Islam and IR. There is not such thing as "Islamic democracy". It is an oxymoron or a contradiction in terms. Islam means submission; democracy means rule of people. How could you submit to some 6th century foreign Sharia. At the same time have rule of the people? It is impossible. The only way to democracy is giving up on theocracy as West did.

We do not need to do barbarity against Muslims. They are doing that themselves! Not just to Muslims but to everyone. For 1400 years Iran has suffered under to Iron boots of Islam. We are done with being submissive!

PS: Why do you take the name of an infamous traitor for your avatar? It is like using "Benedict Arnold" in an American blog. 

You folks are first against Islam and then the IRI

When Mash Ghasem and Assadollah Mirza find each other on the same blog we only have Daijan Napoleon to complete the trio! And I suppose that is the part played by Divaneh :))

I think I have demonstrated beyond any doubt that at least 95% of the people who write things against the IRI on ths site have a blind and misguided hostility towards Islam.  So I ask you; what is the difference between you and Ratko Miladic? You guys are potentially capable of meting out the same degree barbarity against Mulsims. Why don't travel to the Hague and become witnesses for the defence? Perhaps you can save Ratko!

And Mash Ghasem jan! replying to your comments in the same order:

A) Now I understand why the Farsi translation of Satanic Verses is so poorly translated

B) I remember you very well during that demonstration. Look carefully, you were just under the "temsaale mobarake agha"!

And guess where I was? Behind the camera :))

J) Thanks for the advice

D) As you are curious about Souhan Ghom, here is something for satisfy your "konjkaavi" :)

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What the F...?

So this so-called moderate akhond says Imam Zaman after the zohoor will kill millions of infidels and takes their wives as prisoners!

Whoopty-doo!

something to look forward to!

And this is an examle of a moderate clergy?

Give them all Forced Manual Labor until age of 65

Why put them in Jail???

In reality violence begets violence, we need to respond to executions and torture of people with mostly non violent means.

Jail is too passive for this guy, making cement or mining coal would be good for this guy too.

Keep them busy.

واقعا که..!!!

رو که نیست، سنگ پای قزوینه!...بعد از این همه کثافت کاری باز هم بعضی‌ها دم از اسلام واقعی‌ میزنن؟؟؟..از این هم واقعی‌ تر؟...بعد از جمهوری اسلامی چشممون به دموکراسی اسلامی روشن!..به امید روزی که همه باور کنن که دین و مذهب جز خرافات چیز دیگری نیست...

Great guy

Although a shite, this cleric is an example of moderate and modern thinking and a TRUE muslim.

SF, You condescending you know what

In the ABJD order.

A)I assisted in translating Satanic Verses to Persian,  wouldn't mind reading some of your latest translations. Here's a digital version of one of  my most favourite books of ALL TIMES, Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses:

//www.ketabfarsi.org/ketabkhaneh/ketabkhani/a...

B)You could also see my pictures in London Times, Independent, FT,
Guardian,.. of that time defending Rushdi's right to free speech. I'm the one trying to half-cover my  face behind the "Freedom of  Expression" sign. Where
were you and your 'islamic democracy'?

J)You're skating on very thin ice but your Islamic arrogance, is keeping you very much ignorant of your predicament.

D)Salman Rushdi was named after his left-wing uncle.

H) Souhan is from your favourite city, I got nothign to do with it. Choke on it, cheers

عطوفت اسلامی در برخورد با کافران

این حاجی که یعنی‌ خوب و انسان دوسته، میفرمایند:

"... معامله (رفتار) حضرت با کفار - یعنی‌ مردان آنها را میکشند و زنانشان را به کنیزی میگیرند"!

در دقیقه ۳ و ثانیه ۲۰ این سخنرانی‌ گهربار، حاجی به مردم قم مژده معامله سید حسنی (آقا امام زمان) را میدهد. آقا با مردم قم که چنین کنند، تکلیف مابقی معلوم است! 

Mash Ghasem

First of all you are insulting Divaneh. Only the true "divaneh" needs to be defended otherwise the virtual divaneh does not need a counsel, least of all a counsel called Mash Ghasem

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=weIuDt7u4G8&feature=related

Second, Salman Rushdi was named after Salman Farsi

Third, no I don't need the Farsi version of Satanic Verses as my English is not as bad as yours. 

Fourth, I read it before you knew what it meant

and fifth,

I enjoyed it.

 Thanks for Souhan Ghom but keep it to yourself, "maale bad beekh reesh sahebesh mimooneh" :)

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In Defense of Ayat' ol Ozma Majnon

سلمان فارسی آقاجان سلمان فارسی

خائن پارسی دیگه کیه. مگه نعوذ بالله جنابعالی دیوانه شدید؟

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سوهان قم توی روح پدرش هر که دروغ بگه

این حنا دیگه رنگی نداره. تشت اسلام از بام افتاد و دیگر کسی برای پنج تا و چهارده تایتان هم تره خرد نمی کند چه برسد به این طلبه که هنوز فرصت نکرده شلوارش را از دست مدرسین بالا بکشد آمده و بساط مکر و فریب را پهن کرده. نشسته و میگه آره عربه میاد و مردهای قم رو می کشه و به زنهاشون هم تجاوز میکنه. خوب پدرسوخته به چه دلیل؟ حتماَ سوهان بد بهش فروخته اند و توش بجای روغن حیوانی، روغن نباتی زده اند. صبح تا شب نشسته اند و همین اباطیل را می بافند و قصۀ جن و پری می گویند. برو آن چند گز چلوار کذا و کذب را از سرت باز کن و ماتحتت را بهم بکش و مثل بقیه کار کن. آن یکی خائن پارسی هم مژده می دهد که آره این تنها نیست، از این گوساله ها زیاد داریم. از رو هم که نمی روند.