Foreigners plotting against Iran?!

We have been unable to adopt Western values that have been far more superior


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Foreigners plotting against Iran?!
by Ben Madadi
19-Sep-2007
 

There is absolutely nothing special about being an Iranian, no matter what kind of an Iranian you are. This is what I believe. I have recently, many times, mentioned my Iranian background, but I have never felt that my background is different, or any better, than other Iranians' backgrounds. Iranians are of mixed backgrounds, they speak different languages and have different cultures and customs. It is quite a different country from this aspect. It is a very diverse country, unlike most other countries in the West where the vast majority of people speak the same language.

My pointing to my difference to the Iranians majority (half of the population who are Fars, or Persians) had mostly to do with a simple fact, and nothing more. I have got used to freedom of expression, without taboos and prejudices, in the West. This doesn't mean I believe that there are Iranians who are better than others. It is indeed bothersome, not just to me, but to most other Iranian minority members, to see that their own identities are not acknowledged and respected.

This is beside the point that Iranian non-Persian provinces have been systematically discriminated against by the Pahlavi, and later the Islamic, governments, from many points of view, first of all investments. Non-Persian provinces (most notably, Kurdish, Arabic, Turkic, and Baluchi populated) have been left outside most development projects, and as a result many of the inhabitants of these areas often moved to Persian areas of Iran. This is clearly obvious from old and new statistics, for example mostly Azerbaijani populated areas of Iran comprised of some 1/4 of Iran's population some 80 years ago or so, while they hold around 1/6 of Iran's population now.

In turn Azerbaijanis have become numerous as minorities in Persian cities. This is nothing to hide, and there is no fantasy in it. The same is true about other minority groups, and probably is worse for Kurds and Arabs, who have historically been least integrated within the Iranian society.
Does the above realities mean that mentioning them is dangerous? Is mentioning these issues bad? I would like to know why so many Iranians of the diaspora are so angry about mentioning such issues. Some of them actually believe that no person on his right mind would say anything like this unless he is paid by some foreign powers. This has for so long been an Iranian obsession. That foreigners of various types are out there to get them.

Why would some foreign power pay me for writing such stuff? I am not even sure about the quality of my writings. I am actually pretty sure they are not as good as they could be in case I were a professional writer, which I am not. And I am sure they are not great. I don't like them much. What makes me write is exactly the same urge that makes other normal Iranians write, and that is conscience.

Iranian history books are full of loathings against the British, the Russians, or the Americans for their interferences in Iran. During the Pahlavi regime it was also very fashionable to blame invading Arabs or Turks for Iran's problems or backwardness. This last part has largely been removed from Iranian textbooks but the Russian, British, and American part has intensified, with some anti-Israeli rhetoric being added to it.

India was colonised by Britain for a very long time. As a result India is a democracy. I sincerely believe that the reason India is a democracy is because it was colonised by Britain. So, colonisation has not been that bad for India. If you ask me, I wish America comes today and colonise Iran, change it into an American state actually, and deprive me of my desire to have Azerbaijanis and other minority groups given special rights that they are entitled to (as I believe). I would be happiest. God forbid, this doesn't mean anything but a hypothetical fantasy, because in reality nothing but war would come out of it.

So, what is all this nationalism about? Why are we fearful of foreigners anyway? What have we got that foreigners want to take away? Is it our oil? All Western states BUY oil from the Middle East. They don't take it away by force. They buy it at market price. Is it our culture? What culture my Iranian brothers and sisters? Do we have culture? I didn't see much of a culture in Iran and I was mostly living in Azerbaijan of Iran (so you cannot blame me of being anti-Fars, which I have never been).

Whenever I go back to Iran I still don't see culture. What culture is that where you cannot trust almost anybody. They all act on your behind. Iranians love being dishonest. They brag about it. Iranians proudly talk about how they stole this and that, did this and that to another Iranian. And they do all this indiscriminately, whether the counterpart is a Fars, a Turks, or anything else. After having fooled or defrauded another Iranian, the Iranian Turk may say that he was dealing with an "annamaz Fars" and the Fars after having done the same thing may say that his counterpart was a "Torke khar".

But that is irrelevant. They do all their dishonest and indecent acts indiscriminately. How many times have you heard Americans act and talk like this? Not often. Honesty is a Western virtue, while trust is an immense Western value.
So, what is all this obsession about Iran, Iranian culture, and protecting Iran against foreigners? When I write about the root causes of these problems Iranians get angry. When I write about the problems themselves, they get angry. Some of them actually agree with me but I know they are in the minority.

One of the root causes of Iranian backwardness is actually the simple belief of belonging to a superior race (Aryan race), and this has been what I have often talked about, and as a result insulted so many times.
Being an Iranian definitely isn't about anything great. It is just a fact. It is an undeniable fact we need to live with. Another of the root causes of Iranians' problems is not Islam, but the belief that it is Islam.

But this belief is not shared by the majority of Iranians, but by the majority of the Iranian diaspora, who have unfortunately evolved less than they could (I guess). What was Iran before Islam that it couldn't be after? Let's not forget that almost all cultural and scientific works that are out there, left to us today, from Iranians, have been achieved AFTER Islam. Most of them have been written in Arabic. Are we sure that there were many such works before Islam? I need proof. I haven't seen much proof.

But one thing is clear, science evolved best under Arab Muslim patronage and it was written in Arabic by Arabs or non-Arabs, while literature evolved best under Turk Muslim patronage and it was written in Farsi by Persians or non-Persians. So, Muslims have done a lot of good. They did fall drastically behind the West ever since industrialisation, but that does not mean Islam brought misery to Iran and other places. That is simply running from realities.

I am not a religious person myself. I never go to mosque. I never pray or fest. These are personal issues. So, I hope I don't get, again, accused of being paid by the Iranian Islamic regime. (how funny, I have been able to get paid by Israel, America, and also the IRI... wouldn't be so bad if it was true).
Does Iran's "glorious" history mean anything? Is that worthy of being protected against foreign plotters?

If it was up to me to decide I would have erased all mentions about Iran's long history for a couple of hundreds of years in which Iranians would learn to live honest lives and work hard and build a modern society, believing that they are backward and relatively naive in their belief that they are different. But this can be nothing but a joke.
This is not Iran-bashing. This is a reality. I wouldn't want anything bad for Iran, from my point of view, simply because I have my relatives there.

But we must first face realities before being able to move forward and improve things. I don't know exactly which ones are most important or most urgent to address, but addressing them we should. We have blamed others for too long for the short-comings of Iran. And believing that Iranian or Persian culture, history, or alike are anything great to talk about, I would prefer talking about Iran's present-day realities.

And that is because we are the way we are, intolerant, accusing, and not least, backward. This is not about each individual, but about the whole community. We have been unable to adopt Western values that have been far more superior. Instead of accepting freedom of expression, the Iranian diaspora, running away from their own short-comings, prefers to talk about how terrible Xerxes was shown in the movie 300. I'm sure he didn't look much better than the guy who was shown in the film. Beside all the strange jewelry, he was actually a pretty good-looking guy.


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What about all this aggresion?!

by I (not verified) on

Why are some Iranians so angry at Mr Madadi? I didn't find anything offensive! Iranians should get used to people who have different opinions and respect them as such.


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What about all this aggresion?!

by I (not verified) on

Why are some Iranians so angry at Mr Madadi? I didn't find anything offensive! Iranians should get used to people who have different opinions and respect them as such.


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Iran-our home

by Tebrizi 123 (not verified) on

There is a little bit misunderstanding i thing,thus even the azerbaijani turks have "iranian" roots it doesnt mean that they must not to improve their languages and customs.And second thing the term "nationallity" is new term i dont belive 1000 years ago there was any kind of nationallity understanding.I am very glad that my people (actually there is no "pure" nation) have different caucasian,iranian,turkic ethnic roots.It makes our culture richer.But the question is How do they express themselves?Caucasians?Iranians?or Turks?
As all of us know they identify themselves as Turks(tork).And "iranian" term only political term and its national identity of my people but not ethnic one.Personally i dont see any problem between two people,azerbaijanis are well integrated into iranian society,they have very close religous,cultural ties.
This problem stem from iranian governance system,and includs all ethnic minorities,kurds,arabs,beluchs,turkmens,qashqais etc.
Political system must at last understand that all
these people are iranians and citizens of Iran.There
are mustnot be any privileges for some people because
of their ethnicity.The rules must be general and must include every citizen of Iran. Thats all!
Azerbaijani people demand cultural rights but not only for themselves and also for other minorities.


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All Iranians

by Not Tabrizi (not verified) on

Dear tabrizi friend, i am not azari, but i strongly believe that iran belongs to all iranians irrespective of their ethnicity, religion, and language. Once an "iranian" regime is in place, they will respect all ethnicities equally and allow them to freely choose their language and religion among other thing. Azarbaijan has been at the heart of iranian civilization since ancient times, and azaris are really a mix of migrating turks and local persians that started after islam, some 1000 years ago. only misguided people would seek separation from motherland for their own personal benefit and agenda, but respect in all forms for all iranians, absolutely.


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Is Azerbaijan worse than IRI 2?

by Tebrizi12 (not verified) on

Since Pahlavi rejime/dynasty in Iran there is promotion of persian "high culture",in the govermental level there are exist an effort to assimilate or at least to make ethinc minorties feel themselves as guests or "second" type citizines.
Of course Azerbaijani is not banned offically,azerbaijani people are well integrated into Iran.But it doesnt mean that we dont have any problems in ethnic/cultural context.
Yes,there are some newspapers,TV and broadcoasts provided by goverment,is it enough?
Azerbaijani people want to speak in their language in local adminstative level.whats the problem?my people are citizen of Iran,and its their home.They are loyal to Iran.But editor inchief of Seda write something separatist statements in his article.Actually i thing he was provoked by Iranian special security bodies.In the south region of Azerbaijan
there are significant number of ethnic Talysh people,they are part of Azerbaijani national identity.They do speak talysh language in schools,university, even in army(although its not offical).demand of our people is very simple-to use
Azerbaijani language in local adminstative level,in schools,universities,theatres,cinemas.
Concerning the Turkey,i can only say go and see,how they live and live our compatriots in Iran.Please dont confuse topics,we are talking about Iran and situation of ethnic minorities in Iran,not in Turkey.
Hope to see Iran free and democratic ,one day.Inshalla........


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colonilization is not equal to democracy

by Anonymous Coward (not verified) on

If your statement is true then all countries in Africa would be full blown democracies today.

Has the American invasion helped to bring about democracy in Afghanistan or Iraq? Has the American invasion helped to decrease the ethnic tension in Afghanistan or Iraq? In some cases it has had the opposite effect even. I am glad that the tyrants of both this countries are gone but their problem is still there.

Nobody can do your work for you. It is the job of people of Iran to fix their problems. We have to fight with thoughts and action, and sacrifice our lives for democracy, just like the brainwashed fundamentalists give their lives for a theocracy.


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Badly Uninformed

by 7000 years (not verified) on

Mr. Madadi (or whatever your name is),

You are badly uninformed. One minute you are pro-occupation of iran because iranians don't know how to run their affairs (by implication, are thus of inferior breed only now after 7000 years of written history), and the next minute you are pro-arab. I don't know your identity, but you are definitely not iranian by soul. Here is a brief response only to your last comment: University of London has a series of publications on particular aspects of iranian history which imply a progressive pre-islamic nation (of that time), that contradict your last assertion. Next time that you are in a major bookstore, make a visit to Greek section and see how many books there are from ancient Greece (a tiny city state -- Barnes and Noble has a whole section devoted to such books, very impressive), and see if you can find anything similar from iran, a vast empire of that time? Nothing at all. Then read arab historians' work (e.g., ibne khaldoun) or our own tarikhe-tabari to find out why? They were all burned, first by alexander THE GREAT(!), and then by the invading arab armies. Not very different from what taleban used to do just a few years back (not much has changed in 1400 years) Read a book and leave iranian affairs to iranians. BTW, Avesta has not survived in whole, only a small part of it has survived. Do you know why? Because all religious books were extracted from atashkadehs and burned as arabs established themselves all over the country; mobeds were killed if they did not surrender the books or did not pay jaziyeh in their very own country.


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Actually in Iran,

by Anonymous3 (not verified) on

Actually in Iran, Azerbaijani is not banned. There are state broadcost,radio, movies as well nonstate books,newspapers,music and etc. Azerbaijani is not banned in IRI and there are courses in university, summer courses and newspapers. But recently Talysh newspaper seda was banned and its editor was jailed.

Also calling turks "khar" goes back to the Ottomons. Azerbaijanis make similar jokes about Kurds and in every part of Iran there are such jokes.. these are not serious.

Either way both Iran and Azerbaijan seem to be better than turkey.


Ben Madadi

Reply about pre-Islam Iran

by Ben Madadi on

I have read history quite a lot. Some person said that there is historical recount of burning some library after Arabs conquered Iran. These things happened all over the qorld. Libraries have been burnt all over the world. Some books have disappeared altogether while others haven't. Plato's books have survived though very very old. Homer's writings have survived to this day though about 2700 years old. Thee may have been some scientific workd done by Persians etc that were distroyed by the Arabs but great works usually survive because they are also translated into other languages. Indian stories and books thousands of years ols have survived to this day. I am not saying there was no serious Persian/Iranian books before Arab/Islamic invasion. I simply have no proof. THe book in the libraries that were bunrt may have been translations of Plato's works or books from Mespotamia or other places, or they could have simply been religious books, Avesta for example (that also survives).


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Watch out.

by Angry Shahmirzadi (not verified) on

"They all act on your behind"

I think you got it wrong, somewhat. It's just all Ghazvinis who would do such a thing!

Since others have already acted on your "behind" by discussing the fallacy of your pronouncements, I won't say much other than this: Safa-yeh Irani is rare amongst other Cultures.


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Is Azerbaijan worse than Iran?

by Anonymous12 (not verified) on

Hey ben or constitutionalist..
fact is fact. Turkey/Azerbaijan are the most racist, fascist and ethnic cleansing republics in the region. Reedam tooyeh halgheh har dotaashoon.

This is a nonsense and slander toward democratic Azerbaijan.Still some nationalistic Iranians see Azerbaijan as threat for Iran.I belive that the person who say Azerbaijan is "racist" doesnt know anything about Azerbaijan.Thus, main ethnic groups such as russians,jews,talysh,lezgins are able to live as they want.Talysh language ( talysh people are Iranian speaking )is not banned in Azerbaijan like Azerbaijnai in Iran(azerbaijani is banned in IRI) .There are schools in Talysh,Lezghi,russian.there are tv broadcost,radio,books,newspapers,theatre performances in these languages,these people are represented in parlament.And i have never heard someone call talysh,or russian as "khar" or "russian khar".
This kind of things are not usual for Iran.
Azerbaijani people have very close ties with Iran,we are actually very close to each other culturally.
Be the change guys.


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Bravo

by shohresh (not verified) on

I'm sad that a in country so rich in culture, the racism exist. I'm sick n tired to hear credits that Iran is all about persians. Once we kurds rises up we suddenlly become hamvatans. untill there is division between us, this will continue and god forbid to an extreme condition (separatism).


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Ben go-ahead

by Voice of Tabriz (not verified) on

Go ahed Ben.We are with you.Bravo !!! Very interesting arguments.
Its time to destroy steorotipes/superstitions in our minds.
Let s be not "great" but modern/free nation.


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I won't trade Iran with 100 Indias either

by Rezaii (not verified) on

even if you throw in 100 Pakistans (another of your favorite British colonies) as bonus (or any other Brit colony in that region -- should I list them?). iran is for iranians and for them to build it and decide her destiny. Being from the land of humanists like Sa'adi and Hafiz is enough to make me honored to be iranian, even in such difficult times. The problem is that those who are running iran today are certainly not iranian by practice, or else they would not have brought the country and her citizens into such disastrous situation... Iran has endured so much and has yet survived, this will pass too...


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Hey ben or

by Anonymous2 (not verified) on

Hey ben or constitutionalist..
fact is fact. Turkey/Azerbaijan are the most racist, fascist and ethnic cleansing republics in the region. Reedam tooyeh halgheh har dotaashoon.


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disagree with most but agree with some

by Kermanshani (not verified) on

I thought we Iranians are tolerant people. Just because we don't agree we don't need to be hash with that person and accuse him coz then we are leveling ourself with him. It's his view and I don't agree with him at some degree. Long live kermanshan ;)


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Liar Ben

by Stop more wars & murders (not verified) on

Ben-I-hate-Iranians wrote: "Man Farsi ham kheyli khub harf mizanam ....." (end of quote). So? so do some of those who are trying to hurt Iran. a) either you're an agent in disguise, or b) you're a screwed up and ignorant racist jerk (most likely a). Now, you're trying to justify that it's good for Iran to be bombed, ruined, chopped up in pieces, and to become a colony. Agar man ham Ebree khoob harf meezanam, would that make me an Israeli?


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Wrong compare

by somebody (not verified) on

Hey ben,
You cant compare the Britain with iran. Iran is passing one of the worst time in his history.Then you sitt there and you think this is cartoon.
Chandi pish didam ke young european plays games, as a soldires who fights with persian army in jearuselam. Modaty ziyad nist ke filme 300 ham be teather umade. We ( who are living outside ) dar haale talash baraaye aazaady iraan hastim va chon alaghemand be IRAN hastim iranian.com estefaadeh meekonim. US and allierte are probably going to bomb iran, and then dar doonyaaye fantasy khoodet nezhaad-parasty va .. parvaresh meedi. now you tell me who needs help here? ehsaase WESTERN age meekoni its ok amaa be sharaayete IRAN joor nemeeyaad. Your articles makes " dooshmany " not freindship. In hamme neveshte injaa gozahste shoode to faghat fohsh khoondy. cheraa pasookhe doroost nadaadi be neveshtehaa, dalilesh in nist ke savaadesho nadari? Why dont you realise that you need help and finish this juwish-aryan stoff, Iranian juwish are iranian too.. who knows who was my parents, maybe theirs parents are iranian ( aryan ) too. Iran should be proud of its nation like all other nations too. Britains colony is one of the worst in history page cause they didnt respected human right, but they are proud of being british. I hops this is not yassin to you ..moteasefaane midunam ke hast


Nader

So Madadi is not even your real name?!?!?

by Nader on

You have NO self respect whatsoever then!

Stop writing man, or t least don't shove up our throats!

Who told you that you write well?

Your mother?

You are a disgrace man. As simple as that!


mrclass

you are messed up

by mrclass on

My god how much rubbish can you write. Talking about diarrhea. By the way I thought you were going to write your stuff now in Azerbaijani language (as an oppose to Azarbiajani I suppose) so what happened to that? No takers? I don’t think you are an agent of Islamic sewer republic or Israel. I think you are a very misguided person with major psychological problems. You need a doctor and medicine. Personally you should be shot for wanting Iran to become colony of U.S or colony of any other country! shame on you! If our ancestors didn’t fight colonization you will be speaking Arabic now.


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Do not rely on Mao. He also

by Anon (not verified) on

Do not rely on Mao. He also proposed and executed the "Great leap forward", which screwed China with famine and killed about 40 million of his countrymen :)


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The issue is not your writing but your lack of knowledge

by Anonymous123 (not verified) on

The issue is not your writing. We all know it sucks. It is lack of your knowledge. You should not open your mouth just because you know how to talk. Mao said that 50 years ago.

Do some research.

P.S. This is teh diversity you were looking for.


Ben Madadi

Reply!

by Ben Madadi on

That article of mine was just something quite different from what I usually write, and if Jahanshah decided to publish it, then be it!

I will never reveal my identity but everybody is free to ignore my existence. Jahanshah publishes my stuff because of two simple (or maybe complex) reasons:

1) They are controversial

2) Iranian.com needs diversity

None of the above is bad. People need to learn to live with disagreeing with others. Just look at all the "fuck" word mentioned here addressing me! I am asking you, if we don't criticise ourselves who will? Why would a British, or an Israeli, criticise us? They would rather praise us, then ride us after having softened us, right? Can you blame them for that? No. I cannot blame someone for being smart. I cannot blame myself, and ourselves, for being stupid. This is just a website folks. I like writing. So what is the big deal? We could have had constructive dialogue and long discussions if we didn't have "fuck" and other stuff. They don't bother me, but they don't let room for discussions. Why is my true identity relevant? Don't you think it would be risky for me? I think so. Man Farsi ham kheyli khub harf mizanam va dar tamame omram yek bar ham dar Israel nabudam va hich dakhl-o rabetei ba Yahudiha nadaram va tamame khanevadeye man, mesle aksare Iraniha, Mosalmane Shie hastand.


Ben Madadi

I am desperately looking for ONE supporter :))

by Ben Madadi on

I am desperately looking for ONE single supporter. If I don't find ONE single supporter then I am going to convert into a whole-blooded lover of everything past or present Iranian and never criticise anything but to praise everything, everything. So, one single supporter, please come forward and show yourself.

P.S. I can also make up accounts and support myself ;)


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Attacking Iran

by Thomas (not verified) on

I am an American from New York City. Your leader is in my city today for UN talks. We denied him access to ground zero, the site where the World Trade Center once stood. I believe our current government has made many mistakes. If it's true that Iran is building IED's in Iraq, then we should bomb you. You have no business killing American soldiers. They have not attacked you. Haven't the muslims learned anything from OUR cold war with Russsia? Why do you need a nuclear bomb? If you are simply building reactors for energy, then let the UN inspect it fully. Your pride will end up destroying you. There are many young people in Iran. I'm sure they would rather have a good job, a nice car, a pretty girlfriend/boyfriend and a nice apartment to live in, instead of a war or sanctions of islamic fundamentalists controlling your life. America is not perfect. Our president is the worst ever. But the American people are kind and good. If the Muslims in the middle east denounce us as the Great Satan, then they should look at their behavior. They're the ones who treat women like slaves. I believe Iran and American can live together, peacefully, and create a business relationship. Your president should worry more about creating jobs, then wasting money on bombs.


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Mr. Madadi, If you could

by Mew (not verified) on

Mr. Madadi,
If you could reveal your real identity and somehow a brief biography, you would attract more respect due to transparency.

I can not help but read a subtle sense of inferiority complex in all your writings (for example, The Art of Getting Some). Without any attemp at being judgemental, could this be a personal issue within yourself that you are trying to extrapolate to the broader Iranian community?

As an example, there is a lady, named Azam Nemati, who wtites on this site and describes her beauty a lot. She often lectures on how to date an Iranian woman. However, one look at her pictures, coupled with some investigation into her bitter divorce about 20 years ago, and you realize the root cause of her comments.

Since we have no idea who you are, it is impossible to draw conclusions on whether you have personal problems, or you are simply trying to open doors into new arguments.


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Iranian Civilization

by Vahraz Yazdanmehr (not verified) on

Ben,

Even though I previously commented on this article, and even though this latest rant of yours is too incoherent to deserve a response, I do feel compelled, for the benefit of your unfortunate readers at least, to shed some light on the whole myth of Arab invaders bringing science and culture to Persia post Muslim invasion.

First, as anyone can tell you (ask around, or better yet, try reading a book) Muslim invaders who came from the Arabian Peninsula did not have a history of science and literature. In fact, the Quran was their first ever book. To the contrast, Iranians of the Persian Empire (including Azeri Iranians from what is today Azerbaijan) had a well established track record in literature and science, which included chemistry, astronomy, medicine and physics. The great Royal Library which was attached to the Royal Palace (the White Palace as it was known then because it was pained in white) in what is today called Ivan-e-Madaen or Tagh-e-kasra contained volumes of books written by Persian scientists as well as illustrations by Persian artists.

Ibn Khaldoon, the great Arab historian, writes in his book that when Muslims took over the White Palace after defeating the Persian army, Saad, the commander of the Muslim forces, wrote to Omar, the Caliph, and told him about the Royal Library and the wealth of science and information that was found in its volumes of books. Not being used to books, and considering it blasphemy to read anything other than the Quran, Saad asked Omar what he should do with the contents of the library. Omar, in turn, replied that since the Quran was the only book that they needed, they should either throw the contents of the library in the water or they should burn them, upon which order every book in that library was burnt. Even Ibn Khaldoon expresses his regret at the loss of such "wealth of knowledge".

Second, a culture such as that of the Arabian Peninsula at the time, by its nature was incapable of fostering such an expansion of knowledge and science throughout the newly established Muslim empire. In other words, how can a culture that is so devoid of any scientific, artistic and literary accomplishment bring the same to other people? The answer is that it did not. Rather, the only contribution of Muslims toward the advance of science and knowledge within the Muslim empire was its bringing of the cultures together and facilitating the exchange of ideas among what was mainly ethnocentric and closed tribal societies. The imposition of a common language upon these societies also helped the advance of knowledge and facilitated the exchange of ideas, and that-not the scientific contribution of the Arabs of the Arabian Peninsula-contributed to the so-called golden age of the Muslim empire.

Third, when it comes to Persia, we had all of these accomplishments before Islam, but as explained above, records of those accomplishments were destroyed forever by the Muslim invaders. So the whole idea that Muslim invaders were the ones who brought us knowledge is fundamentally flawed and represents the winner's version of history that has been imposed upon us for 1400 years. Undoubtedly, Muslim invaders, and their Iranian sympathizers who re-wrote our history post Muslim invasion want us to believe the ideas that you propagate, but those of us who read and research history on our own, can see the truth. We had science and knowledge before Islam, and were pretty good at it, but we don’t know about those accomplishments because records of those accomplishments were destroyed by invaders.

In sum, stop writing this gibberish. You are neither a writer, a historian, an economist, a sociologist nor even an expert in ethnic Azeri matters as you portray yourself to be. If I were to guess, I would guess that you have never read a single history book about Iran. It is extremely unfortunate for Iranian.com to allow a racist stooge like you to publish this nonsense.


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Mr Madadai, you are an idiot!

by Farshad (not verified) on

People are busting your ass here then you claim that majority agree with you?
Take your head out of your ass and smell the shit!
You are indeed one arrogant piece of garbage!
And "NO". I don't agree with your crap!


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You are fucking wrong

by Anonymous123 (not verified) on

Your comment is wrong. First tell me how the hell you define democracy. India is one of the worst countries. Over 700 million people from lower class do not even count in their society. They can not attend school, live in upper or middle class neighborhood, get a middle class job, etc. So if you think it is a great democracy then why don't you live there? Have you ever been there? Indians defecate in the middle of street in New Deli.

Iran is a great culture. We were held back for couple of hundred years because of Ghajar and Pahlavi. As you and your fucking friends can see we have made huge progress since the Iran-Iraq war ended.

Who the fuck is you living outside of Iran and criticizing Iran. Shut the fuck up and do some studying before opening your big fucking mouth.


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we have not been able......

by faribors maleknasri M.D. (not verified) on

Wrong.
We have been able to resist to get conquered by western so called culture. The true culture is ours. Do not forgett.
My friendly greetings


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