DECEPTION

Mr. Khounani

Thank you for helping me make my point so vividly in this little experiment. From one extreme to another. We still haven’t had our Sermon about tolerance yet. I intentionally and by design inserted the Gitmo reference there to guage your types degree of tolerance for the other extreme. You clearly demonstrated that. My apologies to others for just that piece of my post which is clearly out of line with my belief in democracy. I continue to resent Mrs. Ulrich’s insult to millions of people through artful wordsmithing. Belittling the millions and their system of government that she has begged to be a member of.

What I find extremely dishonest and deceitful about Soraya’s intentions in her post is hiding behind nationalism to sugar coat, her insane hatred of Zionism and the jews who live in Israel and any thing or anyone who stand in her way. Just to make it politically correct she screams I’ll be damned if I let this or that…...

Mrs. Ulrich why don’t you come out and openly say you agree with Ahmadinejad’s goal of wiping Israel off the map and then defend your right for enrichment? Forget about this nonsense that you are concerned about the lives of Iranians. Show me some reference to your publications that expressed such concerns when hundreds of thousands of lives were lost in an 8 years stupid war with no clear objective.

This is all what you are about. Use any god given talent, your sharp pen, the freedom granted you thru democracy just to promote hate, period.  This time, with regards,

Bijan

Hamvatan

In a short comment, you have said so many things. You are efficient. 

(i) As a matter of fact, I totally agree with you that Ahmadinejad and many of the people in the ruling elite in Iran are nothing but bigots who have endangered Iran's national security by their bigotry. In fact, the fact that Iran is in the present situation has a lot to do with what Ahmadinejad and company have said over the past three years. Before him, the European Union did not dare to push for sending Iran's nuclear dossier to the UNSC, because there was no legal basis for it. But, what Ahmadinejad said regarding Israel gave them the perfect excuse.

But, why do you think that whenever someone criticizes one side, he/she must criticize the other side as well, in order to be viewed as "fair" and "balanced?" The subject of my comment was what Bijan had written about Soraya's article. In many other comments I have talked about and criticized what the IRI has done.

(ii) Regarding my use of bigot: Since I have now confessed that the other side is also bigot, am I fair now? In principle, you are, of course, correct. I should not have done this. BUt, what do you call someone who calls Muslims "subhuman," the language that the Nazis used for Jews? What do you call a person who claims that Israel is an "anti-colonial state," when it has, at the very least, colonized the occupied territories for 41 years? Find a better, "non-insulting" word, and I'll be happy to use it when I refer to these people. 

(iii) Regarding your weblink: I would not trust memritv for deciding things as clearcut as whether it is day or night at any particular time, let alone political matters. This is a site dedicated entirely to demonizing Iran and other Muslims. The problem with some people is that, they believe that just because something has been posted somewhere on the internet, it must be correct. Anybody can start a .com or blogspot, and put there whatever he/she wants.

(iv) Regarding Soraya or I being "extreme" leftist: As far as I know, Soraya is neither left nor right, and she is a good friend. As for myself, this is the first time I am called an extreme leftist. I freely admitted that I am on the left side of the political spectrum, and have made it clear that I am, in fact, proud of it. But, I suppose if you disagree with me extremely, that would make me an extreme leftist.

Thank you.

Mammad

sadeq-quesa: So you think

sadeq-quesa: So you think war is a good thing for Iran or the Palestinians???
Inta Irani?? M3tKazzab!

It seems that you approve of Palestinian-centred foreign policy of the Islamic Republic??? Are you in favor of establishing an Islamic Caliphate in the region???

yes I wish Iran total success! (to the Kashani)

Kashsni_JAn, yes, although I have great deal of disagreement with many of internal policies of IRI (their neglect of poor and the middle class, corruption, etc.), I wish IRI, and more specifically all those Iranian engineers, technicians, and workers total success IF they are building the nukes.
Note the word IF there! Per many U.S agencies Iran is not building nukes.
Kashani_jAn, with minimal respect, that has been my position in the past as well not a result of your "confrontation". :-)

War theatrics

Dear Soraya,

THANK you for speaking out.

Here is my take:

Unfortunitely, Most Americans are unaware of the virulent group behind AIPAC that controls the pulse of US econmey not to mention the entire banking system.

Iraq war, the US defecit and the current credit crunch has exposed them. As more Americans experience the hard times, the more inquisitive they become.

Any way, the deficit, the moral depravity etc. are Americas problems. And it will not go away that easy.

For most part, talk of war is all theatrics by US and Israel to bring Iran to negotiating table on issues such as US deal with Iraq for permanent military bases.

Iran should prevent this deal even if it takes a war to do so. The last thing Iran wants is a permanent threat of war on its boarders.

The US economy is irreparably on downward spiral. Though very unlikely, in desperation, US may launch a war to divert public attention from economic hardship at home.

To be sure, a war would be very bad for Iran in the short term. However, it would not be so bad in a long term. Iran will recover and will come out stronger.

Strait of Hormoz is but only one obtion to bring house of cards down.

Most importantly, Iran can stop flow of oil in Middeleast at the source (UAE,Bahrain,Saudi,Kwait...) with as little effort as possible to influence BIG events as in Lebanon; look at Iraq today!

Re: Two basic thoughts

Abarmard ,

Well said

you always surprise me with your simple and to the point comments

On the first group, the Self proclaimed PERSIANS of all time

who would choose Israel/US side against Iran

They are better known as :

هیز

And they suffer from

سه جا ف لق

aka, Tush Factor.

Bijan A M You Are 100% Fair

Mr. Mammad, who is always insulted at labeling people (especially when he gets labeled), has no problem calling people who dislike the IRI or political Islam as "bigots".

For example, he states the following:

"If what Soraya does is abusing democracy, why is the same not true about bigots such as Zions, Fred, Imani, Salar, and FK?"

Where have you seen any of these people "abuse democracy"? They correctly point out to the double standards of the extreme left, which Professors Soraya and Mammad belong to.

Ms. Ulrich is a master of just telling you half the story (or much less than half 99% of the times) for making her points. But for some reason the Zions, Freds and Kashanis of the world become "bigots"

Oh- but wait, they find every excuse to not call the Ahmadinejad's (and the entire IRI system) of the world bigots. For example did you look at the video posted by Mr. Talebi below:

//www.memritv.org/clip/en/1802.htm

Give it a look and listen. Listen to what they are telling us in Persian. This is the ideology they are defending. This is the ideology that the freedom loving, Merlot drinking, Zionist hating Soraya defends with such passion.

Bijan AM, all I see from Soraya is an attack on extremes of one side, without looking at the extremes of the other at all. To me this is pure ideological dishonesty. The average Hassan, Ali, Morteza, Bijan, Kouroush is much smarter to fall for such substandard socialist propaganda.

Now worries folks, Hassan policy is replacing Hossien policy

We are all saved, war has been avoided. Looks like the serious threat of use of force and real danger of annihilation of their illegitimate regime has made IRI to bring Hassan out of closet again and he is heard to say “ Hasteh o Tokhmeh may not have been our rights so much to begin with, of course still mixed with heavy flavor of the famous velayat’s hot sauce of we are resisting o ready for martyrdom o death to great satan o Zionist o in harfa as always”. hossien agha on the other hand is no where to be found and is absent from any sightings right now. IRI is getting omat islam o momenin ready to gulp down the poison once more in great tradition of poison swallowing of imam Khomeini(aj).

When Mr Velayati speaks antari-nejad and the rest of monkeys will keep quiet and listen. The real decision maker has given the green light for policy called Hassan sazesho o maslehat to replace Hussein policy of reshadat o shehadat. Ms Soraya, would you please write an essay to compare and contrast these two policies and when velayat esmat o taharat switches from one to the other to save regime’s behind, to explain to those whom may not be familiar with these concepts in diaspora. This would be a great service since some people here are really having a tough time to separate reality from all the hypes and what media tells them. One day security, protection, anti-terrorism is in fashion and the next peace, diplomacy, negotiation, let’s all be green, they go from one extreme to another. No one really seems to think beyond what’s being fed to them. Of course hasteeyah and those who invent nuclear energy with forks in their kitchen know everything but I am talking about the rest.

Thank you

Khounani

“In a democratic society, every individual who submits to apathy is equally guilty as the man who is in command”.

And why did she insert the word "democratic" society in that statement? Was it just to excuse Iran? Aren't Iranians responsible for the creation of the IRI in 1978 insetad of a democracy? Aren't apathetic Iranians responsible for not having produced a democracy in the last 30 years, if democracy was what they really wanted?

If she really believes that kind of sweeping indictment of an entire people is valid, then the word "democracy" should be removed, and the people of EVERY society should be held responsible for what they have wrought.

Bijan A M: You are unfair

With all due respect - and the emphasis is on respect - I find your criticism of Soraya (actually attacks that are different from criticism) unfair, and also wrong factually.

The United States, or at least the Bush administration, is NOT at war with terrorists. If it were, it would not have

(i) invaded Iraq; 

(ii) withdrawn its froces quickly from Afghanistan to get them ready for Iraq invasion.

(iii) In fact, if this were a true war on terrorism, even Afghanistan would not have been invaded, because the United States knew full well that the leadership of al-Qaeda had left its camps in Afghanistan and was hiding among some tribes on the Afghan-Pakistani border. According to Richard Clarke, the terrorism Czar at the time of 9/11, when the Administration was debating attacking Afghnistan, Donald Rumsfeld said, "there are not many good targets in Afghanistan."

(iv) If this were a true war on terror, the US would not have backed the military dictatorship of Pervez Musharraf. He, his predecesors, and the Interservices Intelligence of the Pakistani military are the God Fathers of Taliban and the Afghan Mujahedin-turned al-Qaeda.

(v) You totally ignore the role of the US in creating Taliban, al-Qaeda, and the vast reservoir of resentment among Muslims, even among moderates such as myself, against the US, due to everything that it has been doing in the Middle East and the Islamic world, from Iran of 1953, to Indonesia of 1965, to Afghanistan of 1980s, to support of some of the worst regimes from Saudi Arabia, to Egypt, Jordan, etc. I am not claiming that everything in this regard is the US fault. But, the US has played a fundamental role in this.

(vi) You also seem to think that war on terrorism is a purely military issue. It is not. In fact, I contend that 90% of war on terrorism is war of ideas; deep thinking about how to address poverty, hopelessness, repression, etc. Military aspect is only a very small aspect of a true war on terrorism.

(vii) You also ignore the fact that Bush's "war on terrorism" has had victims even in the wonderful democratic tradition of the US, from Patriot Act, to eavesdropping, to tapping citizens' phones, to reading their e-mails and regular mails, to Guantanamo.

Regarding your remark on Soraya abusing the freedom:

I believe that in a true democracy there is no such thing as abusing democracy, at least not with a pen that Soraya holds in her hand. Many of the commentators here support some of the worst things that people like Amil Imani, Zion, Fred, Salar, Jahanshah Rashidian, .... say about Muslims and Islam, yet they cry wolf as soon as somebody like Soraya criticizes the US with her strong passion. I have yet to see you criticizing these people. If what Soraya does is abusing democracy, why is the same not true about bigots such as Zions, Fred, Imani, Salar, and FK?

A good citizen - a true patriot - is not someone who follows his/her leaders blindly, even in a just war, let along in a criminal war like Iraq's war. A good citizen, a true patriot, is, in my opinion, someone who thinks about what his/her leaders say and do, and criticizes them, if he/she does not agree with them. Another criminal war - the Vietnam war - ended precisely because the citizens raised their voice. An unjust military attack on Iran may be avoided, if enough citizens raise their voice.

Finally, although I know Soraya well - she is a wonderful friend (but this does not mean that I agree with her every time) - let me tell you how I feel about being a naturalized citizen of the US:

I am grateful to the great American nation, because I did my graduate studies in a great American University; because I have made my career here, and because I have been able to make a comfortable and quiet life for my wife and two children.

But, at the same time, I have returned the favor by being an outstanding citizen. I am not praising myself (although I recognize some may interpret it that way), rather, I am talking about the fact that I have never been in this country illegally even one second; my worst crime has been parking my car at the wrong place; over the past 30 years I have done cutting edge research, and over the past 24 years I have educated several thousands of the children of this country. Being a leftist that I am, I have also never tried to find a way not to pay my taxes; to the contrary, I always pay them in full, even though I know full well that most of my taxes will not be used usefully.

So, the US has been good to me, but I have also been good to the US. Therefore, it is my full right to criticize the policies of the US administration as a citizen. I will not shut up simply because my citizenship is hyphenated. The only difference between me and those "all American" people is that, the Boeing 747 that brought me to the US in 1978 arrived here much later than the boat that brought the ancestors of those "all Americans."

Mammad

What the Heck!!!

This is for Bijan, the Iranian Neocon who is "a disgrace to sit in his million dollar home in southern California, sip on his “merlo” and rip all the benefits that this nation has so graciously offered him", and yet be an insult to intelligence.

Are you for real?? What the heck??

Using you own words, “Who the hell do you think you are Mr. Cheney-Bush to imply and accuse those who don’t follow your hate filled mind” of treason?

“Considering we are in a state of war you have committed treason and better suited to be in Guantanamo”!!!!!??? I cannot believe it. Are you real? You seriously need to get your head out of your ass and examine it.

You sound like a brain washed torture specialist who just returned from Guantanamo? Then again, you may be one of those hit by "Soraya’s brick". So let me repeat it for you:

“In a democratic society, every individual who submits to apathy is equally guilty as the man who is in command”.

Did you read that? What the heck are you talking about constitution? What the heck do you know about constitution? And if you do, how the heck can you put together all these “arajeef”s. Everyone in this criminal murderous regime is criminal, everyone. Either by commission, or omission. But they all are criminals.

For the sake us all please look at a book called "The Prosecution of George W. Bush FOR MURDER", by Vincent Bugliosi, or watch it at //www.prosecutionofbush.com/video.php.

What the heck???

I feel like slapping you to wake you up. W A K E U P

NATO

Salaam Soraya,

The entire set of premises that you appear to have based your thoughts on this topic are flawed, in my opinion. Overall, it appears that you accept what you are told regarding the state of affairs by the ("international") corporate media or established academics.

(Your 'beloved" Mr. Chomsky, btw, let us note in passing, in comfortably established at, and sucks the teats of, M.I.T., which is basically a research arm of the Military Industrial complex, currently involved in some of the most insidious sort of research on controlling human 'herds' through technological means. One wonders why Noam hasn't yet moved on ... Call your "beloved" and ask him ...)

It takes an incredibly naive person to actually believe George W. Bush is a Christian, much less "born again". Anyone who has read the Gospels should have a pretty good idea of what a Born Again Christian is expected to behave -- Bush Jr. rather fits the mold of Pharaoh. Isn't it clear these people are demonic?

But given the nearly visceral reaction of the materialists to Belief and Believers, it is perhaps understandable why the critical region of your brain does not get activated when you hear the words "Christian" and "george bush" mentioned in the same breath.

But what is one to make of your blind acceptance of the corporate media of feeding the people this story of bad bad US and "Israel" -- one refuses to acknowledge that Name for zionistaan -- picking on the "Islamic" -- ~ditto -- Iran?

Soraya, are you not aware of the various flags worn on the shoulders of the soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Did you miss all the rabid speeches by various European heads of states? (A vain and short statured Italian comes to mind at this point. So does a Hungarian Jew currently installed as the 'head of state' in France. And lets not forget the "poodle". A lap dog indeed, but was that really America's lap Tony was sitting on?)

Are you also not aware of the 'stamp of approval' by U.N. on the whole sordid affair? Doesn't it deeply offend your sense of discernment, if not right and wrong, that this power elite founded and operated institution actually has given a mandate to the rape of Iraq? Does AIPAC run UN too?

Or how about the 'smiling buddha' of Tibet and his rather approving comments on the Afghanistan bombing campaign? (Some of us remember these things, Soraya Khanuum...)

I can go through the exercise of googling all the relevant links, but again, I remain astounded that a person (such as yourself) that is so pre-occupied with these matters is not aware of the above mentioned *facts*. So I will not bother.

I tend to agree that there is some truth in the 'essence' of the generalization of your mindset as that of a un-thinking leftist cheerleader. That is because the other alternative is that you are simply un-Thinking (and I can not presume that.)

In closing:

Facts belie the entirety of your imaginal narrative.

(What is the real story? God Knows, but it clearly is not what is fed to the masses.)

/& Salaam

Two basic thoughts

Iranians generally like to be the power of the region. This is a topic not related to the current affairs and the politics. IR or Shah, many Iranians see the foreign interference the main problem for the persue of a free and democratic Iran. Here is the logic:

-Those who have given up on the Iranian nation, becuase they have given up on themselves, they generally like the idea of an American or Western interference to overthrow the Mullah regime. They believe that they are, and therefore the Iranians are too weak to stand against this regime, meaning IR.

-Those who think that if Iran gains any technological advances, especially in the field of defense, allows Iran to be free of a foreign interference and therefore there would be room for the poeple of Iran to drive to the democratic destination

-The west (read US and Israel) is betting on people of the first group and now pushing for war, thinking that there is a chance that the majority of the country are in the same mind set as that group, who appreciate a foreign interference and even occupation.

You decide!

Anti-american

I feel so fortunate to see so many intelligent souls capable of articulating their view points with such eloquence. I view them as my timid voice and am sure there are many many other silent observers who feel vindicated by your expressions. Thank you Salar, Kaveh, anonym observer, anonym4now, Craig,… and many others for covering many of my arguments about Mrs.Ulrich’s post. My additional comments to follow may paint me in a different light, but to be honest to my conscious I felt obligated to speak even if I fail to express my views as clearly as others.

As starter, I need to proclaim my opposition to any war, not because of the loss of lives and destructions (I have immediate family who still live in Iran), but because of its potential to prolong the life of IRI which eventually would lead to more loss of lives, misery and destruction.

With all my love for my culture and my homeland, as a naturalized citizen of US I have chosen to pledge alligeance to this country and defend the constitution and the democracy it stands for.

This country grants its citizens the right to criticize the government, people of authority or any organization within the framework of freedom of speech and of course the prevailing laws. And, in my opinion, it is this freedom that Mrs Ulrich is abusing.   Our nation is in a state of war, not the Iraq or Afghanestan war, but the war declared by Jihadists on 9/11. Although our democratically elected president may not be as intelligent or bright as is demanded by that position, it will border on treason to slander the will of majority in a state of war. I have never voted for Mr. Bush and personally don’t believe that he deserves to be in the position he is, but I respect him out of respect for democracy and the will of majority. This is not to say his position and his actions should not be criticized vehemently within the frameworks of law.

What I find most offensive in Mrs. Ulrich’s post is her painting of millions of Americans with the same brush by making smart ass statements like this:

“In a democratic society, every individual who submits to apathy is equally guilty as the man who is in command”.

Who the hell do you think you are Mrs. Soraya Sepahpour-ahmadinejad-Ulrich to imply and accuse those who don’t follow your hate filled agenda as apathetic? You have artfully insulted millions, myself included. If you abhor Zionism or the Jews who live in Israel, why don’t you have the integrity to come out and post your garbage without deceiving people and hiding behind the flag of nationalism or as my friend said shedding crocodile tears. Shame on you….

You know, you are a disgrace to sit in your million dollar home in southern California, sip on your merlo and rip all the benefits that this nation has so graciously offered you, and insult them like this.

Your post belongs to Bin-Laden’s site. Considering we are in a state of war you have committed treason and better suited to be in Guantanamo.

The fact that many die-hard anti-americans are absent on this thread, should tell you a lot…  No regards,  Bijan

Response to Anonymous Observer

I didn't call the Palestinians my "brothers"; I have one brother and he lives on the West Coast. I didn't criticize the Holy State of Israel "on behalf" of them, but because it's the right thing to do. And yes, the Palestinians did support Saddam. So did all of the Arab states, except for Syria (and to a lesser extent, Libya). However, the chemical and conventional weapons, satellite intelligence, and diplomatic support provided to Iraq by the U.S., Europe, and Russia were about 1000 times more important for Iraq's war against Iran than some Palestinian fighters who might have supported Saddam; whatever their numbers, they were not a significant element in the war. So why don't you place the blame on the U.S. and Europe and their Arab puppet dictators in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Jordan, Egypt, and Iraq?

As far as Osirak (which terrorist commander Menachem Begin bombed), this lie has assumed mythic proportions. In fact, Osirak was entirely useless for producing nuclear weapons. The Israelis did not save anyone's life, let alone any Iranians, by bombing it. Quite the contrary, because Iraq decided to launch a secret nuclear weapons drive AFTER the Israelis bombed Osirak and in part to deter any such future attacks on Iraq.

Please read the following 2 letters--the first by a professor of Physics at Harvard, and the second by a professor at Emory University :

"The Osirak reactor that was bombed by Israel in June of 1981 was explicitly designed by the French engineer Yves Girard to be unsuitable for making bombs. That was obvious to me on my 1982 visit. Many physicists and nuclear engineers have agreed. Much evidence suggests that the bombing did not delay the Iraqi nuclear-weapons program but started it. For example, the principal Iraqi scientist, Jafar Dhia Jafar, was asked by Saddam Hussein to work on the bomb only in July of 1981.

Richard Wilson
Mallinckrodt Research Professor of Physics
Harvard University"

"However, the success of the 1981 Israeli attack in delaying the Iraqi nuclear-weapons program has been greatly exaggerated. The French-supplied reactor at Osirak was not well designed for plutonium production, the pre-attack Iraqi route to building a nuclear weapon. Further, by 1981 the French had decided to supply the Iraqis with a special nuclear fuel that could be used to run the reactor but was not well suited for plutonium production.

More important, a rigorous inspection regime was in place to ensure that plutonium could not be produced and secretly diverted to a weapons program. The International Atomic Energy Agency was in the process of installing an extensive inspection regime that would probably have included twenty-four-hour camera surveillance and frequent on-site visits from IAEA inspectors (the reactor was not yet operative at the time of the attack). The French themselves had technicians on hand who filed frequent reports.

France opposed Iraq's acquiring nuclear weapons, and would have suspended the supply of reactor fuel if evidence of plutonium production had been uncovered. The diversion of plutonium would have been difficult to conceal, given that it would have involved a number of non-routine activities, including possibly shutting down the reactor. Imad Khadduri, a former scientist in the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission under Saddam Hussein, bluntly declares in his recent memoir that the idea that plutonium could be produced under this inspection regime without tipping off IAEA inspectors or French technicians is "delusional."

Rather than delaying the Iraqi nuclear-weapons program, the 1981 attack may actually have accelerated it. The attack appears to have heightened Saddam's interest in acquiring nuclear weapons. After the attack Saddam started an underground nuclear-weapons program, unbeknownst to the international community and hence free from the fetters of IAEA inspection.

Given that Osirak is supposed to be the prototypical success story of preventive attacks against a rogue state's nuclear program, this episode should give considerable pause to advocates of future preventive strikes.

Dan Reiter

Atlanta, Ga."

Cambridge, Mass."

Anonym7, you said "If IRI is

Anonym7, you said "If IRI is building nukes I wish them total success"..well, I guess that all we needed to hear! Guys, these guys claim they're not anti IRI (Although we all know they are!), but as we can see, if you confront them a bit, they will admit to their true intentions. Just imagine if a German would've said they are pro Nazis, or a if a Chinese would've said they're pro Mao, or if an Iraqi would've said they're pro Saddam, or........How would others think about them? it is just a sad reality that after 30 years of brutal massacare of Iranian people, after 30 years of killing, imprisoning, torturing, exiling, silencing, and destroying our great country, there are actually people who suuport the IRI for one simple reason, which is those thugs and laats, claiming to be anti U.S. Its just really sad. but at least we should be proud that these guys are comming out of their shells.

TO: AnonymousMashhadi

It's interesting that you mentioned the whole Arab thing and the Iran / Iraq war. You do realize that your Palestinian brothers, on behalf of whom you bash Israel and call it all kinds of names, were on that battlefield fighting alongside the Iraqi troops against Iran? They had all actually volunteered to fight in the great Arab Qadissiyeh.

You also do realize that it was this evil "Yiddish supremacist apartheid state of Israel" that saved your country from nuclear annihilation by Iraq? Yes, I'm talking about Israel's attack on Saddam's nuclear facilities, which if it had not done, Iraq would have developed nuclear weapons. And where do you think the first one would have landed? That's right...Tehran. Obviously, Israel did it for its own protection, but the end result was that Iran was saved from being Arabs' first nuclear testing grounds. So, have the courtesy to at least, for once, thank the Yiddish supremacist apartheid state of Israel for saving your country from a certain nuclear attack by your Arab brothers. That way, you won’t just sound like an ingrate , and will have a little more credibility when you post your anti-Israeli comments.
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Monarchists, MEKs and Zionists

There is an old proverb that says “if you throw a rock at a bunch of dogs, those that bark the hardest are the ones hit.” and such is the typical reaction of those outcaste monarchists, MEKs and Zionists(not Jews) groups to Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich articles. They care more about their ideologies than Iran. I guess to these people seeing Iranian children slaughtered and the country “bombed to oblivion” is a necessary evil. I guess, to them, it’s OK for Iran to be destroyed at the hands of even more evil governments as long as they are not at its receiving end.

Most of the commentators, who attack Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich for exposing the hypocrisy and the historical evil deeds of this group of bellicose countries, show their callous disregard for the lives of Iranians. Callous disregard for innocent Iranians who are going to see their loved ones blown into pieces, and their meager belongings destroyed.

The IRI’s violations of human rights and other treaties are not hidden, but hidden are far worst crimes committed daily by US, Israel and their allies. I commend Soraya for both exposing the hypocrisy of these self-righteous bellicose countries as well as trying to stop bombarding Iran to oblivion.

I am in no way supporting the current Iranian government but let’s not forget the murder of more than ONE MILLION innocent Iraqis and the total destruction of their country with no end in sight. The current corrupt US government is by no means less evil than the IRI and they need to be exposed as much as possible. I will trust a fox in the hen house before trusting US government and her allies with the future of my country. I commend Soraya for her courage and her willingness to be abused in order to expose an unpopular truth.

As far as the truth or the falsifiability of the accusations that Monarchists, MEKs, and Zionists are making about Soraya, I say that action speak louder than words. These are typical name calling and the least of my concerns. What is of outmost importance for me is Sorays’s effort to stop my country from being destroyed and thousands of my great people slaughtered. What are important is her actions, her efforts to stop the massacre of a million Iranian and to expose hyped up, exaggerated, and made up propagandas crafted by corporate medias and public relation firms at the service of the most corrupted U.S. government in history. This also applies to the same old Zionist groups and their henchman AIPAC.

We need more people like Soraya and less typical name calling or accusations.

Thank you Soraya. Good job.

A Few More Observations

I actually forgot to mention a couple of things. First, Ms. Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich, I am glad that you have read two books by Jewish authors, and it is very interesting that you make a point of mentioning that they are Jewish (I'm not a Jew / Zionist by the way). I hope that you realize that reading a couple of books by Jewish authors does not make you any less of an anti-Semite. Joseph Mengle worked with Jewish doctors and actually admired and respected them before he went to Auschwitz.

Second, while you talk about defending our country, you and the likes of you are actually the ones who are recklessly placing Iran in peril because of your hatred for an entire nation (Israel) and by your three decade long efforts to get Iran mired in an artificial conflict with Israel for which there is no logical reason. If there is a war between Iran and Israel, the likes of you and your ideology will be the culprits by being the cause of animosity between Iran and Israel. In fact, while you pretend to care about the people of Iran, you won't hesitate a minute to sacrifice every man, woman and child in Iran if it helped destroy the State of Israel. Therefore, the most dangerous ideology in this whole scenario is yours. You and the likes of you are the ones that fan the flames of hatred between the two nations by your ad nauseam and tiresome tirades about "Zionism". Instead of pausing for a moment and asking the fundamental question of "why do we even have to be in conflict with Israel", you have mindlessly and recklessly jumped on the anti-Israeli bandwagon, and are pushing our country into a military confrontation with a country with which we should NOT have a genuine issue.

Again, spare us your hate speech and conspiracy theories. You have no love or respect for Iran. You are just another anti-Semitic rabid leftist who is obsessed with Israel, and you want to sacrifice our people and our nation so that Israel can be destroyed in the process. I think that it is about time that people see your true colors.

All these phony Iranian "patriots" worship Israel

It is really funny to hear the Shahollahi and Rajavi-worshiping welfare-collectors who live in Los Angeles talk about throwing the "Arabs" out of Iran. Where were these "pahlevoons" when the Arab armies of Saddam attacked Iran? Many of these same Iranian "patriots" actually supported Saddam's invasion of Iran and fought with his troops. Fortunately, there are real patriots who lived in Iran both then and now to defend our country. It was these young men who destroyed the pathetic, Saddam-collaborating Mojahedin thugs on the battlefields. Just as these enemies of Iran worked with Arab Iraq, they are now working with the Yiddish supremacist apartheid state of Israel and trying to provoke an attack on Iran. They will again face the same total failure that they faced in 1988.

Is America in a permanent decline?

Hey guys, the title of my post is not from a leftist or Islamist article it is from msn (//articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Sto...)
"Bush admits to tough month in Afghanistan", again this is from a cnn article not an article in Tehran times (//www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/02/bush.speech...)
..... so there is really no reason for U.S to start an all out war against Iran.
On the other hand, If IRI is building nukes I wish them total success but ultimately that is not going to make IRI more stable when so many people and particularly the poor are neglected. Both sides need to calm down and talk .... that is it!

Arab regime been Farting the same propaganda for retards

for 30 years...Unbearable smell of Mullahs propaganda Fart is forcing the Iranians to  escape the smelly room aka "Arab Jehadists occupied Iran"...now the smell of  mullah,s Fart has reached the shores of USA...Propaganda & rethoric has replaced common sense.

Run people run!! before the Methan gas suffocate you!!

See dear Soraya?!

See they keep wanting to "stone" you! One of them is asking Mr. Javid to let them do it for as long as possible!

It is really barbaric and Islamist and 'savagist' when IRI stones people but THEY should be able to "stone" YOU! Another one wants to teach us English! And another one wants to teach us Farsi!!

The best thing to do is to let them vez vez for themselves. Other than that Farsi saying, another one is that javab-e ablahan khamoosheest.

They are tearing their collars apart! Yakheye khodeshoono daran pareh mikonand!

To: Fan Of Liberty

It appears that as I was typing my comment, she was posting hers. C'est la vie.

As far as your opinion of my tone being condescending, you of course are entitled to feel that way if you choose. However, I am asking Soraya questions in response to specific comments she has made. The choice of whether or not to respond is entirely hers to make. 

What is inappropriate is your decision to speak on her behalf.

"Condescending" would be an appropriate adjective for the comment you directed at me.

Fan of liberty, The real

Fan of liberty,

The real “magas: who have been “vezvezing” for the last 60 years or so, is the alliance of leftist and Islamic groups who have been silencing and oppressing progressive, reasoned,  and open minded Iranians who spoke out and said anything that’s beneficial to Iran, by calling them “Zionists”, “gharbazedeh”, “CIA agent”..and other misguided, confused and illogical concepts like that.  

"should Iran be attacked,

"should Iran be attacked, millions more will die" be rest assured it will be mostly yankees as romans, arabs, mongols, all tried and all failed in the long run to wear down our spirit and the yellow bellied yankees wont succeed either as they lack the resolve and moral integrity needed

Is Fred an actual person or just a broken (paranoid) record?

Why else would our in-house Zionazi/Iranicon repeat the phrase "Islamist/Anti-Semites and their like minded lefty allies" ad nauseam?

It is invariably true that those individuals who are most promiscuous in flinging about accusations of "anti-semitism" are also likely to be the most inveterate and pathological haters of Muslims and other such "Goyim" (the latter word referring to the non-Chosen portion of humanity).

Ms. Ulrich, Please watch

The follwing clip posted by another contributor. Its 100% in farsi. I just watched it and could not believe what I saw. Please do not read the English subtitles and just listen to the farsi. If you are honset enough to watch it, please answer a few questions for us:

//www.memritv.org/clip/en/1802.htm

1) Is this the Iran you knew before you came to the USA?

2) Is this the Iran that you are defending for us here in your blogs?

3) Are the people in the video clip "Iranian" and have Iran's interest in mind like you have?

3) Do you see the problems the Zionists have with the IRI after watching this clip?

How Interesting!!!

You see, this is what I call intellectual dishonesty (and if had taken the time to read my comment carefully, you would see that it has nothing to do with whether or not you attended an Ivy League school. What I meant by intellectual dishonesty is your eschewing and misrepresentation of facts, and your blatant double talk. For instance, at the beginning of my comment, I specifically denounce any attack by anyone on Iran. But then you accuse me of supporting that by saying:

"When Iran is under attack by the U.S. and Israel on the basis of nuclear, interference in Iraq, and human rights, I will be damned if I add ammo to these two countries who want to destroy mine. If you want to do it, go ahead, be my guest."

You accuse everyone who disagrees with your bankrupt and corrupt leftist ideology of being in favor of attacking Iran. Now how is that different from George Bush's "you're either with us or against us" comment? You are just as big a fear monger as W.

Second, in all honesty, I do not believe that you care a bit about Iran being attacked or not attacked. You have an agenda, and that is to bash anything that you perceive to have anything to do with Israel. While you accuse me as a critic of your "article" as being hateful (calling people names with who critic your writings is called intellectual thugery) I believe that the origin of your rants is the irrational and deep seeded hate that you have for a certain ethnic group. You even tacitly acknowledge as much by saying that you "hate Zionists". Who's a Zionist? Everyone who lives in Israel? Zionism is a movement. Do you hate the entire movement? Why? Israel was in existence for thirty years before the Iranian revolution and they had no animosity for us. Why was is it that all of a sudden (and literally overnight) Iran became Israel's enemy? Was it possibly because of thirty years of "marg bar Israel" chants in Iran? Does the Iranian government bear in responsibility in the animosity between the two countries, and if so, if Iran is attacked as you scream that it will, and many people are killed, does the Iranian government bear any responsibility for those deaths? I mean, what does the Israeli - Palestinian conflict have to do with the people of Iran (and please don't say our tax dollars as I am talking about the people of Iran)? Why does Iran have to be mired in that conflict to such an extent that Israel deems it necessary to attack it? Why isn't Saudi Arabia the standard bearer of the Palestinian issue? Why do the people of Iran have to be the sacrificial lambs for Palestinians? You see where this is going, Ms. Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich? This is what I refer to as intellectual dishonesty. It's not taking into account ALL relevant facts and analysis and trying to eschew the argument in your favor by creating a manufactured reality.

Another example of your intellectual dishonesty is the fact that despite all your postings here, you have yet to write a single piece addressing the human rights issue in Iran. Please note that while you sip your Merlot in the U.S. and enjoy the benefits of the country whose foreign policy you abhor (God, you are a hate-filled person) there are hundreds of thousands of street children in Iran who sleep in the streets at nights. Compassion for the people of Iran is not the moral equivalent of Israel or George Bush bashing and fear mongering about the Zionist boogeyman. There are many other aspects of the people's lives in Iran that a person can shed light on that may actually be of some help to those who are suffering in that country.

Lastly, I hope that you realize that the comment that I made about you being in the U.S. during the revolution and the war was an allegory. My intent was to show that you were not in Iran and did not go through what other Iranians went through, and that is why you can be the out of touch leftist, elitist and apologist that you are. Wherever you were, I doubt that you were in Iran, and you give no indication that you were. I also did not imply that you went to Berkley (read my comment again). I said you were the "Berkley type".

Ms. Ulrich:

Not every thing that had the word nuclear in it, is sinister.  Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Imaging refers to the interaction of magnetic fields with the nucleus of a hydrogen atom and has nothing to do with nuclear energy released from fission and hence release of radiation.  India uses nuclear power plants to generate electricity which is used in the electrolysis of salt water because they have very little oil to generate electricity with.

No one can deny the value of nuclear research and power generated from nuclear technology, but no one wants the mullahs to have that technology because they will abuse that technology and will develop nuclear weaponry, as they are doing now.  I have said it elsewhere and will say it again: A nuclear weapon in the hands of the mullahs is the ultimate abuse of Human Rights.  

“When Iran is under attack by the U.S. and Israel on the basis of nuclear, interference in Iraq, and human rights, I will be damned if I add ammo to these two countries who want to destroy mine. “

So you do admit to your intellectual dishonesty, and are willing to forego all the suffering of the Iranian nation so as not to give “ammo to these two countries who want to destroy mine.”   You are distorting facts to fit you own agenda; a perceived enemy at large.

Can you name the one country that has spent money and effort in Iran to bring Iran out of poverty, eradicate disease and improve health education, and help build Iran’s infra structure by giving financial aid, to make it capable of standing on its own two legs?  All through the 50s and till the mid 60s, when oil revenues started to make Iran one of the richest nations, the U.S. was giving Iran financial aid.  Can you name the president who has consistently said that he has great respect for the good people of Iran who absolutely do not deserve this regime?  George W. Bush.

 If there is an attack on Iran, it is because of 30 years of antagonizing and breaking of all international laws and protocols by the IRI, and creating international incidents to esclate tensions, without any regard for endangering the lives of Iranians.  It is the delusion of grandeur that the IRI is suffering from, that you should stop fueling, not this phony notion of giving ammo to the destroyers of Iran.  The destroyers are within.