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You know what I say all the time. That if the US media wanted to get rid of the Seyyeds, they can do it in a week.

Ali Mostofi

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Ali and Shah Gollam, may remind you that...

almost all of the Iranian "journalists/reporters" that you have mentioned so far, DO work for the American corporate media!

That's all I had to say.

Shah Ghollam Ba Dorood I

Shah Ghollam

Ba Dorood

I think it would be quite beneficial, if someone were to look at all the Iranian correspondents, as you have. For example, I hold Ali Akbar Dareini of AP responsible for most of the mess were are in.

Dareini's total disregard and misrepresentation of Iranians outside Iran as an alternative force for the past thirty years has been diabolical.

The Iranians who are in the media have a cultural duty to perform. They are our representatives. They are our intelligensia. They have done such a bad job, that "Citizen Journalist" was born, when they were all ordered to stay in their plush hotel rooms during the so called election this summer.

Ironically it helped the cause when they were told to shut up. Citizen Journalist, equipped with Twitter has taken over now, because of the likes of Dareini and I forgot that total wacko (even more than me and my astrology) called Afrasiabi.

So please, someone, do a review of these journalists, and let them be put in the open once and for all.

Ali Mostofi

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Ali Mostofi

So our problem folks is our problem. We need to get our act together. Amanpour, if your are reading this, I know you from the days of British School, and you should be acting differently.

Another man with wise words! Thanks for your comment.

As for Amanpour, she does what she is expected of. She is married to a pro Israeli infuential jew. She has been having a total different interviewing style with Iranian government officials and another with the West and Israeli officials. No way in her dream any American president/official would grant her any interview if she would question them the same way and respect she questions Iranian officials. She has a Maverick style reputation, however, that style is only reserved for Iranians in general. She becomes a taimed mouse when she interviews Israeli/American officials. She has the position she has because she is used as a tool for preserving American/Israeli agenda in the mainstream media.

CNN did not say, that most

CNN did not say, that most Iranians would have preferred the money on nukes to have been put to non-violent social needs of Iran.

CNN did not say, that the Khamenei Seyyeds are an isolated fanatical group, totally disprected even amongst the Green Seyyeds, when it comes to nukes.

CNN did not say many things, because the Iranian intelligensia abroad, eg: most of you, have not bothered to express your unity from one source, which CNN would refer to, before it wrote such an article.

CNN has many Iranians working for it such as Amanpour who could have prevented such rubbish to be written.

So our problem folks is our problem. We need to get our act together. Amanpour, if your are reading this, I know you from the days of British School, and you should be acting differently.

Ali Mostofi

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Ex

You also got my appropriate response in that link.

Just in case you didn't get my point, public forums such as this one are not private rooms to have directed discussions, at least not the way you expect, a one to one discussions. If this is what you think, your best bet is to move on. You have already tried Arab forums, then I suggest to move to an Israeli forum where they will love your existance, simply because you speak their language quite well I must say!!!!!

Here, you express a nonesense opinion (which you have several times already in the past couple of days alone) you will hear opposing views loud and clear. Again, if you expect otherwise, I suggest Israeli forums. But when you leave please take Kashani with you. You will be accepeted faster when you show up with one of them!

Dan, In order to

Dan,

In order to understand an act of a regime, you have to understand, and be truthful to yourself, the regime’s nature. Then, everything else becomes easy, you don’t have to guess, you don’t have to listen to propaganda, you don’t have to let others tell you how to think. You have to understand its goals, its aspirations and its intentions.

IRI regime is a kniving, war mongering, fundamentalist, religious Fascist regime. Its whole existence is based on fabrication of truth and reality. It is a mixture of Leftist and fundamentalist religious philosophy, the worst possible combinations. You and I know that nuclear bombs don’t bring security or ensure the permanent survival of the regime, but they don’t! Please try to look at this issue from their point of view, not yours. They don’t understand it because they lack the ability to think rationally. How many other atrocities they have to commit for you guys to understand that IRI is irrational? IRI believes that acquiring nuclear weapons is a sign of power, and will ensure its survival from a foreign attack because it knows it has done nothing but make enemies in the 30 years it has been in power. It knows that very well, and most importantly, it does not have confidence in itself, that’s why it’s making these irrational decisions.

Dan, the world has changed dramatically in the last 10-15 years. Some folks who still live in the 20th century cold war era world, think having “weapons” is dangerous, because they still fear a nuclear winter, and that’s why they bash America and Israel and UK and France (Of course they never bash Russia and China cause they are “closer to their heart”!) for having them. However, what we have seen in the last 30 years, and most importantly the last 10 years or so, with the rise of an entire generation of Islamic youth inspired and brainwashed by IRIs religious doctrine and propaganda, is that box cutters prove more effective than nuclear weapons. Box cutters on 9/11 changed the world, not nuclear weapons. Why is that so hard to understand? If you are determined in your mind to cause substantial damage, you don’t need to have nuclear bombs, all you need is “box cutters and home made bombs”. So, the real threat in today’s world is not responsible countries with nukes, but it’s the ideology of hate and ideology of clash of civilizations and ideology of  Islamic fundamentalism, all perpetuated by IRI.

As far as you’re questions to me is concerned, yes, absolutely IRI is after nukes, no question about it. However, I never said IRI will nuke Israel or use it itself, it is too coward to do that. However, what a nuclear IRI will do is embolden it and ensure its survival for a few more days, not permanently, but few more days. And those few more days could be another 9/11 in the making. I have always said, the world should not go after IRI for its nuclear program, but if the world is engaged in war against terrorism, well, it should go after IRI for its promotion and inspiration and support for terrorism. That’s where IRIs threat comes from.

Now, most importantly, the reason that we are here telling the world that IRI is after nukes is because we are countering IRIs propaganda saying “its not after nukes”. Because that will make IRI righteous, and IRI is the last government in the history to be thought as righteous, and we cant afford for it to look righteous. So although IRI will not use the bomb, but it is perusing the bomb, and we have to make it clear that it is IRI who is lying and deceiving, not America or IAEA or others misinforming the world about IRI.

I replied to you

I replied to you here:

//iranian.com/main/news/2009/10/20/iran-t...

I have nothing against you personally. But I've got 5 years experience arguing on Arab blogs about this stuff, and they've got the routine down much better than you do. And I don't even read Arab blogs much anymore. Why would I want to get into some second rate version of discussions I lost interest in quite some time ago? This kind of fundamental disagreement on moral issues can never get resolved. You think you are right and I think I am right. If we can't leave it at that we'll have to kill eachother to make our points. 

For what its worth, I was asking Abarmard that question, not you. He seems to be somewhat respected on this website so I was a bit surprised to see him say something like that about Hezbollah. That's jihadi talk, not peace advocate talk.

If that is your definition

Hezbollah and HAMAS both have a long history of delberately targetting and victimizing innocent people for ideological reasons. If that doesn't qualify as terrorism for you, then it is you who has the flawed understanding of the term.

If that is your definition for "terrorism", it is totally fine with me. But, according to your definition Israel, US, UK, France, NATO are will make Hezbollah and Hamas look pale in comparison. We are in agreement there as I have always been saying this!!!! 

I like your univerality and one measuring stick for all! Now let's talk about your flawed understandings........!

Ayhab

A little math for you:

A decade ago = 10 or so ago = which puts you smack around late 90's

Thanks for the math lesson. Did you have a point? The late 1990s is the time frame I was talking about. It seems you were talking about the early 1990s, in which case maybe you are the one in need of the math lesson?

As for your channel of choice, Americans can watch as they please but
you can continue with your favorite channels,  Military Channel and
Cartoon net work.

You know, I did used to watch the Armed Forces Network. When I was overseas. But that was back in the days when there was no such thing as international news, and everrything had to be broadcast locally. You know... the stone age. Two decades ago.

finally repeating what I said does not make your statement a rebuttal. 

You think I "repeated" everything you said? lol. One of us needs some English language lessons rather tahn Math lessons, it seems!

Craig

A little math for you:

A decade ago = 10 or so ago = which puts you smack around late 90's

As for your channel of choice, Americans can watch as they please but you can continue with your favorite channels,  Military Channel and Cartoon net work.

finally repeating what I said does not make your statement a rebuttal. 

Have fun ;-)

-YT 

Ayhab

A relatively unbiased news outfit decade ago...

Really?

//www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=145...

You forgot about Peter Arnett getting busted doing fake documentaries about Vietnam for CNN already? You forgot about all the other CNN scandals of the late 1990s? You forgot about Ted Turner?

...has resorted to sensationalism and propaganda just to keep audience.

Actually, that's what cost them their audience. That's what led to FOX showing up to offer an alternative news source. And it's what led FOX to become the dominant US cable news channel almost immediately upon beginning to broadcast. CNN has spent the last 10 years trying to regain the trust of the American people, and hasn't been very successful at that. Hence their focus on an international audience in recent years. I find it a bit odd that you would accuse them of a presumably right wing bias. They haven't even made it back to the middle yet, let alone the right.

So now that you've determnined that noth FOX and CNN are right wing propaganda outlets, what do you think Americans should watch Ayhab? MSNBC? :o

PS-Ayhab, I know you are no leftist... nor are you a liberal in any sense of the word... so I assume your criteria for a news outlet to be considered unbiased is that it has to bash the US a lot, right? Or bash the west and western values in general?

So we should watch FARS news right? They have that in English!
Can you tell them to start broadcasting on DirectTV for me, bro? I know
you have connections! I'd go with the BBC but they only bash the US. They leave the rest of the western world alone.

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Khar: Man chaker har chie Khare fahmide mesle jenabali

No offence was meant

Mehrdad

"Garbage in, Garbage out"

9 out of 10 also thought Iraq had WMDs because that's what the media keeps telling them, that's all.

CNN

A relatively unbiased news outfit decade ago, has resorted to sensationalism and propaganda just to keep audience.

What else can you expect from a news organization where in AM news cast they spend more time joshing around and flirting with one another or having anchor Lou Dubbs who keeps on having special after special about Birther movement, than broadcasting news that touch our lives? Not to mention Wolf Blitzes, the known AIPAC and Zionist propagandist.

-YT 

Most people get what they are fed

Now who doesn't get that?

Most people also believe in imaginary gods and religious dogma

doesnt mean they are right. people tend to "believe" without any evidence. as stephen colbert would say, truthiness!

Dan Huck

That's a lot of blah blah blah. I gave you serious answers, and you responded with pablum for the masses.

In future if you are just asking rghetorical questions so that you can editorialize, then answer the questions yourself immediately after you ask them, like most people do. Don't pretend you actually want to hear other opinions. That's effing annoying, and it wastes everyone's time.

And you haven't answered MY question: Are you the same guy who repeatedly accused the US of violating the Chicago Conventions, even after being corrected several times?

Shah Ghollam

Hezbollah and HAMAS both have a long history of delberately targetting and victimizing innocent people for ideological reasons. If that doesn't qualify as terrorism for you, then it is you who has the flawed understanding of the term.

Shine a Light on Contempt and Hatred,They Will Slink Away

Some say the IRI might give a nuclear weapon to a terrorist group so we should pre-emptively flatten them. Some of the same people who conned us into doing that with Iraq are trying to get us to do it again, this time to Iran. Killing begets killing, and those whose tax dollars facilitate it are complicit in the mayhem.

If we decided to go to war with Muslims because we feel threatened by MA's 'talk', and because we don't believe his unambiguous statement Iran does not want, and will not produce, nuclear weapons, and because we have reason to believe they have been involved in 'hidden' activities similar to those every major Western nation has sponsored at one time or another, then one can only imagine the respect and admiration for the self-control and humanity of those Muslim nations who are potentially in our cross-hairs, who are managing not to be infected with the 'contempt and hatred virus' which is doing it's best to permeate our souls which must exist in the minds of people of  other nations who, sitting on the sidelines, are watching our behavior.

While we allow ourselves to be bamboozled regarding unrealistic and impractical 'what if' scenarios about Iran, 'facts on the ground' continue to be staked out by the Israelis. There are those who defend the Idea Israel is at war with Muslims and it's no one's business but their own. Every day there is an article in an Israeli or American newspaper conjecturing the 'when' of an Israeli strike on Iran. They are telling us they will strike; it's not a question of if, it's a question of when. With Israel, it's not a question of a rhetorical flourish, it's so serious the Americans, the Iraqis, the Saudis and the Turks have all stated they would not allow Israel to attack Iran through air space they control. Are they saying that because they like to hear themselves talk, or because they are quite aware of the hair trigger and bellicosity of the Israelis from previous experience?

Ex programmer craig

I think they might. They certainly have no qualms about sending missiles Hezbollah. In fact, they have sent tens of thousands of missiles to Hezbollah. And they've armed HAMAS as best they can too, and been caught red handed doing it a couple times.

You seem not know that the term "Terrorist" applied by Washington with a healthy dosage of help from Neucons and Zionist senators are nothing more than a stamp to legalize massive civilian killings to war criminal proportions. How can one forget the Israeli onslaught on Paletinian and Lebanese againt all UN conventions of war just recently under the excuse of "fighting terrorists"? I hope you do not have a self inflicted amnesia god forbid!

Also, another reason that you should not blindly use such terms indiscriminately is that it is only a few countries in the World that accept US branding of different people and entities as "terrorists" and as such it does not have a universal acceptance by a long shot! So, refrain from calling "people" terrorists simply because Uncle Sam says so. Broaden your "definitions" to Internationally reconized and accepted terms.

Dan Huck

How about you? Do you think the IRI will move ahead with a closet
nuclear weapon program, produce a bomb

I don't know about Farhad, but I do.

and give it to a terrorist
organization?

I think they might. They certainly have no qualms about sending missiles Hezbollah. In fact, they have sent tens of thousands of missiles to Hezbollah. And they've armed HAMAS as best they can too, and been caught red handed doing it a couple times. Nor do they have a problem with arming terrorists in Iraq. Is there some reason people should think IRI won't provide nuclear weapons to terrorists? What would stop them? Common sense? Fear? Has any sort of deterrent worked with the IRI in the past? 

How about you? Do you not think there is truth and
substance in the IRI's complaints about Israel's behavior with the
Palestinians in Gaza, in the West Bank, the whole Apartheid situation?

Why is it any of their business? And if they choose to get themselves involved in a war that doesn't concern them, why is that anyone's fault but theirs?It's not too late, you know. If they cut Hezbollah and HAMAS loose, and if they toned down the rhetoric against Israel, that would go a long way towards demonstrating good faith. Why don't you work on that, Dan? You seem sympathetic towards the IRI... you want what's best for them, right? And surely you don't think it is in their best interests to be engaged in a proxy war against Israel. If enough people like you said "Hold on, Mahmoud! What about Iran!?" I'm sure he would get the message.

Do you think MA is threatening Israel, or is he stating If they
continue with their repressive, cruel policies, they will vanish from
the scene in the long run, as did Imperial Rome, for example?

It's a shooting war, with Iran one of the particpants. It's far too late to try to claim "MA" is just playing rhetorical games.

during the course of which we have killed 85,000 Iraqis so far

At
least you used the right number, I'll say that much on your behalf. Who
is "we" that killed them, though? Are you a terrorist? Or a member of a
death squad? Just take a look at the news articles about attacks in
Iraq the last few months... who is killing people? The US?

After all, our nuclear and military
capabilities are so much more advanced, and on such a huge scale
compared to the IRI's, it's hard to think we wouldn't respond to an
attack massively.

Of course we would. Would that make the millions who died as a result of an Iranian loose nuke less dead?

Is there something in the Mullah's makeup that I haven't seen, that they "would cut off their nose, to spite their face?"

You believe the Islamic Republic behaves rationally? If so, it's no form of rationality that I understand. Maybe you somehow are able to fare better.

BTW, are you the guy who likes to go on and on about how US unilateral sanctions on Iran violate the Chicago Conventions?

Hala Bavafa ba Khar ham Bee-Vafaie?

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Most people get it, a few on Iranian.com LIKE ME don't!

I don't get it, Farhad. The only people who supposedly feel especially threatened by Iran are the Israelis. But they insist on having a war of words, and threaten to cut off relations, and claim others are thinking conspiratorially about them, with everyone who disagrees with them. Now they are ready to start calling the Turks closet anti-Semites because the Turks support the Goldstone Report.

How about you? Do you think the IRI will move ahead with a closet nuclear weapon program, produce a bomb, and give it to a terrorist organization? How about you? Do you not think there is truth and substance in the IRI's complaints about Israel's behavior with the Palestinians in Gaza, in the West Bank, the whole Apartheid situation? Do you think MA is threatening Israel, or is he stating If they continue with their repressive, cruel policies, they will vanish from the scene in the long run, as did Imperial Rome, for example?

Help me to understand how, if Iran did make a nuclear device, that in itself would be so devastating a development that it would warrant the US and Israel coming down on it the way we came down on the people of Iraq, during the course of which we have killed 85,000 Iraqis so far, as well as our own dead soldiers?

After all, our nuclear and military capabilities are so much more advanced, and on such a huge scale compared to the IRI's, it's hard to think we wouldn't respond to an attack massively.

Is there something in the Mullah's makeup that I haven't seen, that they "would cut off their nose, to spite their face?"

Ham reesh o ham gheychi...

On the one hand CNN has been consistently spreading rumors, gossips and innuendos about the non-existing Iranian nukes, and on the other hand CNN polls the same victims of its own propaganda. Then publishes the results of its own propaganda as what the "people think"! 

Khod gooyie va khod khandi, forgot the second part...ah...che ghadr mard-e honarmandi!

Someone even wrote a book about manufacturing consensus. CNN and its polls are simply not credible - actually the entire as corporate media is not credible, period.

Khar to America zyad hast, too goosh nakon

Mehrdad