Anyway

I do

not understand what IRI and some like "No Fear" want by insulting Iran. Is IRI deliberately trying to be hated? What good does it possibly do to call Ferdowsi names. He is revered by all true Iranians. Does IRI want to be hated more; why?

Is it not enough to have 80 % hate them that they shoot for 100%? At least most dictators have the sense to pay lip service to their nation. These guys appear to never tire of attacking our own people. It is very self destrutive!

Result will be a very harsh overthrow. I guarantee you the day will come that Akhoonds will be an extinct species. By their own actions.

Have to go.

to be continued.

Your IRI and Arabic

Now IRIB is saying that only Arabic is spoken in Heaven, and Persian is spoken in Hell. How racist of IRI

//iranian.com/main/news/2010/12/08/video

IRI is the only country in the world that its flag has words written in a foreign language (Arabic), why ?

The racism is from the un-elected/occupying IRI towards  Iranians and Iranain culture and trying to replace it with barbaric "culture" of Islam

I love aftabeh!!!

bugger French bidets and Japanese portable douching -

aftabeh are simply the best!

preferably with water in them.

"What's three times worse than war?" "Three wars?"

No Fear

Alright, why don't you tell us where the man who encouraged Persian superiority (Claimed by you, not others) was from? which province of Iran.

This should be interesting

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

Shiism= Arab culture

I can't believe we have some baffons coming here saying how shiite Islam is the Persian form of islam, LOL, when we stop writing and reading the quran in Arabic, stop saying Allah o akbar, Wallah, Mashallah and any other Arabic word, and instead start using Persian words, then you can start saying it's a Persian religion.  Muslims themselves refuse to write the quran in any other language other than Arabic, proving our point that Islam is no more than a man made Arab religion.  Islam= Arabism

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

Lets see...

Currently in Iran is compulsory ( as it should be ) for all ethnic groups to learn Farsi as the official language of Iran. For your information , almost half of Iranian population have a mothertongue other than farsi.

Its very unfortunate ( In todays Iran ) that the person who revived farsi language, had very strong feelings about the superiority of the persian race. This has a negative polarizing effect in our ethnic regions. We are forcing them to learn farsi and we are rubbing our superiority in their face at the same time.

Isn't this the same shit that you little racists pigs were complaining about in the first place?

Hmmm..

If we ever get attacked by an arab army, they have to cross in to Iran through ethnic arab regions. I wonder with Ferdowsi's mentality, how would our arab Iranian feel? Should they fight to death to protect the " kiaani " land of persian mucho mumbo superiority?

For fuck sake ... get a life.

Sorry guys

I didn't have time to read all the comments below (after Divaneh's comment) so it seems that there's lots of messing up again with this blog. I don't have enough time to read all your posts now, but if this is the way it will have to go, I apologize for not being able to continue.

Good luck.

The good behavior of the people, warms our heart and make us thankful.....  And the bad ones, just make us to recognize and appreciate the good ones!

Arabs are the most racist people on the fvcking planet

 Any hostility you see from Iranians towards Arabs is retaliation. From the saudis to the Iraqis, the Racist ummah, to the Iran-Iraq war, started and funded by the whole Arab world. Arabs don't even like eachother from other countries, what would make you think they would tolerate others? Just take a look at what's happening to the natives of sudan by the Arab regime and it's racist president.

Some of us blame ourselves way too quickley. Stop the self-hating, actually look at the problem and why it began.

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

توصیف حکیم از مهاجمان عرب

The barbarians  who invaded Iran, killed many, took slaves and imposed their backwards culture of savegrey of Islam and devided people to beleivers and non-belivers to impose their cult are the racists. Their legacy continues to this date by IRI and its supporters. Stoning, cutting hands, killing for leaving a cult,..... are not considered "culture" by Iranains and civilized people of the world in 21 st century

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH-XoTtD_4g&feature...

No fear

I will have to answer to a part of your comment addressed to me:

You said: "What Ferdowsi wrote few hundred years ago about the arabs without any doubt is racist".......Then you add: "This is considered as racism TODAY!"

Let judge and consider what happened hundred years ago, in the same context of hundred years ago! The same way that I say, let not judge what happened in Islam some 1400 ago, by the today's values.
I don't think that Ferdowsi would care about the Arab's nation and their culture, if they had not attacked Iran and oppressed the Iranian nation by forcing their own Arabic rules and languages to them.

So maybe, just maybe, Ferdowsi has a right to complain about it. Yes he used that card (maybe the only one card, but the best one) to play  "in order distinguish Persian culture and to revive Farsi language" and I'm forever grateful and proud of him! Because I am an Irani, I have a history, a language and a country which is mine!

Not that the Arab were bad, but I am Irani(Parsi) and I will stay Irani because I will do everything to keep my culture and cherish its treasure, like every Arabic person would do for their own country.

and you said:

"Therefore, in my opinion, those who refer to Ferdowsi poems in order to re define !! their identity, must also be critical of ferdowsi's attitude towards other nations"

Re-define?? Who need to  redefine the identity? Are you implying that we have already lost our identity to the Arabs? We never needed to re-define our identity because we have always stayed Irani and Parsi, thanks to Ferdowsi and his alike patriotic Persian personalities.

Your word here is very much degrading and insulting to the Persians.

I don't know if this is your true belief about the Iranian identity having been lost already? or just a neglected sense of patriotism?

If some of us go to the extreme line of patriotism and seem to be confused about the superiority of the Iranian over other nationalities,  the guilt is not on Ferdowsi's shoulder, but it is on the people like yourself, the Iranians who talk of re-defining our identity!

Irani doesn't need to redefine his identity ! We are true Parsi and meant to stay.

Well, on the rest of your comment: No comment!

The good behavior of the people, warms our heart and make us thankful.....  And the bad ones, just make us to recognize and appreciate the good ones!

Loved it, keep it up

I 2nd JJ,

You guys are terrific. You have touched on an important issue and exposed a terrible weakness in our attitude towards race.

Keep it up! Looking forward to more

Stop Trashing

The blog please.

Let's exchange Views  Hurling Insults. and No advice and Instructions on Who should Go where.

Things were going well Until a certain Individual showed up...

VPK,

Did Ferdowsi claim persian culture and race to be superior to arabs?

YES or NO?

If yes, that is racism. There is no ifs or eefs about it. 

Our heritage

is superior for us Iranian people. It is not superior for Tazi like "No Fear". The Tazi culture if there was such a thing is good for No Fear; Q and the rest of them.

Racist BS comes from the left over Arabs from the invasion. They are indeed most racist because they hate our race. But while they hate us they whine racist. If I had my way I would take all this garbage and kick them back to where Arab throws the straw. They have no place in Iran. Packup and go. Take your hate of Iranians with you.

We are not Westerners with "white guilt". So do not try this sh** on us. It does not work.

You don't like Ferdowsi; you are not Iranian. All Iranians respect Ferdowsi. In fact it defines being Iranian.  Ferdowsi just said what the rest of us feel.

To the Tazi: pack up and go to Saudi. Except even they are smart enough not to want you. Only people dumb enough to let you in are the liberals in the West.

Good bye and good riddence and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Shah was way too nice to your kind. That mistake will not be repeated.

samsamsamIIIIIIIIIIIIII,

you said  "The federal democratic republic of Kiaan"

There are a lot of big words in that sentence. How you want to accomplish your purely idealistic solution?  By taking us back 1400 years?

Since you are so big on respect, why not respecting the religion of our people for the last 1400 years?  Thats 1400 years of our 2500 years history.

Iranians have been muslims more than being a follower of any other religion.

Besides, If you are so hell bent on an " Iranian " religion, then why not support shi'ism which is purely the Iranian form of Islam.

Bravo to common sense

 Bravo to decency, bravo to upholding the legacy of our kiaani cultural lineage, bravo to enlightened ham-mihans like AO, souri, Divaneh, Masoud, Arthimisia bravo to self-worth vs supremecy, bravo to self-confidence vs inferiority, bravo to self identity vs Id-less nomadism and bravo in celebrating the ancient glue that bond us together rather than self-mutulation of pan-ethnicism that divide us. .

If you dont know where you are coming from there is no way to find your true path to a  future. If you interrupt your connection to your past you shall be easy prey to alien pan charlatans who shall sell you foreign remedies as has been experinced many times.

Under a federal democratic republic of kiaan we shall have;

Proud Medeo-Persians , proud Azaris(even if prefer to be called turks), proud Arabs & proud Baluchiis  celebrating their diversities within the united front of Iran. We shall have  trilingual national languages of Parsi, Farsi & Azari taught to children from elementary school(Arabic already represented in Farsi).

We shall respect the proud Kiaani heritage of Medeo-Persians-scythians.

We shall respect the proud Hunish-Turani-seljuk heritage of Azari Turks ( & stop trying to convert them to our perception of their former Medio-Persian heritage, true or not it makes no difference and they are the ultimate judge of their identity) .

We shall repect the proud Semitic khouz heritage of Arab(Iranians) since to an emaarati or a saudi there is no difference between an arab or fars Iranian(Ask hani he will tell you).

Respect-Respect-Respect  so you wont fall neither into an id-less melting pot  and nor into a ethnic war.

& Mr JJ, shoma keh internationalist shodi keh khodet nooneto az tribal baazi mikhori keh amou.. then why Iranian.com and not middleeast.com :)

Cheers pals!!!

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia

Roozbeh,

Once you claim your culture and race is superior to another, you are a racists.

Get that in your skull.  knock knock ...pook pook

Mr/Mrs "no fear" says: "Ferdowsi was Racist"!!

Taking these words of wisdom from our resident leader of mahmood bi-mokh fan club, William Shakespeare who glorified the defeat of French at the hands of english in battle of agencourt in his fabulous play, Henry V was also a racist! No, wait a second, we are all racists, apart from Mr/Mrs "no fear" and his islamist facist Poster boy and his gang of bassiji thugs busy killing our arab, Turk , Kurd and balooch compatriots for no reason other than demanding freedom of speech, religioun and use of their own language.

Hypocricy and stupidity of an Islamist knows no bounds. 

Illiterate humour

I agree with Samsam, Souri, AO and others that these guys are biting more than they can chew. They want to talk about a subject of which they have no knowledge. They can't even get those few verses right and mistake the Taaj Kiani for Takht Kiani, and that is lazy. Their knowledge of Iranian history and culture seem to match their immaturity. If anything, we are in a period where we need some fairness about Iranians and their culture, not these childish, ill educated comments. I did not see anything of value in this cheap imitation of Parazit.

Souri Khanum,

What Ferdowsi wrote few hundred years ago about the arabs without any doubt is racist. There are clear indicators in his poems which points to persian superiority over our arab neighbors. Even if this superiority is claimed to be on a " cultural " ( as you claim ), its still racist. We can not claim our " culture " is superior to any other culture. This is considered racism today.

Atleast Ferdowsi lived in an era which racism was not an issue and he needed to play the race card in order to distinguish persian culture and to revive farsi language.

But the realities of modern Iran is different now and unfortunately, as beautiful as ferdowsi poems are, they do carry a strong racist attitude towards anything non persian. Therefore, in my opinion, those who refer to Ferdowsi poems in order to re define their identity, must also be critical of ferdowsi's attitude towards other nations. Or they can keep their heads up ahura mazda's ass.

In my opinion, strictly from the strategic point of view, Shi'ite Islam offers a more unifying factor for all Iranians who live in former persia. Playing the race card in Iran is dumb as fuck in today's geopolitics of our country.

Have you talked to an Azari Iranian and asked his opinion about Ferdowsi poems? He would be quick to bring out Shahriar and read you poems of how dumb persians are ( Ey tehrani, to khari yaa man? ).

Or have you shared Ferdowsi poems with the deprived balouchis?

Or with the arabs in the south?

And Souri jan

is a patriot.

It's a common thing in Iran for people to make fun of each other.Some make jokes for Arab, Lur or Turks. Some say Isfahanis are stingy or make fun of their accent. I just dont think it's racism the way it means in U.S or other western countries.

Socialist and Patriotic

And proud of it! 

Following up on Souri's excellent notes, one can not call himself Socialist and Internationalist without being Patriotic and proud of his/her roots, people and culture and ready to defend it from foreign invaders.

Exposing and fighting overt and covert Racism of Arabs towards people of Iran does not make one  a racist or anti arab or any less internationalist, quite the opposite! Lets get away from this knee jerk wishy washy liberal ideas of political correctness, and act like...a Socialist!

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

فراموش نکنیم....

چرا ما باید خودمون رو فراموش کنیم؟

چرا باید فرهنگ و افتخارات ملی‌ خودمون رو نادیده بگیریم فقط برای اینکه
بگیم که ما روشنفکر هستیم و نژاد پرست نیستیم؟ نژاد پرستی‌ چه ربطی‌ به
ملی‌ بودن داره. نه‌ به اون شوری شور، نه‌ به این بی‌ ‌نمکی.

چرا باید در ستیز با نژاد پرستی‌ انقدر غرق بشیم که دیگه خودمون رو هم
فراموش کنیم؟ حتی یادمون هم نیاد که کی‌ بودیم و از کجا اومدیم؟ و یا اصلا
وجود داریم یا نه‌؟ از قدیم میگفتند، احترام مسجد رو باید خادم مسجد نگاه
داره (یا یک چیزی شبیه این) اگه ما برای خودمون و ملیت خودمون ارزشی قائل
نباشیم، و اگه این حس میهن پرستی‌ رو به بچه هامون منتقل نکنیم، پس چطور
میتونیم از وطنمون در مقابل حمله خارجی‌ دفاع کنیم؟ این حمله چه فیزیکی‌
باشه و چه فرهنگی‌، نسل و نژاد ایرانی رو از بین خواهد برد.

اگر پدران ما، نویسندگان ما، شعرا و تاریخ نگاران ما برای حفظ این فرهنگ
و انتقال اون به نسل ما، زحمت نکشیده بودند، امرز کشور ایران دو دستی‌
تحویل عراق و امریکا داده شده بود.

کجا شما میتونستید بیایید واسه خودتون اینطور کلیپس درست کنید؟ شاید
اصلا نمیتونستید به زبان فارسی‌ هم صحبت کنید. وای به حال اون ملتی که از
فرهنگ خودش خجل باشه و احساس سر افکندگی بکنه و بیاد با شوخی‌‌های بیمزه
ملت خودشو در مقابل دیگران سر افکنده بکنه.

تمام ملت‌های دیگه به خودشون افتخار میکنند. ولی‌ ما همش به دنبال پیدا کردن عیب و ایراد از خودمونیم.

نه‌ اینکه هیچ ایرادی نداشته باشیم، نه‌ اینکه از همه بهتر باشیم، نه‌
اینکه به لشکر کشی‌‌های شاهان قدیممون افتخار کنیم، ولی‌ بگذارید حد اقل
خودمون رو به عنوان یک ملت شناسایی کنیم و خودمون توی سر خودمون نزنیم.

اگر ایرادی هم داریم، که صد البته داریم، سعی‌ کنیم از راه درست با اون
مقابله کنیم، نا با تمسخر خودمون. شما میگید چرا ترک‌ها و لر‌ها و عرب‌ها
رو مسخره میکنند، اون وقت خود شما بخشی از ایرانی‌‌ها رو که (به نظر شما
دارند اینکارو  میکنند) مسخره می‌کنید؟

اگر مسخره بد است، پس همه جورش بد است.

ایکاش.....

ایکاش که شما مالتیپر یوزر آیدی‌ها هم یک کم از شهامت سوزی رو
داشتید و به جای اینکه هر چند روز یک بار یوزر نیم عوض کنید و با اسامی
مختلف همش همون مزخرفات رو هی‌ مرتب قر قره کنید، میتونیستید  مثل من با
همون یک دونه اسم، باعث ترس و وحشت آدم‌های بز دلی‌ بشید که حتی جرات
نمیکنند اسم شما رو هم صریحاً صدا بزنند.

The good behavior of the people, warms our heart and make us thankful.....  And the bad ones, just make us to recognize and appreciate the good ones!

Suri

Thanx for the great post - here is a little something on the subject for the forum

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ecgSdoABnU&feature=player_embedded

Suzie's Entertainment Company presents

Recital of BOOK OF KINGS, by no one other than Mother of FOOLAAD ZEREH.

نادانی‌ گناه نیست، اصرار در نادان ماندن عیب است

با اینکه من خودم با هر گونه احساسات ناسیونالیستی که باعث
تبعیض بشه، به شدت مخالفم، ولی‌ باید عرض کنم  که این آقایون اینجا حتی اگه
هم نظر مثبتی داشتند ولی‌ هدفشون در محتوای مطالبشون به کلی‌ گم شد.

نژاد گرایی یک چیز است و نا آشنایی به تاریخ ملی‌ و زیر سوال بردن حس
غرور ملی‌، کاملا چیز دیگریست. چرا به ایرانی بودن خودمون افتخار نکنیم؟
ایرانی‌های که هنوز نفهمیدند که چرا باید به ایرانی بودن خودشون افتخار
بکنند، کسانی هستند که با تاریخ و فرهنگ و ادبیات ایرانی آشنایی ندارند در
نتیجه دیگه علاقه ی هم ندارند. و توجه کنید که من حتی واژه پارسی رو هم
اینجا استفاده نکردم، بلکه فقط میگم ایرانی، که یک مجموعه ایست که متبلور
تمام ماهیت ملی‌ فعلی‌ ماست.

این دوستان کلیپ ساز ما اینجا متوجه نشدند (و یا سوادش رو نداشتند) که
بفهمند که منظور فردوسی‌ از شعر "ز شیر شتر خوردن و سوسمار" چی‌ بوده؟

مسلما فردوسی شعورش خیلی‌ بالا تر از این آقایان بوده که بدونه که تفاوت بین فرهنگ‌ها فقط در تفاوت نوع تغذیه آنها نیست!

شیر شتر خوردن و سوسمار، کنایه به مساله فقر مادی و فرهنگی‌ عربها ی آن زمان بوده، نه‌ اینکه چرا چلو کباب نمیخورند!

آقایان باید توجه داشته باشند که اگر اینقدر شعورشان کمه که میخواهند از
یک شاعر والا و توانای ایرانی انتقاد کنند، باید حد اقل سعی‌ اینرا بکنند
که سطح سوادشون رو کمی‌ بالا ببرند تا هم معانی و تشبیهات رو در شعر فارسی‌
بفهمند و هم از تاریخ آن زمان کمی‌ مطلع باشند.

منظور فردوسی بزرگ از این سخن این بود که یک ملّتی که از  نظر سطح
مالی‌، فرهنگی‌ و ترقی‌،  بسیار پایین تر از پارسی‌‌ها بودند، حال آماده
اند که به آنها حکومت کنند.

تظاهر به نفهیمیدن معانی یک مطلب، شما رو هرگز به اون مقصدی که میخواهید نمیرسونه، آقایان عزیز. این رو بهش میگن یک نوع "دماگوجی"

سعی‌ کنید که معنی‌ مطالب رو اول درک کنید، بعد قبول درک مطلب بکنید (که
این بزرگ‌ترین درد ما ایرانیهاست) اونوقت بیایید با دلیل و برهان و منطق
محکم، اون مطلب رو ردّ کنید.

اون موقع، اگر که عرضه هم داشتید که یک طنزی هم بکار ببرید، میتونید از
این استعدادتون هم استفاده کنید و نظر مردم رو به خودتون جلب کنید. وگرنه
با صِرف مسخره کردن دگر اندیشان، بدون هیچ آگاهی‌ از بطن افکارشون، شما فقط
و فقط خودتون رو  مسخره می‌کنید. والسلام.

نادانی‌ گناه نیست، اصرار در نادان ماندن عیب است

Dear COP

Agreed - and I find it amazing for this khod-zani when we are under assault from all over.....

Also - there is a huge difference between our Persian Culture and the way of life for many in Iran today.  

Yes, we're too quick

to blame ourselves (as we should in just cases), but most of the blame as AO puts it comes from the leftist bunch who are still confused as to who and what they belong to.

As for the racism of our arab speaking neighbors, just ask a person who's been to Haj how they treat Eronians. That's all.

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IRAN FIRST

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