Math Riddle

Math Riddle
by capt_ayhab
27-Feb-2009
 

One late night three traveling businessmen arrive at a hotel in a small town and ask for a room for each. Innkeeper tells them since there is a convention going on in the town, there is only one vacant room available.

Men who were tired from a long flight, asked if they could share the room. Innkeeper accepts and tells them the price will be $30.00. Men chip in $10 each and go to the room to rest.

After they leave, the innkeeper realizes that he has over charged the men, since the usual rate of room for one night is only $25. He gives $5 to bellhop and asks him to take to the men as refund.

On his way to the room, knowing that he can not divide $5 between three men, keeps $2 and refunds$1 each to the guests. Travelers were happy since their share of one night in hotel was $9. each.

Quiz: Men originally paid $10 each, After the refund they each have paid $9[$10 - $1 =$9]. Calculation is as follows:

They paid ..... 3 x $9 = $27

Bellhop kept ............ $2

Total ................... $29

Initial pay.............. $30

Missing $ ................. $1  Where did $1 disappear??

 

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by maghshoosh (not verified) on

Jaleho's answer is the correct one. ID, the dice roll is similar to the coin toss only in that the probability of getting any of the numbers between 1 & 6 in each roll is always 1/6, but that doesn't mean that the average amount you expect to earn after each role is the average of these 6 numbers, namely $3.5, b/c after the 1st or 2nd rolls you always have the option of more rolls & possible high numbers. You could be a gambler, but a very conservative one.


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Deal or no deal solution

by Jaleho on

Here is what I think the solution is.

 

First time, stop if you roll 5 or 6. Otherwise, roll for the second time. If the second roll is at least 4 stop, if it is 3 or less, roll for the third time.

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 Thanks Maghshoosh!

getting late for my movie, captain jon, don't shout your answer loud until I'm back too. Manam bazi!


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captain

by IRANdokht on

Assuming the three are all men, I will ask one question from all three of them:

"If I asked you if you were a man, would you say no?"

the truth teller will say "no"

the one left will be the random guy because the liar's head will explode  :0)

IRANdokht

PS: the random guy may say no too, but at least we'd get rid of the liar!


IRANdokht

roll the dice maghshoosh

by IRANdokht on

this is like the shir-ya-khat game. It doesn't matter how many times you play, chances of you getting shir or khat is always 50% regardless of your previous rounds.

so to enter the dice game the only safe bet is to bet a dollar, no matter what you roll, in the worst scenario, you'd break even.

if you want to go on and play, I suggest you take your chances again if you roll a 1, 2 or 3. Chances of rolling something higher is always better than 50%

If you roll 4 or better, keep your money:

I guess you can tell that am not a gambler. 

IRANdokht


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One for the road

by capt_ayhab on

The Liar, The Truth Teller and The Random Answerer

 

There is a truth teller (always tells the truth), a liar (always lies), and one that sometimes answers truthfully and sometimes lies. Each man knows who is who.

You may ask three yes or no question to determine who
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What are your questions and to whom will you ask them?

 

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Captain, I just saw it!

by Mehrnaz (not verified) on

Oh, Great, I have been enjoying myself not doing my work, and so it pays:)


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Deal or No Deal; job or no job

by maghshoosh (not verified) on

This blog is rolling off the front page and Majid has gone underground planning sabotage for undermining his hijacking. But if you like to test your gambling intuition, you can try this probability puzzle which was posed during a phone interview to my friend seeking a job. It's a very-mini version of the Deal-Or-No-Deal game show. The required math is very basic: as you recall, a simple average of a bunch of numbers is their sum divided by the number of these numbers. You can use a calculator for the arithmetic. The point is to correctly identify the probabilities of various outcomes and then take averages.

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Questions: For what numbers on the 1st roll would you want to roll again? Same question for the 2nd roll. And how much are you willing to pay to enter this game?

Round up the answers to the nearest cent, i.e. 2nd decimal point. And remember that an interviewer is breathing on the phone while waiting for your answer.


capt_ayhab

Mehrnaz

by capt_ayhab on

Did you see my comment about your answer being one of the two that was correct? 

cheers ;-)

-YT


capt_ayhab

Anony8

by capt_ayhab on

They initially paid $10 each which is $30 total. Subsequantly they got $1 refund from the bellhop, that make it $9 each.

Am I any help?

-YT


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Anonymous 8

by mehrnaz (not verified) on

The bill for the men came to $25, they had over-paid £5, so if $2 is kept back and $3 is given to them as $1 each, it means that they will have paid $9 each which makes an overall payment of $27, so their bill, as far as they are concerned is now $27 which is the original $25 plus $2 which has been taken by the billboy. Therefore $27 plus the $3 they have got given back makes $30.

The clue is to think in terms of their original bill rather than $30.


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no, I can't! that's why i'm asking!

by Anonymous8 (not verified) on

i thought you already gave the answer. but how does the $9 per person make sense?

many comments are just restating the problem that you have, saying $30 = $25 + $3 + $2. some of the people who have answers say that the men didn't REALLY pay $9. yes it works out if they paid $9 and 1/3 dollars each.

But how?


capt_ayhab

Anony8

by capt_ayhab on

If you read at the problem, you will see tha calculation is showing there is $1 still missing. Can you tell me where is it?

 

-YT


capt_ayhab

baby Lion

by capt_ayhab on

10 - 1 = 9

are u disputing this?

-YT


capt_ayhab

Irandokht

by capt_ayhab on

lol you got it 

-YT


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Ayhab, it is still confusing to me

by Anonymous8 (not verified) on

as one of the men, I paid $10.
then someone gave me $1. So I paid $9.

Why is this not so?


puss

capt, this is your answer!

by puss on

According to my father  "LION"

 that $1 is NOT lost... it is in $25..

becuase the businessmen all together had to pay $25.. and $25 / 3 is greater than $8, not $9 ..

they have not paid $9 each.

 

 

 


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On the Rope, Captain

by Mehrnaz (not verified) on

Well, I would not do this personally but would get someone more athletic!

I would ask her to
- get the end of one rope, perhaps tie it around her or something to have free hands to climb the other rope;
- reaching the top to stretch and tie the rope she has brought up tightly at the top, she would lose 20 feet;
- cut the remainder 30 feet
-climb down with it!!!
- reaching the ground cut the 10 feet dangling from the rope
-plus her height plus as far as she can reach with arms stretched up!!

So, 30+10+the length of the brave person with her arms stretched right up!!

Is this right?!


IRANdokht

LOL

by IRANdokht on

He probably weighs the meat

:0)

IRANdokht


capt_ayhab

answers

by capt_ayhab on

20$ profit on the horse problem.

and Lady Tarzan, your second answer is correct ;-)

-YT


capt_ayhab

Yet another one

by capt_ayhab on

a man's height is six feet, he’s an assistant at a butcher’s shop, and wears size 9 shoes.

What does he weigh?

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Horse problem, Captain

by Mehrnaz (not verified) on

on the second transaction when he sells the horse for $60, he makes $10
on the forth transaction when he sells the horse for $80, he makes $10

Soooo he makes $20


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Mister Captain,

by Jaleho on

on the horse, I gained $20 since this is what happened to my pocket:

-50+60-70+80=+20

The rope is foggy as we don't know how athletic we are supposed to be, lady Tarzan or no jump at all?


LalehGillani

How Much Rope? (Take 2)

by LalehGillani on

Okay, if I can’t be lady Tarzan, I'll have to use my brain power. (There isn't much of it left. I was on call all last night!)

Here is what I’ll do:

1. Tie the ropes to each other.
2. Climb up the first rope.
3. Tie a knot to the first rope close to the ceiling and then cut the first rope below the knot.
4. In order to stay alive and prevent the mistakes of the first solution, I’ll feed the first rope through the knot and fasten it to my waist.
5. Now all I must do is to climb the second rope using my lady Tarzan swinging techniques.
6. Cut the second rope close to the ceiling.
7. Finally, I will come down using the first rope which has been fed through the knot.

I have stolen the whole thing.


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zero feet

by Reza Khaneh Mir Five (not verified) on

because I took a look at the ropes and they are both coiled up near the ceiling and regardless of the fact that you have a knife and the ropes are "hanging", the ropes are wrapped near the ceiling 20 feet high in the air. You can cut zero amount, or go and get a ladder :)


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Jaleh0 Jan

by capt_ayhab on

on horse peoblem: 

Q: did he make money, lose money, or break even?

on Rope, I don't get your question. Why do you think it is foggy?

-YT


capt_ayhab

Laleh

by capt_ayhab on

On horse problem, you missed out again sorry ha LOL

 

-YT


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Laleh

by capt_ayhab on

Unless you are Lady Tarzan you are not going to be able to swing 20 feet distance.

try again

 

-YT


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Re: Horse Problem

by LalehGillani on

He made $80 because he sold his horse for $80. The first three transactions cancel each other out.


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How Much Rope?

by LalehGillani on

I can steal it all! Here is what I have to do:

1. Climb to the top of the first rope.
2. Swing to the second rope and get a hang of it.
3. Cut the second rope from the ceiling.
4. Now cut down the first rope from the ceiling.
5.By the time I fall down to the ground, if I am still conscious and capable of walking, I’ll grab both rope and escape. If not, your riddle has just killed me!


Jaleho

captain, is the rope puzzle

by Jaleho on

meant to be foggy, or can you explain what it exactly wants a bit more without giving it away?

And, am I missing something about the horse one being just a profit?