Musings of a former chicken

Nuke Nationalism????

Only Fredollah and twisted devoted followers could come up with crapollah terminology like this one. :-))

Fredster, have your masters give up the nuke first then worry about people who do not have it yet.

-YT 

yes Craig, I am all for nuke nationalism

Craig says: "Who do you hang out with that you can spout this kind of bullshit and nobody calls you on it?"

Craig, your last comment made me laugh a lot, specially the last statement/question (pasted above)!  Have a good weekend.

BTW Craig, nukes are poor man's choice, I didn't invent that term, but it is very applicable to Iran versus the Israel/U.S.

Nationalism has always been about Iran's sovereignty.

This means keeping our borders and defending Iran against any enemy at all cost. A person who believe in this idea, can proudly call himself a nationalist. The rest of you are nothing. You may call yourselves, collaberators, traitors, seperatists, westernized mickey mouse, but not Iranian, specially when you call yourself " fred".

Did someone mentioned we as a nation should suck up ( becoming friends ) to other countries for our protection? I can't believe i am reading this crap. Did you give your lunch away to the bully at school for his attention and protection?

I am indifferent about whether Iran should have the nukes or not. But it should have the ability to make one on short notice.

Our country needs more people like kharmagas , who understands nationalism is about the country first, and not about the government. We don't need Fred or Willy or Dick to tell us whats required to be Iranian.

kharmargas

I did not assume that Fred had me in mind! And yes my opinion about Israel/U.S is not a function of IRI gone or not gone! Israel/U.S will only change their large scale criminal behavior towards other nations when/if those nations have enough deterrence in place...

You make no sense. Nuke deterrent has never been a buffer against foreign interference. Look at Pakistan and India for the proof of that. Or look at the US and the USSR! Admit it, you don't care about deterrence you care about empowering further IRI aggression.

The correct way to prevent other countries from meddling in your internal affairs is to have good relations with them. Even the most mild and peacable of neighbors will cause problems for you if you cause problems for them. Don't take my word for it... try dumping your trash over the wall into your neighbor's yard for a while and see what happens.

...or when Israel/U.S become weak enough.

You mean like Russia? Yeah, the Russians have REALLY stopped with the whole "bad actor" thing since the USSR collapsed, hevan't they?

Who do you hang out with that you can spout this kind of bullshit and nobody calls you on it?

yes Craig, I am all for nuke nationalism

I did not assume that Fred had me in mind! And yes my opinion about Israel/U.S is not a function of IRI gone or not gone! Israel/U.S will only change their large scale criminal behavior towards other nations when/if those nations have enough deterrence in place or when Israel/U.S become weak enough.

BTW, despite its big blunders, IRI so far has not allowed likes of you turn Iran into another playground for Balckwater ..... as far as I am concerned that is great, and I wish it continued success. 

OmidKarimi

Would a "democratic" Russia today be worse of if a tyranical Soviet had not developed a nuclear infrastructure?

Probably. The Cold War would never have happened. Things would have been settled (conventionally) one way or another during the 1950s.

kharmagas

I seriously doubt Fred had you in mind when he made this post. No offense intended, but I think he was trying to reach people who are reasonable and who aren't fanatically loyal to the IRI. People like you are a lost cause. You won't change your opinions until the IRI is gone, and even then you won't change your REAL opinions. You'll only change the way you talk. Just like all the Iraqi baathists in Iraq who act like they never heard of the baath party but have political positions that are indistinguishable from the baath party.

Nationalism is not about a piece of real estate

but the commitment to the true concept/legacy/heritage behind that sacred name Eran--->Iran

سام سام ,نپرستد , يه مشت خاک ز بن شور

گر جوهر ان خاک ز فرهنگ اييران بشود دور

اکنون بپزم بهر تو يک چامه ز ويران

انچه عرب امه به نيرنگ کند نامه ايران

ايران نه ز خاکست و نه باد است و درختان و چمنزار

نامش نه ز ابگوشت بيايد , نه خورش نار

فرٌش نه بيايد ز مغول يا ز يه سوسمار

ان ريشه نباشد ز بر اجعل و جاءل و جعلنار

ان نام نيايد ز بر شيخ خراباتی و مولا

يا از پسر و تخم و تره ,جنگ جلولا

پس گوهر نامش تو بجويد بره ان يار

ان کورش انشان, که ارامگهش دشمن ايری بکند زار

ان نام بيايد ز فرهنگ دليران

ان توده وارسته و افسر به جهان ,مردم ايران

ان نام چو يا ديست ز ماد و پرس ,سگزي و اشکان

چون خوی به نيکي , ز پندار و اموزش زرتشت به نياکان

ان نام بيامد چو ز هنگام خجسته

از مردم اراسته پيراسته و فرهنگ گسسته

ان گوهر نامش بيايد به برت بهر زبانش

ان گويش پارسي , نه تازي و لسانش

سام سام به کنون کرده تو هشيار به گفته

تا معنی ايران تو بداني, ز ويرانه آن , امٌت خفته

I may not agree with some of blogger's airtight or waterproof approach  yet his cause do constitute & stem from patriotic principles

yes Fred, I am all for nuke nationalism

Fred says: "the same regime which for thirty years has been raping, torturing and murdering Iranian men, women and children on a vast scale"

Yes Fred, I am for nuke nationalism, because I have realized that Israel/U.S have been committing the same crimes that you mention on a much larger scale and against the nations. Israel/U.S are capable of doing the same to Iran and the most/only effective weapons to stop them are nuclear weapons.

Bla bla

Bla bla,

Chicken Fred keeps blabbing.  How about a regime which has been killing, stealing, murdering children and women for over 70 years and has over 400 nuclear bombs?

Dear Fred

Obviously, like the rest of us, you have very strong feelings over the fascist republic, BUT..

lets put our feelings of the IRI aside for a minute and ask one simple objective question: Does Iran have a stretgic benefit of having a nuclear enrichment program?

And regarding the IRI: Do you believe that the enrichment program will increase the survival of the IRI considering the Soviet system fell with posession of over 40 thousand nuclear missiles?

Would a "democratic" Russia today be worse of if a tyranical Soviet had not developed a nuclear infrastructure?

Leading questions, I know, but this is what pulls people to support this program. Not that they support the IRI, but they can see the reasoning behind having such a program to begin with.

I believe even previous Shah era generals have supported this program out of regional tactical issues. 

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