$2 million lawsuit against me

Mehdi Khalaji, with the backing of his friends at the Israeli lobby's think-tank, is trying to bankrupt me


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$2 million lawsuit against me
by hoder
05-Nov-2007
 

Mehdi Khalaji, an Iranian 'expert' at the Washington Institute for the Near East Policy (WINEP) has now officially filed a libel and defamation lawsuit against me in Canada and has claimed $2,000,000 damages. َQuite a modest champion of free speech, isn't he?

Why? Because I've been very critical about him serving the likes of Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, James Woosley and the rest of those filthy warmongers at the Washington Institute for the Near East Policy (WINEP), which was established by and is strongly associated with the Israeli Lobby's in the United States, according to Mearsheimer and Walt.

As a result, I have written that Khalaji, an advoacte of the economic warfare against Iran, is a traitor to his people and his country, as a result.
The new claims are again based on the same mistranslation of my writings on him which I exposed and refuted in length a while ago, when he threatened my hosting company (Florida-based Hosting Matters) that led them to promptly terminate the accounts I had with them.

Now apparently, with the backing of his friends at the Israeli lobby's think-tank, he is trying to bankrupt me by starting this silly legal procedure.
I would appreciate it if you could spread the word in your blogs or websites and also if you've got any tips on the right organisation or lawyer to approach. One way would be obviously Digging it.

Here is the full text of the claim if you like to see.
Here is also again his claims and my refutation. I wonder if the court had accepted the claim in the first place, had it known it was based on aa mistranslation of my writings:

These defamatory statements by Hossein Derakhshan directly and by innuendo:

a) state falsely that our client is a traitor to the government and people of Iran;

Mehdi Khalaji is hired by a think-tank, created by the Israeli lobbying group in the US (AIPAC)[1] and has openly advocated for military action[2] or economic sanctions[3] to overthrow the government of Iran[4]. Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz and James Woolsey, all strong advocates for regime change in Iran[5][6], are on its board[7].

Washington Institute for the Near East Policy (WINEP), Mr. Khalaji works for[8], has a clear agenda against Iran and that makes Mr. Khalaji, an Iranian citizen, a 'traitor' based on the definition of the word. (The American Heritage dictionary defines 'traitor' as “One who betrays one's country, a cause, or a trust.”[9])

b) state falsely that our client has worked for U.S. Vice-President Cheney's office; and by innuendo is a dupe or puppet of the U.S. government;

Mistranslated. The correct translation is that Mr. Khalaji “indirectly” and “through WINEP” gives advise to vice-president Cheney's office.

WINEP's director, Robert Satloff says that its products have been made accessible to “high-level Washington-based officials, prominent journalists, and senior diplomats.”[10] Vice-president's office is surly where many “high-level Washington-based officials” work and therefore WINEP's products, that includes Mr. Khalaji's contribution, reach Mr. Cheney's office.

There are also strong ties between WINEP and Cheney's office. For example, John P. Hannah, a deputy director of WNEP now serves[11] at a high position at the vice-president's office since 2001.

c) state falsely that our client has counselled the Vice-President of the United States of America to bomb our client's former offices in Iran;

Mistranslated. What I have written is that it is Mr. Cheney who wants to bomb Iran[12], not that Mr. Khalaji advises him to do so. Mehdi Khalaji has worked [13] as a section editor in a newspaper, titled Entekhab run by Taha Hashemi, a cleric appointee[14] of Ayatollah Khamenei in a government-funded organization related to the Qom's clerical school.

Mr. Khalaji wrote later in an article for the BBC Persian that the publishers of Entekhab had the personal support of Ayatollah Khamenei for the newspaper.[15]

A military attack on Iran surly could also destroy the building of Entekhab newspaper in central Tehran, where Mehdi Khalaji was once working.

d) state falsely that our client has counselled the Vice-President of the United States of America to bomb our thousands of men, women and children;

Mistranslated. Again, what I have written is that it is Cheney who wants to bomb Iran, not that Khalaji advises him to do so. Obviously thousands of men and women and children would be killed in a military strike against Iran.

e) state falsely that our client counsels enemies of Iran and of humanity;

Based on its output, it's clear that WINEP does not have a friendly policy toward Iran and openly advocates for regime change. So they are enemies of Iran and Khalaji counsels them.

Given the grave consequences of the illegal US-led invasion of Iraq, I believe those who supported and administered that invasion are enemies of humanity. At least two of these people, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle are on WINEP's board where Khalaji counsels and WINEP had repeatedly and openly supported the invasion.[16]

f) incites others to follow the defamer Hossein Derakhshan's lead by spitting in our client's face;

Mistranslated. The correct translation reads “I don't know what name you want to give this conscious intellectual contribution by Mr. Khalaji to the most merciless and dirtiest enemies of Iran and humanity. But I know that if someday I face him in person, instead of saying hello, I will through a big spit on his face.” There is nothing inciting others to do anything here.

g) state falsely that our client holds and publicizes the belief that political change is not possible from within Iran;

This is not false. Mehdi Khalaji finishes his presentation at the AFPC meeting with the following paragraph in which he bluntly rejects the possibility of reform (5' 55 form the video)[17]:

“The majority of people might not be [unclear word] to the political agenda of the government, but instead suffer from its policy and restrictions upon social freedom without possessing any concrete effective means for any change or reform. Idealism has been reconstructed not only in terms of government's perception of politics, but also in terms of citizens public ambitions. Thus, the regime seems to be more solid and stable as ever before. Therefore the prospect of the prospect for political change is dark.”

Moreover, in an interview with Radio Zamaneh he adds “well, for me the Islamic Republic is similar to Dariush Mehrjooie's film, 'Ejarehneshin-ha.' The owner of the building... doesn't permit any minor changes... Then what will happen? The whole building collapses.”[18]

 

h) state falsely that our client struggles to converse and express himself in the English language;

Mistranslated. Correct translation reads “Mehdi Khalaji, while sweating to read smoothly from the English translated text of his article.”

But it is true that Mr. Khalaji has problems, at least in terms of reading, pronunciation and intonation. The recorded video of his speech (mentioned above) clearly shows that Khalaji mispronounces or struggles to read and pronounces many words including 'entirety,' 'unprecedented' and ' judicial.'

i) state falsely that our client counsels the government of the United States of America to choose military action and economic sanctions against Iran, over and instead of diplomatic talks;

Mistranslated. The correct translation reads that Khalaji “tried to show why political change from within is impossible in Iran and therefore the U.S., in order to remove 'the increasing threat by Iran against world piece' should not negotiate with Iran. Instead, through economic sanctions (or implicitly even through military invasion if its it was feasible.)”

Khalaji said these words in a conference to an audience at the AFPC, not to the government. I didn't quoted from him, but sumerised in my own words what could he ultimately mean by his speech.

The words in quotation mark ('the increasing threat by Iran against world piece') refers to a widely used theme by the media and the politicians and by doing so I'm trying to mock the sterotypical aspect of those words.

j) state falsely that our client's academic research paper are in reality thinly veiled instruction manuals on how to locate and attack the weaknesses of the legitimate government of Iran;

In May 2006, Mehdi Khalaji says to a Wall Street Journal reporter “Western countries must push the internal conflicts inside the Iranian government.”[19]

In July 2007, in an article published on WINEP's website, Khalaji writes:

“For the West, there are many advantages if Iran's leadership is weakened by internal disputes. Such an Iran would be busier domestically and therefore less able to concentrate on foreign adventures. It would also be more aware of its weaknesses and therefore more likely to compromise. To be sure, a weak Supreme Leader would presumably have less authority to impose difficult compromises on objecting factions. That, however, seems like a price worth paying in order to see a less powerful revolutionary leadership.“[20]

k) state falsely that our client is a proponent of, and openly supports, civil unrest, revolution and a regime change in Iran through the use of the military, and violence if necessary; and

Mistranslated. I never implied Khalaji supports violent change. It is Khalaji's employer, the Washington Institute, who has advocated regime change through violence.

In February 2007, Jeffery White, a defence fellow at the Washington Institute, writes[21]:

“The choices for dealing with the Iranian challenge, both in and outside Iraq, are not clear, and the consequences of making the wrong choices are dire. But by the time the choices are clear, it will be too late for anything but acquiescence to the presence of a nuclear-armed Iran driven by hostility toward the West -- or a war to prevent it. “

But in his interview with Radio Zamaneh he explicitly advocates for a 'fundamental change', defining it as the removal of Ayatollah Khamanei, the Supreeme leader of the Islamic Republic, in a similar fashion to non-violent revolutions in Eastern Europe. He then adds that this fundamental change is “impossible without foreign assistance.”[22]

l) clearly evidence a personal vendetta being waged by Hossein Derakhshan against our client, under the guise of alleged "commentary."

Before Khalaji started working for the Washington Institute, I had written positive posts about him and his writings. [23] [24]

But since he started working for the neo-conservative Washington Institute with its clear agenda to overthrow the Islamic Republic, even through military action if necessary, I have been critical about Khalaji's contribution to such entity. The same way I have been critical of Mohsen Sazgera who was a fellow there before Khalaji. [25]

I have never met Khalaji and never had anything personal against him, either in public or private and what I have written about him is only based on his work.

At the same time, I am a established commentator on Iranian affairs. Aside from my bilingual blog that I have written in the past six years, I am a columnist for The Guardian[26], Washington Post[27] websites. My writings have also appeared on The New York Times[28], International Herald Tribune[29],, BBC News[30], Die Zeit[31], etc. and I have been interviewed by various print or broadcast media on Iranian affairs. [32]

  1. ^ //www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
  2. ^ //www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC05.php?CID=2520
  3. ^ //www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC04.php?CID=257
  4. ^ //www.washingtoninstitute.org/download.php?file=Soref2006.pdf
  5. ^ //www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=4200
  6. ^ //www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3422.htm
  7. ^ //www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC11.php?CID=133
  8. ^ //www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC10.php?CID=33
  9. ^ //www.answers.com/topic/traitor
  10. ^ //www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC11.php?CID=21
  11. ^ //rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/2926
  12. ^ //www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/18834.html
  13. ^ //news.gooya.eu/politics/archives/2007/04/058513.php
  14. ^ //www.shareh.com/new/persian/magazine/hawzah/61/01.htm
  15. ^ //www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/story/2005/08/printable/050803_mj-mkhalaji-qom-press.shtml
  16. ^ //www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC05.php?CID=1486
  17. ^ //www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAhLUjGPJ8Y
  18. ^ //www.radiozamaneh.org/special/2007/04/post_188.html
  19. ^ //www.opinionjournal.com/wsj/?id=110008382
  20. ^ //www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC05.php?CID=2638
  21. ^ //www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC05.php?CID=2567
  22. ^ //www.radiozamaneh.org/special/2007/04/post_188.html
  23. ^ //i.hoder.com/archives/2003/08/030805_007814.shtml
  24. ^ //i.hoder.com/linkdooni/2004_03.html
  25. ^ //i.hoder.com/archives/2005/03/050322_013794.shtml
  26. ^ //commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/hossein_derakhshan/index.html
  27. ^ //blog.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/hossein_derakhshan/
  28. ^ //www.nytimes.com/2006/01/28/opinion/28Derakhshan.html
  29. ^ //www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/30/opinion/edhossein.php
  30. ^ //news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4947354.stm
  31. ^ //www.zeit.de/2005/27/Iran
  32. ^ //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hossein_Derakhshan#References

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Hoder jan, you ahve done

by Khashayar* (not verified) on

Hoder jan, you ahve done nothing wrong, but pointing to some publicaly available facts about this guy that everybody knows already. That he works for the Israeli lobby's think-tank and Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz. We all know this means treason by any standard. So don't be disappointed by these Monarchist assholes leaving these comments. All my non-Monarchist friends admire your courage and independence. You have a lot of supporters, who are usually silent. Keep it up! You can win.


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remember idolizing idiot and fascist Khomeini

by on your face (not verified) on

Do you remember idolizing idiot and fascist Khomeini for us Iranians you piece of garbage? I hope this democratic court teaches you humanity so next time you would not ignore pain and sufferings of your fellow Iranians.


deev

About 4 years ago Hoder

by deev on

About 4 years ago Hoder falsely accused me of being a monarchist, now he messed with someone who unfortunately seems to care about what Hoder says so it's a case of dumb and dumber!


jamshid

Re: Hoder: pay attention...

by jamshid on

Hoder, if I were you, I would dismiss the law suit as a top priority in your life. You should start thinking of the long prison term that awaits you if this regime falls. If I were you, I would get a foreign country's citizenship for your life "after IRI", ASAP.

 

You traitor defend a regime that has suffocated its people with a ruthless and brutal dictatorship with censorship and supression of free speech to levels that would put even Hitler and Stalin to shame. Then you have the gulls to come here and complain about lack of freedom of speech?

 

What a hyporcrite bastard you are. I hope Khalaji kicks your butt in the court...


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Hoder, please counter-sue, you can win it or use it as bargain

by A. Friend (not verified) on

These cases can not only be won, but you can actually counter-sue. If Khalaji can't overcome freedom of speech barrier (which he can't), you have the right to sue him here in the US for monetary damages to your web operations and reputation, as well as claim that he is trying to silence your anti-war rhetoric. This last part is easy to prove because of the excessive $2M number since that can only be justified on the grounds of "scaring" you out of the public discourse arena.

Your defense in Canada is the "fair comment" doctrine. In "fair comment" you can even apply motivation to the target. The matter must be topical and of public concern (which a clear threat of war gainst Iran qualifies). He must also show personal malice (he admitted himself that he has never seen you and you have never met him. This helps prove that this is not out of personal malice that you are only reacting to his PUBLIC work.) Finally, you are allowed to ascribe motivation to the object of your comment. You just have to show that you truly believe his motivation to be pro-hostilities with Iran. Doesn't matter if he denies it. If you reasonably think his work makes war possible, it's a fair comment.

My personal assessment is that Khalaji is almost certainly doing this to silence the opposition. These suits are expensive and the outcome is usually not favorable to the plaintiff. The only way Khalaji can go through with it, is if his lawyer is paid for by the same pro-war elements that are bankrolling his work. YOu have a right to find this out too, if you file for it. There is also the additional factor that they can use the bogeyman "IRI" as a "threat" to Khalaji's life and thus make more negative pro-war publicity around this situation. This is well thought out on their part. But this is easly. You can easily point to figures much more public than Khalaji who do routinely criticize IRI from Washington and nothing happens to them. (Example: Alireza Jafarzadeh)

Go to the Canadian embassy and ask for citizen legal services. They may even have pro-bono lawyers available for you.


Kaveh Nouraee

You SHOULD Be Sued!

by Kaveh Nouraee on

Hoder,

 

 

You are just another of those people with a computer and an internet connection that think they are a writer or a journalist.

 

 

 

You confuse the freedom of speech with the act of libel, not fully understanding the specific line that separates the two.

 

 

 

Your host provider in Florida cut you off because they realized you were using them to disseminate information that you couldn't prove. If you were able to prove it, then you wouldn't have lost your host and you wouldn't be holding out your hand looking for donations to the Hoder Legal Defense Fund.

 

 

 

You can call Khalaji a jerk. You can say he misspells and mistypes. You can say you don't like him. You can't accuse someone of a particular act without having proof.


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Hoder is paying for what he did to so many innocent

by Alan (not verified) on

I don't know Khalaj, nor Hoder and this note should not allude as to any one's defense. What I know is that Hoder was defaming many people (the silent majority) most if not all with baseless accusations. Unfortunately we have not reach to a maturity to differentiate between fact and diction, ( we are so "dahan been") therefore his irresponsible writings hurt many innocent people. His bad mouthing were addressed to those who were/are against the Regime indiscriminately. Apparently, Hoder's attitude toward the Regime has changed drastically after his visit to Iran. What made him to change so drastically?, Some contribute it to his marriage to a daughter of one influential ayatollah/mullah. If one can search his pre and post visit to Iran, will see the drastic changes in his writing. I think every one should contribute of what they know so others learn that the facts will pop up sooner or later.


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I bet you don't have insurance on this either.

by American (not verified) on

We have personal insurance for this kind of suit. It's on our homeowners insurance. President Clinton had one and it really helped pay a lot of his legal costs during the suits that he fought. I advise people to look into these policies if you do any volunteer work or are on a board of any organization having any functions. You can have peace of mind against the angry people out there who sue because you lose one pair of dress slacks or call someone a traitor in print.


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If you did not do any wrong

by No one #2 (not verified) on

If you did not do any wrong doing with respect to Mr. khalaji then why you are so worry!!! On the other hand, if you did so then expect the consequences.

You cannot live a democratic society and enjoy and benefit every bit of the rights that the society grants you yet do not comply with the same roles if it works against you. We call people like you as opportunistic!!!


Mehdi

Antagonism

by Mehdi on

Maybe you should pipe down on your antagonism and be less excited. So the guy supports an attack on Iran. That's no reason to be nasty in your speech and bordeline threaten him. Try to not hate the person but what he stands for. Do you think you can do that? Besides, your writings seems to just specialize in antagonistic views. You need to also work on positive persuasion. Khalaji might be giving advice to neo-cons or agree with them or whatever. But he is not the main controlling power anyway. You seem to attack him more than neo-cons themselves. Spreading hatred is not really a solution. You just need to calm your nerves a bit and fight a more fair fight.


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A.H.

by Another Anonymous (not verified) on

If it is so lousy and crappy, why does Khalaji care? Why do you care? Because you disagree so you would rather he shut up. Go to hell with your judgment. You're part of the problem, not the solution.


The consequences of this case are important. People who think Iranians helping USA with economic warfare while letting Saudis and Kuwaitis get rich will not be spoken out against? That's sad. Ignore him and read only the best journalists in NY TIMES and Newsweek and keep quiet instead of coming down on Hoder


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Newage

by Alborzi (not verified) on

When the democrats took over the congress in 1988, when it finally came out all the leaks about Plame-Wilson, I thought
the neocons would crawl into a cave and shutup. This was not the case. In fact this is more typical of them. This Jewish professor at DePaul in Chicago (whose father was in concentration camp mind you) is sued by Dershowitz .
//www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294902,00.html
They remind me of Khomeini/Hitler/Stalin...., they were determined to get to power and purge those who could cause problems.


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why don\\\'t you explain

by Shemshaki (not verified) on

why don\\\'t you explain your daily visit with
IRI embassy in london?
we are all hears, any particular reason?
We would love to hear it.
and, also I would love to hear your take on
khamenei... you said he was what? a kheir-khaah
person? and khomeini is your hero?
you better come clean before asking for help,
other wise go ask your daddy asgar-owladi for help.


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no one

by persian (not verified) on

no one should be sued for expressing an opinion. what is wrong with poeple and "lawsuit"s?!!


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Get a life Hoder!

by A. H. (not verified) on

You are such a loser. I even feel such a waste of my time writing this but I just get annoyed by you and your lousy sentimental journalism so much that I can't stop reacting to this.

Khalaji is probably right, you and assholes like you should be shut up (yeah fuck your freedom of speech with a capital F!).Why don't go back to Iran and excercise your freedom of speech there with your beloved governemnt.


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Guys, are you kidding me?

by Reza khan (not verified) on

Guys, are you kidding me? You have apparently never read Hoder's blog to see his hatred towards Rafsanjani . It's ironic that he has been the most critical against those whom he calls Rafsanjanist, and yet be accused by funded by him. You guys are fucked up.


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Is Mehdi K. standing up against Hoder? No. Not really!

by Jesus Question (not verified) on

He should have defended himself earlier instead of showing off with legal action. But Khalaji couldn't defend himself.
jesus Either prove your Rafsanjani association about Hossein or else be another bulshitter who accuses people anonymously online..the new thing for iranians to do on the internet


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By the way...

by Jesus (not verified) on

I forgot to mention, my reply seemed harsh, so you can go head and sue me. My big daddy will burn you in the fire of hell.

Humanity's friend
the Big J


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Hossein Derakhshan is a Hezbollahi Loser

by pahlevan (not verified) on

This loser believes that Khomeini was a hero, the same khomeini who said, I quote, "We do not worship Iran; We worship Allah. Patriotism is another name for paganism; I say let this land of Iran burn, I say let this land go up in smoke provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world". I am no fan of Neo-conservatives but anyone is better than this 'Bacheh Hezbollahi'; So I say go to hell Hossein, you don't deserve sympathy of Iranians, I hope you lose this lawsuit.


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You deserve it

by Jesus (not verified) on

Those who defend a government that not only has no respect for free speech, but kills, and executes human beings like street rats have no rights to lecture the rest of us on free speech. YOu are the biggest degenerate Iranian I have had the unfortunate luck to come upon the net. You are a IR thug, and you deserve to be sued. Don't lecture us about free speech, just make sure you understand what it is.
Free speech does not mean, speech without responsibilty. You can say what you want, and you did. No body whipped your degenerate ass, like they would in Iran. No one threatened to kill you. But free speech comes with a price. If you accuse people of being traitors, and such, they have as much right to sue your sorry ass, and gladly they did.

Now it is big time for you to go and kiss the big, fat ass of mullah boss rafsanjani. I am sure he has stolen plenty of cash from the poor people of Iran to pay your legal fees.

By the way, you are such a pussy, if you can not take the heat, stay out of kitchen. Don't accuse and criticize people if you can not handle it. This is not Iran, where your bosses roam and free, and pick on the poor and defenseless people. YOu bite more than you could chew, finally somebody stronger has the guts to stand up to you sorry asses.
It is one thing to criticize policies, and ideologies, it is another thing to attack people personally, and you do that very well. You happen to use the same lexicon as IR to accuse your opponents.
That is why I will also treat you like the shit that you are.


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You deserve it bache aghazadeh

by Hooman (not verified) on

Hey hoder your dads bodies in Qom can hook you up with some dough to fight in court. But i hope you loose because from what i see you are another IR employee. Go to Hell.


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So you better see all the

by Reza khan (not verified) on

So you better see all the references first and then try to have an opinion. So Iranian of you!


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we better not take sides

by Jassem Ghaderi (not verified) on

They are both hezbollahi lets not take any sides,
let tire each other down.
It is not our fight. any of them loses it is a win.


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والله چی بگم

دختر احمد شاه (not verified)


شما قیافت بیشتر میخوره که راست بگی. اون یک کمی به دزدا میزنه، کچل هم که هست دیگه واویلا!!!


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hossein joon, ask your baba

by Anonymous1234 (not verified) on

hossein joon,

ask your baba or Rafsanjani to send you money.


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to XerXes

by Javad Agha (not verified) on

Hey zerzeroo, Eye-ranians cannot unite you are all mooftkhor.


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I am glad to see

by Koorosh sasanian (not verified) on

I am glad to see two hezbolahi are fighting each other. keep at it.


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Iranians Unite

by XerXes (not verified) on

Iranians should unite during times that the West and Western wanna be want to hurt Iran or start a war, so they know who they are dealing with. We never can be as rich as AIPAC but we can be as powerful, just unite. Let's become a national fist for those who want to bully Iran.


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I forgot to add

by Javad Agha (not verified) on

You are a mooftkhor too, and I am happy that
khalaji sued you, I hope he wins, you people
living in the west must learn to be accountable
derakhshan you are 100% mooftkhor.
Viva khalaji.


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because you are dumb!

by no_name (not verified) on

I am sorry about the law suit. But, as anyone who has ever seen the news, you should have been smarter with your choice of words.

Use "allegedly" or "as reported by" or "as documented on" when you make allegations. Anytime the cops catch anyone here the news reports it as, "cops have caught the alleged rapist". And this is for this exact reason.



This has nothing to do with free speech and everything with you not knowing the legal system!



Anyone who writes a blog should just be careful.




Last year I read about this zionofascist (I would not mention his/her name) who is just a loud mouth blogger and sued this Palestinian blogger for criticism. Allegedly, the zionofascist blogger took a screenshot of the Palestinian guy's blog, modified the screen capture in photoshop with additional writings to make a strong case for himself, then took the guy into small claim court, claimed the Palestinian blogger's writings has caused him loss of business and won $6-7k.




zionofascists are one of most cunning (they all praise their King David, read how cunning he was) and evil people I have ever known and you have to be as cunning to go against them. GOOD LUCK!


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