500,000 or 5 Million?

Don't get your hopes up for the numbers you've been led to believe we are


500,000 or 5 Million?
by bahmani

There is much anticipation over the recent US Census results and what number it will report Iranians at.

A valiant concerted effort by the community groups (PAAIA, NIAC etc.) last summer tried to ensure that we put forth the very best count we have had to date.

In spite of the time and effort and marketing and ads though, we shouldn't expect as high a number as we wish. And when it is finally officially announced this Fall (Sorry folks, if you get your census numbers and counseling from Dr. Holakouie, trust me, pack a bag and get out before he/she gets back, because your marriage is over), don't get your hopes up for the million numbers you've been led to believe we are.

My guesstimate is around 650k. It is no way anything close to a million, nevermind the 5 million figure being bandied about. That is ridiculous.

As far as the bias of ethnicity and arguing that it was not being asked directly in the form, that is a fair comment. The form did not have Iranian as an option to check off like all the other ethnic options, The Hispanics even got their own question! And you had to write ours in, and then there's race which was thrown into the form as well. Technically and racially, Iranians are considered white or Caucasian.

This error in the form, and not being able to fill it out right as an Iranian, however does not translate into 4.5 million missing white Iranians.

The data we will get this Fall is probably close, or 25%-50% off at most. Not 1000% off. If the official number is 400k like the good Dr. (is he really a Dr.?) says, this translates into about 500k-650k in the US, which is one of the ways I get my number of 650.

The other way and a lot cheaper than a Census is that you can simply go to the Immigration records and looked up the number of Iranians who either have green cards or US citizenship.

The real number is that total, because we know that there are almost no Iranians here on Student or any other visas, and anyone here has either gotten a green card or citizenship by now.

That's your number.

If you go with the official count (which is the one that counts for anything you want or think you deserve from the US government), then off or accurate, like it or not, the 400k number is going to be it.

And that makes us 0.13% (or 1 tenth of one percent) of the US population.

Or, smaller than the Viet-Namese, the Filipinos, and of course much smaller than the Chinese. All the Asians combined are less than 7% of the US population. And I think we can all agree that we are certainly not as big as all the Asians combined.

All the Asians combined are about 5 million. So I think we can all agree we are not 5 Million.

Unless the Asian portion of the survey is off too and Asians are actually Caucasian. Which is apparently an insult to Asians.

But if by some miraculous statistical error that could be dreamed up and then applied magically to our number, turning us overnight into 5 million, and the holy hallowed whopping 1.5% of the US population we apparently espouse to become, the more important thing, the most important thing is what the hell we plan on doing with that achievement.

And so far, at least the 30 years that I have been here, no one seems to know what the plan is, and what we ought to do, be, accomplish and achieve as Iranian-Americans.

Apparently we're making some serious money while we decide, which if true, means that while we have absolutely no idea what we want do here, we are very very very successful at making money while we stumble aimlessly about America.

Personally, I think we have been so busy biding our time making money, while we wait for Iran to become the utopia we have built it up into our minds, that we have forgotten to...


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by bushtheliberator on

The USA hasn't been at war in VietNam in thirty-five years,;and if all their kids were not Valedictorians, we would have forgotten about them.The Karen, and Hmong seldom break into the US news cycle.

But Iranians hail from #2 of the " Axis of Evil ", the IRI.!!Current events, and thirty plus years of "Death to America" fame should give Iranian voices prominence not measured by numbers alone.

Just imagine 500,000 Iranian-Americans joining hands to sing

" Bomb, Bomb Iran";it's a beautiful thing.


Any other statistics you want to know accurately just ask me

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

My intuition is good. :)


We are more like 1 million in USA on high side, 700K on low side

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

I'm using my intuition, it works better than the official govt statistic.  Few of the Iranians i know in Florida, which are around 40 personally, said they were Iranian on the Census.  The over 70's mostly did, the younger ones mostly did not.  I didn't say I was either.  Some of us have shame/denial/humiliation/identity issues admitting we are Iranian to non Iranians.



by yolanda on

According to Wikipedia.......the total number of Iranians living abroad are 4-5 million......not 4-5 million Iranians living in US!........

 Another thing is that there are a lot of interracial marriages among Iranians, so their kids can claim to be Iranian or a different race. Global economy and interracial marriages are the trend! I am not surprised if the actual number of Iranians in US is under-estimated!

Interesting info in wikipedia:

"As of 2010, there are an estimated four to five million Iranians living abroad, mostly in North America, Europe, Persian Gulf States, Turkey, Australia and the broader Middle East.[1][2][3] For the most part they emigrated after the Islamic revolution in 1979. In addition, a considerable number of people who claim Iranian origins are found in the Indian subcontinent (Pakistan and Muslim communities in India).

Their combined net worth is $1.3 trillion (2006 est.)[1][4] In 2000, the Iran Press Service reported that Iranian expatriates had invested between $200 and $400 billion in the United States, Europe, and China, but almost nothing in Iran.[3] In Dubai, Iranian expatriates have invested an estimated $200 billion (2006).[5] Migrant Iranian workers abroad remitted less than two billion dollars home in 2006.[6] "


So Iranians invest everywhere else except in Iran....uh, oh!

Apparently IRI does not provide a safe environment for them to invest! IRI screwed up! IRI is busy putting journalists in jail......IRI called Roxanna Saberi and Maziar Bahari spies.........Blog-father, Hoder, is serving a 19 year sentence...........no wonder people are afraid to invest in Iran!

Mola Nasredeen


by Mola Nasredeen on

 "1 tenth of one percent

is better than 1 tenth of nothing"

Pondered Hazrate shotor.