Baird wants US to reassess aid to Israel
Jerusalem Post
25-Feb-2009 (13 comments)

He also said he was troubled by the American origin of so much of the IDF weaponry used in Gaza, and suggested that the US should reconsider the military aid it provides and the weapons it sells to Israel."We need to use every pressure available to make these needed changes happen," he said.Baird said the Congressional briefing could come as early as next week, with administration briefings being more tentative. He has also talked to Ellison about penning op-eds and otherwise raising awareness of the issue.


Congress finally getting spine on Israel?

by Q on

Yea, he better be "troubled". Money from budgets he approved went to kill children for Israel.



anonymous fish

by Joe the clapper (not verified) on

We got no choice sistaa. Whether we want it or not Israel is going to suck us dry. Ally? sure, you give any other bagger this much: I believe an study from Harvard University (which is illegal to be published in any popular media, check for yourself) indicated somewhere around the 115 billion in just a few years. Real ally. Wonder what happend if we stop the payments to fat citezens of theirs. On the other hand, why not? let the money be spent on those people, who am I to give a damn. I won't get it anyways. Just don't talk as if we have a choice in giving or not giving. I don't want an ally in middle east if it's costing us this much plus all the wars we got to fight for them and get our soldiers killed for them. What do they do for us again?

anonymous fish

just as with any

by anonymous fish on

just as with any expenditure, reassessment is necessary.  i doubt anyone would disagree with that.  all reports indicating favorable conditions to loans made to israel also stress that the value of assistance to israel has been eroded by inflation. real value has steadily declined.  monies to israel is not just for military aid.  funds support infrastructure and economy as well.  funds also support increased immigration to israel.  said immigration and financial support for it will eventually increase isreals self-reliance.

washington has BEEN reviewing cutbacks since late last year.  //

i read the reports from al-awda as well.  this is where that famous "spin" that Q is so fond of discussing comes in.

i've said it and i'll say it again.  i'm in favor of decreasing funds to israel.  but not for the same reasons as many others.  i simply don't think she needs that much money!  but make no mistake about this.  supporting israel as a major US ally is not going to change.  israel is virtually the only ME ally that the US has.  it IS going to come at a cost.



as always...

by Anonymous8 (not verified) on

zions say anything they have to to keep the free cash flowing.


How much did you say?

by capt_ayhab on


There are at least three ways in which aid to Israel is different from that of any other country.

First, since 1982, U.S. aid to Israel has been transferred in one lump sum at the beginning of each fiscal year, which immediately begins to collect interest in U.S. banks. Aid that goes to other countries is disbursed throughout the year in quarterly installments.

Second, Israel is not required to account for specific purchases. Most countries receive aid for very specific purposes and must account for how it is spent. Israel is allowed to place US aid into its general fund, effectively eliminating any distinctions between types of aid. Therefore, U.S. tax-payers are helping to fund an illegal occupation, the expansion of colonial-settlement projects, and gross human rights violations against the Palestinian civilian population.

A third difference is the sheer amount of aid the U.S. gives to Israel, unparalleled in the history of U.S. foreign policy. Israel usually receives roughly one third of the entire foreign aid budget, despite the fact that Israel comprises less than .001 of the world's population and already has one of the world's higher per capita incomes. In other words, Israel, a country of approximately 6 million people, is currently receiving more U.S. aid than all of Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean combined when you take out Egypt and Colombia.

In addition to nearly $3 billion in direct aid, Israel usually gets another $3 billion or so in indirect aid: military support from the defense budget, forgiven loans, and special grants. While some of the indirect aid is difficult to measure precisely, it is safe to say that Israel's total aid (direct and indirect) amounts to at least five billion dollars annually.


Congressional Research Service report submitted to members and committees of US Congress, Jan 08, 2008:


Loan Guarantees for Economic Recovery. In 2003, Prime Minister
Ariel Sharon requested an additional $8 billion in loan guarantees to help Israel’s failing economy. The loan guarantee request accompanied a request for an additional $4 billion in military grants to help Israel prepare for possible attacks during an anticipated U.S. war with Iraq and Israeli efforts to end the Palestinian uprising. P.L. 108-11, the FY2003 Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act, included $9 billion in loan guarantees over three years for Israel’s economic recovery and $1 billion in military grants. P.L. 108-11 stated that the proceeds from the loan guarantees could be used only within Israel’s pre-June 1967 borders, that the annual loan guarantees could be reduced by an amount equal to the amount Israel spends on settlements in the occupied territories, that Israel would pay all fees and subsidies, and that the President would consider Israel’s economic reforms when determining terms and conditions for the loan guarantees. On November 26, 2003, the Department of State announced that the $3 billion loan guarantees for FY2003 were reduced by $289.5 million because Israel continued to build settlements in the occupied territories and continued construction of the security barrier separating the Israelis and Palestinians. No other deductions have been made.




I stand corrected re Byrd

by Rahmatollah Soorerrie (not verified) on

1. Rahmatollah and Savy are not the same "idiot". If you like to see "idiot" go look at Khamenei and everyone else who supports him. Also, everyone who supports the Islamists or acts as an oppologist is an "idiot". Get it?

2) The fact the one country is 6 million and another 70 does not change anything. The use of this fact is actually a stupid diversion. The aid package was part of the peace deal formulated by Carter who agreed to give the Israelis the military advantage for returning the Sinai. If you ask me, US should stop funding Israel but US should not stop funding Egypt or Jordan or the Palestinian Authority. You think US is that dumb to want more Islamist in power? US does not want more Islamist to come to power but I am sure your type loves it. More nut job type of thinking as usual. I agree, F*** the American Weapon Companies but also lets F*** the lslamist as well.

3. Saudis give money to help the poor Palestinians and the IRI give weapons to to use it as leverage in the region for its nuclear ambitions. The Saudis and most Arab nations don't like the fact that the Iranians give weapons to Hamas. IRI should mind its business and worry about its own regional problems mainly Iraq, Caspian oil and Afghanistan. IRI has only created more enemies, not only Israel but the majority of Arab states, by its irrational policy of funding Hamas & Hezbolah and acting as the authority on Holocaust, Zionism and the seeker of justice for Palestinians by offering Jews to go to "Alaska" or "Germany". If you think this is smart politics you need serious help.



by IRANdokht on

Q please don't tell me you didn't recognize "Math savvy" who posts insulting comments anonymously while keeping his real ID's reputation as a non-zionist.

He's all over this website spreading joy 



To clueless hizbullahi idiots: no I am not Rahmatollah

by math savvy (not verified) on

"Most of HAMAS money comes from Saudis and isn't even 0.1% of Israel's money, but would there be a need for any of it from Iran or anybody else if Israel wasn't being armed to the teeth for free? "

hahahaha ... then tell us genius, why the f..k are Khaled Mash'al and his sidekick, Ismael Haniyah constantly going back and forth to Iran, giving reports of their so called war victories to your crippled leader & Co.?

First and foremost, brainwashed insane ideologues should ask this question from themselves "Would there be any need for Israel to "be armed to the teeth" if it weren't for the kinds of rabid governments like that of Iran's constanlty threatenning the security and safety of its citizens and the very existence of the sovereign state of Israel?!


Cluless idiots!

by Q on

Dear Zionist apologists,

1. Rahmatollah and "math savy" are the same idiot.

2. If you want to do cheap character assassinations to change the subject, at least be smart enough to understand who the hell you are talking about: Rep. Brian Baird of Washington is not Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia.

4. Israel, a country of 6 Million people receives over 3Billion by itself, while Egypt, a country of 70 Million receives $2 Billion. Israeli money is absolutely vital part of the economy, while Egyptian money only keeps the dictatorship in power.

5. Cut it all off!, do you think anybody wants Egyptian and Jordanian puppet states? F*** American Weapon Companies, those companies can be retooled to build something useful.

6. Most of HAMAS money comes from Saudis and isn't even 0.1% of Israel's money, but would there be a need for any of it from Iran or anybody else if Israel wasn't being armed to the teeth for free?



by Rahmatollah Soorerrie (not verified) on

How all the Islamist apologists are suddenly in agreement with a former KKK member. And yes Math Savvy, Egypt gets 2 Billion and Jordan gets a 600mil, the Pals get a few hundred and the US gets lots more in return. Islamist apologist will act dumb and forget that 80% of this money has to be spent, by law, on purchasing American weapons from American companies. Basically, this money is funding American weapon manufacturers and creating American jobs. Its a Stimulus package but Islamist apologist don't like it if jews are involved in part of the stimulus.

The Islamist apologist will never complain about the free money the Islamist Republic spends on arming Hamas, Hezbollah...and there is no requirement that they purchase from the Islamist Republic to stimulate the Iraniani economy- Its just a free hand me down to Islamic Fundamentalist groups for no other reason than to promote the Islamist takeover of the middle east....


Egypt receives 2 billion dollars a year from the U.S.

by math savvy (not verified) on

Unbeknownst to some, Egypt receives 2 billion dollars a year out of US taxpayers' money as well.

This is on top of millions of Dollars and Euros given each years by the U.S. and Europe to Palestinian authorities.



by IRANdokht on

I was hoping this matter comes up again.
A lot of the Americans I know have no idea that US sends $Billions to Israel every year, and when they find out, their first question is "why"?! really: why should this "technologically advanced liberal independent Utopian state" that we hear so many of its patriots praise it every day for its might get US tax payer money at such high rate?
I know a lot of countries receive financial help from US, but how many of them slaughter their neighbors on a regular basis?

There are also folks who can't do math well and think 900 millions for reconstruction is more than 2-3 billions every year...  Not to mention that such reconstructions are usually performed by US contractors who get paid at a much higher rate and the money comes right back to US.



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