Story of two Mohammad's!

Story of two Mohammad's!
by Midwesty
23-May-2010
 

Often it’s been said that when a newcomer to Madinah wanted to visit prophet Mohammad (PBUH) s/he would be directed to his important meetings in his mosque next to his residence. So here it is a newcomer to a new community looking for someone who has never seen but heard a good deal about him.

S/he gets into meeting, looks at people around a circle, whom all look alike, no ranks, no signs, no tall crowns, no fancy clothing, not even a sign of visible superiority since they all were sitting in a circle.

S/he is being challenged by frustration that this new tradition has brought, looking for the man that has rocked the western and eastern empires, asks, “Which one of you is Mohammad?”

Look at this photo carefully. These are the people who rocked the Saddam’s world, which was fully equipped by the Western and Eastern Empires. Now tell me which one is the head of Khorram-Shahr brigade?

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Tell me where is Saddam now?

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خلفای راشدین

Our only solace in the memory of our shahid

by خلفای راشدین on

Alhamdo lellah,

By the grace of Allah, our brother is being rewarded the courtship of seventy-two virgin angels, and possibly some extra bonuses.

What else can I say? What else can I do?


No Fear

More Pics from Pasdar Shahid Jahanara

by No Fear on


i_support_khamenie

isn't strange

by i_support_khamenie on

Just because the US went to war in forest infested vietnam with green uniforms- to get camouflaged---the green uniform became popular

so popular that both iraqi and iranian forces were wearing green in the war zone situated in a baren desert. Now how smart was that?

Then the US invaded Iraq part I and put on khaki uniforms
and in Iraq Part II they put on beige uniforms.

Obviously, the US military is thinking things through down to the last detail like uniforms and camouflaging...

Only 2-3 months ago, I saw a few Iranian forces personnel wearing khaki uniforms...i guess they started figuring things out after watching US troops.....

So far though, none of the higher ups has been wearing khaki uniforms. They are worried that Ayat Khamenie mistakes them for being American lackeys....

That is the difference between US vs Iran. Between Western vs Middle Eastern mind.

One group draws a theory, tests it to the point of boredom and then reaches a conclusion....aka scientific method

Another group crowds around a guy with a bullhorn, listens to him and rushes into action....aka Ya Ali Madad method

And frankly even when it comes to culture, freedom and liberty...the Western world has lived through the dark ages and has reached where its at based upon trial and error....and they have found out what works best.....

They are telling folks in the Midle East and IRan, hey take this, it really works....but our societies choose to ignore all that and instead live through the dark ages and experiment with trial and error until we reach THEIR conclusion 300 years from now...

Countries like Japan and especially Korea decided to take up the Western offer and spare themselves the "dark ages" and that is why they are way way ahead of us


fooladi

midwest, What is your point?

by fooladi on

FYI, It is a common military tactic for senior militarry leaders on the front to "blend in" the rank and file in order not to be picked up by enemy snipers

So If you are trying to somehow elude to how "equal" everybody is under velayate vaghih, The swiss/London bank account details (what we know of since last year) of the leaders of this islamic republic tells us a much different story.


Midwesty

Onlyiran,

by Midwesty on

So the trubite to the vets and victims of WWI and WWII, Korean, Vietnam and Afghanistan, Iraq, wars are all worng. We should forget about all these and pretend it had never happend!


Onlyiran

Only warmongers

by Onlyiran on

glorify war and "martyrdom".  That's their gravy train...


maziar 58

ADDING SALT....

by maziar 58 on

To the injury................................

that's the whole purpose of this blog.

Tabnak,Keyhan,Ettelaat,Hamshahri......

all  the media in Iran-e viran are giving more than 35 lines about the sensless war already,we don't have to.

have they rebuilt khuzestan ? NO

have they changed the standard of local khzestanis ? NO 

My 5/5 mo. niece got killed (Zahre Tarak) in the first or second night of Khorram shahr Air raids with lbs 500 Iraqi bombs,my youngest brother was crushed  the following year in that senless war.........

NO MORE hero or shahid need to come out of that beautiful land.

the only ones allowed to GET OUT  will be MULLAHS and their supporters.

now let me go back and watch pages 10 & 11 of JJ's photo Album.  Maziar


Midwesty

Read this carefully!

by Midwesty on

This is what the enemy has written, I haven't:

Against Iran's armed forces, including the Pasdaran (Revolutionary Guard) troops, led by religious mullahs with little or no military experience, the Iraqis could muster twelve complete mechanized divisions, equipped with the latest Soviet materiel.

With the Iraqi military buildup in the late 1970s, Saddam Hussein had assembled an army of 190,000 men, augmented by 2,200 tanks and 450 aircraft.

Simultaneously, six Iraqi army divisions entered Iran on three fronts in an initially successful surprise attack, where they drove as far as eight kilometers inland and occupied 1,000 square kilometers of Iranian territory.
As a diversionary move on the northern front, an Iraqi mechanized mountain infantry division overwhelmed the border garrison at Qasr-e Shirin, a border town in Bakhtaran (formerly known as Kermanshahan) Province, and occupied territory thirty kilometers eastward to the base of the Zagros Mountains. This area was strategically significant because the main Baghdad-Tehran highway traversed it.

On the central front, Iraqi forces captured Mehran, on the western plain of the Zagros Mountains in Ilam Province, and pushed eastward to the mountain base. Mehran occupied an important position on the major north-south road, close to the border on the Iranian side.

The main thrust of the attack was in the south, where five armored and mechanized divisions invaded Khuzestan on two axes, one crossing over the Shatt al Arab near Basra, which led to the siege and eventual occupation of Khorramshahr, and the second heading for Susangerd, which had Ahvaz, the major military base in Khuzestan, as its objective. Iraqi armored units easily crossed the Shatt al Arab waterway and entered the Iranian province of Khuzestan. Dehloran and several other towns were targeted and were rapidly occupied to prevent reinforcement from Bakhtaran and from Tehran. By mid-October, a full division advanced through Khuzestan headed for Khorramshahr and Abadan and the strategic oil fields nearby. Other divisions headed toward Ahvaz, the provincial capital and site of an air base.

Source: Global Security: (No Date) //www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/i...


Midwesty

Anahid,

by Midwesty on

Good question dear!

It's the anniversary of liberating our beloved Khoramshahr and this man was there, despite all the odds, to prevent its fall for 35 bloody days and nights.

That's it. He put up 35 days in hell on earth for us, don't you think he deserves 35 lines of cold words?


Q

zemzem jan,

by Q on

Just be glad I am objective about it, as opposed to calling it a typo like some losers I know!

In any case, I'm glad you are receiving this well and seem to have reciprocated by admitting that you have no proof about the Saddam accusation that you made.

Your differences of course that you "see" are irrelevant. In every war, all these casualties are considered heros. The circumstances of "front" line or "back line" are not distinguished. I do not know what you gain by making this rather sad point. You know there are hundreds Islamists who died in the front line, some may even have had more colorful pasts than this brother. So what? Do you want to go through the graves in Behesht Zahra and put a check mark next to the ones you don't think "died" for the right cause?

if I am not mistaken, you from all the people who condemn repeatedly armed struggle against national governments of the land is the one with double standard, aint it.

I condemn "armed" action against innocent civlians, that "ain't" no double standard. But these are two seperate issues.

There were may Monarchists and leftists who died in the Iran/Iraq war too. That doesn't make them less of a hero. Just remember that.


onlyinamrica

Samsam, I am disapointed

by onlyinamrica on

How could you respond or even recognize this character that shamelessly picked Genghis Khan as his avatar? This F sadistic blood thirsty who F the Path of Kiaan and Darafsh Kaviaan so bad that we are still, up to this moment paying for it. How can you count on anything this moron is saying? I hate to say that, but you betrayed the Path Of Kiaan.


Genghis Khan

Cheers Samsam

by Genghis Khan on

Another member said it right. There is a difference between "we" and "them".

They don't deserve a narrowing gap.

Thanks.

If my body dies, let my body die, but do not let my country die.


SamSamIIII

GK

by SamSamIIII on

 

I dont believe in dialogue neither yet i make odd exceptions here & there just for the heck of it. For lack of the better word, I might call it, fun with truth or exposing the sand castles of status quo ;).

Cheers!!!

 

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia


i_support_khamenie

Midwesty, get over it

by i_support_khamenie on

Henry Kissinger said they neither wanted Saddam nor Khomeini to win.............and if you were an American strategist a lose-lose situation is what you would have wanted and not a win situation.

As far as the Mohammad in Madinah, Baba don't keep bringing him up....we all know he was a pedophile, that is why we went for ALi....keep it down a bit......

In our Shia theology we say that Mohammad was Maasoom and everything that came out of his mouth was Vahy....so I guess during the time that he was married to AIsha, he must all atleast told her, I love you once....so is that also considered Vahye.....but at the same time we say that AIsha might possibly be Hell bound........it doesn't add up? Why? Because the whole Islamic story about Mohammad doesn't add up.....leave that Arab pedophile alone, and their traditions and focus on our Shia Persian reconstructed Hossein and Ali..


Genghis Khan

Well said Shushtari

by Genghis Khan on

I can't honestly understand, why a truly patriotic son of Iran such as Samsam is wasting his time arguing with this hezbollahi bunch, whose mandate is obviously anti-Iranian.

What is the point of these lengthy posts, when we know that under no circumstances these characters will be willing to trade their butter, and bread for a piece of clear conscience.

Can't we see the whole circus of the Iranian regime on this site in its entirety? Apparently not. I think we should step back a bit in order to realize that some of us are unintentionally validating the presence of these digital, no name hezbollahi characters. They don't deserve our acknowledgment. Period.

Ladies, and gentlemen; please before getting involved in debating with these people, ask yourself if you would ever start a conversation with these hezbollahis in person, in the real world?

If doubtful about the answer, then remember their stench of sweat, and rose water.

If my body dies, let my body die, but do not let my country die.


mahmoudg

dont forget for one second

by mahmoudg on

that it was the foresight of the late shah who bought all the armamnets, which was mocked by the same loosers like these guys which ultimatley saved the day for the iranians.  Only when they spent and in many cases wasted all the armamnets did the iranians resort to sending young children into the mine fields.  Now if that is what we learned form Mohammad and his Arab hord, then so be it, we deserved what we got in the last 30 years.


Anahid Hojjati

Midwesty, how does your blog help Iran's situation today?

by Anahid Hojjati on

Midwesty, I don't get point of your blog.  Let's say this guy was a hero.  So how does this help us with the miserable situation that we have in Iran? As you see, there is even disagreement about whether this guy was a hero.

Being originally from south, I am actually biased to say that it is great that he defended the country but then look what his leaders did to Iran.  It is not that as if Khorramshahr was freed from Iraq and then it became really khorram.  Our coutry is in horrible situation now.  Even if this guy were a hero, I have to say, so what?


shushtari

these guys

by shushtari on

never would have died if the akhoonds had not taken over iran with carter's help

the arabs could NOT EVEN LOOK AT IRAN the wrong way, let alone attack it!

we had one of the greatest armies in the world with hundreds aces in the air force and the rest of the military

 

khomeini and the rest of his crew helped weaken iran by murdering thousands of innocent officers like jahanbani, rahimi, and shahriar shafiq.....

 

and once the war was on, as planned, rafsanjani and khomeini made sure it continued, despite all the ceasefire offers....to make sure the weapons kept getting sold....despite all the wonderful young brave iranians being torn apart in the front!   but then again, that's what khomeini really was and is- a gutless dips**t with no country and no heart

 

face it khoramshahr, abadan, and dozens of other wonderful cities would NOT have been destroyed had the mullahs not ruined iran and it's great army

period. 


Midwesty

everbody loves...

by Midwesty on

You don't want my answer bro!


Midwesty

samsam

by Midwesty on

Your act of diluting a heroe here in your posts, is a poster child for an Iranian proverb, tofe sar balaa! (An upward spit) that it lands nowhere but on the spitters own face. Whatever you say about these brave men can fully apply to any heroes, yours or mine. So let's not go there and be respectful of other's beliefe.


SamSamIIII

:)No more PinoQ but pinoQueen

by SamSamIIII on

 

As in drama queen. Yet now that you have chosen to be objective about it;

"Yes, I can read the biography. I stand corrected,"

Then I will tell you that yes I see a difference between  average basiji kids like Hossein Fahmideh who gave their lives innocently for their country be it thru twisted ommatie prop vs conscious ideologue operator/theoricians like him. To me those basijis are to be respected nevertheless as deservingly martyrs. Ravaneshan shad baad.

& if I am not mistaken, you from all the people who condemn repeatedly armed struggle against national governments of the land is the one with double standard, aint it. So armed struggle & terrorism against Pahlavi is legit but the same against Mullah is I bet treason.. I told you take a cold drink,,it does you a lotta good.

As for Saddam , I,m reaching my own conclusion based on his many trips to Basra & associating with militant shia crowd in Najaf which at the time was heavily infiltrated by Saddam al mokhaberat in which in 2 cases of hojat al islam khansari & taghadosi turned them as subversive elements to destabilize Iran. Mansouroon group of his was supported by Palestinain Fathe which in turn was heavily supported by Saddam. Other than that I have no other proof.

 

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia


Q

Samsam, he was still a hero, just as valid as any other

by Q on

Yes, I can read the biography. I stand corrected, you have shown me who he was fighting against. I see the 30 people he supposed to have "injured" are those chomaghdars that were killing, maimin and torturing people in SAVAK's dungeons. I see what you meant by that phrase now.

You give me a biography about how he was part of an "armed resistance" and had to go underground.

Where is the evidence he accepted money from Saddam Hussein?

Do you know, or are you fantasizing?

So, why do you get upset when I say you have no clue?

Shahid is a shahid. Every life in the defense of the country counts. (Unless of course, you are the sort of person who do not value all defenders' lives).


Everybody Loves Somebody Sometime

According to the biography, Mammad = Terrorist!

by Everybody Loves Somebody ... on

Is he NOT?


SamSamIIII

Still fuming?

by SamSamIIII on

 

First, you have no clue wheather this person "killed, maimed or tortured

 

 

در سال 1355 به دلیل ضرورتی كه در تداوم جهاد مسلحانه احساس می‌كرد به گروه منصورون پیوست. از همین دوران بود كه به دلیل ضرورتهای كار مسلحانه مكتبی، ناچار به زندگی كاملاً مخفی روی آورد.

سال 1356 مامور جابجایی مقادیری سلاح از تهران به اهواز شد. در حالی كه گروه توسط عوامل نفوذی ساواك شناسایی شده و گلوگاههای جاده تهران – قم توسط مامورین كمیته مشترك ضدخرابكاری كنترل می‌شد، وی ماهرانه خودرو حامل سلاحها را از تور ساواك عبور داد و به اهواز رساند با همین سلاحها محمد و دوستانش دست به اجرای تعدادی عملیات مسلحانه

در بهار و تابستان سال 1357 محمد تصمیم می‌گیرد تا به منظور گذراندن آموزش و كسب تجارب نظامی بیشتر همراه با عده‌ای از دوستان خود به سوریه و اردوگاههای مقاومت فلسطین برود

در پاییز سال 1357 ...سید محمد و دوستانش تصمیم به ..... در یك درگیری سنگین با نیروهای زرهی رژیم، حدود 30 نفر از مزدوران و چماقداران شاهنشاهی را مجروح می‌كنند و سالم به مخفی‌گاه خویش باز می‌گردند

شهید جهان‌آرا خود مسئولیت شاخه نظامی كانون را عهده‌دار گردید.. جنگ چریكی و شهری داشت، شهر را به چندین منطقه تقسیم كرد و مسئولیت حفاظت از هر منطقه را به عهده تیمهای مشخص نظامی گذارد كه شاخه نظامی كانون به عنوان واحد اجرایی دادگاه انقلاب عمل می‌كرد. كانون توانست به یاری دادگاه انقلاب، عده‌ای از عمال حكومت نظامی و برخی از سرمایه‌داران بزرگ را، كه عوامل مزدور بیگانه توسط آنان كمك مالی می‌شدند، دستگیر و به مجازات اعدام برساند

enough or you want more?.btw I did neither insult him or used the average cursing lexicons of an emotional you to describe him but just facts.k

 

"memory of the people who died defending their country."

btw he died in a pre-set crash in which conspirators and power elite wanted to get rid of Gen Namjoo & Fakouri and some high ranking trouble makers in which this poor soul Jahan ara was in the wrong place at the wrong time as colateral in a C130plane crash in Tehran and not in the front line. So shahid? I beg to differ. Khoda biamorzadesh


Q

Samsam, don't divert from your declaration

by Q on

no amount of diversion will make your point acceptable.

First, you have no clue wheather this person "killed, maimed or tortured" anybody. You are just making crazy accusations. What you claim is proof, of course is only a joke. This must be why you are backtracking from your claim that this man was paid off by Saddam.

It is you who are too emotional and are trying to vent against "ommatism" by playing word games with the memory of the people who died defending their country.

Second, your cousins could be equally accused of being part of Shah's brutal apparatus and therefore "guilty" in the eyes of some, according to your own criteria. If you have a double standard, you would not recognize this, of course.

It's serious BS your claims of who the man "really" died for. He is someobody's cousin too. Have some dignity and stop this baseless nonsense character assassination of a war hero.


Everybody Loves Somebody Sometime

Midwesty, so what

by Everybody Loves Somebody ... on

year from West Point Mammad graduated?
Or the Naval Academy? Or the Air Force Academy?


Midwesty

Everybody loves ...

by Midwesty on

"a brigade is composed of up to five battalions, somewhere around 5,000 troops!It takes an average West Point graduate 15 years to become a colonel! To become a flag officer, you need to be the cream of the crop...!"

Exactly!


SamSamIIII

Q

by SamSamIIII on

 

Too emotional..cool off..take a cold drink & if you are done with your sermon look at the facts I presented. This low-level self-proclaimed soldier of ommah who from age 15 (before revolution) killled maimed & tortured in the name of ommatism along with the rest of his accomplice ideologues destroyed  Islam & Iran in the process of promoting their version of political Islam & Pan-ommatism. Lets put "Iran" aside for a second & choose your favorite topic Islam. The reason you see the disillusioned army of the youth cursing & throwing profanities at the sacred icons of the private religion of over a billion & a half believers such as prophet Muhammad(pbuh) & Imam Ali is because of ideologue militant ommaties like him. So the shame is indeed on him & his ilk who killed the spiritualism & private Islam in 2 generations of Iranians just so his mentors & ommatie socio class could come on top and taste the fruites of power. He neither died for Islam nor Iran but for his own power hungry class of Ommaties. He could be somebodies hero but not mine.

 

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia


Shazde Asdola Mirza

Honest people did not die for:

by Shazde Asdola Mirza on

1. The Khamenei family to become multi-millionars

2. People be thrown in jail for their beliefs, to be tortured and killed

3. Khomeini's grave to turn into a $2 billion circus

4. Iran be humiliated and hated by the rest of the world.

//iranian.com/main/blog/khar-61