America's tough decision on Iran's dissidents
Christian Science Monitor
17-Sep-2008 (12 comments)

Refugee status in the US might seem an obvious solution to the problem. But in another bizarre twist, the Iranian Mujahideen members, who are considered "protected persons" under the Geneva Convention by US forces in their "Camp Ashraf" north of Baghdad, are actually listed as a terrorist organization by the US State Department. They allegedly supported the takeover of the US Embassy in Tehran in 1979. British courts and the European Court of Justice have ordered that the PMOI be removed from their respective lists of proscribed organizations. Standard diplomatic procedure requires the White House to assert that, in the basket of pressure tactics on Iran, military action is always an option. Both presidential candidates have echoed that line. The reality is that both the State Department and the Pentagon know that an airstrike against Iran's nuclear facilities would be a political catastrophe and could not guarantee eliminating some of the facilities buried deep underground

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3,800 MKO members in Camp Ashraf

by News Goffer on

The only place that really wants them is Tehran.  Should they be turned over to Iran, to Iraqi officials (effectively the same as turning them over to Tehran), or bring them to US?  The US will have to decide whether MKO is a terrorist organization or not before it can deal with the 3,800 MKO members left in Camp Ashraf.


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I truly feel sorry for them

by Mensa (not verified) on

What people do when they are desperate, when they have been pushed to the edge, when they have lost everything and have nothing to look forward to.

Let me start out by saying that I am not an MKO supporter, actually I feel their leaders the Rajavis have been their downfall. But I truly feel sorry for their members, call them what you may. These individuals are people who have lost sons, daughters, parents, husbands and wives to this cruel hideous regime. This is their unifying goal...to one day overthrow this regime...a very noble goal, which was carried out very poorly. They actually remind me of the liberal democrats...good intentions, but wrong methods.

But please, please, please save me the BS by saying that they are worse than the current regime. Nothing in the past since Ghengis Khan nor anything ever in the future will ever, ever, ever be worse than the current regime.


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Dear Izzy,

by Shamse Vazir (not verified) on

I hear rumors but don't believe them. In fact I don't believe in prophecies at all. Prophecies are self fulfilling if enough people believe in them. The thought of ww3 is very unappealing to me. If that happens I might lose my internet access to iranian.com :-) Plus war is a real pain and I do not wish it at all.

The best way to avert it is to not believe in all this apocalypse stuff. Therefore I don't want to encourage it. I want a long period of peace and prosperity!

Shams!


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Fake Choice

by Shamse Vazir (not verified) on

Dear Anonymous500

To compare Khamenei and Rajavi is like comparing a snake to a scorpion: they are both poisonous. Who cares which one is worse as they are both deadly. Why do you keep pretending that the only choice is between them? How about neither one? I liked the Shah :-)


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World War 3

by Izzy (not verified) on

Shams

Don't you hear rumors of World War 3??? MEK is more militia like in nature than Mullahs. Ezekiel 38 predicts that Russia (Rosh), Iran (Persia), Turkey (Beth Togarmah), Arabia (Didan), Cush (Sudan), and Put (Libya) will form an alliance against Israel. Most T.V. Evangelical Christians are talking about it these days. RUSSIA is becoming a czarist dictatorship. I have read articles that MEK supported Iranian Revolution and Khomeini but their ideology was hijacked by the clerics. Middle East is getting worse.


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Attanetion to Hezbollahis: How a Religious Cult Behaves?

by Anonymous500 (not verified) on

This is for those "intlligent" (!!!) IRI supporters on this and similar BBs whose mantra is, incredible as it may sound, that the PMOI is a cult worse than the hords of criminals and terrorists that comprise this vile regime in Iran. See below how a "religious cult" adresses the honorable people of Iran, a brave and decent people who despise this regime:

سازمان مجاهدین، همه دانشجویان و دانشگاهیان و فرهنگیان و دانش آموزان را به اعتراض و خیزش در مهرماه فرامیخواند
5:37:06 AM 1387/6/22
تظاهرات دانشجويان دانشگاه تهران - آرشيو

فراخوان به دانشجویان، دانشگاهیان، فرهنگیان، دانش آموزان و جوانان دلیر میهن
دانشجویان، دانشگاهیان،
فرهنگیان و دانش آموزان سراسر ایران،
جوانان دلیر میهن،
مهرماه زمان برخاستن است. بازگشایی مدارس و دانشگاهها نوید بخش بالا گرفتن اعتراض و خیزش سراسری در برابر استبداد خون آشام مذهبی است. رژیم پلیدی كه بدون اعدامهاى روزانه از جمله 29 اعدام در شكنجه گاه اوین در یك روز و بدون متمركز كردن سپاه جهل و جنایت و نیروی سیاه انتظامی بر سركوب و خفقان هر چه بیشتر، شانسی برای بقای خود در قدرت نمی بیند.
سازمان مجاهدین خلق ایران در آغاز سال تحصیلی جدید همه دانشجویان و دانشگاهیان و فرهنگیان و دانش آموزان را در سراسر میهن اشغال شده به اعتراض و خیزش فرا میخواند. مهرماه امسال را به ماه اعتراض علیه دیكتاتوری ارتجاعی ولایت فقیه تبدیل كنیم.
به رغم سركوب وحشیانه و اعدامهاى روزمره ، از ابتدای سال 1387 تا كنون، مردم ما در شهرها و مناطق مختلف كشور با بیش از 3700 حركت اعتراضی، مرعوب مانورها و اقدامات سركوبگرانه رژیم نشدند و در مقابل پایمال شدن حقوق حقه خود، فریاد اعتراض بلند كردند.
فرهنگیان و معلمان و كارگران آزاده از ابتدای سال جاری با صدها اعتصاب و حركت اعتراضی، رنج زندان و تبعید را به جان خریدند و فریاد مظلومیت خود را به گوش جهانیان رساندند.
دانشجویان پیشتاز دستگیری و شكنجه و زندان را بر ذلت سرخم كردن در برابر دیكتاتوری آخوندی مرجح شمردند و ندا دادند: می جنگیم، می میریم تا پای جان می مانیم !
نبرد آشتی ناپذیر مردم و مقاومت ایران با رژیم جهل و جنایت آخوندی پیوسته بالا و بالاتر میگردد.
رژیم درهم شكسته ولایت فقیه در مرحله ریزش وسرنگونی در محاصره بحرانهای زنجیره ای قرار گرفته است. طرحهای وحشیانه حكومت آخوندی كه هر روز تحت عناوین مختلف به اجرا گذاشته می شود، حاكی از ترس و نگرانی شدید نسبت به خشم و عصیان مردمی است كه در طلب آزادی و برقراری دموكراسی در ایران، از پا نمی نشینند.
ایران زمین در آستانه یك تغییر بنیادین قرار دارد و این تغییر بدستان فرزندان ملت ایران محقق میشود.
بپا خیزید و در مهر ماه، آزادی از قید ستم آخوندی را فریاد كنید. آزادی حق مسلم ماست!
دانشگاهها و مدارس و همه مراكز آموزشی را به كانونهای اعتراض و خیزش مقدس مردم ایران برای آزادی و دفع شرّ حكومت آخوندی تبدیل كنید. با همبستگی و اتحاد، خروش آزادیخواهی و غریو شعار میهنی مرگ بر دیكتاتور را به اوج برسانید. از حركتهای اعتراضی اقشار مختلف مردم حمایت كنید. با شهامت و سرفرازی در برابر نیروهای سركوبگر آخوندی ایستادگی كنید. هیچ فرصتی را برای بیان خشم و انزجار مردم ایران از رژیم آخوندی نباید از دست داد.
مهرماه دیگر بار زمان برخاستن است. در همه جای ایران زمین به رژیم ضدبشری میگوییم : ما زن و مرد جنگیم ، بجنگ تا بجنگیم. موكب آزادی در راه است. ایران آزاد میشود.
سلام بر خلق- سلام بر آزادی
سرنگون باد رژیم ضدبشری آخوندی
درود بر رجوی
سازمان مجاهدین خلق ایران

I guess if the PMOI is a "cult," then Khemenehi is pure "Democracy" in action. Let us see how these IRI "smarties" would react this news item. For those who prefer the likes of Khamenehi to the likes of Rajavi, there is no cure for genocidal sociopathy!!


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MKO

by Shamse Vazir (not verified) on

In all these years I never understood what is the attraction of the MKO! Why do people willingly subject themselves to this cult? I can see opposition to the Iranian government but not like this and not with MKO's horrible leaders. To go and burn oneself so Maryam Rajavi can boast about it is just sick. These people take religious fundamentalism and Marxism and combine them, they are totally brainwashed or insane. Meanwhile France and Britain are giving help to their leaders!! If EU loves these guys so much why don't they take them.


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Prophecy

by Shamse Vazir (not verified) on

What does MKO have to do with Ezekiel? I guess some people are obsessed with Israel.


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That's what you get when you

by Sadegh B (not verified) on

That's what you get when you collaborate with the enemy. When they chose to get comfy with Saddam Hossein, they should have thought about the consequence. However, those who are still in Iraq are probably the naive followers who have been misled and most abused by their leaders. These people should be set free, but those SOB's (leaders) who are living in Europe and the US comfortably should be put on trial for crimes against humanity.


IRANdokht

They dug themselves deep in a hole

by IRANdokht on

Unfortunately the ones who actually left everything behind to join the Rajavis in Iraq are completely brainwashed and would be a burden for any country that would take them in.

As you said Iran is the only country that actually wants them and has made it clear, but they're not known to be very honorable and there is no guarantee that these folks would live to see the light of the day once they do go back. Even journalists and scientists who are not openly working against the IRI regime don't always survive their brutal arrests and questioning methods...

These folks are at a dead end any way you look at it. I think their ex-leaders should be put on trial for their crimes and they should be paying back their followers every last penny they took from them so they can find themselves a viable option.

They dug themselves in by joining the cult and now they pose a serious problem that has no clear answer.

That's a good article and made me think of how US has changed its policies towards so many different political groups already... who knows maybe they do take them in afterall, maybe they clean up Gitmo and make houses for the mojahedin instead! az in dom-borideh harchi begi bar miyad!

IRANdokht


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A solution

by Hassani (not verified) on

I'm for that they get released but that their chiefs who after Saddam fall, flee Iraq like rats to be turn over Tehran or that they burn themselves as Maryam Rajavi said that it's a holly thing to do. B.st.rds


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Bible Prophecy is coming true

by Izzy (not verified) on

If U.K. made the decision then the Ezekiel 38 Bible prophecy is coming true. RUSSIA and IRAN join alliance against ISRAEL. MEK is worse than the current regime.